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Title: CPap machine
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 19, 2022, 10:02:54 PM
Any getbiggers using a Cpap machine? If so has it been a game changer in terms of quality of your life? Looking into getting a Dreamstation Cpap which is what Stan Efferding recommends.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: G_Thang on January 20, 2022, 01:41:56 AM
I don't use CPAP but think the machine model matters unless you have complex apnea and have to be on one of the advanced modes in which the algorithms are different, depending on the brand. Proper mask fitting seems to be more important.  From what I gather, you want to stay away from high-pressure full face masks.  I'm sure the users can give more details.   
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: pamith on January 20, 2022, 01:59:39 AM
What is cpap?  ???
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: bhank on January 20, 2022, 02:17:54 AM
What is cpap?  ???

It an oxygen tank for obese people so they don't die in their sleep
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Gym-Rat on January 20, 2022, 02:21:27 AM
get a bipap instead
youre welcome
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: IroNat on January 20, 2022, 03:54:32 AM
Lose weight and you won't need it.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 20, 2022, 04:37:50 AM
I have one and have never wore it longer than thirty minutes. I’m a side sleeper and it forces you to sleep on your back. I could never get used to it. I’ve heard once you muscle through it that it is a life changer. Keep us informed.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: G_Thang on January 20, 2022, 04:58:11 AM
I have one and have never wore it longer than thirty minutes. I’m a side sleeper and it forces you to sleep on your back. I could never get used to it. I’ve heard once you muscle through it that it is a life changer. Keep us informed.

Probably the best REM sleep y'all ever have if you optimize it supinely.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 20, 2022, 05:23:56 AM
Probably the best REM sleep y'all ever have if you optimize it supinely.

You got any suggestions as to type of masks for a side sleeper, or do I just need to learn how to sleep on my back?
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: funk51 on January 20, 2022, 09:52:09 AM
   
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: sync pulse on January 20, 2022, 10:15:24 AM
Any getbiggers using a Cpap machine? If so has it been a game changer in terms of quality of your life? Looking into getting a Dreamstation Cpap which is what Stan Efferding recommends.

I do...I would fall asleep at red lights...(car had a stick)...A cop I knew tapped on my window and let me off with a warning to get to a doctor.  I was diagnosed at the Diagnostic Clinic in Houston.

The first night that I was able to make it work for me was wonderous...simply wonderous in the euphoric feeling that It left me...Also the bedsheets were exactly the way they were when I went to bed...When I was apneaing, I would trash the bed clothes with my legs.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: sync pulse on January 20, 2022, 10:27:32 AM
I have one and have never wore it longer than thirty minutes. I’m a side sleeper and it forces you to sleep on your back. I could never get used to it. I’ve heard once you muscle through it that it is a life changer. Keep us informed.

You just need a different headpiece...
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 20, 2022, 10:39:59 AM
I have one and have never wore it longer than thirty minutes. I’m a side sleeper and it forces you to sleep on your back. I could never get used to it. I’ve heard once you muscle through it that it is a life changer. Keep us informed.

For someone who doesn't have any sleeping issues, 4 hours sleep with CPap leaves you feeling as well rested as you would feel after 8 hours normal sleep.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 20, 2022, 10:43:38 AM
You got any suggestions as to type of masks for a side sleeper, or do I just need to learn how to sleep on my back?
Learn to push away from the dinner table.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: sync pulse on January 20, 2022, 11:54:08 AM
For someone who doesn't have any sleeping issues, 4 hours sleep with CPap leaves you feeling as well rested as you would feel after 8 hours normal sleep.

This is a sign of an undiagnosed sleep apnea problem...
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: G_Thang on January 20, 2022, 01:12:22 PM
You got any suggestions as to type of masks for a side sleeper, or do I just need to learn how to sleep on my back?

People use cushions or pillows.  I think people naturally roll to their backs and aren't even aware.  That's the reason why they test to optimize supine sleep. Once they have the pressure, you are fine in any position.  That's my understanding of the testing.

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-cj4q2/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/3281/3351/NoInsuranceMedicalSupplies_Airfit_P10_Nasal_Pillow_Cpap_Mask_with_Headgear_img11__77895.1441137001.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 20, 2022, 01:27:09 PM
This is a sign of an undiagnosed sleep apnea problem...

I made a point to say "for someone who doesn't have any sleeping issues". I did a sleep study a couple of years ago after I randomly started snoring despite being the leanest I'd ever been. I didn't have sleep apnoea. But almost everyone can benefit from a CPap because everyone stops breathing whilst sleeping. Sleep apnoea suffers obviously just stop breathing more often

Is 4 hours of near perfect deep sleep enough? Not usually nor recommend, but it is still up for debate as their are outliers, so it may vary between between individuals. However it worked for me (with the aid of a CPap) without one I can get through the day with 4 hours sleep, but don't feel 100%.

