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Thanks to generous contributions his ridiculous $2 million cash bail has been met.
Now on to trial.
Props to all Getbiggers who donated for his bail.
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Watch for which account comes back to getbig soon. 8)
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https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/kyle-rittenhouse/kyle-rittenhouse-cant-drink-alcohol-or-hang-out-with-bigots-under-new-bond-conditions-set-by-judge/?fbclid=IwAR0RkZEp98niuHmcWvjj5Wr1a8bXieBK2b05updIbMvKqCVgiSsbIwSd26A
I have an idea - him and Zimmerman team up for a TV show!
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https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/kyle-rittenhouse/kyle-rittenhouse-cant-drink-alcohol-or-hang-out-with-bigots-under-new-bond-conditions-set-by-judge/?fbclid=IwAR0RkZEp98niuHmcWvjj5Wr1a8bXieBK2b05updIbMvKqCVgiSsbIwSd26A
I have an idea - him and Zimmerman team up for a TV show!
;)
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???
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-kyle-rittenhouse-move-bail-violation-20210203-t6m7h4vrkvggjdwmq3nbttdy3m-story.html
Authorities searching for Kyle Rittenhouse, ask for arrest warrant
Defense attorney Mark Richards said Rittenhouse and his family received death threats and moved to a “safe house,” that they offered to share with the court if it was kept secret from the public, according to Milwaukee ABC affiliate WISN. Prosecutors declined that offer, according to Richards.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-kyle-rittenhouse-move-bail-violation-20210203-t6m7h4vrkvggjdwmq3nbttdy3m-story.html
Authorities searching for Kyle Rittenhouse, ask for arrest warrant
Defense attorney Mark Richards said Rittenhouse and his family received death threats and moved to a “safe house,” that they offered to share with the court if it was kept secret from the public, according to Milwaukee ABC affiliate WISN. Prosecutors declined that offer, according to Richards.
They now want to increase his bail by $200,000 also.
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Everything I've seen shows this kid acted in self defense.
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Of course it was self-Defence. Rittenhouse, McKloskies, HR 127, School shootings, mass shootings, etc are all attacks on our 2A rights. Especially School and mass shootings, the left absolutely looooooves when there are School shootings but also notice nothing is ever said about the mass shootings in Chicago every week in a city with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country 🤔
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https://www.wisn.com/article/protesters-call-for-judge-on-rittenhouse-case-to-be-removed/35495439#
Protesters call for judge in Kyle Rittenhouse case to be removed
"(Judge Bruce) Schroeder needs to be removed. He needs to step down as a judge because that's despicable," said Erica Ness, head of Leaders of Kenosha. "Kyle needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and we need real change."
Ness was referring to Schroder's denial of two motions filed by prosecutors last week, which asked to increase Rittnhouse's bail by $200,000 and for an arrest warrant to be issued.
Prosecutors said both motions were necessary because Rittenhouse did not register his real address with the court.
However, Rittenhouse's defense team argued that they registered a P.O. box instead of his address for his own safety and said Rittenhouse has been receiving death threats.
After denying both motions made by the prosecution, Schroeder did require Rittenhouse to register his current address with the court but said it will be kept under seal.
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Prosecutors seek to show evidence of past violence at Kyle Rittenhouse trial
They also want a judge to allow evidence that shows Rittenhouse was associated with the far-right Proud Boys, a group linked to political violence.
July 2, 2021
By The Associated Press
KENOSHA, Wis. — Prosecutors in Wisconsin want a judge to allow evidence at Kyle Rittenhouse’s trial that shows he had a previous violent encounter in Kenosha before he fatally shot two men and injured another during a police brutality protest last year.
The state’s motion filed Thursday in Kenosha County Circuit Court also seeks to show Rittenhouse was associated with the far-right Proud Boys, a group linked to political violence.
Rittenhouse, 18, is charged with killing Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, and wounding Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, on Aug. 25 during protests in Kenosha over the police shooting two days earlier of Jacob Blake, a Black man who was left paralyzed when he was shot by a white police officer.
Prosecutors want to introduce a video from July 1, 2020, which they say shows Rittenhouse striking a teenage girl in the back at Kenosha’s lakefront.
“In both the July 1, 2020 incident and the August 25, 2020 incident, the defendant, an Illinois resident, willingly and intentionally put himself in violent situations in Wisconsin that do not involve him in order to commit further acts of violence,” the motion states.
Prosecutors also said Rittenhouse’s association with the Proud Boys should be considered at the trial because it shows that he takes pride in violence.
Photos taken in January show Rittenhouse drinking inside a Mount Pleasant bar and gesturing with what appeared to be a white power symbol. The motion states that prosecutors have since learned that the people with Rittenhouse at the bar included the leader of the Wisconsin Proud Boys chapter and several of its highest-ranking members.
Prosecutors allege Rittenhouse, who is white, left his home in Antioch, Illinois, and traveled to Kenosha to answer a call for paramilitary groups to protect businesses during the protest.
Rittenhouse faces multiple charges, including two homicide counts. He has argued he fired in self-defense after protesters attacked him.
Black Lives Matter supporters have painted him as a trigger-happy white supremacist, but some conservatives see him as a symbol for gun rights and have rallied around him, generating $2 million for his bail in November.
Rittenhouse’s defense attorney did not immediately respond to a message and email seeking comment on prosecutors’ latest motion.
Rittenhouse’s trial is scheduled to start Nov. 1.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prosecutors-seek-show-evidence-past-violence-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-n1273005?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR31C2PQIM9QmiCVPsoBPN4Cg7aNzTyDZYtsNwclYB8t-YbUHoQgLWxOvrE
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Prosecutors seek to show evidence of past violence at Kyle Rittenhouse trial
They also want a judge to allow evidence that shows Rittenhouse was associated with the far-right Proud Boys, a group linked to political violence.
July 2, 2021
By The Associated Press
KENOSHA, Wis. — Prosecutors in Wisconsin want a judge to allow evidence at Kyle Rittenhouse’s trial that shows he had a previous violent encounter in Kenosha before he fatally shot two men and injured another during a police brutality protest last year.
The state’s motion filed Thursday in Kenosha County Circuit Court also seeks to show Rittenhouse was associated with the far-right Proud Boys, a group linked to political violence.
Rittenhouse, 18, is charged with killing Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, and wounding Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, on Aug. 25 during protests in Kenosha over the police shooting two days earlier of Jacob Blake, a Black man who was left paralyzed when he was shot by a white police officer.
Prosecutors want to introduce a video from July 1, 2020, which they say shows Rittenhouse striking a teenage girl in the back at Kenosha’s lakefront.
“In both the July 1, 2020 incident and the August 25, 2020 incident, the defendant, an Illinois resident, willingly and intentionally put himself in violent situations in Wisconsin that do not involve him in order to commit further acts of violence,” the motion states.
Prosecutors also said Rittenhouse’s association with the Proud Boys should be considered at the trial because it shows that he takes pride in violence.
Photos taken in January show Rittenhouse drinking inside a Mount Pleasant bar and gesturing with what appeared to be a white power symbol. The motion states that prosecutors have since learned that the people with Rittenhouse at the bar included the leader of the Wisconsin Proud Boys chapter and several of its highest-ranking members.
Prosecutors allege Rittenhouse, who is white, left his home in Antioch, Illinois, and traveled to Kenosha to answer a call for paramilitary groups to protect businesses during the protest.
Rittenhouse faces multiple charges, including two homicide counts. He has argued he fired in self-defense after protesters attacked him.
Black Lives Matter supporters have painted him as a trigger-happy white supremacist, but some conservatives see him as a symbol for gun rights and have rallied around him, generating $2 million for his bail in November.
Rittenhouse’s defense attorney did not immediately respond to a message and email seeking comment on prosecutors’ latest motion.
Rittenhouse’s trial is scheduled to start Nov. 1.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prosecutors-seek-show-evidence-past-violence-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-n1273005?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR31C2PQIM9QmiCVPsoBPN4Cg7aNzTyDZYtsNwclYB8t-YbUHoQgLWxOvrE
Even if the judge rules against using this at trail, it's already in the public domain.
I wonder if Chauvin's defense played the arrest video from two years ago, showing Floyd do his "Don't shoot!", Mama!", and uncooperative/non-compliant routine.
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Black Lives Matter supporters (Libturdz) have painted him as a trigger-happy white supremacist, but some conservatives see him as a symbol for gun rights and have rallied around him, generating $2
In the meantime, they (Libz, BLM ANTIFA) are out killing Cops, innocent folks, shooting and looting, killing kids, most peacefully of course.
Libturdz deserve painful deaths. Human scum.
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In the meantime, they (Libz, BLM ANTIFA) are out killing Cops, innocent folks, shooting and looting, killing kids, most peacefully of course.
Libturdz deserve painful deaths. Human scum.
Everyone they idolize is scum.
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Of course it was self-Defence. Rittenhouse, McKloskies, HR 127, School shootings, mass shootings, etc are all attacks on our 2A rights. Especially School and mass shootings, the left absolutely looooooves when there are School shootings but also notice nothing is ever said about the mass shootings in Chicago every week in a city with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country 🤔
The McKloskies were armed ,on their own property ,to protect it, IF the nearby protest mob tried to vandalize it.
They didn't shoot anyone and did NOTHING wrong .
Kyle Rittenhouse drove across state lines to put himself in the middle of a conflict .
He didn't need to be there, went fully armed and shot 2 people. BIG difference.
I'd say the same thing if a BLM protestor traveled to a protest , was armed and shot 2 people.
My judgement doesn't change because of politics and I tend to support the cops.
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They really need to leave this kid alone. An obvious case of self defense. They should give that kid a medal.
Kyle Rittenhouse defense team’s use-of-force expert says shots the teen fired in Kenosha were justified
Published: Oct. 8, 2021
By Associated Press
Prosecutor argues at pretrial hearing that John Black is an expert in the use of force by police, not by civilians
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kyle-rittenhouse-defense-teams-use-of-force-expert-says-shots-the-teen-fired-in-kenosha-were-justified-01633694482
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They really need to leave this kid alone. An obvious case of self defense. They should give that kid a medal.
Kyle Rittenhouse defense team’s use-of-force expert says shots the teen fired in Kenosha were justified
Published: Oct. 8, 2021
By Associated Press
Prosecutor argues at pretrial hearing that John Black is an expert in the use of force by police, not by civilians
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kyle-rittenhouse-defense-teams-use-of-force-expert-says-shots-the-teen-fired-in-kenosha-were-justified-01633694482
Of course was. There is no other conclusion but leave it to activist prosecutors and judges to keep people from protecting themselves giving no regard to the second amendment.
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Rittenhouse prosecutors ask that men shot not be described as 'looters' or 'rioters' during trial
Judge also weighing whether to allow self-defense expert to testify at trial
By Danielle Wallace | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-back-in-court-looters-rioters-self-defense-expert
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Rittenhouse prosecutors ask that men shot not be described as 'looters' or 'rioters' during trial
Judge also weighing whether to allow self-defense expert to testify at trial
By Danielle Wallace | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-back-in-court-looters-rioters-self-defense-expert
There's no proof that they were rioter's or looters...just protesters. Unless they have proof of them committing crimes then it shouldn't be allowed
The judge btw ruled that they couldn't be calked victims. The jury can decide it and i respect the judge for letting it play out
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There's no proof that they were rioter's or looters...just protesters. Unless they have proof of them committing crimes then it shouldn't be allowed
The judge btw ruled that they couldn't be calked victims. The jury can decide it and i respect the judge for letting it play out
True. We don't know for sure if the people who attacked this kid were rioting and looting.
