Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
TL;DL? (too long, didn't listen)
Can anyone type out the protocol, assuming he graced us with it?
Milos "pros use moderate doses" Sarcev
What is it that ages the face so much?
Steroids, Tren in particular
THE PERPETUAL PROTOCOLS OF PEACE
Would test alone also have a negative ageing effect on the face?
FNG morons - abusing roids why? Exactly why again? "Protocols?" LMFAO. What stupid shit. For a trophy. Think about it. A plastic trophy. Risk your entire life at 20-30 yo for a plastic trophy.
Spend tends of thousands of dollars on roids for what - a plastic trophy.
One word.................... INSANITY
Milos did nothing wrong. This kid should be aware that if you want to be a successful pro bodybuilder, then death is a very likely outcome! :D
Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
(http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/73385931_552191452194029_6386114977104095979_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=105&bc=1571337657&oh=c567baa2b41a7f9cb3e5275f50402ac5&oe=5E56050C&ig_cache_key=MjE1MjIzOTM2OTM5MDY0NzM2Ng%3D%3D.2)
I will translate later the exact script for the Thunder Dome crew. ( I apologize for the ugly language used)
(The short version is: Bullshit story by a bunch of bullschit idiots- It includes a kraut and a yugo! what can go wrong ::))
Offengsicht!
Das glaubst ja selber nicht, das is eine scheiß Münchhausen Geschichte.
Milos hat noch nie und wird auch niemals was falsch machen!
Nie im leben kann das passieren, wenn man ein bisserl slin schießt. Jeder weiß wie gesund Insulin ist.
Ich sage der hat einfach nicht genug genommen und nicht gnug gfressen.
Die jungen wixer von heute zeigen einfach keine Dankbarkeit,gegenüber legenden...Mehr Stoff muss a
nehmen des Weichei!
How dare you?
Up the dose you fucking pussy!
This is what a real champion looks like....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=106434.0;attach=118013)
(https://bundles.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/ZdjeciaSFD3_large/980eb1c294cb4fec8815f7d63c0c4f99.jpg)
What happened to him?
Synthol?
I know back in the day he had heart trouble from it or so I read
What is it that ages the face so much?Sugar.
What happened to him?
Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
(http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/73385931_552191452194029_6386114977104095979_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=105&bc=1571337657&oh=c567baa2b41a7f9cb3e5275f50402ac5&oe=5E56050C&ig_cache_key=MjE1MjIzOTM2OTM5MDY0NzM2Ng%3D%3D.2)
I've been training a long time. Seen so many throw away their chance at a career, house and a family chasing the syringe life style. The sport is filled with insecure guys who can't survive without having people praise them for being such a "man" with their temporary steroid muscles.
Some one in finnish BB-forum had interesting list:
Flex Wheeler = Kidneys & amputated leg
Luke Wood = Dead
Mustafa Mohammed = Kidneys
Sonny Schmidt = Dead
Greg Kovach = Deformed ape
Ed van Amsterdam = Dead
Ernie Taylor = Synthol clown
King Kamali = Just clown, deformed ape
Kris Dim = Hear attac
Marius Dohne = Kidneys
What is the common factor with these guys? They did use Milos as a coach. He is claiming that he has been coaching also guys like Ruhl, who looks quite healthy but was able to retire alive, and many others. Dennis Wolf isn't only who has fired him, there was at least half of dozen of them. Milos has been busy little snake oil salesman.. ;D
Some one in finnish BB-forum had interesting list:
Flex Wheeler = Kidneys & amputated leg
Luke Wood = Dead
Mustafa Mohammed = Kidneys
Sonny Schmidt = Dead
Greg Kovach = Deformed ape
Ed van Amsterdam = Dead
Ernie Taylor = Synthol clown
King Kamali = Just clown, deformed ape
Kris Dim = Hear attac
Marius Dohne = Kidneys
What is the common factor with these guys? They did use Milos as a coach. He is claiming that he has been coaching also guys like Ruhl, who looks quite healthy but was able to retire alive, and many others. Dennis Wolf isn't only who has fired him, there was at least half of dozen of them. Milos has been busy little snake oil salesman.. ;D
Yet in that other thread Milos was saying the pros keep it under two grams a week..... ::)
Vielleicht kann er ja ein Protokoll für die Merkel basteln...
Greg Kovacs died
Whoever would take this seriously also believes in Santa...
I will cross the line and say little more than I should - but most of the SMART PROS...and there ARE MANY take:
500 - 1000 mg of TEST/week
+
250 - 1000mg of OTHER ANABOLICS along with it....with antiestrogen of choice.
Not all take GH and INSULIN...and if they do it is 2-6 IU of GH/day + 5-40 IU of insulin/day
Milos is full of shit! He’s from Yugoslavia, enough said. Never trust themYou are probably right. I've dealt with 2 people in the past from the former Yugoslavia on Ebay and both tried to rip me off.
Some one in finnish BB-forum had interesting list:
Flex Wheeler = Kidneys & amputated leg
Luke Wood = Dead
Mustafa Mohammed = Kidneys
Sonny Schmidt = Dead
Greg Kovach = Deformed ape
Ed van Amsterdam = Dead
Ernie Taylor = Synthol clown
King Kamali = Just clown, deformed ape
Kris Dim = Hear attac
Marius Dohne = Kidneys
What is the common factor with these guys? They did use Milos as a coach. He is claiming that he has been coaching also guys like Ruhl, who looks quite healthy but was able to retire alive, and many others. Dennis Wolf isn't only who has fired him, there was at least half of dozen of them. Milos has been busy little snake oil salesman.. ;D
Guys i can back Milos 100% with this post!!! the astronomical amounts of steroids, gh, insulin etc that the general public think alot of the pro's take is just ridiculous!!!!! I can honestly say having helped alot of amateurs myself prepare for shows is the first thing i do is cut there cycles in half and than maybe half again!!! they have this inscane belief that taking this ridiculous amounts will make this a professional bodbuilder more faster and than get on the Olympia stage!!! achieving a pro card is one thing but competing in the Olympia is the highest level a pro can obtain! but having said does this mean the very top guys in the sport are abusing??? NO WAY!!!! look at the very elite, Jay, Ronnie, Melvin, Dexter, Dennis, Victor, Gustavo etc......these guys have been around in the elite level for almost 10 years!!! WHY??? not because they abuse but like Milos said because they are smart!!!! the guys who come in like a flash and exit just as fast as the guys more likely taking the most risk!
