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Title: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 09:35:25 AM
would this work well back & Legs together? just feel exhausted after Legs but it just seems logical to train back too. would it be too much? need a good 4 Day split.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 09:37:06 AM
Please only answers from real Bodybuilders not fat drunks.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
You can train your whole body in one workout so you sure can train legs and back together.
The logic of training legs and back together is that your lower back is then given maximum time to recover until your next session.
If you train legs and back on different days your lower back gets less rest.

Do legs first, then back.

Your lower back gets a lot of work when you squat so do deadlifts last in your workout.

So do your squats first, deadlifts last.

Example all in one day:

Squats
Leg extensions
Leg curls
Pulldowns or pullups
Rows
Deadlifts

Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: prowlermaniac on June 18, 2021, 09:41:57 AM
Terrible split

Try something like

Chest/biceps/delts
Legs (quad focused)
Rest
Back/triceps
Legs (ham focused)
Rest
Rest
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 10:01:25 AM
Terrible split

Try something like

Chest/biceps/delts
Legs (quad focused)
Rest
Back/triceps
Legs (ham focused)
Rest
Rest

Don´t really like shoulders & Biceps.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 18, 2021, 10:03:45 AM
Troll thread alert
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Fortress on June 18, 2021, 10:05:24 AM
Everything works if you situate the various elements into a proper “schematic”.

As another says, don’t complicate things.

Over time specifics that best serve you will become apparent.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 10:08:16 AM
Troll thread alert
Why can you "Coach" me bro?
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 18, 2021, 10:11:05 AM
would this work well back & Legs together? just feel exhausted after Legs but it just seems logical to train back too. would it be too much? need a good 4 Day split.
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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 18, 2021, 10:11:53 AM
Don´t really like shoulders & Biceps.
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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
Everything works if you situate the various elements into a proper “schematic”.

As another says, don’t complicate things.

Over time specifics that best serve you will become apparent.
Maybe i think too much  :-\ Just my back feels pumped when i do stiff legged deads.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
If you are working both in one workout do back first and then legs.  This way you won't be doing rows on wobbly legs.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2021, 10:13:11 AM
This guy trains back and legs together...

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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 18, 2021, 10:14:17 AM
If you are working both in one workout do back first and then legs.  This way you won't be doing rows on wobbly legs.
But my lower back is worked hard with squats and Stiff deads. seems better to do legs first. Rows can be supported.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2021, 10:22:42 AM
But my lower back is worked hard with squats and Stiff deads. seems better to do legs first. Rows can be supported.
Do what you want.  I've always worked out legs after everything else.  I did the 20 rep squat program and squats are listed first, then pullovers, rows, benches and curls.  I always reversed it and did upper body first, then rested 5 to 10 minutes before doing the murderous squats.

The old bodybuilding courses from the 30's, 40's and 50's had trainers start at the top of the body and move down to calves being last.  They started with curls or shoulder presses.  I always started with chest and back before shoulders and arms and legs last.  Wearing out the shoulders and arms before chest and back makes no sense.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: King Shizzo on June 18, 2021, 10:35:31 AM
Please only answers from real Bodybuilders not fat drunks.
Thank you.
Way to eliminate almost everyone on Getbig.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Fortress on June 18, 2021, 10:54:00 AM
Do what you want.  I've always worked out legs after everything else.  I did the 20 rep squat program and squats are listed first, then pullovers, rows, benches and curls.  I always reversed it and did upper body first, then rested 5 to 10 minutes before doing the murderous squats.

The old bodybuilding courses from the 30's, 40's and 50's had trainers start at the top of the body and move down to calves being last.  They started with curls or shoulder presses.  I always started with chest and back before shoulders and arms and legs last.  Wearing out the shoulders and arms before chest and back makes no sense.

Most often I start with squats and then move on to bench. Then accessories. On another day, I start with deads, then an alternate pressing exercise, and then, again, accessories.

I began as a (power) bodybuilder and then transitioned to strict powerlifting.

Now I simply weight train with a huge emphasis of strength, capacity and performance.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Henda on June 18, 2021, 10:58:37 AM
Personally Would never train them both together, lower back worked with stiff leg dead’s on leg day (as well as indirect work from squat), rest of back split in two workouts and train half with chest and half with delts and traps
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: prowlermaniac on June 18, 2021, 01:20:53 PM
Don´t really like shoulders & Biceps.

Okay so switch it around you fucking nerd.  Asks for advice then proceeds to ignore everyone’s advice.  What a fucking bum
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Straw Man on June 18, 2021, 02:15:33 PM
Do what you want.  I've always worked out legs after everything else.  I did the 20 rep squat program and squats are listed first, then pullovers, rows, benches and curls.  I always reversed it and did upper body first, then rested 5 to 10 minutes before doing the murderous squats.