What we do know is this was unquestionably self-defense and a righteous shoot. Plain as day on the video.
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There's no proof that they were rioter's or looters...just protesters. Unless they have proof of them committing crimes then it shouldn't be allowed
The judge btw ruled that they couldn't be calked victims. The jury can decide it and i respect the judge for letting it play out
He was hit over the head with a skate board followed up with a guy with a gun who later said “I should have killed him” (paraphrasing). Rittenhouse had no choice also, you might want to research who these two “victims” were.
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He was hit over the head with a skate board followed up with a guy with a gun who later said “I should have killed him” (paraphrasing). Rittenhouse had no choice also, you might want to research who these two “victims” were.
It can be argued that the guy was trying to disarm him with a skateboard after shooting and killing people. I think he is a murderer but he's getting his day in court
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It can be argued that the guy was trying to disarm him with a skateboard after shooting and killing people. I think he is a murderer but he's getting his day in court
Wouldn’t fly with a tons of footage
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It can be argued that the guy was trying to disarm him with a skateboard after shooting and killing people. I think he is a murderer but he's getting his day in court
A murderer? Why wasn’t anyone else targeted then? Why did he go back to give medical aid?
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It can be argued that the guy was trying to disarm him with a skateboard after shooting and killing people. I think he is a murderer but he's getting his day in court
False - the facts do not support this at all.
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It can be argued that the guy was trying to disarm him with a skateboard after shooting and killing people. I think he is a murderer but he's getting his day in court
A murderer? No way. You must not have watched the clips of the shooting. You should check them out.
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There's no proof that they were rioter's or looters...just protesters. Unless they have proof of them committing crimes then it shouldn't be allowed
The judge btw ruled that they couldn't be calked victims. The jury can decide it and i respect the judge for letting it play out
A peaceful protest ::) ::) ::) ::)
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A murderer? No way. You must not have watched the clips of the shooting. You should check them out.
Oh relax, i doubt that he'll be convicted...wont be unanimous
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Oh relax, i doubt that he'll be convicted...wont be unanimous
I have no idea if he will be convicted. No one ever knows what a jury will do. I'm talking about the facts. You should watch the clips of what actually happened.
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A peaceful protest ::) ::) ::) ::)
Everyone one of these fuckers are cowards
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I have no idea if he will be convicted. No one ever knows what a jury will do. I'm talking about the facts. You should watch the clips of what actually happened.
I did.. murder easily. Guy with the skateboard was trying to disarm him after shooting him. Stand your ground doesnt cover that...he's a cold blooded killer
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A peaceful protest ::) ::) ::) ::)
Were these guys destroying property...any proof. Still no reason to gun someone down
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I did.. murder easily. Guy with the skateboard was trying to disarm him after shooting him. Stand your ground doesnt cover that...he's a cold blooded killer
Sorry Vince, not even close to murder. You need to learn the difference between Immediate and an imminent threat. Kid had no choice. Learn the laws of the state. This is a activist prosecutor hell bent on suppressing the second amendment. Same deal in with the McKloskies. They have every right to protect their property and themselves against threat.
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@Vince - Do you think anyone took little Kyle up the ole highway while he was in da joint?
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I did.. murder easily. Guy with the skateboard was trying to disarm him after shooting him. Stand your ground doesnt cover that...he's a cold blooded killer
So you saw the guy trying to clock him with a skateboard and the guy who tried to pick up a gun to shoot him?
This isn't a "stand your ground" case. It's a self-defense case. All he has to show is that he had a reasonable fear of serious harm or death. The videos very clearly show they were trying to hurt or kill this kid.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/26/men-shot-by-kyle-rittenhouse-can-be-called-rioters-looters-but-not-victims-judge-rules/
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Good summary.
Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Legal experts see strong self-defense claim
By Michael Tarm and Todd Richmond
Published October 28, 2021
Crime and Public SafetyAssociated Press
KENOSHA, Wis. - When Kyle Rittenhouse goes on trial Monday for shooting three men during street protests in Wisconsin that followed the police shooting of Jacob Blake last summer, he'll argue that he fired in self-defense.
Legal experts say under Wisconsin law he has a strong case. What's less clear is whether prosecutors will be able to persuade the jury that Rittenhouse created a deadly situation by showing up in Kenosha with an AR-style semiautomatic rifle — and that in doing so he forfeited his claim to self-defense.
Rittenhouse, 18, of Antioch, Illinois, faces six counts, including homicide charges in the Aug. 25, 2020, deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, and he could face life in prison if convicted of the most serious charge.
Rittenhouse, then 17, was among people who responded to calls on social media to travel to Kenosha bearing weapons to protect the city from damaging protests that followed a white police officer shooting Blake, a Black man, in the back on Aug. 23. (A prosecutor later cleared the officer, ruling that Blake was turning toward the officer with a knife.)
Rittenhouse and all three men he shot are white.
Here's a look at the legal issues in the Rittenhouse case:
WHAT HAPPENED?
The Rittenhouse case isn't a whodunit. Bystander video captured most of the shootings.
It shows an unarmed Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse into the parking lot of a used car dealership. At one point, Rosenbaum throws a plastic bag at Rittenhouse before the two move off-camera and Rittenhouse fires the fatal shots at around 11:45 p.m.
Soon after, Rittenhouse is seen running down a street away from the scene with several protesters on his heels. He falls. Huber appears to strike him in the head and neck area with a skateboard; Rittenhouse shoots Huber, striking him in the heart.
Seconds later, Gaige Grosskreutz steps toward Rittenhouse holding a pistol. Rittenhouse shoots him, badly injuring Grosskreutz's arm. Rittenhouse then gets to his feet and leaves the scene.
WHAT DOES THE DEFENSE CLAIM?
Self-defense, pure and simple. Rittenhouse's attorneys say he came to Kenosha not to hurt anyone but to protect businesses from damage and looting. And they say the people he shot left him no choice.
They're expected to highlight Rosenbaum's pursuit of Rittenhouse, and Huber and Grosskreutz subsequently coming at him. The defense has said Rosenbaum and Huber tried to wrest Rittenhouse's rifle away, leading Rittenhouse to fear he would be shot with his own weapon.
The defense also wants to introduce evidence that police handed water to Rittenhouse and other rifle-carrying citizens, and said, "We appreciate you guys, we really do." They argue that the friendly greeting contributed to Rittenhouse thinking there was nothing wrong with his presence on the streets that night — and that it undermines any argument that he acted recklessly.
WHAT DO PROSECUTORS SAY?
Rittenhouse's trip to Kenosha will be a key part of their case. They portray him as a wannabe cop who came looking for trouble and fame, and that by bringing a rifle to the late-night protest, he was the primary cause of the deadly encounters.
They also argue that Rittenhouse wasn't there to protect businesses but to join other armed counterprotesters with whom he sympathized. Rittenhouse "was the aggressor, there with the intent to violently clash with those opposed to his beliefs," prosecutors have said.
Prosecutors had hoped to bolster their case by introducing as evidence a brief video taken 15 days before the protest shootings that shows Rittenhouse watching some men exit a CVS pharmacy and commenting that he wished he had his rifle so he could shoot them because prosecutors say he baselessly thought they were shoplifters. Thomas Binger, the lead prosecutor, said it showed Rittenhouse's mindset as "a teenage vigilante, involving himself in things that don't concern him." But Judge Bruce Schroeder questioned the relevance of the video to the charges. He ruled it wouldn't be allowed, though he suggested he could reassess that ruling later.
Schroeder has also blocked prosecutors from connecting Rittenhouse to the far-right extremist group the Proud Boys. Rittenhouse was photographed in January in a Wisconsin bar with some Proud Boys members, but his attorneys say Rittenhouse had no affiliation or involvement with the group.
WHAT DOES WISCONSIN LAW SAY ABOUT SELF-DEFENSE?
It allows someone to use deadly force only if "necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm." And it sets a two-part test for jurors.
First, they have to decide if Rittenhouse really believed he was in peril. Hindsight may show he was wrong. But did he sincerely believe it at the time?
Next, they must determine if Rittenhouse’s belief was objectively "reasonable." To make that call, jurors will be instructed to consider whether any reasonable person in Rittenhouse’s shoes would have also felt they had no choice but to shoot.
WHAT OTHER LEGAL FACTORS COME INTO PLAY?
Wisconsin law doesn't require someone whose life is in danger to flee before shooting. But jurors can consider whether someone tried to move away from danger as they assess the reasonableness of a self-defense claim. Self-defense can't be invoked by someone if they were an aggressor.
Wisconsin doesn't have a so-called stand-your-ground law that grants wide-ranging rights for a person to stay put and fend off an attack no matter where it occurs.
Rittenhouse faces two counts of homicide, one count of attempted homicide, and two counts of recklessly endangering safety for firing his gun near people adjacent to those he shot. A successful self-defense argument would seem to apply to all five of counts.
Rittenhouse faces a sixth count, possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18, that the defense unsuccessfully tried to get dismissed. Andrew Branca, a Colorado lawyer who wrote the book "The Law of Self Defense: Principles," said whether Rittenhouse was legally carrying the gun or not that night shouldn't factor into his right to self-defense.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF RITTENHOUSE TESTIFYING?
Defense lawyers normally oppose putting clients on the stand and typically only do so in last-resort bids for acquittals because the risks are too high. But some legal experts say defense calculations change when self-defense is claimed.
Paul Bucher, a Milwaukee-area lawyer and former Waukesha County district attorney, said once jurors hear from the defense that a client feared for his life, they expect to hear straight from the defendant about his or her mindset at the time of the shooting.
Prosecutors would surely welcome the chance to try and rattle Rittenhouse on cross-examination in front of jurors.
HOW DO LEGAL EXPERTS SEE THE CASE?
Under self-defense law and precedent, Rittenhouse's motives for being in Kenosha are irrelevant to whether he had a legal right to shoot when threatened, some legal experts say. What matters is what happened in the minutes surrounding the shooting, Branca said.
"If I had a 17-year-old-son, I would not encourage him to engage in this kind of behavior. But poor judgment is not a crime," said Branca, who thinks Rittenhouse has a strong case for self-defense.
Even if it isn't directly relevant to the self-defense claim, legal experts agreed that the question of why Rittenhouse was in Kenosha will loom over the trial.
"Everybody in that courtroom is going to be thinking he deserved what he got because he put himself in a hostile situation. … ‘What are you doing down there with a gun?’" said Bucher.
Branca said the law and facts should lead to Rittenhouse's acquittal, but said he's not sure that will happen.