Is a CPap worth it if you don't suffer from sleep apena? Probably not, I just happened to have one. CPaps are quite commonly used in the nootropics/cognitive enhancement community and by some of those who believe they need to be up for 20 hours a day.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 20, 2022, 01:47:15 PM
I’m a stomach sleeper and it just didn’t work.  Also for some people it helps them sleep for others it can actually energize you.  I was one of those. I would be dead tired and also it on and all of a sudden I’m wide awake. It sucked.  I tried every mask they had from nostrils to fill face.  Full face was horrible.   I’m also a mouth breather so the nostril one which they recommend did not work.   I really wanted it to but no luck.  These clinics are crooks. They let you use it and after a certain day they charge your insurance for the full price.  The closer you get to that day the less responsive they are to you.   So I went in on the last day and dropped off the contraption on their desk.  I also hated going to the clinics. I’m in good shape and everyone in the lobby were old farts or obese and I mean OBESE people.  Once though there was this hot cougar but otherwise I hated going.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 20, 2022, 02:07:13 PM
90% of what has been written in this thread about sleep apnea and CPAP Therapy is pure bullshit. Do not listen to these guys.  Go on a legit medical website and/or see a sleep doctor.

Yeah because giving a personal account based on experience is bullshit when that's exactly the type of information OP requested.

Only bullshit here is your advice about seeking medical advise where none was sought or offered.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Primemuscle on January 20, 2022, 04:41:51 PM
Any getbiggers using a Cpap machine? If so has it been a game changer in terms of quality of your life? Looking into getting a Dreamstation Cpap which is what Stan Efferding recommends.

I saw an add for this device a few days ago. I don't us or need a Cpap, but I know people who do and they say they are uncomfortable to use. If I had sleep apnea, I'd look into the Inspire airway stimulation therapy. https://www.inspiresleep.com/cost-and-eligibility/
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 20, 2022, 05:28:53 PM
Thanks to everyone who chimed in, keep the stories coming if possible, I can find a Dreamstation Cpap for $250-300, I was thinking about just buying it and trying it out, going through sleep studies and whatnot is kind of awkward and not sure how accurate they are, I remember I did a sleep study probably 15 years ago and all these wires were hooked up to me, in a different sleep environment/bed then my own and I was seriously uncomfortable and didn't sleep a wink. The accounts I've seen from various bodybuilders/athletes all seem to be positive, I was just looking for some opinions here knowing the feedback will be real.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Marty Champions on January 20, 2022, 05:32:40 PM
If you need a cpap u probably dont exercise
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 20, 2022, 05:40:13 PM
If you need a cpap u probably dont exercise

What CPap model are you using?
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: ThisisOverload on January 20, 2022, 06:06:42 PM
I remember I did a sleep study probably 15 years ago and all these wires were hooked up to me, in a different sleep environment/bed then my own and I was seriously uncomfortable and didn't sleep a wink.

I did a sleep study 10 years ago and didn't sleep at all. I don't understand how people can sleep in those conditions.

What i have learned is that for me the issues are related to my weight. At a heavier bodyweight i have sleep apnea problems, but once i drop weight it seems to go away. At my leanest i never snored or had sleep issues. But everyone is different.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: trapz101 on January 20, 2022, 06:13:12 PM
Lose weight and you won't need it.

strange because my sleep apnea is at its worst when i'm only weeks out from a competition
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 20, 2022, 06:15:07 PM
-Only obese people have sleep apnea
-You must sleep on your back if you use CPAP
-CPAP machine is an oxygen tank
So you are saying these statements are true?

I've already provided information in an earlier post regarding my use of a CPap
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Lartinos on January 20, 2022, 07:42:17 PM
My friend just told me there is a class action lawsuit in regards to one one these right now.

I think it was causing some type of toxicity.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Never1AShow on January 20, 2022, 07:46:35 PM
It makes me sad to think that some people need to use these to sleep.  Very sad.  Losing weight isn't easy, but there's gotta be something you can do besides hooking up to a machine like this every night.  I truly feel for someone who has to do this.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 21, 2022, 07:07:28 AM
You took issue with my saying 90% of what has been said in this thread is bullshit. Which of those statements do you feel aren't bullshit and why?

Already told you. The only bullshit in this thread are your posts
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: IroNat on January 21, 2022, 07:10:21 AM
When my bodyweight goes up above a certain point I snore a lot.

Has something to do with neck size methinks.

Could be even if you're lean but your neck is big you can have problems.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2022, 12:13:13 AM
strange because my sleep apnea is at its worst when i'm only weeks out from a competition

Where are your blue stars?  Or were you talking about dick sucking competitions?
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: CalvinH on January 22, 2022, 06:39:54 AM
strange because my sleep apnea is at its worst when i'm only weeks out from a competition


Lay off the tren.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: trapz101 on January 22, 2022, 07:02:28 AM
Where are your blue stars?  Or were you talking about dick sucking competitions?


can't bother because apparently ron prefers giving out blue stars to basile and goodrum  :'(
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: longtimereader on January 22, 2022, 07:05:34 AM
I had a sleep study done and had very minor apnea, I forgot how many per hour but the doc said I don't really need a cpap but could try if I wanted to.