The old bodybuilding courses from the 30's, 40's and 50's had trainers start at the top of the body and move down to calves being last.  They started with curls or shoulder presses.  I always started with chest and back before shoulders and arms and legs last.  Wearing out the shoulders and arms before chest and back makes no sense.

Steve Reeves always did legs last too.  His premise was that legs took so much effort that you really don't want to do anything after you work legs.

I've dabbled with full body a few times but I always get sick of it after a few weeks
I used to do chest/back supersets, then delts/traps, then legs and finished with arms (to give my arms a bit of rest after chest/back/delts).    I like the idea of getting it all done in one day and I like the combination of high frequency hitting each muscle along with lots of rest but you really can't do more than 3-4 sets per bodypart and even with that you're in the gym 2+ hours per workout which got to be a drag really quickly
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Straw Man on June 18, 2021, 02:23:21 PM
There might be some benefit to training legs and arms on the same day

https://www.t-nation.com/training/tip-train-legs-then-train-this-body-part/

https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/testosterone-advantage-training/
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: BossBoss on June 18, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
Chest/triceps
Back/biceps
Legs/delts
Rest
Chest/triceps
Back/biceps
Legs/delts
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 18, 2021, 05:00:00 PM
PLEASE DON`T FEED THE TROLL !!
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 19, 2021, 12:06:31 PM
Steve Reeves always did legs last too.  His premise was that legs took so much effort that you really don't want to do anything after you work legs.

I've dabbled with full body a few times but I always get sick of it after a few weeks
I used to do chest/back supersets, then delts/traps, then legs and finished with arms (to give my arms a bit of rest after chest/back/delts).    I like the idea of getting it all done in one day and I like the combination of high frequency hitting each muscle along with lots of rest but you really can't do more than 3-4 sets per bodypart and even with that you're in the gym 2+ hours per workout which got to be a drag really quickly
I'll do a full body workout once in a while but only 1 exercise per bodypart and always legs last.  When I used to do HIT workouts I'd sandwich a full body workout in between splits.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 20, 2021, 04:36:44 AM
There might be some benefit to training legs and arms on the same day

https://www.t-nation.com/training/tip-train-legs-then-train-this-body-part/

https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/testosterone-advantage-training/

Yeah thanks i did do this for a while upper/lower but doing arms & legs. was OK. I don´t really do anymore than 2 or 3 exercises per bodypart but i will do more sets. so fewer exercises but more sets. I mean why do 4/5 exercises when maybe half of them do not really give you much Gainzzzzz  for your labour.
It´s all about GAINZZZZZ   Bro !
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 20, 2021, 04:34:35 PM
Even Bhank needs a gimmick.  ::)
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 22, 2021, 04:32:35 AM
OP made a typo when he signed up:

homobodybuilding   ::)
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: bhank on June 22, 2021, 08:08:47 AM
Legs and back are you two biggest muscle groups requiring the most work doing them together is way too much
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2021, 08:15:32 AM
Legs and back are you two biggest muscle groups requiring the most work doing them together is way too much

No, they are very suited to training together.

Stop believing all the muscle mag/bro training nonsense.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 22, 2021, 09:19:08 AM
No, they are very suited to training together.

Stop believing all the muscle mag/bro training nonsense.


This. The systemic fatigue after working any muscle spreads throughout the body as soon as the muscles are exhausted. So it doesn't fucking matter what groups you exercise on a given day- other than doing the same muscle over and over.


And it's not like they aren't connected via the fascia that encapsulates the entire body. Ever injure a leg and the next thing you know your neck or back hurts? It's because your body compensates for weakness by changing the tension in the fascia.  This is a great reason for exercising the entire body as a unit.


Broscience is Brofantasy.


https://www.healthandfitnessvitality.com/importance-fascia-athletes/
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 22, 2021, 10:26:16 AM
Yeah thanks i did do this for a while upper/lower but doing arms & legs. was OK. I don´t really do anymore than 2 or 3 exercises per bodypart but i will do more sets. so fewer exercises but more sets. I mean why do 4/5 exercises when maybe half of them do not really give you much Gainzzzzz  for your labour.
It´s all about GAINZZZZZ   Bro !
.

Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 22, 2021, 10:26:56 AM
would this work well back & Legs together? just feel exhausted after Legs but it just seems logical to train back too. would it be too much? need a good 4 Day split.
.

Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: bhank on June 22, 2021, 10:32:48 AM
No, they are very suited to training together.

Stop believing all the muscle mag/bro training nonsense.

It has nothign to do with muscle mags. My back and leg workouts have the most exercises and the most sets and are the most tiring. I am exhausted after doing one of those workouts. I would not be able to complete both. I would have to seriously reduce each workout and why? There are 7 days in a week back and legs both deserve a full day of energy not half.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 24, 2021, 11:28:03 AM
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This is really immature  ::) I do not even believe you are a woman. Just a sad Tranny gimmick :-\
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 24, 2021, 01:02:12 PM
This is really immature  ::) I do not even believe you are a woman. Just a sad Tranny gimmick :-\


JPJ is a woman and she is hot. So just stop.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: BossBoss on June 24, 2021, 01:03:39 PM

JPJ is a woman and she is hot. So just stop.

mimimimi
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: BossBoss on June 24, 2021, 01:39:19 PM
You can train back & legs together no problem.

The reason why you don't train them usally together is because it is to much volume.
You train 1 big and 1 small muscle group together.

Why? Because 2 big muscle groups in the same workout is simply to much..

For a big muscle group i use at least 20 Sets a 10-20reps.
For a small muscle group is use 10 Sets a 10-20reps.
= 400reps+200reps=600reps

More is to much for your central nervous-system..if you push you're body to far you gain nothing..= overtraining

So it is better to split it. Split it as much as you can..
 
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 24, 2021, 02:05:46 PM

JPJ is a woman and she is hot. So just stop.
well i want a picture or video of her squatting
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 24, 2021, 07:20:41 PM

This. The systemic fatigue after working any muscle spreads throughout the body as soon as the muscles are exhausted. So it doesn't fucking matter what groups you exercise on a given day- other than doing the same muscle over and over.


And it's not like they aren't connected via the fascia that encapsulates the entire body. Ever injure a leg and the next thing you know your neck or back hurts? It's because your body compensates for weakness by changing the tension in the fascia.  This is a great reason for exercising the entire body as a unit.


Broscience is Brofantasy.


https://www.healthandfitnessvitality.com/importance-fascia-athletes/

I always train legs by themselves.

I just run out of steam after doing squats/lunges. Low energy.

Any program can work if you commit to it.

Every time i train full body it seems the last half of the workout is half assed. I'm not the most intense guy in the gym but i believe in volume so maybe if i cut it back a little it would work better?

In high school we trained full body, but we didn't do any assistance exercises like curls or tri extensions, just compound movements.

So there is a lot of truth to full body being productive.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: AbrahamG on June 24, 2021, 07:23:36 PM
Way to eliminate almost everyone on Getbig.

He was speaking directly to you.  You fat, sloppy, death faking, cock sucker.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: King Shizzo on June 24, 2021, 07:32:20 PM
He was speaking directly to you.  You fat, sloppy, death faking, cock sucker.
Meltdown.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: AbrahamG on June 24, 2021, 07:33:46 PM
Meltdown.

Whatever works.  'fagg0t'
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 24, 2021, 07:34:03 PM
He was speaking directly to you.  You fat, sloppy, death faking, cock sucker.

No need to bring Shizzo…

Never mind.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: King Shizzo on June 24, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
No need to bring Shizzo…

Never mind.
:D
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 24, 2021, 08:06:20 PM
well i want a picture or video of her squatting


You'll have to ask her.  I kinda can guess the reply at this point though, haha.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 24, 2021, 08:08:26 PM
I always train legs by themselves.

I just run out of steam after doing squats/lunges. Low energy.

Any program can work if you commit to it.

Every time i train full body it seems the last half of the workout is half assed. I'm not the most intense guy in the gym but i believe in volume so maybe if i cut it back a little it would work better?

In high school we trained full body, but we didn't do any assistance exercises like curls or tri extensions, just compound movements.

So there is a lot of truth to full body being productive.


Yes, I can see splitting the body up into top vs bottom halves if you do a lot of exercises. That makes for a simple split.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 24, 2021, 08:51:49 PM
What i found through trial and error things that worked for me based on a 6 day routine can be altered siomewhat to fit your schedule"

Mon. Quads,Ham,Calves....very demanding and after resting on the weekend it seems to me to be the most logical time to train them.


Tue. Chest & Abs..

Wed. Back,..............notice how I keep all the blood concentrated near the prior bodpart done the day before....ie. torso................sam e with arms.

If you must deadlift cycle poundages between them and squats or your lower back will soon regret it.

Thur.: Shoulders, train them fast ,moderate weight,impeccable form,doing tri-sets keep up the intensity and be relentless to take short rest periods....keep up intensity and make them burn.