"Trials are dangerous and unpredictable … and innocent people get convicted all the time," he said. "So it’s quite possible that Kyle Rittenhouse could be convicted in this case based on that kind of rhetoric, despite the legal merits of the charges."
https://www.fox6now.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-legal-experts-see-strong-self-defense-claim
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I did.. murder easily. Guy with the skateboard was trying to disarm him after shooting him. Stand your ground doesnt cover that...he's a cold blooded killer
How do you see "murder easily" based on these facts?
WHAT HAPPENED?
The Rittenhouse case isn't a whodunit. Bystander video captured most of the shootings.
It shows an unarmed Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse into the parking lot of a used car dealership. At one point, Rosenbaum throws a plastic bag at Rittenhouse before the two move off-camera and Rittenhouse fires the fatal shots at around 11:45 p.m.
Soon after, Rittenhouse is seen running down a street away from the scene with several protesters on his heels. He falls. Huber appears to strike him in the head and neck area with a skateboard; Rittenhouse shoots Huber, striking him in the heart.
Seconds later, Gaige Grosskreutz steps toward Rittenhouse holding a pistol. Rittenhouse shoots him, badly injuring Grosskreutz's arm. Rittenhouse then gets to his feet and leaves the scene.
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So you saw the guy trying to clock him with a skateboard and the guy who tried to pick up a gun to shoot him?
This isn't a "stand your ground" case. It's a self-defense case. All he has to show is that he had a reasonable fear of serious harm or death. The videos very clearly show they were trying to hurt or kill this kid.
I believe that he was trying to disarm him as a lot of people attempted to do. Thats how the jury will see it. I doubt that anyone would just outright go and attack someone with a rifle. Point being is that he put himself in that situation...no business even having a gun
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I believe that he was trying to disarm him as a lot of people attempted to do. Thats how the jury will see it. I doubt that anyone would just outright go and attack someone with a rifle. Point being is that he put himself in that situation...no business even having a gun
He had every right to have a gun.
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I believe that he was trying to disarm him as a lot of people attempted to do. Thats how the jury will see it. I doubt that anyone would just outright go and attack someone with a rifle. Point being is that he put himself in that situation...no business even having a gun
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The police wanted him there and thanked him for being there.
"Binger asked Schroeder to bar a video that shows police telling Rittenhouse and other armed militia members on the streets that they appreciated their presence and tossing Rittenhouse a bottle of water."
https://abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhosue-rittenhouse-trial-kenosha-protest-shooting-police-brutality/11167589/
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I believe that he was trying to disarm him as a lot of people attempted to do. Thats how the jury will see it. I doubt that anyone would just outright go and attack someone with a rifle. Point being is that he put himself in that situation...no business even having a gun
You have such a massive blindspot on these issues.
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The police wanted him there and thanked him for being there.
"Binger asked Schroeder to bar a video that shows police telling Rittenhouse and other armed militia members on the streets that they appreciated their presence and tossing Rittenhouse a bottle of water."
https://abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhosue-rittenhouse-trial-kenosha-protest-shooting-police-brutality/11167589/
Most police are appreciative for the help when they need it from law abiding citizens. Here in OC we have a 98% approval for CCW applicants. Riverside and San Bernardino counties aren’t far behind that. Since LA Co. Sheriff’s have taken over the CCW application process from LAPD, application approval is waaaaay up.
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A peaceful protest ::) ::) ::) ::)
they look just like the "tourists" that visited the Capitol on January 6th
I hope that fat little loser gets convicted
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they look just like the "tourists" that visited the Capitol on January 6th
I hope that fat little loser gets convicted
That Jan 6 narrative is failing, Karl but I did notice that the leftists that invaded and broke into the Interior Department (a federal building) in the name of fake climate change isn’t getting any press from your communist propaganda media.
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they look just like the "tourists" that visited the Capitol on January 6th
I hope that fat little loser gets convicted
Nah, definitely "Russian Bounty Hunters" from Afghanistan !.
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A peaceful protest ::) ::) ::) ::)
Mostly peaceful. I bet there will be more mostly peaceful protests after the trial is over whether or not he gets convicted.
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Mostly peaceful. I bet there will be more mostly peaceful protests after the trial is over whether or not he gets convicted.
Antifa is there now. If he doesn’t he convicted as he shouldn’t, that city will burn again if people don’t stop the little basement dwellers first
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Mostly peaceful. I bet there will be more mostly peaceful protests after the trial is over whether or not he gets convicted.
Governor Evers should pre-emptively call in the National Guard. He'd be derelict in his duties not to.
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Governor Evers should pre-emptively call in the National Guard. He'd be IS derelict in his duties.
You mean like he did on August 23 when HE (Evers) incited the mayhem with his incendiary tweet about Jacob Blake? Maybe like he did on August 24th by sending 125 NG (should have been more like 1200) ordering them and LE to stand down while the city was DESTROYED? How about the 25th when the NG was increased to 250? ::)
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You have such a massive blindspot on these issues.
I offered my opinion based on the video...its an uphill road to not find him guilty
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I offered my opinion based on the video...its an uphill road to not find him guilty
A detective and prosecution witness just testified that Rittenhouse was shot at.
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Governor Evers should pre-emptively call in the National Guard. He'd be derelict in his duties not to.
It is politically incorrect to call in the national guard. It is also becoming politically incorrect to use the term "law and order."
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I offered my opinion based on the video...its an uphill road to not find him guilty
THE video? What video? There are MANY videos, including at least one being verbally and physically threatened to be killed. Thank GOD you're not a juror.
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https://www.theblaze.com/shows/louder-with-crowder/rittenhouse-trial-judge-shutdown-prosecution-called-biased-evidence-irrelevrent?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1
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He's walking
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He's walking
I hope so. I just hope no matter the evidence proving he should walk, they may make this political to try to make an example of him to not have riots after the verdict
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Rittenhouse's Defense Team Shreds Gaige Grosskreutz, Third Person Shot, By Exposing Several Lies
Townhall ^ | Nov 08, 2021 2:25 PM | Julio Rosas
Posted on 11/9/2021, 7:36:22
KENOSHA, Wisc. — It was a bad day for key prosecution witness Gaige Grosskreutz, the third person shot by Kyle Rittenhouse during the Kenosha riots last year, during cross-examination by the defense on Monday as they got him to admit he lied several times about what happened in the aftermath of the shootings.
Grosskreutz testified he was carrying a Glock 27 handgun the night of the shootings despite the fact his concealed carry license was expired. Grosskreutz added he saw Rittenhouse running away after hearing gunshots. Grosskreutz said when he found Rittenhouse running away and asked him if he shot someone, Rittenhouse told Grosskreutz he was going to the police. Grosskreutz said he grabbed his handgun because he thought Rittenhouse was an active shooter.
Grosskreutz claimed Rittenhouse racked the bolt back on the AR-15 while he had his hands in the air.
"I was never trying to kill the defendant," Grosskreutz said.
Upon cross-examination, defense lawyer Corey Chirafisi got Grosskreutz to admit he lied to police on several occasions:
Grosskreutz told officers shortly after the shooting that "I dropped my firearm." The defense said that was a lie because Grosskreutz chased after Rittenhouse and he had just testified he pulled out his gun while running. The defense got Grosskreutz to admit in court in the lawsuit he has filed against the city of Kenosha, he is demanding $10 million for damages, he failed to mention he was armed when he was shot by Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz said it is not true to say he chased after Rittenhouse. Chirafisi then showed Grosskreutz a picture of him grabbing his handgun while running toward Rittenhouse. Even after being shown the photo, Grosskreutz still said he was not chasing Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz initially told police he shouted to Anthony Huber to stop hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard. When pressed by Chirafisi, Grosskreutz said "with the benefit of hindsight" that is not true.
If that was not enough, Grosskreutz then agreed with Chirafisi that Rittenhouse did not shoot until after Grosskreutz put his hands down and advanced toward Rittenhouse while pointing his Glock at Rittenhouse.
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This case provides a clear example of just how dishonest the media is. I've watched most of the testimony. The reporting of this testimony is shockingly dishonest. Almost every prosecution witness supported the fact that this was self defense. All three shoots were righteous. Actually all four, because he missed the guy who kicked him in the face with his boots.
Don't know what the jury will do, but this kid should be acquitted across the board. With quickness. If he is, get ready for "mostly peaceful" protests.
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The media is destroying everything.
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The media is destroying everything.
This is 100% true.
We can only hope that the Greenwalds, Taibbis, Krystal&Sagars and the Joe Rogans continue to gain popularity.
People who value legitimate discourse, regardless of whether they agree with their guests or the topic discussed.
I think they will. Our country has also being a majority of centrists, regardless if they fall a little more left or right. Good people overall, not racist, not mysoginists, not anti gay, just people who don't care about that stuff and want to live their lives.
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Liberal Billionaire Tweets Defense of Kyle Rittenhouse, Media Promptly Asks Him if Account Was Hacked
By Mike Miller | Nov 13, 2021
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/11/13/liberal-billionaire-tweets-defense-of-kyle-rittenhouse-media-promptly-asks-him-if-account-was-hacked-n475303
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Liberal Billionaire Tweets Defense of Kyle Rittenhouse, Media Promptly Asks Him if Account Was Hacked
By Mike Miller | Nov 13, 2021
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/11/13/liberal-billionaire-tweets-defense-of-kyle-rittenhouse-media-promptly-asks-him-if-account-was-hacked-n475303
Nice, but rare to see a liberal who thinks for himself.
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I hope so. I just hope no matter the evidence proving he should walk, they may make this political to try to make an example of him to not have riots after the verdict
Your post is confusing. But then, sometimes I need help figuring out what you actually intended to convey. Initially, I thought you were hoping there would not be riots following the verdict, whatever it is. On second reading, it appears you hope this trial and its outcome won't discourage folks from rioting in the future. Are you suggesting we need more riots and protests and that these are somehow beneficial?
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Nice, but rare to see a liberal who thinks for himself.
They definitely do not tolerate opposing viewpoints.
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Bunch of sick mofos.
Vile messages sent to Rittenhouse judge include death threat against his children, call him a KKK member: report
Among the most disturbing messages to Schroeder was one that threatens the lives of the judge's children, promises "pay back," and states that Rittenhouse "won't live long" if acquitted.
Vile messages sent to Rittenhouse judge include death threat against his children, call him a KKK member: report
Hannah Nightingale
Washington DC
November 14, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/rittenhouse-judge-vile-messages
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Your post is confusing. But then, sometimes I need help figuring out what you actually intended to convey. Initially, I thought you were hoping there would not be riots following the verdict, whatever it is. On second reading, it appears you hope this trial and its outcome won't discourage folks from rioting in the future. Are you suggesting we need more riots and protests and that these are somehow beneficial?
Maybe read his post again in the morning when you're awake.
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Maybe read his post again in the morning when you're awake.
Thanks...I will do that. Today's events on Getbig have resulted in my being a bit 'under the weather', so to speak.
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;D
Liberals Accuse Rittenhouse Of Trying To Avoid Punishment Through Legal Loophole Known As 'Trial'
Politics
November 12th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com
KENOSHA, WI—Leftists are sounding the alarm that Kyle Rittenhouse—a notorious slayer of white communist pedophiles—may escape punishment through a little-known legal loophole known as a "trial."
