Author Topic: NY METS 2015 NLCS CHAMPIONS (Read 11457 times)

OlympiaGym · « **on:** September 27, 2015, 11:40:25 AM »

"We're going to keep rolling."
- Matt Harvey

CalvinH · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2015, 04:49:13 AM »

Painful as it is for me to say-congrats.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2015, 07:16:41 AM »

Harvey / Syndergaard / DeGromm / Matz........

If they get bats and keep Harvey they could be insane in the future.

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2015, 11:35:33 AM »

Dodgers now trail the New York Mets by two games for home-field advantage in the NLDS, which is effectively three games, because the Mets own the tiebreaker after taking the season series four games to three.

With only six games left to play for both teams, the Mets’ magic number to clinch home field is down to four.

funk51 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2015, 01:07:10 PM »

would really enjoy another subway series, this spoken as a phillies fan...if not that houston vs mets the two 1962 expansion teams going at it.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #5 on:** September 29, 2015, 01:40:02 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on September 29, 2015, 01:07:10 PM

would really enjoy another subway series, this spoken as a phillies fan...if not that houston vs mets the two 1962 expansion teams going at it.

I would too, for the fact it means the Yankees got there.

The Mets staff is insane though.

tom joad · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2015, 01:42:28 PM »

if the Blue Jays make it to the World Series, my dream opponent would be the lovable Cubbies ...

with every (non-Canadian) baseball/sports fan in the world (plus MLB & Fox) rooting for the Cubs ...

it'd also be sweet beating Joe Maddon (who I don't buy all the hype about)

my second choice would be the Mets ...
New York clearly won the Dickey deal for Syndergaard & d'Arnaud, but Dickey could make the trade more palatable for Jays fans by pitching well against the NYM in the Fall Classic.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2015, 01:51:49 PM »

Quote from: tom joad on September 29, 2015, 01:42:28 PM

if the Blue Jays make it to the World Series, my dream opponent would be the lovable Cubbies ...

Price vs Arrieta? Very cool.

Cubbies are another team that could be great next year. I think they go after Price / Greinke or both aggressively.

tom joad · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2015, 02:04:05 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on September 29, 2015, 01:51:49 PM

Price vs Arrieta? Very cool.

Cubbies are another team that could be great next year. I think they go after Price / Greinke or both aggressively.

Price is likely NL bound (dude likes to swing the bat), with (yeah) the Cubs probably being at the top of the list.

Don't see Price signing with any AL team other than giving some consideration to Toronto if the Jays step up in terms of years (which they've always been reluctant to do.)

Price can be a 25 game winner in Toronto if he wants to come back next season.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #9 on:** September 29, 2015, 06:49:18 PM »

Quote from: tom joad on September 29, 2015, 02:04:05 PM

Price can be a 25 game winner in Toronto if he wants to come back next season.

Lol, nobody does that anymore.

Mets - looks like Matz is hurt again.

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2015, 07:05:20 PM »

If Matz is hurt for real that will make life more difficult for Mets. Colon or Niese will have to step up.

tom joad · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2015, 07:14:29 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on September 29, 2015, 06:49:18 PM

Lol, nobody does that anymore.

one of my most memorable ballgames that I attended as a wee kid occurred in late September 1978 when the sad sack Blue Jays defeated Ron Guidry in the first game of a twi-night doubleheader, with Louisiana Lightning going 25-3 that year.

yeah, 25 wins would be quite the challenge today ... but ... if it could be done ...
then being the ace for a full season of the offensive juggernaut Jays might be his best shot at it.
(all of the Jays key position players are under contract for at least two more years.)

funk51 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2015, 07:59:24 AM »

1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...

andreisdaman · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:03:26 AM »

Quote from: tom joad on September 29, 2015, 07:14:29 PM

one of my most memorable ballgames that I attended as a wee kid occurred in late September 1978 when the sad sack Blue Jays defeated Ron Guidry in the first game of a twi-night doubleheader, with Louisiana Lightning going 25-3 that year.

yeah, 25 wins would be quite the challenge today ... but ... if it could be done ...
then being the ace for a full season of the offensive juggernaut Jays might be his best shot at it.
(all of the Jays key position players are under contract for at least two more years.)

I was at that famous game at Yankee stadium where Ron Guidry struck out 19 batters but lost the game on two homeruns by Doug DeCinces..

andreisdaman · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:05:11 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on September 30, 2015, 07:59:24 AM

1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...

I remember that famous showdown he had with Reggie Jackson where Reggie kept fouling the ball off but Welch eventually struck him out to end a World Series game...

Reggie returned the favor a few days later by hitting a hiomer off of him

Grape Ape · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:07:13 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on September 30, 2015, 07:59:24 AM

1990 bob welch was 27-6 he only pitched 35 games and completed only 2....239 innings pitched...amazing...

What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.

I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:42:06 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on September 30, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.

I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.

Agreed...Dodgers had some great offensive players then....Steve Garvey, Ron Cey, Dusty Baker, Davey Lopes, Jim (the Toy Cannon) Wynn

Bill Russell at short and Steve Yaeger at catcher were no slouches either.....

Pitching....Don Sutton, Tommy John, Bob Welch, Andy Messersmith

Marshall as closer (he of the famous screwball)

tom joad · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:45:27 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on September 30, 2015, 08:07:13 AM

What's more amazing was how he won 27 games with such "meh" k rates and other peripherals. 127k in 238 IP. K/BB ratio of 1.65.

I'm not looking, but I'd wager he had some amazing run support and luck over the course of that season. Shows why wins are not the best measure of performance.

Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2

andreisdaman · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:46:45 AM »

As for the Mets, I've watched more Mets games this year than i did in the last ten years combined.....the Mets have made baseball exciting for me again...it the only reason I still have cable

andreisdaman · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2015, 08:47:53 AM »

Quote from: tom joad on September 30, 2015, 08:45:27 AM

Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2

No way was clemens better than Tom Seaver when Seaver was in his prime

Grape Ape · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2015, 09:11:42 AM »

Quote from: tom joad on September 30, 2015, 08:45:27 AM

Clemens deserved to win the Cy Young over Welch in 1990.
Other than Wins, Rocket beat him by every measurement.
Clemens put up 8 WAR, while Welch was good for just 1.2

Just looked at them side by side for that year.

You're absolutely right. Clemens wasted him. And Clemens even had the show stats - 21 wins. Writers were/are stupid.

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #21 on:** October 09, 2015, 10:18:48 PM »

Mets need 10 more wins now.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2015, 10:32:45 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on September 30, 2015, 09:11:42 AM

Just looked at them side by side for that year.

You're absolutely right. Clemens wasted him. And Clemens even had the show stats - 21 wins. Writers were/are stupid.

yes but they were in different leagues weren't they???

Grape Ape · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2015, 04:12:18 PM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on October 10, 2015, 10:32:45 AM

yes but they were in different leagues weren't they???

No, Welch was on the A's that year.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2015, 06:14:49 PM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on September 30, 2015, 08:46:45 AM

As for the Mets, I've watched more Mets games this year than i did in the last ten years combined.....the Mets have made baseball exciting for me again...it the only reason I still have cable

Even though I root for the pinstripes, I watch a ton of mets too. Mostly because I love the game but also because it's fun to turn on wfan and listen to mets fans lose it. Easily the most self deprecating fan base in ny.

Also, I think I see frank luntz 2 seats next to larry king. Nice seats.