Lee Priest once said "There would be guys in a Mr Olympia audience who have never ever competed taking more gear than the the actual Mr Olympia competitors on stage"!!! nothing could be further from the truth!
And this idiot is doing well these days.....
You are probably right. I've dealt with 2 people in the past from the former Yugoslavia on Ebay and both tried to rip me off.
Hasn't Nasshole "worked" with Milos as well?
It’s in their blood, anyone that believes milos in anything is either naive or an idiot, the guy has a long list of scandalous activity’s, questionable tactics and character, why was he forced to leave the country again? As a felon? Hmmmm
He's from Serbia !. Didn't he marry Serbian business woman in Spain ?.
Who can forget Nasser's story about banging Milamar (before Misko) !.
It’s in their blood, anyone that believes milos in anything is either naive or an idiot, the guy has a long list of scandalous activity’s, questionable tactics and character, why was he forced to leave the country again? As a felon? Hmmmm
He's from Serbia !. Didn't he marry Serbian business woman in Spain ?.That was an epic getbig feud.
Who can forget Nasser's story about banging Milamar (before Misko) !.
What happened to him?
Yet in that other thread Milos was saying the pros keep it under two grams a week..... ::)
This is milos protocol ::) only coach believes him
he still logs in?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=1931
I give credit to Milos he had a great aesthetic build and is still jacked to this day. But anyone that post photos of themselves on a daily basis from 20 years ago, especially being in his 50s has to have some serious narcissistic issues.
Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
(http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/73385931_552191452194029_6386114977104095979_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=105&bc=1571337657&oh=c567baa2b41a7f9cb3e5275f50402ac5&oe=5E56050C&ig_cache_key=MjE1MjIzOTM2OTM5MDY0NzM2Ng%3D%3D.2)
What is it that ages the face so much?
I give credit to Milos he had a great aesthetic build and is still jacked to this day. But anyone that post photos of themselves on a daily basis from 20 years ago, especially being in his 50s has to have some serious narcissistic issues.
How is Jari Mentula health, he was Miskos student ;)
Hasn't Nasshole "worked" with Milos as well?
It's surprising milos looks so good and well preserved at his age, maybe he didn't prescribe such extreme protocols for himself ???
Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
(http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/73385931_552191452194029_6386114977104095979_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=105&bc=1571337657&oh=c567baa2b41a7f9cb3e5275f50402ac5&oe=5E56050C&ig_cache_key=MjE1MjIzOTM2OTM5MDY0NzM2Ng%3D%3D.2)
milos is like the josef mengele of bodybuilding..as he puts those people with experiments with various compounds
milos is like the josef mengele of bodybuilding..as he puts those people with experiments with various compounds
looks 40 years old . . .
FNG morons - abusing roids why? Exactly why again? "Protocols?" LMFAO. What stupid shit. For a trophy. Think about it. A plastic trophy. Risk your entire life at 20-30 yo for a plastic trophy.
Spend tends of thousands of dollars on roids for what - a plastic trophy.
You are probably right. I've dealt with 2 people in the past from the former Yugoslavia on Ebay and both tried to rip me off.
Would love to see all these “gurus” go clean for 5-6 years and see where they are after. Oh wait - we know already.Try 1 year.
Who on earth possibly listens to these idiots any more unless mentally ill and stupid ? Spend tens of thousands on drugs for a temporary fake look and risk death for a plastic trophy . Makes tons of sense to me. Uh huh.
As i said this in another thread. Serbs are very inclined to criminal/shady stuff. They are attracted to money/shinny stuff like flies to shit and will stab people in the back to acquire desired wealth and show it off. We have a lot of them living in out country and nobody likes them. If there’s a bigger criminal act committed it’s a 75% chance that the culprits are Serbs or Bosnians.Are you in Germany?
I agree with you that its become a horrible unhealthy sport but why do you and others keep telling this lie that they do all this to themselves just for a plastic trophy? You really believe that?
A lot of people now, not just winning pro bbers, make a great living off of the bbing and the physique industry. More than ever before and it just keeps growing for those who know how to market themselves. I wish I saved the link on the breakdown of Kali Muscle's income. Does he even compete? When was the last time Roelly won anything?
For some it beats working for a living punching a clock and being in the daily rat race for 40 years.
And they get a bit more than a plastic trophy.
Are you in Germany?
Getbig Time Machine -
Milos gets cooked ( with pictures :o ) - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=106434.0
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Milos's Arrest -
News breaks - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=342656.0
Milos's side - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=348336.0
Nutty Milos - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=361278.0
Nasser Narks On Milos ( scroll down ) - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=470449.0
Milos's fugativing in London with new wife - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=544391.0
Milos's letters from prison - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=627850.0
And just how long does that "career" last? Think about it. If you are an NFL or MLB or NHL - I can see that - like Robbie Cano for example. Or A-Rod.
But some idiot on instagram? LMFAO. What is the run of most of these people? two three four years maybe? In BB - honestly how many people really make a decent living off of it other than the top few guys?
Its like people choosing organized crime as a profession. Other than the mob boss, most of the "mobsters" are broke and near welfare.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/47015410_1096161200565386_9215156610526085120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=hjyMtJOyCi4AQln68JMdwEoiWWryirCjmMy1tcVGvzQde1JlR9K2uATeA&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=11b52c8950a1fee4c90adb648feac622&oe=5EB0A8F9)
:-\ >:(
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/72546801_415250452723989_1559362799780708709_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&bc=1571337657&oh=5223a1e1eeaa6018fa623306e13bf6a1&oe=5E480DFF&ig_cache_key=MjE2NjgyMjI5MjU3MTY1NDM5OA%3D%3D.2)
Organize crime? What laws are being broken? Who is being murdered? How do you know that mobsters all end up broke? How do you know how long Instagram bbers last? You said it is all for a plastic trophy. You're wrong. Dexter hadn't won a show in years and is hardly on welfare.
There are more people than ever making money off of bbing/physique/weight lifting and do so by juicing hard. Larry Wheels still in his twenties came out of nowhere and seems to be making a decent living.
LOL - keep believing that. Dexter? He is a Mr. Olympia and top tier BB for F sake. Thats probably the worst example to use.
Steroids are illegal in USA BTW
Yes - most organized crime people are bums - most are not bosses. The tiny few at the top make money and almost all the rest would make more at a regular 9-5. Look it up.