"This is very concerning," said Chip Cordray, progressive legal expert covering the case. "Using this obscure loophole, Rittenhouse's fate will be decided by an impartial jury of peers based on evidence, rather than the whims of noble communist revolutionaries on Twitter—such as Bette Midler and Joe Biden."
Experts confirm that if Rittenhouse is found "not guilty," liberals won't be getting their way, which could lead to massive temper-tantrums, such as arson and looting.
"We can't let this happen," said Cordray. "It's time to talk about closing the 'trial' loophole so that justice can be done according to the whims of the leftist mob, as our founding fathers intended."
https://babylonbee.com/news/liberals-accuse-rittenhouse-of-trying-to-avoid-punishment-through-legal-loophole-known-as-trial
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Bunch of sick mofos.
Vile messages sent to Rittenhouse judge include death threat against his children, call him a KKK member: report
Among the most disturbing messages to Schroeder was one that threatens the lives of the judge's children, promises "pay back," and states that Rittenhouse "won't live long" if acquitted.
Vile messages sent to Rittenhouse judge include death threat against his children, call him a KKK member: report
Hannah Nightingale
Washington DC
November 14, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/rittenhouse-judge-vile-messages
The probably got the idea from the hundreds of examples of Republican leaving death threats for fellow Republicans who certified the election results or voted for the infrastructure bill
Weird how you've never cited those examples as a bunch of sick MoFo's
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The probably got the idea from the hundreds of examples of Republican leaving death threats for fellow Republicans who certified the election results or voted for the infrastructure bill
Weird how you've never cited those examples as a bunch of sick MoFo's
I'm sure that's what happened.
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I'm sure that's what happened.
lol :D
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An open letter to Kyle Rittenhouse from Nicholas Sandmann. Well done.
The corrupt liberal media came for me, just like they came for Kyle Rittenhouse, and if he decides to sue I say go for it and hold the media accountable: NICHOLAS SANDMANN
By NICHOLAS SANDMANN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 16 November 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10208119/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-NICHOLAS-SANDMANN-media-defamation.html
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An open letter to Kyle Rittenhouse from Nicholas Sandmann. Well done.
The corrupt liberal media came for me, just like they came for Kyle Rittenhouse, and if he decides to sue I say go for it and hold the media accountable: NICHOLAS SANDMANN
By NICHOLAS SANDMANN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 16 November 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10208119/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-NICHOLAS-SANDMANN-media-defamation.html
I hope this kid get at least hundreds of millions out of this starting with the state of Wisconsin for even allowing this to happen then move on to every media outlet and liberals talking head for defamation
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An open letter to Kyle Rittenhouse from Nicholas Sandmann. Well done.
The corrupt liberal media came for me, just like they came for Kyle Rittenhouse, and if he decides to sue I say go for it and hold the media accountable: NICHOLAS SANDMANN
By NICHOLAS SANDMANN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 16 November 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10208119/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-NICHOLAS-SANDMANN-media-defamation.html
Who wrote that Sandmann was one of the WaPo and CNN's highest paid employees? ;D
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I hope this kid get at least hundreds of millions out of this starting with the state of Wisconsin for even allowing this to happen then move on to every media outlet and liberals talking head for defamation
Me too.
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Who wrote that Sandmann was one of the WaPo and CNN's highest paid employees? ;D
;D
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I hope this kid get at least hundreds of millions out of this starting with the state of Wisconsin for even allowing this to happen then move on to every media outlet and liberals talking head for defamation
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
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Good summary of how the media and members of Congress have been lying about this kid and the entire situation.
The Media's Verdict on Kyle Rittenhouse
Why so many got this story so wrong.
Bari Weiss
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-medias-verdict-on-kyle-rittenhouse
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Good summary of how the media and members of Congress have been lying about this kid and the entire situation.
The Media's Verdict on Kyle Rittenhouse
Why so many got this story so wrong.
Bari Weiss
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-medias-verdict-on-kyle-rittenhouse
Hmm, maybe we should look at some example about how Republican and THE TRAITOR constantly lied about BLM and others
I mean, if you're actually really concerned about politicians lying about things like this
Here is one to start: https://www.denverpost.com/2020/08/28/fact-check-trump-rnc-speech/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/us/politics/antifa-conspiracy-capitol-riot.html
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Me too.
I hope this kid get at least hundreds of millions out of this starting with the state of Wisconsin for even allowing this to happen then move on to every media outlet and liberals talking head for defamation
If he's convicted maybe you two can visit him in prison and bring him some cookies
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Hmm, maybe we should look at some example about how Republican and THE TRAITOR constantly lied about BLM and others
I mean, if you're actually really concerned about politicians lying about things like this
Here is one to start: https://www.denverpost.com/2020/08/28/fact-check-trump-rnc-speech/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/us/politics/antifa-conspiracy-capitol-riot.html
Trump-Trump-Trump-He owns my mind-Trump-Trump-Trump-All the time-Trump-Trump-Trump
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Trump-Trump-Trump-He owns my mind-Trump-Trump-Trump-All the time-Trump-Trump-Trump
She is incapable of any sort of interaction without repeating every media Trump talking point.
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She is incapable of any sort of interaction without repeating every media Trump talking point.
;D
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She is incapable of any sort of interaction without repeating every media Trump talking point.
I know. Straw is probably like Rosie O'Donnell and going to therapy for TDS ever since the 2016 election. "He" may actually be Rosie O'Donnell.
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Not guilty. The jury got it right. God Bless that kid.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/rittenhouse-sandmann-agree-to-share-joint-custody-of-cnn
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9958-1.jpg)
Rittenhouse, Sandmann Agree To Share Joint Custody Of CNN
ATLANTA, GA—With Rittenhouse found "not guilty", media outlets across the country are preparing for costly defamation lawsuits after a year of calling him a white supremacist.
With CNN already half-owned by Nick Sandmann, the famous fake news organization will soon be giving the other half of its ownership over to Kyle Rittenhouse. The two have agreed to share joint custody.
"We would like to announce that our clients have come to an agreement to share custody of CNN," said Sandman and Rittenhouse's legal teams. "Sandmann will have custody on weekdays, with custody transferring over to Rittenhouse on holidays and weekends."
After the announcement, Rittenhouse began weeping upon realizing he was now a multimillionaire, while Sandmann smirked like a big MAGA hat-wearing jerkface.
Neither party has decided what to do with Brian Stelter, who may have to be put up for adoption.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/rittenhouse-sandmann-agree-to-share-joint-custody-of-cnn
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9958-1.jpg)
Rittenhouse, Sandmann Agree To Share Joint Custody Of CNN
ATLANTA, GA—With Rittenhouse found "not guilty", media outlets across the country are preparing for costly defamation lawsuits after a year of calling him a white supremacist.
With CNN already half-owned by Nick Sandmann, the famous fake news organization will soon be giving the other half of its ownership over to Kyle Rittenhouse. The two have agreed to share joint custody.
"We would like to announce that our clients have come to an agreement to share custody of CNN," said Sandman and Rittenhouse's legal teams. "Sandmann will have custody on weekdays, with custody transferring over to Rittenhouse on holidays and weekends."
After the announcement, Rittenhouse began weeping upon realizing he was now a multimillionaire, while Sandmann smirked like a big MAGA hat-wearing jerkface.
Neither party has decided what to do with Brian Stelter, who may have to be put up for adoption.
;D
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Trump-Trump-Trump-He owns my mind-Trump-Trump-Trump-All the time-Trump-Trump-Trump
Don't you like reading about your messiah?
I only brought it up to remind you that THE TRAITOR has done more of what Bum is whining about than anyone else
Did you see how Biden reacted to the Rittenhouse decision
That's how a POTUS is supposed to react, assuming one actually respects the rule of law
THE TRAITOR of course is famous for whining how everything is so unfair after trials when he didn't like the results
and often made comments before and during trials that were deemed by many legal experts as an attempt at witness tampering or witness intimidation
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Not guilty. The jury got it right. God Bless that kid.
Thank God. This is going to be a rich kid.
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Why is Biden angry and concerned ?!
Don't you like reading about your messiah?
I only brought it up to remind you that THE TRAITOR has done more of what Bum is whining about than anyone else
Did you see how Biden reacted to the Rittenhouse decision
That's how a POTUS is supposed to react, assuming one actually respects the rule of law
THE TRAITOR of course is famous for whining how everything is so unfair after trials when he didn't like the results
and often made comments before and during trials that were deemed by many legal experts as an attempt at witness tampering or witness intimidation
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Why is Biden angry and concerned ?!
Hopefully, politicians get sued from this, especially Ayana Pressley.
The case was textbook self defense.
Being saddened by this means you don't respect or know the laws of the country.
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Don't you like reading about your messiah?
I only brought it up to remind you that THE TRAITOR has done more of what Bum is whining about than anyone else
Did you see how Biden reacted to the Rittenhouse decision
That's how a POTUS is supposed to react, assuming one actually respects the rule of law
THE TRAITOR of course is famous for whining how everything is so unfair after trials when he didn't like the results
and often made comments before and during trials that were deemed by many legal experts as an attempt at witness tampering or witness intimidation
That's rich, the rule of law....like the left follows the Constitution?
Real leaders don't wear diapers and shit on the Pope....then fart on Camilla for kicks.
TDS lives on.
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Hopefully, politicians get sued from this, especially Ayana Pressley.
The case was textbook self defense.
Being saddened by this means you don't respect or know the laws of the country.
The liberal meltdowns are pathetic and unbelievable.
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“Rittenhouse Should Pay for his Crimes”: ASU Students Demand the Expulsion of Kyle Rittenhouse
November 28, 2021
https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/28/rittenhouse-should-pay-for-his-crimes-asu-students-demand-the-expulsion-of-kyle-rittenhouse/
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“Rittenhouse Should Pay for his Crimes”: ASU Students Demand the Expulsion of Kyle Rittenhouse
November 28, 2021
https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/28/rittenhouse-should-pay-for-his-crimes-asu-students-demand-the-expulsion-of-kyle-rittenhouse/
He'd be crazy to go to any college with all the left wing nutjobs there. He should focus on civil court cases and winning enough money to be comfortable for the rest of his life.
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He'd be crazy to go to any college with all the left wing nutjobs there. He should focus on civil court cases and winning enough money to be comfortable for the rest of his life.
His options are pretty limited. He should go to Hillsdale IMO.
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His options are pretty limited. He should go to Hillsdale IMO.
That would be his best choice if he decides to go.
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This is ridiculous. He's an online student. Hope the college refuses to expel him. It is interesting and slightly ironic that he is nursing student.
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“Rittenhouse Should Pay for his Crimes”: ASU Students Demand the Expulsion of Kyle Rittenhouse
November 28, 2021
https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/28/rittenhouse-should-pay-for-his-crimes-asu-students-demand-the-expulsion-of-kyle-rittenhouse/
He better get used to this
The justice system might have left him off but the court of public opinion won't be so lenient...just like OJ
Supposedly he's considering changing his name and appearance but I doubt that will help much
People will still know who is and will want nothing to do with him
The little fat loser should consider joining the military
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He better get used to this
The justice system might have left him off but the court of public opinion won't be so lenient...just like OJ
Supposedly he's considering changing his name and appearance but I doubt that will help much
People will still know who is and will want nothing to do with him
The little fat loser should consider joining the military
Kyle enlisting in the military is not a great idea.