Did all kind of heavy pressses,,,,,,,,,,,gained some size but ruined shoulders and the varuious form of lateral raises are better functioned for the job of the deltoids meaning their function.

Fri.  Always did arms in superset fashion for intensity and to keep blood gorged in one concentrated area...........do appendages on the same days.....legs on leg day,arms on arm day..

Sat. Ab Neck forearm etc etc........detail work and any other weak points plus more cardio..


Sun. REST

Always do cardio and mix routine up......I have a veritable ton of routine that would make most men quit or cry and this has happened to me in the past............. no joke.

If you noticed I start with the biggest most demanding bodyparts early in the week and work my way down to the smaller less demanding one a the week progress but always give 100 %

Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 24, 2021, 08:57:37 PM
This is really immature  ::) I do not even believe you are a woman. Just a sad Tranny gimmick :-\
You are very immature to.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 24, 2021, 08:59:19 PM
well i want a picture or video of her squatting
Could you please post a pic of you squatting?

I thought so.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 09:35:35 AM
Could you please post a pic of you squatting?

I thought so.
shut up you old Queer  :-X
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 09:38:34 AM
You can train back & legs together no problem.

The reason why you don't train them usally together is because it is to much volume.
You train 1 big and 1 small muscle group together.

Why? Because 2 big muscle groups in the same workout is simply to much..

For a big muscle group i use at least 20 Sets a 10-20reps.
For a small muscle group is use 10 Sets a 10-20reps.
= 400reps+200reps=600reps

More is to much for your central nervous-system..if you push you're body to far you gain nothing..= overtraining

So it is better to split it. Split it as much as you can..
I do about 12 sets for a large muscle group. I do not need more.
I grow like a weed. no need for so many exercises & sets
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 11:12:17 AM
well i want a picture or video of her squatting

Well I want a picture or video of you dying.

Idiot gimmick.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
Well I want a picture or video of you dying.

Idiot gimmick.
now...now baby doll let´s not get nasty.
you are a chick with a dick. ;D sorry i am not into Tranny boys. Maybe Wes?
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 25, 2021, 11:30:52 AM
Well I want a picture or video of you dying.

Idiot gimmick.


lol JPJ delivers yet again  ;D
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 11:57:24 AM
now...now baby doll let´s not get nasty.
you are a chick with a dick. ;D sorry i am not into Tranny boys. Maybe Wes?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/33/13/b2331390c4c02ed5538b5283d8599c90.gif)

You’re not into tranny boys - you are just into regular boys.

Gimmick.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:00:47 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/33/13/b2331390c4c02ed5538b5283d8599c90.gif)

You’re not into tranny boys - you are just into regular boys.

Gimmick.
you love getting drilled for 20 bucks
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 12:01:55 PM
you love getting drilled for 20 bucks
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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
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Wes will give you it in the ass and give you a reach around  :D
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Wes will give you it in the ass and give you a reach around  :D
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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:13:04 PM
JPJ a squat is good for your health
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 12:16:02 PM
JPJ a squat is good for your health


Are you still selling used cars?

😁

Can I call you at the dealership to chat ?
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
Are you still selling used cars?

😁

Can I call you at the dealership to chat ?
call me anytime Jane if you know my number. give me dirty talk.  :)
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
call me anytime Jane if you know my number. give me dirty talk.  :)
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Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:41:03 PM
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Call me now
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 02:28:11 PM
::) ::)

Oh you poor baby.

See if Shitzo will pay attention to you.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 25, 2021, 03:00:49 PM
Oh you poor baby.

See if Shitzo will pay attention to you.
can you please write something related to the thread? I am sure you love come swallowing and other things but i do not really want to know  :-\
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: JustPlaneJane on June 25, 2021, 09:49:08 PM
can you please write something related to the thread? I am sure you love come swallowing and other things but i do not really want to know  :-\

Your Back & Legs.

What your fruitcake boy cums on when he pulls out of your ass.

You’re welcome, gimmick.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 26, 2021, 03:13:03 AM
shut up you old Queer  :-X
You only wish I was a queer you dicklicking homo.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: homebodybuilding on June 26, 2021, 03:26:30 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 26, 2021, 02:53:38 PM
:)


Revolutionary exercises!

Never seen those before.
Title: Re: Back & Legs
Post by: wes on June 26, 2021, 04:15:46 PM
now...now baby doll let´s not get nasty.
you are a chick with a dick. ;D sorry i am not into Tranny boys. Maybe Wes?
Afraid not I`m into your mom exclusively.