What happened to him?It was a pyro-technics mishap burn of some sort, I forget the whole story and such, sorry.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/47015410_1096161200565386_9215156610526085120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=hjyMtJOyCi4AQln68JMdwEoiWWryirCjmMy1tcVGvzQde1JlR9K2uATeA&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=11b52c8950a1fee4c90adb648feac622&oe=5EB0A8F9)
:-\ >:(
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/72546801_415250452723989_1559362799780708709_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&bc=1571337657&oh=5223a1e1eeaa6018fa623306e13bf6a1&oe=5E480DFF&ig_cache_key=MjE2NjgyMjI5MjU3MTY1NDM5OA%3D%3D.2)
another german milosvictimathlet :D
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/47015410_1096161200565386_9215156610526085120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=hjyMtJOyCi4AQln68JMdwEoiWWryirCjmMy1tcVGvzQde1JlR9K2uATeA&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=11b52c8950a1fee4c90adb648feac622&oe=5EB0A8F9)
:-\ >:(
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/72546801_415250452723989_1559362799780708709_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&bc=1571337657&oh=5223a1e1eeaa6018fa623306e13bf6a1&oe=5E480DFF&ig_cache_key=MjE2NjgyMjI5MjU3MTY1NDM5OA%3D%3D.2)
milos wife in the 2014 london pics was smoking.
BSers can always snag a dumb chick, and the length of the relationship normally depends on when the chick's IQ allows her to realise he's full of shit.
WOW!!! What is going on here? I dont know where to begin. Let's start with that massive, head.:o Nazi experiments on humans was real. They wanted to breed Nazi super soldiers.
(https://bundles.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/ZdjeciaSFD3_large/980eb1c294cb4fec8815f7d63c0c4f99.jpg)
Lol! Steroids? Hypocrite. You know shit about organize crime. "Look it up?" You made the claim. You look it up and prove it. Again, you said "all for a plastic trophy". Dexter is a perfect example. Hasn't won a show in years. Won the O over a decade ago. He's won many plastic trophies though and winning those has become very lucrative.
And I will keep believing facts.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/47015410_1096161200565386_9215156610526085120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=hjyMtJOyCi4AQln68JMdwEoiWWryirCjmMy1tcVGvzQde1JlR9K2uATeA&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=11b52c8950a1fee4c90adb648feac622&oe=5EB0A8F9)
:-\ >:(
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/72546801_415250452723989_1559362799780708709_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&bc=1571337657&oh=5223a1e1eeaa6018fa623306e13bf6a1&oe=5E480DFF&ig_cache_key=MjE2NjgyMjI5MjU3MTY1NDM5OA%3D%3D.2)
Good,natural looking,everyday physique.......
Slovenia, the Balkan plague is still running strong here.Is daily life better now or when it was part of Yugoslavia?
Doing the Lord's work - thank you, these are fantastic.
hahahahaha I remember when he introduced her to rxmuscle or MD or whatever in an Interview at an Expo couple of years ago and the interviewer asked where they've met and Milos in all of his modesty told him: "She was a huge fan of mine" (DCM = Delusional Clown Milos) :DShe looks like a prostitute.
(http://beastmotivation.com/file/2013/11/Toney-Freeman-Milos-Sarcev.jpg)
Saying all yugos or serbs are bad is like saying all republicans are trump-loving, anti-science, dirty, rotten, inbred hillbillies. Maybe majority but not all.Seems you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. The only cure is death. Please kill yourself.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/47015410_1096161200565386_9215156610526085120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=hjyMtJOyCi4AQln68JMdwEoiWWryirCjmMy1tcVGvzQde1JlR9K2uATeA&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=11b52c8950a1fee4c90adb648feac622&oe=5EB0A8F9)
:-\ >:(
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/72546801_415250452723989_1559362799780708709_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&bc=1571337657&oh=5223a1e1eeaa6018fa623306e13bf6a1&oe=5E480DFF&ig_cache_key=MjE2NjgyMjI5MjU3MTY1NDM5OA%3D%3D.2)
:o Nazi experiments on humans was real. The wanted to bread Nazi super soldiers.
Looks like he was put together by Dr. Mengele himself.
Nicely flowing lines...
(http://www.team-andro.com/gallery/albums/userpics/304558/normal_dennis_james_classic_12.JPG?605c55d54469a79063d56e1d644543a2)
When your build is ... this ... time to NOT step into a battle thong.
He hired Milos....his problems will be solved soon
He hired Milos....his problems will be solved soon
How old is he?
It's surprising milos looks so good and well preserved at his age, maybe he didn't prescribe such extreme protocols for himself ???
milos is like the josef mengele of bodybuilding..as he puts those people with experiments with various compounds
One more from the archives, Milos announces a Pro Bodybuilding Weekly interview, and gets into a fight with Shawn Ray a few pages in -
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=80908.75
(https://i.ylilauta.org/02/afe67872.jpg)all of his "students" ends up with horrible pregnant midsections..
Still looking good, still juiced to the gills, still training like a mad, never competing again.. Concentrating making money in PT business and raising family ;D
Other than the top 10 BB - who do you think makes $$$ off of BB as a competitor?
all of his "students" ends up with horrible pregnant midsections..
his insulin protocols are horrible for any person with eyes
Anything more than 20IU’s kiss your lines goodbye
In your opinion what’s some of the most insulin and gh a competitor has taken?
Not sure about the insulin because it isn’t always needed. Most I talk to run between 4-6IU of GH. I run no more than 3
What are you talking about? Milo's was always well known to be one of the biggest, if not THE biggest user in the IFBB... even though he was never cost to being one of the biggest or freakiest bbers onstage, and he's always held one of the best midsections in the sport. (Nasser also had a great set of abs, despite heavy AAS, insulin, GH, & igf1 use along with heavy kcal & heavy carb intake.)
And this idiot is doing well these days.....
Guys i can back Milos 100% with this post!!! the astronomical amounts of steroids, gh, insulin etc that the general public think alot of the pro's take is just ridiculous!!!!! I can honestly say having helped alot of amateurs myself prepare for shows is the first thing i do is cut there cycles in half and than maybe half again!!! they have this inscane belief that taking this ridiculous amounts will make this a professional bodbuilder more faster and than get on the Olympia stage!!! achieving a pro card is one thing but competing in the Olympia is the highest level a pro can obtain! but having said does this mean the very top guys in the sport are abusing??? NO WAY!!!! look at the very elite, Jay, Ronnie, Melvin, Dexter, Dennis, Victor, Gustavo etc......these guys have been around in the elite level for almost 10 years!!! WHY??? not because they abuse but like Milos said because they are smart!!!! the guys who come in like a flash and exit just as fast as the guys more likely taking the most risk!