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Kyle enlisting in the military is not a great idea.
I doubt he's considering it but why do you think that?
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Are you two having fantasy talk about this young man and his future? :D
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Kyle enlisting in the military is not a great idea.
I’d rather him fighting the enemy than some tranny with a purse and purple hair.
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I’d rather him fighting the enemy than some tranny with a purse and purple hair.
Good point. Transsexuals' already have enough to worry about. Their chances of being seriously injured or murdered is already very high. So far this year at least 48 trans people have been murdered. Nobody knows the actually number because many go unreported.
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Pathetic liberal douchebags trying to stop someone from getting an education, who's bullying who?
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Kyle enlisting in the military is not a great idea.
It's a great idea for every able bodied young person to serve. He would make a great sniper.
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It's a great idea for every able bodied young person to serve. He would make a great sniper.
He shot the first jackball four times in 0.739 seconds. I think snipers are more deliberate. :D
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He shot the first jackball four times in 0.739 seconds. I think snipers are more deliberate. :D
The reaction times of the best fast draw shooters is 0.145 seconds, which means that the gun is cocked, drawn, aimed (from the hip), and fired in just over 0.06 seconds. Hitting the target from a great distance is a sniper's goal.
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He shot the first jackball four times in 0.739 seconds. I think snipers are more deliberate. :D
Plus he missed Jump Kick Man. He has work to do, but he's got potential. :)
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Body Cam Is out on Rittenhouse Jury Stalking and It Just Nails NBC to the Wall
By Nick Arama | Dec 01, 2021
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/12/01/body-cam-is-out-on-rittenhouse-jury-stalking-and-it-just-nails-nbc-to-the-wall-n484746
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How were they intimidated?
No photos were taken, no words were spoken (as far as I know) and he had no contact with any of them
If you want to see some actual voter intimidation and interference I can give you a long list of instances from THE TRATOR over the the last 4 years.
If the fat little murderer is convicted I'm sure your side will send avalanche of death threats to those jurors
Seems reasonable given the recently history of Republican making death threats to various government official, many of whom are actually fellow Republicans.
Body Cam Is out on Rittenhouse Jury Stalking and It Just Nails NBC to the Wall
By Nick Arama | Dec 01, 2021
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/12/01/body-cam-is-out-on-rittenhouse-jury-stalking-and-it-just-nails-nbc-to-the-wall-n484746
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Why are people still going on about this? The Jury reached a decision almost two weeks ago. It is over. Move on.
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Why are people still going on about this? The Jury reached a decision almost two weeks ago. It is over. Move on.
Because it was a trial that garnered nationwide attention, showed how corrupt and dishonest the media and politicians continue to be, and newsworthy items are still happening, like the body cam video I posted. It shows MSNBC was spying on jurors and lied about it.
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Because it was a trial that garnered nationwide attention, showed how corrupt and dishonest the media and politicians continue to be, and newsworthy items are still happening, like the body cam video I posted. It shows MSNBC was spying on jurors and lied about it.
And what do you see changing because of this revelation about MSNBC's tactics?
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And what do you see changing because of this revelation about MSNBC's tactics?
I have no idea what will change as a result of MSNBC's dishonesty being exposed. But that isn't a test for whether or not something is newsworthy or should be discussed.
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It's a great idea for every able bodied young person to serve. He would make a great sniper.
I wonder if the Kenosha protestors were all openly carrying if Kyle would have been so eager to show up?
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I wonder if the Kenosha protestors were all openly carrying if Kyle would have been so eager to show up?
Given that it's an open carry state and people walk around with weapons all the time, I say yes. And two of the criminals involved in this incident were packing.
Don't forget Kyle was in Kenosha earlier in the day painting over graffiti.
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Given that it's an open carry state and people walk around with weapons all the time, I say yes. And two of the criminals involved in this incident were packing.
Don't forget Kyle was in Kenosha earlier in the day painting over graffiti.
Specifically, if a couple dozen hippies and or brothers were walking around with automatic rifles or semi automatic rifles not a few douche bags with skateboards, sticks, and even a couple of hand guns, would he have still been there? I'm not so sure. To me, open carry is a bully tactic.
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The reaction times of the best fast draw shooters is 0.145 seconds, which means that the gun is cocked, drawn, aimed (from the hip), and fired in just over 0.06 seconds. Hitting the target from a great distance is a sniper's goal.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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Specifically, if a couple dozen hippies and or brothers were walking around with automatic rifles or semi automatic rifles not a few douche bags with skateboards, sticks, and even a couple of hand guns, would he have still been there? I'm not so sure. To me, open carry is a bully tactic.
No automatic rifles, c'mon, man!
Vermont is an open carry state, one of the safest states in the country.
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Specifically, if a couple dozen hippies and or brothers were walking around with automatic rifles or semi automatic rifles not a few douche bags with skateboards, sticks, and even a couple of hand guns, would he have still been there? I'm not so sure. To me, open carry is a bully tactic.
Have you been to Wisconsin? It's not uncommon at all to see people carrying firearms. It's legal. It's constitutional. It's a way of life there.
The only reason those thugs felt threatened is people like Kyle were putting out the fires they were starting and deterring them from smashing up more cars.
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Have you been to Wisconsin? It's not uncommon at all to see people carrying firearms. It's legal. It's constitutional. It's a way of life there.
The only reason those thugs felt threatened is people like Kyle were putting out the fires they were starting and deterring them from smashing up more cars.
I get it. It's legal there. Never in dispute. I'm saying I don't like it. It's a bully tactic. That's it. I don't think Kyle and many others would be as eager to counter protest if the other side were open carrying as well. That's it. My opinion. Nothing more.
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I wonder if the Kenosha protestors were all openly carrying if Kyle would have been so eager to show up?
The "protestors" had no problem showing up while Kyle was armed, they seemed eager to chase him down and assault him, regardless of the fact he was armed.
You don't seem to be talking about any of the "protestors" that were armed.
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Last time. If 25 protesters were there brandishing the very weapon Kyle was. I think that night ends up very differently. I know those guys had weapons. Legit weapons, make shift or otherwise. But, they weren't marching around with AR-15's.
Nobody needs to be walking around with AR-15's in this country. This is America. Not fucking Yemen. We should all want to be better. We should strive for more civil discourse, etc. etc. etc.
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Last time. If 25 protesters were there brandishing the very weapon Kyle was. I think that night ends up very differently. I know those guys had weapons. Legit weapons, make shift or otherwise. But, they weren't marching around with AR-15's.
Nobody needs to be walking around with AR-15's in this country. This is America. Not fucking Yemen. We should all want to be better. We should strive for more civil discourse, etc. etc. etc.
You have no idea about gun stats, do you want to learn or talk liberal bullshit?
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You have no idea about gun stats, do you want to learn or talk liberal bullshit?
Tell me about gun stats all you want. I don't fucking care. "It's when the other guy pulls out his gun. That's when we find out who the tough guy is". Bronx Tale in case you were wondering.
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Tell me about gun stats all you want. I don't fucking care. "It's when the other guy pulls out his gun. That's when we find out who the tough guy is". Bronx Tale in case you were wondering.
Of course you don't, you just want your way, typical liberal mentality. :)
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Of course you don't, you just want your way, typical liberal mentality. :)
You are arguing with yourself. Have all the guns you want. Open carry if that makes you feel better and it's legal where you live. I think Kyle would have bailed if he saw "the other side" strapped as heavily as himself. I could be wrong. But that is totally my opinion.
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I get it. It's legal there. Never in dispute. I'm saying I don't like it. It's a bully tactic. That's it. I don't think Kyle and many others would be as eager to counter protest if the other side were open carrying as well. That's it. My opinion. Nothing more.
Kyle wasn't protesting. He was painting over graffiti, taping up an injured protester's ankle, running around with his medical bag trying to help others, and putting out fires.
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Kyle wasn't protesting. He was painting over graffiti, taping up an injured protester's ankle, running around with his medical bag trying to help others, and putting out fires.
Understood. I also would have acquitted him if I were on that jury. He was there with good intentions. I've become convinced of that as of late. But, I think once he finished his painting and medical work he would have called it a day had he seen a couple dozen AR-15's in not so friendly hands. I also wouldn't blame him.
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Last time. If 25 protesters were there brandishing the very weapon Kyle was. I think that night ends up very differently. I know those guys had weapons. Legit weapons, make shift or otherwise. But, they weren't marching around with AR-15's.
Nobody needs to be walking around with AR-15's in this country. This is America. Not fucking Yemen. We should all want to be better. We should strive for more civil discourse, etc. etc. etc.
I think this is a geographical sentiment. People who live in cement cities with little or no access to firearms tend to view any scary looking firearm as a threat, regardless of how it is used. People in the midwest and other places where firearms are all over the place, lawfully, don't feel threatened when they see firearms, including scary looking firearms. I'm not about to tell any American that they should not be walking around with AR15 (or any other firearm). I'll let the Constitution speak to what the government is restrained from interfering with.
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Understood. I also would have acquitted him if I were on that jury. He was there with good intentions. I've become convinced of that as of late. But, I think once he finished his painting and medical work he would have called it a day had he seen a couple dozen AR-15's in not so friendly hands. I also wouldn't blame him.
Possibly. I doubt it though. People like him are not intimidated by others openly carrying firearms.
Props to you for looking at the facts. This is as clear a case of self defense as I've seen.
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Understood. I also would have acquitted him if I were on that jury. He was there with good intentions. I've become convinced of that as of late. But, I think once he finished his painting and medical work he would have called it a day had he seen a couple dozen AR-15's in not so friendly hands. I also wouldn't blame him.
And what the heck happened on Sunday?? I was all set with my popcorn, waiting on Michael Buffer to do an intro. Then nothing. No throwing hands. Just basketball.
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And what the heck happened on Sunday?? I was all set with my popcorn, waiting on Michael Buffer to do an intro. Then nothing. No throwing hands. Just basketball.
Someone told Isiah Stewart that if you want to stay in this league you'd better squash it. Yesterday. But yeah, what a dud.
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I love this kid. ;D
“I was a Lakers fan too before he said that. I was really pissed off when he said that because I liked LeBron, and then I’m like, you know what, f**k you, LeBron,” Rittenhouse said while appearing on “You Are Here” when asked about LeBron’s infamous tweet.
Kyle Rittenhouse says ‘F-You’ Lebron after comment during trial [FULL INTERVIEW]
DEC. 6, 2021 BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/kyle-rittenhouse-says-f-you-lebron-after-comment-during-trial-full-interview/
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I love this kid. ;D
“I was a Lakers fan too before he said that. I was really pissed off when he said that because I liked LeBron, and then I’m like, you know what, f**k you, LeBron,” Rittenhouse said while appearing on “You Are Here” when asked about LeBron’s infamous tweet.