I bough a top of the line ResMed cpap machine - first night with cpap I couldn't sleep, second night I slept. After the 3rd night I had the worst ear ache I've ever had. Started looking at side effects of cpap and ear problems will happen as air is getting blown in your ear. Stopped using the cpap due to the ear pain and got a wedge pillow. The wedge pillow reduced my apnea episodes significantly.


Get an at home sleep study done but I think it is better to treat the cause of apnea, like losing weight than using a machine to hide the symptoms

https://www.singularsleep.com/pages/at-home-sleep-study
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Never1AShow on January 22, 2022, 08:32:19 AM
I had a sleep study done and had very minor apnea, I forgot how many per hour but the doc said I don't really need a cpap but could try if I wanted to.

I bough a top of the line ResMed cpap machine - first night with cpap I couldn't sleep, second night I slept. After the 3rd night I had the worst ear ache I've ever had. Started looking at side effects of cpap and ear problems will happen as air is getting blown in your ear. Stopped using the cpap due to the ear pain and got a wedge pillow. The wedge pillow reduced my apnea episodes significantly.


Get an at home sleep study done but I think it is better to treat the cause of apnea, like losing weight than using a machine to hide the symptoms

https://www.singularsleep.com/pages/at-home-sleep-study

Sounds like the first logical step would be to spend $40 on a wedge pillow and skip the other very expensive and time consuming stuff if it works
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 22, 2022, 09:31:28 AM
I had a sleep study done and had very minor apnea, I forgot how many per hour but the doc said I don't really need a cpap but could try if I wanted to.

I bough a top of the line ResMed cpap machine - first night with cpap I couldn't sleep, second night I slept. After the 3rd night I had the worst ear ache I've ever had. Started looking at side effects of cpap and ear problems will happen as air is getting blown in your ear. Stopped using the cpap due to the ear pain and got a wedge pillow. The wedge pillow reduced my apnea episodes significantly.


Get an at home sleep study done but I think it is better to treat the cause of apnea, like losing weight than using a machine to hide the symptoms

https://www.singularsleep.com/pages/at-home-sleep-study
What kind of mask were you using? The one I would be getting is just a nose attachment.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Flexacon on January 22, 2022, 11:23:22 AM
Whatever you say moron.

Low effort troll. Up your stamina son.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: Campeon Del Mundo on January 22, 2022, 06:45:38 PM
I do this for a living...

First step is to have a comprehensive in lab sleep study done.  The doctor can look at the results
and the prescribe an appropriate machine for you.

Masks are really a matter of personal preference.  I do prefer full face masks that cover nose and mouth.  If you are a mouth breather then i recommend using a full face mask.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: loco on January 22, 2022, 07:51:05 PM
Certain Philips Respironics Ventilators, BiPAP, and CPAP Machines Recalled Due to Potential Health Risks: FDA Safety Communication

These issues can result in serious injury, which can be life-threatening, cause permanent impairment, and require medical intervention to prevent permanent damage.

To date, Philips Respironics has received several complaints about the presence of black debris/particles within the device’s air pathway. Philips Respironics also has received reports of headache, upper airway irritation, cough, chest pressure, and sinus infection, which may be related to this issue, though the cause of the symptoms cannot be definitively linked.

The potential risks of particulate exposure include irritation to the skin, eye, and respiratory tract, inflammatory response, headache, asthma, and toxic or carcinogenic effects to organs, such as kidneys and liver.

The potential risks of exposure to chemicals released into the device’s air pathway from the PE-PUR foam include headache; dizziness; irritation in the eyes, nose, respiratory tract, and skin; hypersensitivity; nausea/vomiting; and toxic and carcinogenic effects.

The foam degradation may be exacerbated by high heat and high humidity environments, and by use of unapproved cleaning methods, such as ozone.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/certain-philips-respironics-ventilators-bipap-and-cpap-machines-recalled-due-potential-health-risks
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: loco on January 23, 2022, 07:22:54 AM
Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) without Obesity Is Common and Difficult to Treat

A substantial proportion of patients with OSA are not obese.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5181619/
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: benchmstr on January 23, 2022, 07:27:31 AM
I have been the proud owner of a cpap machine for 5 years..it hasn’t done anything for me!! Mainly because it has never left the bag it came in at the top of my closet..

Bench
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: longtimereader on January 23, 2022, 07:32:58 AM
What kind of mask were you using? The one I would be getting is just a nose attachment.

I tried 2 masks one was mouth/nose and the other just nose pillows. both hurt my ears and after doing research ear problems seem to be very common
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 26, 2022, 09:57:43 AM
Ended up buying the Dreamstation cpap, found it on Craigslist with only 50 hours use, negotiated it down from $250 to $170, so we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: CPap machine
Post by: rollin on January 26, 2022, 12:53:04 PM
I used to wake up gasping for air and that was super scary. So I had a sleep study and got put on cpap. I hated it.
Everytime you turn in your sleep the hose got in the way. I lost some weight and was able to get off of it.
I hope I never have to use one again. Piece of mind its by the bed if I need it but it was far from fun.
I guess it did help from me gasping for air and now I don't need it. Good luck with. Also a sleep study sucks especially if you need to
get up in the middle of the night to piss and your attached to a ton of wires.