Lee Priest once said "There would be guys in a Mr Olympia audience who have never ever competed taking more gear than the the actual Mr Olympia competitors on stage"!!! nothing could be further from the truth!
I was on youtube and just stumble across a vid by Piana talking about when he competed in 1999 NPC. He spelled out his hormone use and said he was taking 20ius of GH a day. This was 20 years ago. I actually thought he looked pretty impressive in that show. They all looked pretty impressive. Palumbo was there and he already had that Palumboism thing going. I think with him he just had a naturally weird ab region.
Aloanu Meagher. Never heard of him? Of course you haven't. Just like you haven't heard of the countless bbers that have been able to market themselves into a nice living. He's a local bber here in Hawaii that's very popular and gets local endorsements, sponsorships, and does guest posing.
John Meadows has been competing for decades yet quit his lucrative position as a bank executive because he can make more money as a bodybuilder with his business as a prep coach, seminars, youtube vids -- all from bbing.
But your logic is flawed. You claim that they abuse their body's JUST for a plastic trophy. That's demonstrably wrong. It's like saying an MMA fighter endures such a brutal sport JUST for a fancy belt. It's what that trophy and belt represents. The opportunities it opens up. So you don't have to compete anymore to make a living in bbing. Look at Jason Huh, gave up competing because after his first win he was popular enough to parlay it into other opportunities so that he no longer has to compete. Mike O'Hearn never won anything but using drugs and bodybuilding got him to a level where he doesn't have to compete.
Yeah...Abuse your health by injecting a variety of dangerous drugs in order to develop a phony, temporary body, makes sense to me...Save the money and go to a therapist.
Yes, your position on steroids has been made agonizingly clear for years now. We get it. The argument here is the claim made that it is done just for a plastic trophy. Many have lived much more exciting and prosperous lives that was made possible to a large extent because of the use of hormones. Arnold and Stallone, still healthy and functional far more than most in their seventies are obvious examples.
What would Kai Green be doing if it wasn't for bbing? He travels the world and is juggling several lucrative projects.
For some, its worth it. They get far more than a plastic trophy. Everything in life is temporary.
I wonder when Kai will finally bite the bullet and come off everything. I think that he is getting close to 50.
Yes, your position on steroids has been made agonizingly clear for years now. We get it. The argument here is the claim made that it is done just for a plastic trophy. Many have lived much more exciting and prosperous lives that was made possible to a large extent because of the use of hormones. Arnold and Stallone, still healthy and functional far more than most in their seventies are obvious examples.
What would Kai Green be doing if it wasn't for bbing? He travels the world and is juggling several lucrative projects.
For some, its worth it. They get far more than a plastic trophy. Everything in life is temporary.
How does a supposed "Christian" rationalize injecting illegal, dangerous drugs in order to feed your ego? lol.....Didn't God say that your body is a temple?
Why would German guy consulting Milos about juicing !?.
When so many IFBB, NAC,WFF,WABBA,NABBA ex/current bodybuilding guys live in Deutschland ...... ::)
No logic !.
“Bread” soldiers?! :o:o Thanks mate
How does a supposed "Christian" rationalize injecting illegal, dangerous drugs in order to feed your ego? lol.....Didn't God say that your body is a temple?
err.. didnt God create steroids?
Do you think Milos lies about how many steroids he took?
Milos has always said he took a shitload of different products, experimented with everything. BUT, the actual milligrams of steroids were relatively low if we believe him. EPO, IGF-1, plasma expanders, GHB, all narcotics, anything and everything. But all the plans I've seen were relatively low on the anabolics.
I have no idea what this kid was adviced to do, but if I were to guess: moderate anabolics intake with a lot of insulin. Twice a day training with insulin before and after each session plus a shot in between the training sessions.
The kid gains 50lbs and is bloated from all the food and BP spikes. BP can sometimes go haywire on relatively low anabolics (hell, even on no drugs) but the rapid weight gain sure seems the main culprit.
How does a supposed "Christian" rationalize injecting illegal, dangerous drugs in order to feed your ego? lol.....Didn't God say that your body is a temple?
How does a supposed "Christian" rationalize injecting illegal, dangerous drugs in order to feed your ego? lol.....Didn't God say that your body is a temple?
Oh brother, just stop. Don't speak of things you know nothing about. The idea that taking anabolics is a sin. "Your body is a Temple." Perfect example how people twist things to suit their agenda. Think about how you live? What kind of shape you're in? I've never been drunk or high in my life. I've never smoked weed or cigarettes ever. Drank a half of beer over 45 years ago.
Are smokers going to hell? Fat people?
The absurd lengths people will go to promote their agenda is just beyond laughable.
Come on, Pop-pop, I expect more from you.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
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Milos gets a lot of bad press, he's not a bad guy at all, and his protocols back in the day were very moderate compared to others especially juice wise, he did push the insulin envelope. But a fascinating guy to talk too,a too his soul bodybuilder, I never really got the hate, he certainly seemed to care a lot about the guys he helped, a lot of the guys he helped including Luke just doubled or tripled what milos prescribed.
Anyway just my two cents on the guy.
another german milosvictimathlet :D
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Oh brother, just stop. Don't speak of things you know nothing about. The idea that taking anabolics is a sin. "Your body is a Temple." Perfect example how people twist things to suit their agenda. Think about how you live? What kind of shape you're in? I've never been drunk or high in my life. I've never smoked weed or cigarettes ever. Drank a half of beer over 45 years ago.
Are smokers going to hell? Fat people?
The absurd lengths people will go to promote their agenda is just beyond laughable.
Come on, Pop-pop, I expect more from you.
When your build is ... this ... time to NOT step into a battle thong.
Now cleaning out his system after working with the Mad Scientist from Serbia!Milos not phased by this, still posting multiple photos daily from 20 plus years ago.
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Oh brother, just stop. Don't speak of things you know nothing about. The idea that taking anabolics is a sin. "Your body is a Temple." Perfect example how people twist things to suit their agenda. Think about how you live? What kind of shape you're in? I've never been drunk or high in my life. I've never smoked weed or cigarettes ever. Drank a half of beer over 45 years ago.
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Never said it was a sin...I'm saying it's unhealthy and phony...And although you get them from a doctor, most people don't and that IS illegal...You are so skinny on drugs, makes me wonder how small you would be without them, that's probably why you take them....ego
Milos not phased by this, still posting multiple photos daily from 20 plus years ago.