Kyle Rittenhouse says ‘F-You’ Lebron after comment during trial [FULL INTERVIEW]
DEC. 6, 2021 BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/kyle-rittenhouse-says-f-you-lebron-after-comment-during-trial-full-interview/
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;D
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‘I’ll Be There In The Spring!’: Rittenhouse Says Protests To Get Him Booted From ASU Have Failed
Dec 7, 2021 DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ill-be-there-in-the-spring-rittenhouse-says-protests-to-get-him-booted-from-asu-have-failed
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I am really starting to like this kid. Who's son is he on here?
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‘I’ll Be There In The Spring!’: Rittenhouse Says Protests To Get Him Booted From ASU Have Failed
Dec 7, 2021 DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ill-be-there-in-the-spring-rittenhouse-says-protests-to-get-him-booted-from-asu-have-failed
He should skip college and focus on winning civil court cases. Antifa will target him at school.
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He should skip college and focus on winning civil court cases. Antifa will target him at school.
I think he is enrolling in the online program.
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Kyle Rittenhouse Reinstated On Social Media Platforms, Starts Posting
By Amanda Prestigiacomo
Dec 8, 2021 DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-reinstated-on-social-media-platforms-after-acquittal?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand&fbclid=IwAR0nmwq6YGPVmOtgQTlhaQTdTbV1ZvtAGQzquKgPO8tkX_sRjxCYPz1C3rI
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I think he is enrolling in the online program.
That makes sense. The only bad thing is he won't be able to interact with the hotties at ASU. They don't call it "broken condom university" for nothing.
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That makes sense. The only bad thing is he won't be able to interact with the hotties at ASU. They don't call it "broken condom university" for nothing.
Should freeze his sperm and get snipped immediately.
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I think he is enrolling in the online program.
He might as well get his degree in law because he's going to making millions off the networks and social media lawsuits.
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He might as well get his degree in law because he's going to making millions off the networks and social media lawsuits.
A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.
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Raising a generation of sissies.
Massachusetts school offers 'safe space' for 'students of color' after Rittenhouse, Arbery verdicts
One safe space was geared specifically to 'students of color'
By Adam Sabes | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusetts-school-offers-safe-space-for-students-of-color-after-rittenhouse-arbery-verdicts
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Raising a generation of sissies.
Massachusetts school offers 'safe space' for 'students of color' after Rittenhouse, Arbery verdicts
One safe space was geared specifically to 'students of color'
By Adam Sabes | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusetts-school-offers-safe-space-for-students-of-color-after-rittenhouse-arbery-verdicts
Bunch of Obama’s.
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Bunch of Obama’s.
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At least Obama can walk down a ramp without looking like an old man with a load in his Depends
Just noticed how bad THE TRAITORS face paint up looks in this clip
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A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.
He'll have millions before he graduates so obviously he would not be representing himself.
Considering his background he could go on to represent those who were in a similar situation.
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He'll have millions before he graduates so obviously he would not be representing himself.
Considering his background he could go on to represent those who were in a similar situation.
doubtful considering he said that he wanted to change his name and appearance and claimed to have destroyed the gun (when I assume he could have sold it to some right wing freak)
He claims to support BLM and said he somehow didn't know that he was flashing a racist sign when he took a photo with a bunch of racist
He doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer
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doubtful considering he said that he wanted to change his name and appearance and claimed to have destroyed the gun (when I assume he could have sold it to some right wing freak)
He claims to support BLM and said he somehow didn't know that he was flashing a racist sign when he took a photo with a bunch of racist
He doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer
Sharper than the dead guys.
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doubtful considering he said that he wanted to change his name and appearance and claimed to have destroyed the gun (when I assume he could have sold it to some right wing freak)
He claims to support BLM and said he somehow didn't know that he was flashing a racist sign when he took a photo with a bunch of racist
He doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer
Libs really will believe the last thing they heard and repeat it as truth. :D
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At least Obama can walk down a ramp without looking like an old man with a load in his Depends
Just noticed how bad THE TRAITORS face paint up looks in this clip
I'm old. Sometimes us old men have to concern ourselves with falling. He was being cautious. To his credit, he pulled it together once he exited the ramp.
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:D What a beast!!!
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Funny shit!
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He admitted at the criminal trial that he was only shot after he pointed a gun at Kyle. Idiot.
Kyle Rittenhouse hit with lawsuit from man he shot during 2020 Kenosha clash: 'Little bit of a shock'
Rittenhouse says he will prove his innocence again after he was acquitted on homicde charges
By Emma Colton | Fox News
Published February 21, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-hit-lawsuit-man-he-shot-2020-kenosha-clash-little-bit-shock
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He admitted at the criminal trial that he was only shot after he pointed a gun at Kyle. Idiot.
Kyle Rittenhouse hit with lawsuit from man he shot during 2020 Kenosha clash: 'Little bit of a shock'
Rittenhouse says he will prove his innocence again after he was acquitted on homicde charges
By Emma Colton | Fox News
Published February 21, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-hit-lawsuit-man-he-shot-2020-kenosha-clash-little-bit-shock
That will get thrown out.
Will cost Rittenhouse some legal fees though.
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That will get thrown out.
Will cost Rittenhouse some legal fees though.
It's a stupid claim.
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It's a stupid claim.
It doesn't matter....gotta run up the bill in legal fees.
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Grosskreutz v. Grosskreutz? Survivor from 2020 Kenosha Shooting Sues Kyle Rittenhouse
February 25, 2023
Just when you thought that the Kyle Rittenhouse case was over . . . it is back. Gaige Grosskreutz who was shot in the arm by Kyle Rittenhouse during the Kenosha riots in 2020 is now suing him as well as Wisconsin police and officials. Grosskreutz effectively repeats his earlier rejected claims that he was merely trying to protect others and had his hands up when Rittenhouse shot him. The difference is that this civil lawsuit will be resolved under the lower standard of proof by a preponderance of the evidence (rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). Nevertheless, the case could prove messy for Grosskreutz whose criminal background and actions that night could undermine his claims. Indeed, the most damaging witness against Grosskreutz may prove to be himself.
The lawsuit names as defendants Rittenhouse, the city of Kenosha, Kenosha County, five other neighboring counties, police officers, former Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth and former Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis. Grosskreutz alleges assault, battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. Rittenhouse was also added to Grosskreutz’s civil rights and Equal Protection claims against the city and local officials.
In the trial, Grosskreutz admitted that he pointed a firearm at Rittenhouse before the then-teenager shot Grosskreutz and two others. He testified that he carried a loaded gun that night and, during cross-examination, defense attorney Corey Chirafisi asked Grosskreutz, “It wasn’t until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him … that he fired, right?” Grosskreutz responded, “Correct.”
Grosskreutz also admitted that he refused initially to answer questions from the police and refused to give police permission to look through his phone. He also did not tell police that he was armed that night or pointed a gun at Rittenhouse. As shown in the testimony below, Grosskreutz admits that Rittenhouse did not shoot while Grosskreutz had his hands up. He fired when Grosskreutz pointed his Glock at Rittenhouse.
Grosskreutz also admitted that Rittenhouse told him that he was going to the police and was running in their direction. He also admitted that he lied to police when he said that he tried to tell a man with a skateboard to stop hitting Rittenhouse before he was shot. The false statement to police portrayed Rittenhouse as shooting him after he tried to help him.
The complaint repeatedly brushes over that earlier testimony and reframes the facts as if Grooskreutz was shot virtually randomly:
“Plaintiff Gaige Grosskreutz watched all of this happen.
He approached with his hands in the air to try to ease the situation and stop the killing. 27. Defendant Rittenhouse instead shot Mr. Grosskreutz in the bicep, leaving a gaping wound.
Thankfully, Mr. Grosskreutz did not die that day.
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Plaintiff Gaige Grosskreutz approached Defendant Rittenhouse with his hands up, pleading with him to stop his shooting rampage. Without provocation or any legal justification, Defendant Rittenhouse shot at Grosskreutz from point-blank range, hitting him in the arm. Thankfully, Grosskreutz survived.” But he must live with the physical and emotional wounds inflicted by Defendant Rittenhouse and the Defendants who deputized and enabled him. The conduct of the Defendants in this case directly caused Gaige Grosskreutz’s injury.”
Grosskreutz also admitted that it was him on his cellphone footage who angrily yelled at Rittenhouse to go home as Rittenhouse tried to give masks to protesters. He admitted that did not see any violent acts or threats from Rittenhouse before the shooting.
Grosskreutz also admitted his CCW permit was invalid and that he was therefore illegally carrying a concealed weapon on the night, though he insisted that he did not know it was invalid.
Grosskreutz was also questioned on the stand about his seeking $10 million in a lawsuit against the city and another lawsuit in federal court for damages. He admitted that he did not mention in the two filings that he was armed at the time. He also admitted in trial that a conviction of Rittenhouse would help him secure the $10 million.
It is not clear how he will get around that admissible earlier testimony. Instead, the complaint seems more of a diatribe against the police who it alleges “deputized these armed individuals, conspired with them, and ratified their actions by letting them patrol the streets, armed with deadly weapons, to mete out justice as they saw fit.” The problem is that these individuals had a right to carry guns. Indeed, Grosshreutz also came to the protest armed.
The complaint also alleges that Rittenhouse was linked to right-wing white nationalist and militia groups, noting that a member of the so-called Boogaloo Bois was seen “patrolling the streets” with Rittenhouse that night, and that he later met with Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio. It also states that “in the months after he killed two people and maimed Mr. Grosskreutz, Defendant Rittenhouse was seen in a bar in his hometown flashing an ‘OK’ sign, a symbol of white supremacy/white power.” Such evidence would be challenged by the defense as prejudicial and inadmissible at trial.
There is also likely to be fight over the admission of Grosskreutz’s criminal history, which was not fully admitted at the criminal trial. That criminal history extended a full decade before the Kenosha shooting and involved violence against his girlfriend. Indeed, just days before the shooting, Grosskreutz was arrested for allegedly “prowling” when he was videotaping police vehicles in a police department parking lot around 1 a.m.
In May 2015, Grosskreutz was stopped by police near Kenosha with allegedly “bloodshot and glassy” eyes and found to have a 9mm Glock 19 handgun in his vehicle.
In 2013, he was charged with smashing the bedroom window of former girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m.. The girlfriend alleged that he had been harassing her.
In 2012, Grosskreutz was charged with a felony burglary charge in New Berlin when he was caught trying to sell three stolen PlayStation consoles.
In 2010, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute. During the attack, he also allegedly threw a lamp and damaged a wall. He was charged with disorderly conduct and criminal damage.
He also reportedly had various sealed juvenile arrests.
The lower standard of proof will obviously work to the advantage of Grosskreutz, but it will be hard to get around his prior testimony or the image of him pointing the Glock at Rittenhouse before the teenager fired, wounding him in the arm.
Rittenhouse is also facing a lawsuit by one of the men shot on that night. A federal judge ruled that the lawsuit by the family of Anthony Huber could go to trial. Huber, 26, struck Rittenhouse with his skateboard before Rittenhouse shot and killed him.
Here is the complaint: Grosskreutz v. Rittenhouse
Here is Grosskreutz’s earlier testimony:
https://jonathanturley.org/2023/02/25/rittenhouse-sued-by-surviver-from-2020-kenosha-shooting/
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Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense announces new nonprofit to advocate for people targeted by ‘cancel culture’
By Michael Lee, Fox News
August 8, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/kyle-rittenhouses-team-forms-group-to-fight-for-everyday-people-targeted-by-cancel-culture/
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He'll have millions before he graduates so obviously he would not be representing himself.
Considering his background he could go on to represent those who were in a similar situation.
^^^^^^^^
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Grosskreutz almost has as many arrests as Hankins.
Scumbag.
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Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense announces new nonprofit to advocate for people targeted by ‘cancel culture’
By Michael Lee, Fox News
August 8, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/kyle-rittenhouses-team-forms-group-to-fight-for-everyday-people-targeted-by-cancel-culture/
Good move.
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He has my support.
Cancel culture is twin with the late soviet regime (the worst of comunism) where the ones who did not obey it, got destroyed, and their family. Just like Putin still does.
Cancel culture is Putin.
Even in Democratic Europe, those who don't comply with the madness are labeled "against the european project".
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He has my support.
Cancel culture is twin with the late soviet regime (the worst of comunism) where the ones who did not obey it, got destroyed, and their family. Just like Putin still does.
Cancel culture is Putin.
Even in Democratic Europe, those who don't comply with the madness are labeled "against the european project".
So, both totalitarianism and democracies employ cancel culture.
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Not only was the shooting self defense, he rid the world of a child rapist.
Kyle Rittenhouse sued by estate of the convicted child molester he blew away in self-defense
JOSEPH MACKINNON August 29, 2023
https://www.theblaze.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-sued-by-estate-of-the-child-molester-he-blew-away-in-self-defense
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Not only was the shooting self defense, he rid the world of a child rapist.
Kyle Rittenhouse sued by estate of the convicted child molester he blew away in self-defense
JOSEPH MACKINNON August 29, 2023
https://www.theblaze.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-sued-by-estate-of-the-child-molester-he-blew-away-in-self-defense
Estate? Whatever this piece of shit had should have gone to the child victims. Good riddance.
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Estate? Whatever this piece of shit had should have gone to the child victims. Good riddance.
Agree.
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Not only was the shooting self defense, he rid the world of a child rapist.
Kyle Rittenhouse sued by estate of the convicted child molester he blew away in self-defense
JOSEPH MACKINNON August 29, 2023
https://www.theblaze.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-sued-by-estate-of-the-child-molester-he-blew-away-in-self-defense
Its like i said before...he's going to have a ton of lawsuits and he's not gotten the ones who will sue for emptional distress from dodging bullets thst he shot into crowd.
In the civil trial, they'll likely argue that Kyle had no business being there, was not trained in security, did not carry non-lethel wespons erc. All of that can be brought up in a civil trial.
I think he's he's a murderer and i already knew he was ot going to be convicted because the people he shot were shitbags. He had no business being there and drove himself into another state for some action rather than actually helping....he's lucky he didnt get killed
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Its like i said before...he's going to have a ton of lawsuits and he's not gotten the ones who will sue for emptional distress from dodging bullets thst he shot into crowd.
In the civil trial, they'll likely argue that Kyle had no business being there, was not trained in security, did not carry non-lethel wespons erc. All of that can be brought up in a civil trial.
I think he's he's a murderer and i already knew he was ot going to be convicted because the people he shot were shitbags. He had no business being there and drove himself into another state for some action rather than actually helping....he's lucky he didnt get killed
You still are utterly delusional and clueless on this.
Those liberal idiots FAFO!
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Its like i said before...he's going to have a ton of lawsuits and he's not gotten the ones who will sue for emptional distress from dodging bullets thst he shot into crowd.
In the civil trial, they'll likely argue that Kyle had no business being there, was not trained in security, did not carry non-lethel wespons erc. All of that can be brought up in a civil trial.
I think he's he's a murderer and i already knew he was ot going to be convicted because the people he shot were shitbags. He had no business being there and drove himself into another state for some action rather than actually helping....he's lucky he didnt get killed
Vince, you didn’t keep up with this one ioda did you? You were in law enforcement. Do you understand the laws of each state, do you understand he had the right to protect himself? It was shown during the trial he was lawfully there. His only mistake was that he didn’t take out the guy that had his arm blown off
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Vince, you didn’t keep up with this one ioda did you? You were in law enforcement. Do you understand the laws of each state, do you understand he had the right to protect himself? It was shown during the trial he was lawfully there. His only mistake was that he didn’t take out the guy that had his arm blown off
My issue has nothing to do with defending himself but the fact that he had no business being there. If he had proper security training, he would not have been stupid enough to go out directly into the crowd. He was also poorly equipped with only an AR-15 and no riot control equipment.
When I was in law enforcement, I was properly trained and properly equipped. This guy just run into a mob with nothing but an AR-15. Just stupid
Reminds me of this guy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/15/us-man-quest-kill-bin-laden-pakistan
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Its like i said before...he's going to have a ton of lawsuits and he's not gotten the ones who will sue for emptional distress from dodging bullets thst he shot into crowd.
In the civil trial, they'll likely argue that Kyle had no business being there, was not trained in security, did not carry non-lethel wespons erc. All of that can be brought up in a civil trial.
I think he's he's a murderer and i already knew he was ot going to be convicted because the people he shot were shitbags. He had no business being there and drove himself into another state for some action rather than actually helping....he's lucky he didnt get killed
BS. Just like your other predictions, you were wrong. Again.
From the other Rittenhouse thread:
No the charges are proper...he was definitely reckless and stupid. He had better enjoy freedom because he's going to do some decades if not life in prison
Makes no difference...he's getting convicted
This kid broke down hard on the stand trying to describe the attack. Sad
Sad for the families whos kids got killed. Not sure if it was wise but he's got some balls
Yea i know...was actung tough at that bar and flashing white power signs. Now reality is sinking in that he better hook up with the Ary Nation to avoid getting that soft white ass from being raped by some souls
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BS. Just like your other predictions, you were wrong. Again.
From the other Rittenhouse thread:
Forgot this one but once the judge started chastizing the prosecutor, I knew that it was ball game. What I was referring to was the reckless endangerment and illegal posession of a weapon along with bringing it over state lines. He should have been in jail
Oh relax, i doubt that he'll be convicted...wont be unanimous
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BS. Just like your other predictions, you were wrong. Again.
From the other Rittenhouse thread:
Dr. Goodrum, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, also said that Jussie Smollet was 100% getting off! :D :D
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Forgot this one but once the judge started chastizing the prosecutor, I knew that it was ball game. What I was referring to was the reckless endangerment and illegal posession of a weapon along with bringing it over state lines. He should have been in jail
Thought the "state lines" stuff was debunked instantly.
Authorities determined the AR-15 rifle that was used during the shootings was “purchased, stored, and used in Wisconsin," never crossing the border into the state of Illinois. The announcement backs up statements from Rittenhouse's attorney, who said the gun belonged to an unidentified friend in Wisconsin.
“Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the state of Wisconsin,” the attorney, L. Lin Wood, said.
As for having no business being there, people should examine the "why" he was there instead. It was a kid who worshipped law enforement, and was answering the pleas of small business owners who knew their livelihoods were in trouble due to the was LE permitted the BLM riots to occur. He should have never felt the need to be there.
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Thought the "state lines" stuff was debunked instantly.
As for having no business being there, people should examine the "why" he was there instead. It was a kid who worshipped law enforement, and was answering the pleas of small business owners who knew their livelihoods were in trouble due to the was LE permitted the BLM riots to occur. He should have never felt the need to be there.
A lot of kids say that when they grow up, they want to be a police officer or fireman. That doesnt mean we let them go be one without actually growing up and not getting any training.
Kyle's motivation was to mix it up with BLM and Antifa...not helping businesses. Its all over his social media and was used as evidence in the trial. HE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE AND HE WAS THERE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. HE HAD NO TRAINING, NO PROPER EQUIPMENT, AND NO BRAINS. He waa lucky he didnt get killed and he's lucky he didnt go to prison
Fact is that curfew was called and that crowd, BLM..ANTIFA..Proud Boys..Oath Keepers etc should have disbanded and went home. None of those people should have been on the streets. People are so stupid because there's only trouble when you dont obey the law.
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My issue has nothing to do with defending himself but the fact that he had no business being there. If he had proper security training, he would not have been stupid enough to go out directly into the crowd. He was also poorly equipped with only an AR-15 and no riot control equipment.
When I was in law enforcement, I was properly trained and properly equipped. This guy just run into a mob with nothing but an AR-15. Just stupid
Reminds me of this guy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/15/us-man-quest-kill-bin-laden-pakistan
Everyone has a business being where they want to in public, not up to you of anyone to decide.
The BLM thugs and looters also had no right being there then. (In a perfect world)..
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Everyone has a business being where they want to in public, not up to you of anyone to decide.
The BLM thugs and looters also had no right being there then. (In a perfect world)..
I can go tell someone not to jump off a bridge and they may still do it. Of course he can do what he wants and ignore common sense which is what he did.
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A lot of kids say that when they grow up, they want to be a police officer or fireman. That doesnt mean we let them go be one without actually growing up and not getting any training.
Kyle's motivation was to mix it up with BLM and Antifa...not helping businesses. Its all over his social media and was used as evidence in the trial. HE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE AND HE WAS THERE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. HE HAD NO TRAINING, NO PROPER EQUIPMENT, AND NO BRAINS. He waa lucky he didnt get killed and he's lucky he didnt go to prison
Fact is that curfew was called and that crowd, BLM..ANTIFA..Proud Boys..Oath Keepers etc should have disbanded and went home. None of those people should have been on the streets. People are so stupid because there's only trouble when you dont obey the law.
So you agree that you were incorrect with the "state lines" part?
He IS lucky he didn't get killed. There were instigators there purposely stirring up shit (backpack girl, etc), and there were people there looking for fights.
Rittenhouse was found innocent because he had every right to be there and acted in self defense.
SHOULD he have done it? I would never suggest anyone like Rittenhouse do what Rittenhouse did. But I would say no seventeen year old should ever feel they have to be in that situation either.
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Thought the "state lines" stuff was debunked instantly.
As for having no business being there, people should examine the "why" he was there instead. It was a kid who worshipped law enforement, and was answering the pleas of small business owners who knew their livelihoods were in trouble due to the was LE permitted the BLM riots to occur. He should have never felt the need to be there.
It was during trial
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I can go tell someone not to jump off a bridge and they may still do it. Of course he can do what he wants and ignore common sense which is what he did.
True... true...
Common sense went out the windows many years ago... Most never had it and never will...
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A lot of kids say that when they grow up, they want to be a police officer or fireman. That doesnt mean we let them go be one without actually growing up and not getting any training.
Kyle's motivation was to mix it up with BLM and Antifa...not helping businesses. Its all over his social media and was used as evidence in the trial. HE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE AND HE WAS THERE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. HE HAD NO TRAINING, NO PROPER EQUIPMENT, AND NO BRAINS. He waa lucky he didnt get killed and he's lucky he didnt go to prison
Fact is that curfew was called and that crowd, BLM..ANTIFA..Proud Boys..Oath Keepers etc should have disbanded and went home. None of those people should have been on the streets. People are so stupid because there's only trouble when you dont obey the law.