Skimmed over the original post.
What else was Milo's supposed to do? He told the kid to take BP meds, which is exactly what he should've done.
.1mg clonodine 2-3x a day and reevaluate what he wants to do. If he doesn't want to do what it takes to build a physique that's competitive, that's his problem.
What a naive view to have. Do you think that Milos type insulin doses are 'what it takes' to be competitive in bodybuilding? ::)
Dude, you don't know me. Run your mouth to someone else.
You're right, I have absolutely no idea who you are and I've never heard of you. I am personal friends with a number of top competitors who have been on the Olympia / Arnold Classic circuit, yes nearly all taking insulin - but not at Milos levels...
Edit: Read some of your posts, you seem to know your stuff - whoever you are. No real point to disagreeing, I am just surprised by the prominence of huge amounts of insulin as I tend to not see it (to that degree) in the top guys I know personally.
Milos protocols seem to call for lots of insulin, is it true? How about GH? Why do a lot of his guys have health issues or dead? Are they doing more than he’s advising or is it his advising to take more than usual?
WOW!!! What is going on here? I dont know where to begin. Let's start with that massive, head.
haha!The guy is older than my dad, I cant imagine my dad post photos daily of himself in his 20s. It's very odd, the guy has a phenomenal physique, but there's a way to tastefully post a throwback photo every once in a while.
interesting you bring that up
You're right, I have absolutely no idea who you are and I've never heard of you. I am personal friends with a number of top competitors who have been on the Olympia / Arnold Classic circuit, yes nearly all taking insulin - but not at Milos levels...
Edit: Read some of your posts, you seem to know your stuff - whoever you are. No real point to disagreeing, I am just surprised by the prominence of huge amounts of insulin as I tend to not see it (to that degree) in the top guys I know personally.
Only, Meadowbank NSW 2114 warehouse employee would wrote this ;)
Milo's was nice enough to give me the basics on insulin when I was 17 (20+ yrs ago) because I was already on a cycle and I'd already bought my insulin and was gonna figure it out one way or another. At the time I'd worked up to 45-60iu/day (within 6months or so??) and people were shitting themselves saying I was gonna die, or go into a coma, or make myself diabetic.
Obviously it doesn't work that way. (I did have 1 fuckup when a post workout 12(or14?) Iu shot of humulin R wasn't even close to kicking in by the time I got home and I wanted to eat and go to bed, and with a few Ripped Fuel caps still in me from the workout I had no appetite. I always liked to do a semi-big shot before bed and eat 4-8 eggos, covered in cinnamon and sugar, butter, and syrup, and wash'em back with 1/3gal milk. I'd sleep like a baby and wake up a good 4-5lbs heavier, full, and covered in veins.... So I did another shot, I forget how much. Maybe 8-10iu thinking my insulin had gotten too warm and was "dead". 20mins later, still nothing. So I did 2-3iu IV, which should've kicked in within a few mins. Nothing. So, 3-4iu IV more and went down to cook up 2 boxes of Mac n cheese.
Got on the computer while the noodles cooked and as I was typing I noticed my hand wouldn't stop twitching. I couldn't type and kept hitting the button on the mouse on accident... This went on for a while, as I was pouring sweat and in full-on hypo (which was always the goal, I'd wait till I was in hypo, 30-35mins post IM insulin inj to eat and I could eat 3-4x what I normally would, and quick)... Then I realized ALL the water had burned out of the noodles and the noodles were burned black in the pan. Uh-oh. Made back to back to back pieces of cinnamon toast and drank a Coke and a 1/4gal milk and I was fine within 5mins.
That was the closest I'd come to "fucking up" my dose, and that was with about 22-24iu IM and another 6-7iu IV all within about 35-45mins.
I'm not at all surprised that many guys don't use or don't know how to use, or don't care for insulin, as back 20yrs ago I knew NPC and IFBB guys who had no idea how to use it or didn't care for it. I don't really care for it now ND wouldn't bother with it unless I was using GH or GHRP. Guys these days (who do use it) can also use a lot more because they're using a lot more GH than guys used back then. More GH= higher blood sugar and a higher requirement for insulin.
Everybody jumping on Milo's for whatever, but at least Milo's has used himself as a guinea pig first before advising anyone else to do it.
Iron Cross, funny that you know the address of Sam's warehouse but I do not..! ;D
Damn, that 20+ iu IM and the IV too. That is pretty crazy, thanks for sharing.
Question for you, do you thinking bodybuilding is better or worse off with today's use of insulin?
still with milos, will be doing the ny pro :D
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Iron Cross, funny that you know the address of Sam's warehouse but I do not..! ;D
Damn, that 20+ iu IM and the IV too. That is pretty crazy, thanks for sharing.
Question for you, do you thinking bodybuilding is better or worse off with today's use of insulin?
Worse off imo
Bbing should go back to just anabolics , but we know that will never happen
See - I wonder why someone like Cedric doesn't just say "F*ck it", drop the insulin and come in old-school dry..? I mean, what does he have to lose exactly..?
Milo's was nice enough to give me the basics on insulin when I was 17 (20+ yrs ago) because I was already on a cycle and I'd already bought my insulin and was gonna figure it out one way or another. At the time I'd worked up to 45-60iu/day (within 6months or so??) and people were shitting themselves saying I was gonna die, or go into a coma, or make myself diabetic.
Obviously it doesn't work that way. (I did have 1 fuckup when a post workout 12(or14?) Iu shot of humulin R wasn't even close to kicking in by the time I got home and I wanted to eat and go to bed, and with a few Ripped Fuel caps still in me from the workout I had no appetite. I always liked to do a semi-big shot before bed and eat 4-8 eggos, covered in cinnamon and sugar, butter, and syrup, and wash'em back with 1/3gal milk. I'd sleep like a baby and wake up a good 4-5lbs heavier, full, and covered in veins.... So I did another shot, I forget how much. Maybe 8-10iu thinking my insulin had gotten too warm and was "dead". 20mins later, still nothing. So I did 2-3iu IV, which should've kicked in within a few mins. Nothing. So, 3-4iu IV more and went down to cook up 2 boxes of Mac n cheese.
Got on the computer while the noodles cooked and as I was typing I noticed my hand wouldn't stop twitching. I couldn't type and kept hitting the button on the mouse on accident... This went on for a while, as I was pouring sweat and in full-on hypo (which was always the goal, I'd wait till I was in hypo, 30-35mins post IM insulin inj to eat and I could eat 3-4x what I normally would, and quick)... Then I realized ALL the water had burned out of the noodles and the noodles were burned black in the pan. Uh-oh. Made back to back to back pieces of cinnamon toast and drank a Coke and a 1/4gal milk and I was fine within 5mins.
That was the closest I'd come to "fucking up" my dose, and that was with about 22-24iu IM and another 6-7iu IV all within about 35-45mins.
I'm not at all surprised that many guys don't use or don't know how to use, or don't care for insulin, as back 20yrs ago I knew NPC and IFBB guys who had no idea how to use it or didn't care for it. I don't really care for it now ND wouldn't bother with it unless I was using GH or GHRP. Guys these days (who do use it) can also use a lot more because they're using a lot more GH than guys used back then. More GH= higher blood sugar and a higher requirement for insulin.
Everybody jumping on Milo's for whatever, but at least Milo's has used himself as a guinea pig first before advising anyone else to do it.
A legend of the sport
“Sport”.Sorry, I forgot to use capital letter
Some one in finnish BB-forum had interesting list:
Flex Wheeler = Kidneys & amputated leg
Luke Wood = Dead
Mustafa Mohammed = Kidneys
Sonny Schmidt = Dead
Greg Kovach = Dead
Ed van Amsterdam = Dead
Ernie Taylor = Synthol clown
King Kamali = Just clown, deformed ape
Kris Dim = Heart attack
Marius Dohne = Kidneys
Nasser El Sonbaty = Dead
What is the common factor with these guys? They did use Milos as a coach. He is claiming that he has been coaching also guys like Ruhl, who looks quite healthy but was able to retire alive, and many others. Dennis Wolf isn't only who has fired him, there was at least half of dozen of them. Milos has been busy little snake oil salesman.. ;D
20 years old and completely bold?
:-X :-X :-X :-X
Their lung capacity seems to go to hellUnfortunately,I can attest to that fact.
Competitive athletics are not healthy.X2
:DTerrible,,
still alive and happy...
gut workout
Would test alone also have a negative ageing effect on the face?
What happened to him?BUKKAKE from Sonny Schmidt...Nasser...and the black guy from the above photo.
Unfortunately,I can attest to that fact.
IF YOU SMOKE.................QU IT RIGHT NOW !!
Milos did nothing wrong. This kid should be aware that if you want to be a successful pro bodybuilder, then death is a very likely outcome! :DBro...
Regan Grimes just signed up with him
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Some people might not understand german on here (story starts around min 43:00), but here's the short-version for you guys:
The 20 yr old german Amateur kid (3rd place at the Olympia amateur 2019) was hooking up with Milos as a prep coach several months ago. Milos sent him his new "Off Season"-Stack via E-Mail and he immedeately was like "Holy Cow - is that guy serious ??", with several compounds twice the dosage he had at the Olympia amateur contest prep. Milos conviced him the stack was ok and that's what it takes. Accoring to Milos' protocol he also had to increase carbs an his Slin intake every single week, week after week. After 8 weeks he had gained around 50 pds of bloat, felt like complete shit 24/7 and wasn't able to do anything anymore. He had constant headache, couldn't breathe anymore and ended up in hospital with bloodpressure 220/120, got hospitalized for several days (never had bloodpressure-issues before).
When he got out he contacted Milos and told him he had been in hospital for the past few days with his bloodpressure completely out of control. So Milos told the 20 yr old kid to take some bloodpressure-medication and continue with his protocol. After that conversation he broke off contact with Milos. :)
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Milos was great, but you can really see Nasser's superior genetics for arms in this shot.
I never understood why Milos used synthol before...but now I can sort of understand it - I think pro bodybuilders need something like half their muscle groups to be excellent, and half to be good or very good.
Some like Ronnie Coleman, Kevin Levrone, and Gunter Schlierkamp have basically no weak parts - unless we want to nitpick [Ronnie and Gunter had midsection issues - but what can you expect at 300-lb? Kevin's legs were a bit downsized towards the end of his career, but I wouldn't say he had any "weak" points in his prime. Some said Kev was narrow, but I have NEVER understood that one, lol].
Nasser only really had a "weak" back - in that it wasn't anything like Dorian's. But why put synthol in those arms?
Even Milos was fine without it, IMO. Or at least - don't abuse it.
Sad that Nasser ultimately died of Bigorexia.
Also, remember that photo "KidneyColonDead.jpg"? Now there are many more photos like that - including this one. And it's not like Nasser would be old if he was alive today - I think he would be 56 next month? Something like that.
I think Sonny Schmidt would be just 68.
I guess we now have an answer to John Romano's question "Where are the bodies?"
What is it that ages the face so much?
Steroids in general. Look at the faces of guys that juice heavy in their 20's they all look older than their years suggest.Nonsense, old antisteroid troll. You could change your tune a little bit sometimes. Have you ever used them, no off course.
Nonsense, old antisteroid troll. You could change your tune a little bit sometimes. Have you ever used them, no off course.
Off the top of my head, Melvin Anthony, Lou Ferrigno, Porter Cotrell,, Paul Dillett, Chris Cormier and I'm not going to list any more because almost all juicers don't have this problem. Some newer guys have this effect from God knows what.
Retard.
Hey, he just made the 3rd callout at a 3rd tier Pro show in Italy, not too shabby, good job Milos... :)
PROJECT MR. OLYMPIA
This will be interesting to watch to see if Milos makes an impact on Regan's physique. I like Milos because he's open, enthusiastic and postive plus his idea of elevating insulin around workouts makes sense. But for various reasons I don't think Milos' methods will make a big impact on Regan. Milos guys don't tend to come in really crisp either. I don't think it's because of insulin per se, it's a combination on factors. His training, while his giant sets can be a good methodology at times, is not optimal imo. He believes you can burn in cuts and striations into a physique - it's not true. He thinks, for example, that holding the contraction on leg extension will burn in cuts. Ridiculous and it hasn't worked in even one case on his clients. Bodybuilding is basically increasing muscle size and that's it. A progressive overloading in various rep ranges is where it's at for the most part imo.
Had Milos coached anyone that ended up doing well in shows? I can’t recall, even Hide started doing better without him.
Had Milos coached anyone that ended up doing well in shows? I can’t recall, even Hide started doing better without him.
Had Milos coached anyone that ended up doing well in shows? I can’t recall, even Hide started doing better without him.