You didn't watch the trial.
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You didn't watch the trial.
I don't need to sit through a child. You don't go out and fight fires without training. You don't flip burgers from a fast food restaurant without knowing how to cook them
Did Kyle Rittenhouse Have Any Training - NO!
Was He Properly Equipped - NO!
Did He Live In The State - NO!
Did he almost get killed due to lack of training - Yes
If he wants to go do security work for a business, that's fine...just get the training. You can at least agree with me on that
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I don't need to sit through a child. You don't go out and fight fires without training. You don't flip burgers from a fast food restaurant without knowing how to cook them
Did Kyle Rittenhouse Have Any Training - NO!
Was He Properly Equipped - NO!
Did He Live In The State - NO!
Did he almost get killed due to lack of training - Yes
If he wants to go do security work for a business, that's fine...just get the training. You can at least agree with me on that
If you didn't watch the trial then you don't really know about the evidence and testimony at trial. It doesn't support much of what you are saying.
I don't necessarily agree that he didn't have any training. He knew how to handle a firearm. He used his weapon surgically. He didn't just randomly start firing at people. If he had, he could have killed about 30 people. Instead, he only shot at the people who were attacking him.
Was he properly equipped? I'd say given the outcome, he had exactly what he needed to defend himself.
He actually has relatives who live in Kenosha and was there quite a bit. That's the kind of detail you miss if you don't watch the trial and rely on the media.
He was almost killed because some dirtbag criminals tried to kill him. He did nothing to provoke them.
If he was my son, I would have never let him go participate in that mess. But I'm not going to blame the victim for trying to help his community. You should be pointing your guns at the governor for failing to call in the National Guard to prevent those terrorists from burning down the city.
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I don't need to sit through a child. You don't go out and fight fires without training. You don't flip burgers from a fast food restaurant without knowing how to cook them
Did Kyle Rittenhouse Have Any Training - NO!
Was He Properly Equipped - NO!
Did He Live In The State - NO!
Did he almost get killed due to lack of training - Yes
If he wants to go do security work for a business, that's fine...just get the training. You can at least agree with me on that
That is why you are being silly in this thread. The trial showed he did nothing wrong and the other dirtbags like rosenbaum etc were in the wrong.
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If you didn't watch the trial then you don't really know about the evidence and testimony at trial. It doesn't support much of what you are saying.
I don't necessarily agree that he didn't have any training. He knew how to handle a firearm. He used his weapon surgically. He didn't just randomly start firing at people. If he had, he could have killed about 30 people. Instead, he only shot at the people who were attacking him.
Was he properly equipped? I'd say given the outcome, he had exactly what he needed to defend himself.
He actually has relatives who live in Kenosha and was there quite a bit. That's the kind of detail you miss if you don't watch the trial and rely on the media.
He was almost killed because some dirtbag criminals tried to kill him. He did nothing to provoke them.
If he was my son, I would have never let him go participate in that mess. But I'm not going to blame the victim for trying to help his community. You should be pointing your guns at the governor for failing to call in the National Guard to prevent those terrorists from burning down the city.
How do you know he didn't do anything to provoke them?? But he got rid of some real low-lifes so I'll give him some credit for that. But he was ill equipped and not trained for security work. And I didn't watch the full trial but I have a clear understanding of this
Hopefully he moves on and doesn't pull this stunt again because he came close to getting killed because of his preparation and lack of training. Going across state lines to battle with rioters and no I don't believe for one minute his intent was to do security. I think he wanted to mix it up with BLM and Antifa like most kids because he thought it would be cool, that it would make him look like a bad ass on social media. I don't know what the hell is wrong with this youth these days to be honest. I agree with you that if he was my kid I would not have let him go out there
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How do you know he didn't do anything to provoke them?? But he got rid of some real low-lifes so I'll give him some credit for that. But he was ill equipped and not trained for security work. And I didn't watch the full trial but I have a clear understanding of this
Hopefully he moves on and doesn't pull this stunt again because he came close to getting killed because of his preparation and lack of training. Going across state lines to battle with rioters and no I don't believe for one minute his intent was to do security. I think he wanted to mix it up with BLM and Antifa like most kids because he thought it would be cool, that it would make him look like a bad ass on social media. I don't know what the hell is wrong with this youth these days to be honest. I agree with you that if he was my kid I would not have let him go out there
If you watch videos taken, the ones who attacked him were there trying to cause trouble. They were shown instigating earlier in the night in other spots - they were there looking for trouble.
In addition, you had the hoodie guy and the backpack girl roaming, seen in different spots, and the hoodie guy may have fired the first shots that instigated the whole event.
You keep focusing on telling us his mindset and intent, which is impossible to prove. But when you look at the facts of the trial, the video breakdowns of the night, etc, you'd see you're missing the mark on this one.
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If you watch videos taken, the ones who attacked him were there trying to cause trouble. They were shown instigating earlier in the night in other spots - they were there looking for trouble.
In addition, you had the hoodie guy and the backpack girl roaming, seen in different spots, and the hoodie guy may have fired the first shots that instigated the whole event.
You keep focusing on telling us his mindset and intent, which is impossible to prove. But when you look at the facts of the trial, the video breakdowns of the night, etc, you'd see you're missing the mark on this one.
We haven't seen any video with the first person he killed and that's what I like to see. The only video I've seen is this one
The only video out is this one where he's running away from the first person he shot and the people trying to catch up with him to stop which those are the most stupidest people out there trying to chase down a person with an AR-15. You can hear in the background why he's beening chased which someone commented that he shot someone. I would like to see the video of the first people he killed and what led up to it.
That video is what may get him in a civil trial because there is a much less burden of proof. They will argue that the crowd was trying to stop an active shooter rather than just attacking him which honestly that's what they were doing....stopping an active shooter Those crowd is going to sue him for emotional distress, that's what all of these types of people do. However, Kyle shouldn't have been there and neither should have any of the protesters as the protest was declared illegal and everyone was told to go home and clear the streets. They are already coming after him which is why he needs to keep a low profile.
Again, this is why Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot. I bet he wishes that he just stayed at home...and he should have
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We haven't seen any video with the first person he killed and that's what I like to see. The only video I've seen is this one
The only video out is this one where he's running away from the first person he shot and the people trying to catch up with him to stop which those are the most stupidest people out there trying to chase down a person with an AR-15. You can hear in the background why he's beening chased which someone commented that he shot someone. I would like to see the video of the first people he killed and what led up to it.
That video is what may get him in a civil trial because there is a much less burden of proof. They will argue that the crowd was trying to stop an active shooter rather than just attacking him which honestly that's what they were doing....stopping an active shooter Those crowd is going to sue him for emotional distress, that's what all of these types of people do. However, Kyle shouldn't have been there and neither should have any of the protesters as the protest was declared illegal and everyone was told to go home and clear the streets. They are already coming after him which is why he needs to keep a low profile.
Again, this is why Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot. I bet he wishes that he just stayed at home...and he should have
There's a 20 page message board thread that has tons of pics and videos complited from private phones and stuff. Somebody pieced the whole night together very well. I've read it twice.......but now it seems to be hard to find (i will try on the non google searches). It was still pics and videos that tracked the guys who got shot, and tracked two suspicious people who were seen moving from spot to spot, and then one appears to fire a gun into the air, which is believed to have sparked it. The girl with the backpack was also spotted at other events, doing similar shit.
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Coach , i already seen it and i acknowledge that he reached for his gun and tried to take it away along with the guy being a worthless dirtbag. What i would like to see or at least know what made this guy chase after him to begin with. What was said between each other.
But we'll never know thst. You guys can continue to defend Kyle all you want but im not defending anyone's actions. Kyle had no business being there as he was not trained and poorly equipped. The mob was not suppose to be out on the streets because they declared it an illegal protest and everyone was suppose to go home. But they continued to protest and then escalated it by rioting and destroying property.
Again, i dont get these kids nowadays...they are just completely insane
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Libtards still trying to say, "Yeah, well...he was still wrong!!" *sniff*
Dirtbags were removed from circulation.
A cuck prosecutor was completely humiliated.
Media meltdowns.
Families of the dead dirtbags making asses of themselves on a regular basis.
Kyle represents everything great about this nation. Those critical of him - without exception - can phucking go die of the AIDS.
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Libtards still trying to say, "Yeah, well...he was still wrong!!" *sniff*
Dirtbags were removed from circulation.
A cuck prosecutor was completely humiliated.
Media meltdowns.
Families of the dead dirtbags making asses of themselves on a regular basis.
Kyle represents everything great about this nation. Those critical of him - without exception - can phucking go die of the AIDS.
Have you considered that in some situations more than one person can be wrong. Kyle was not found guilty of the charges against him, but he was still in the wrong as were a lot of other folks.
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Have you considered that in some situations more than one person can be wrong. Kyle was not found guilty of the charges against him, but he was still in the wrong as were a lot of other folks.
Have you considered fucking off you soggy old queen
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Have you considered fucking off you soggy old queen
Nope.
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How do you know he didn't do anything to provoke them?? But he got rid of some real low-lifes so I'll give him some credit for that. But he was ill equipped and not trained for security work. And I didn't watch the full trial but I have a clear understanding of this
Hopefully he moves on and doesn't pull this stunt again because he came close to getting killed because of his preparation and lack of training. Going across state lines to battle with rioters and no I don't believe for one minute his intent was to do security. I think he wanted to mix it up with BLM and Antifa like most kids because he thought it would be cool, that it would make him look like a bad ass on social media. I don't know what the hell is wrong with this youth these days to be honest. I agree with you that if he was my kid I would not have let him go out there
How do I know he did nothing to provoke them? Because I watched the trial. That's what the evidence showed. His shootings were self defense and it wasn't close.
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How do I know he did nothing to provoke them? Because I watched the trial. That's what the evidence showed. His shootings were self defense and it wasn't close.
Yes they are self defense...but he put himself in that position . He isnt innocent in this and is still a moron
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Yes they are self defense...but he put himself in that position . He isnt innocent in this and is still a moron
Again - you did not watch the trial testimony. Rittenhouse took out the garbage. Rosenbaum was a pedo, the others were criminals, etc.
Why are you still carrying water for these leftist creeps?
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Again - you did not watch the trial testimony. Rittenhouse took out the garbage. Rosenbaum was a pedo, the others were criminals, etc.
Why are you still carrying water for these leftist creeps?
Nobody is carrying anything. I'm simply stating the obvious. He was ill equipped and had no training and had no business being there. He's lucky he didn't get killed.
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Nobody is carrying anything. I'm simply stating the obvious. He was ill equipped and had no training and had no business being there. He's lucky he didn't get killed.
With your law enforcement and military training and experience, how would you have reacted in this situation?
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Nobody is carrying anything. I'm simply stating the obvious. He was ill equipped and had no training and had no business being there. He's lucky he didn't get killed.
And neither did the other thugs there to commit crimes.
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Nobody is carrying anything. I'm simply stating the obvious. He was ill equipped and had no training and had no business being there. He's lucky he didn't get killed.
None of those people had any business being there. :)
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A US Hero!!!
Killed an attacking Pedo, blew anothers hand clean off!!
EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reminds me of Clifton