This will be interesting to watch to see if Milos makes an impact on Regan's physique. I like Milos because he's open, enthusiastic and postive plus his idea of elevating insulin around workouts makes sense. But for various reasons I don't think Milos' methods will make a big impact on Regan. Milos guys don't tend to come in really crisp either. I don't think it's because of insulin per se, it's a combination on factors. His training, while his giant sets can be a good methodology at times, is not optimal imo. He believes you can burn in cuts and striations into a physique - it's not true. He thinks, for example, that holding the contraction on leg extension will burn in cuts. Ridiculous and it hasn't worked in even one case on his clients. Bodybuilding is basically increasing muscle size and that's it. A progressive overloading in various rep ranges is where it's at for the most part imo.
BTW, is this Milos current girlfriend? I would not in any way critisize his choice but only note that it would be a departure from the type of chicks he used to go for. Did he learn that those fitness/glamour whores were not proper gf material?
i really don't think its a coach issue.
Regan has jumped coaches every season.
aceto
camel crew
dorian in Canada
Milos
I don't think you can necessarily say there is an "issue" at all. Regan's gained muscle recently. He's in the Olympia. What more do we want from these guys? Somebody has to place at the bottom of the pack. Like if someone doesn't immediately win the O there's a coaching issue? That said, one approach may be better than another.
Why do these morons need coaches anyways. It's not rocket science. Dorian won 6 Mr. O without any "coach".Dorian was much smarter though that isn't saying much. Dorian said in an interview that he was surprised other pros didn't keep track of their diet from show to show. He wrote everything down meticulously so he wouldn't have any surprises to how his body responded to diet, training or drugs. Those other guys are too lazy to do that so they hire a coach.
Regan Grimes just signed up with him
I could never figure out why anyone hired a personal trainer. When I started lifting weights at 12 years old it took me all of 30 minutes to learn like 20 exercises. Who pays to have someone teach them that?
Dorian was much smarter though that isn't saying much. Dorian said in an interview that he was surprised other pros didn't keep track of their diet from show to show. He wrote everything down meticulously so he wouldn't have any surprises to how his body responded to diet, training or drugs. Those other guys are too lazy to do that so they hire a coach.
I could never figure out why anyone hired a personal trainer. When I started lifting weights at 12 years old it took me all of 30 minutes to learn like 20 exercises. Who pays to have someone teach them that?
Dorian was much smarter though that isn't saying much. Dorian said in an interview that he was surprised other pros didn't keep track of their diet from show to show. He wrote everything down meticulously so he wouldn't have any surprises to how his body responded to diet, training or drugs. Those other guys are too lazy to do that so they hire a coach.
I could never figure out why anyone hired a personal trainer. When I started lifting weights at 12 years old it took me all of 30 minutes to learn like 20 exercises. Who pays to have someone teach them that?
I use to be of a similar mindset until I started paying attention to how most people work out. Well, not necessarily their workouts and how it is structured but how they do simple movements. How they can so screw up simple pushing or pulling movements. I can only imagine what a mess their actual training routine is. So many would do well having a personal trainer.There are hundreds of free videos on Youtube showing how to do every exercise imaginable. Why pay for free information? Those pro coaches are drug dealers. Most Olympia winners did not have a coach.
Also, a coach helps you keep motivated. This is very, very important. I know many here think they can just motivate themselves but that's not true. Your body always finds a way to fool you into thinking you are giving it your all. Every sport on a high level has a coach and it makes a difference between being a winner and a loser. And as far as bbing goes, these coaches have been around for decades and are very well versed, far more than doctors, on nutrition and drug use. It was just trial and error in the old days, but now you have to start young and advance fast. They are not going to learn all there is and deciphering what's what on message boards and what other gym rats tell them. If you are competing at a high level you have to stack as many chips in your favor.
It cost a lot to have an IFBB pro-level trainer and a Jay Cutler or Ramy aren't going to do it unless they thought it mattered. It's hard to know for certain if it would have made any difference as you would think after winning the O once you'd have your body and what it needs down pat but they don't think so. And they are Mr. Olympians.
I use to be of a similar mindset until I started paying attention to how most people work out. Well, not necessarily their workouts and how it is structured but how they do simple movements. How they can so screw up simple pushing or pulling movements. I can only imagine what a mess their actual training routine is. So many would do well having a personal trainer.
Also, a coach helps you keep motivated. This is very, very important. I know many here think they can just motivate themselves but that's not true. Your body always finds a way to fool you into thinking you are giving it your all. Every sport on a high level has a coach and it makes a difference between being a winner and a loser. And as far as bbing goes, these coaches have been around for decades and are very well versed, far more than doctors, on nutrition and drug use. It was just trial and error in the old days, but now you have to start young and advance fast. They are not going to learn all there is and deciphering what's what on message boards and what other gym rats tell them. If you are competing at a high level you have to stack as many chips in your favor.
It cost a lot to have an IFBB pro-level trainer and a Jay Cutler or Ramy aren't going to do it unless they thought it mattered. It's hard to know for certain if it would have made any difference as you would think after winning the O once you'd have your body and what it needs down pat but they don't think so. And they are Mr. Olympians.
I do not believe Jay had a trainer type coach like a Charles glass during his career, a drug and nutrition coach, yes, but not somebody counting reps and telling him what exercises to doHe didn't. I worked out at his gym in Las Vegas when he was Mr. O.
I could be wrong but I recall he didn’t, same goes for Ronnie, Kevin, Shawn, etc
Nowadays most of the guys have coaches that tell them what exercises to do, how many reps, rest days, the whole nine yards
Also, a coach helps you keep motivated. This is very, very important. I know many here think they can just motivate themselves but that's not true. Your body always finds a way to fool you into thinking you are giving it your all.
I do not believe Jay had a trainer type coach like a Charles glass during his career, a drug and nutrition coach, yes, but not somebody counting reps and telling him what exercises to do
I think this is the most important factor. If the athlete (beauty contestant) believes and respects the trainer/guru it can really help, even if the trainer screws up some things. And there's always going to debate on everything, from how to perform exercises to what drugs to take in what quantities.
It's easy to take shortcuts, for example, cut out better exercises for "easier" ones. I've done it, everyone has. Conversely, a few may need to be told when to pull back occasionally when fatigue is mounting too much. Schedule in periods of lesser intensity. Schedule in true HRT periods or even complete off periods.
Everything starts in the mind. If the coach believes in you and you respect him then it will help psychologically.
Then there are the personalities who are uncoachable. I'm one of them. I love getting input but I like to make the final calls. :D
Due to instagram many pros are getting advice from exercise physiologist/biomechanics nerds nowadays.
Like from this fella:
https://instagram.com/coach_kassem?utm_medium=copy_link
Even absolute freaks like Jordan Peters has sought coaching from him. The number of bodybuilders doing "his" exercises on IG is ridiculous. Everyone is doing his lat pulldowns - for example he says the back should be straight instead of arched for lat activation, little things like that.
Everyone speaks highly of Charles Glass but I find manyy of his exercise selections a bit ridiculous. For example this one:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CUaSqXLl53t/?utm_medium=copy_link
Is there any good reason to do that exercise when there are many more stable exercises where you can actually load the glutes with meaningful loads?
Like some little tweak is going to change your body lmao.
Lifting is just about stimulating the bodyparts. The rest is all genetics and drugs. It's why brothers in the pen doing push ups can have better lats than gymcels on the outside using the perfect scientific angles and advanced periodisation blocks from pseudo scientists online.
I think this is the most important factor. If the athlete (beauty contestant) believes and respects the trainer/guru it can really help, even if the trainer screws up some things. And there's always going to debate on everything, from how to perform exercises to what drugs to take in what quantities.Glass has to come up with new exercises so people will pay him. Gotta pay for that van in the parking lot.
It's easy to take shortcuts, for example, cut out better exercises for "easier" ones. I've done it, everyone has. Conversely, a few may need to be told when to pull back occasionally when fatigue is mounting too much. Schedule in periods of lesser intensity. Schedule in true HRT periods or even complete off periods.
Everything starts in the mind. If the coach believes in you and you respect him then it will help psychologically.
Then there are the personalities who are uncoachable. I'm one of them. I love getting input but I like to make the final calls. :D
Due to instagram many pros are getting advice from exercise physiologist/biomechanics nerds nowadays.
Like from this fella:
https://instagram.com/coach_kassem?utm_medium=copy_link
Even absolute freaks like Jordan Peters has sought coaching from him. The number of bodybuilders doing "his" exercises on IG is ridiculous. Everyone is doing his lat pulldowns - for example he says the back should be straight instead of arched for lat activation, little things like that.
Everyone speaks highly of Charles Glass but I find manyy of his exercise selections a bit ridiculous. For example this one:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CUaSqXLl53t/?utm_medium=copy_link
Is there any good reason to do that exercise when there are many more stable exercises where you can actually load the glutes with meaningful loads?
Glass has to come up with new exercises so people will pay him. Gotta pay for that van in the parking lot.
There are hundreds of free videos on Youtube showing how to do every exercise imaginable. Why pay for free information? Those pro coaches are drug dealers. Most Olympia winners did not have a coach.
The sport evolves. Every top IFBB pro uses or has used a coach. You don't need a coach to get drugs.The pros today look like shit. Maybe they should reevaluate having a coach or not.
The sport evolves. Every top IFBB pro uses or has used a coach. You don't need a coach to get drugs.
The pros today look like shit. Maybe they should reevaluate having a coach or not.
I would say most top guys are at least partly sponsored with steroids. They have dealers begging them to give them roids. Perhaps for bragging rights or to funnel more customers to them via referral. Most of the time pharma growth you have to pay for. Steroids are so cheap so they often get them for free.
The gurus aren't making bank via selling roids to the relatively few pros they have. Yes I'm sure many are in the drug dealing business somehow, but the money comes via high volume sales to gym rats, probably mostly online customers, via middle man, in that case.
Anyone with more insight?
I watched a video on Leo Longevity yesterday. He had Tony Huge, Bostin and coach Bleu Taylor. Leo was fawning over the guys' conditioning but Bostin thought most were out of shape. Bleu said at most 10% were in proper condition. His explanation? They either used "fake coaches" who don't know what they do and more likely, the guys are lazy and not "willing to suffer." Bleu said Hany is the best coach in history as he is consistent with his guys. Said Hunter had about 6-7 lbs of fat and 3lbs of water to lose. Bostin and Bleu thought Hadi was the clear winner, as did I and many here on getbig.
Bleu said, and I agree with him, that had Keone been in shape it would have been him and Lunsfors fighting for first place. But the guy was plain fat, probably due to laziness. The guy is incredible from a muscular and structural standpoint.
Bleu also said he doesn't use diuretics for 99% of his guys. The trick is being "fat free." The guys are not holding water, they still have fat to lose.
BTW, Clarida is doing the OPEN this weekend.
Keone:
Finally arrived in Egypt
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Milos was great, but you can really see Nasser's superior genetics for arms in this shot.
I never understood why Milos used synthol before...but now I can sort of understand it - I think pro bodybuilders need something like half their muscle groups to be excellent, and half to be good or very good.
Some like Ronnie Coleman, Kevin Levrone, and Gunter Schlierkamp have basically no weak parts - unless we want to nitpick [Ronnie and Gunter had midsection issues - but what can you expect at 300-lb? Kevin's legs were a bit downsized towards the end of his career, but I wouldn't say he had any "weak" points in his prime. Some said Kev was narrow, but I have NEVER understood that one, lol].
Nasser only really had a "weak" back - in that it wasn't anything like Dorian's. But why put synthol in those arms?
Even Milos was fine without it, IMO. Or at least - don't abuse it.
Sad that Nasser ultimately died of Bigorexia.
Also, remember that photo "KidneyColonDead.jpg"? Now there are many more photos like that - including this one. And it's not like Nasser would be old if he was alive today - I think he would be 56 next month? Something like that.
I think Sonny Schmidt would be just 68.
I guess we now have an answer to John Romano's question "Where are the bodies?"
Well those two could never share a hat!
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Last callout open Bodybuilders
Dauda
Grimes
Shaaban
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Milos stock just went up 2 of the top 3.
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Open Bodybuilders Final Results
1) Regan Grimes
2) Mohamed Shaaban
3) Samson Dauda
4) Mohamed El Emam
5) Mohamed Foda
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They want to be just like the founder of their religion. :-X
What the fuck, is Mohamed the only name they know over there ???
They want to be just like the founder of their religion. :-X
It's just like all the Christians who name their Sons Jesus... er... oh, wait a minute... ???Mexicans do.
it used to be Hamed but then they had Mohameds, next its will be Evenenorehameds
What the fuck, is Mohamed the only name they know over there ???
What the fuck, is Mohamed the only name they know over there ???
This is what a real champion looks like....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=106434.0;attach=118013)
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:D
Mohamed Grimes
Regan Mohamed
what happened to him?
what happened to him?