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Re: 'broncaid'
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2007, 09:46:37 AM »
I don't know about you guys, but here (Canada) you just gotta find a shady Indian/Pakistani owned health food store.. they keep the original 25mg Ephedrine HCL behind the counters :)  just grabbed 3 bottles for summer..

100 tabs @ 25mg for $25 , can't go wrong!


this sounds like a good idea....but me being the skeptic I am would rather go with bronkaid because as gh15 says, bronkaid is made by bayer, a reputable and legit pharmaceutical company, so you know for sure what you're getting.  in a sketchy store, can you really trust the products?  i personally wouldn't

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2007, 09:49:18 AM »
Bronkaid seems to be the best re: ephedrine re price/purity.

First try a healthier stack of Mega T or similar green tea extract in place of eph, along with the same 200 mg. caffeine pill. Gree tea: 400mg polyphenols on two doses a day together with caffeine, stacked with the amino acid L-Tyrosine.


In a study reported on in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, it was found that green tea extract resulted in a significant increase in energy expenditure (a measure of metabolism), plus also had a significant effect on fat oxidation.

While some of the effects were originally theorized to be due to the caffeine content of green tea, the researchers discovered that the tea actually has properties that go beyond those that would be explained by the caffeine.

The same amount of caffeine as was in the green tea, administered alone, failed to change energy expenditure in other studies. This led reseachers to believe that there is some interaction going on with the active ingredients of green tea that promotes increased metabolism and fat oxidation.

The researchers indicated that their findings have substantial implications for weight control. A 4% overall increase in 24-hour energy expenditure was attributed to the green tea extract, however, the research found that the extra expenditure took place during the daytime. This led them to conclude that, since thermogenesis (the body's own rate of burning calories) contributes 8-10% of daily energy expenditure in a typical cubject, that this 4% overall increase in energy expenditure due to the green tea actually translated to a 35-43% increase in daytime thermogenesis.

Of critical importance to thyroid patients is the fact that none of the research subjects reported any side effects, and no significant differences in heart rates were noticed. In this respect, green tea extract is different from some of the prescription drugs for obesity, and herbal products like ephedra, which can raise heart rates and blood pressure, and are not recommended for many individuals, in particular, those with thyroid disease who may be particularly sensitive to stimulants.

If you were to incorporate green tea into your weight loss efforts, how is the best way to go about it?

One way would be to choose a reputable brand of organic green tea at a health food store or natural grocery, and start by taking a cup of tea every day. You can also take a green tea extract, in the form of a supplement.

Either way, says dietitian Lynn Moss, M.S., R.D., a continuing education specialist for Pharmavite, you should take the green tea with meals, to reproduce the study's conditions as much as possible.

Moss also feels that green tea may be a good choice for thyroid patients because, unlike caffeine, " green tea has the potential to accelerate metabolism -- which can help weight loss slightly -- without overstimulating your adrenal glands."

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2007, 09:52:42 AM »
What's the difference between ephedrine sulfate and ephedrine HCL?  Does one have any advantage over the other?

Yea....Does anyone know the difference between these two? I have noticed that the sulfate does not give me the kick that the HCL does. I previously have used Primatene at 25 mg, now I am using 25 mg (2 tabs) of Bronkaid and it just does not feel as strong at all. Anyone have this experience? .

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2007, 11:12:30 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2007, 11:40:42 AM »
someone give me the cliffnotes version:

they sell this stuff at CVS?

Do you have to ask the pharmacist or is it on the shelf?

How much does it cost?

sorry I don't want to read the whole thread.
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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2007, 12:44:38 PM »
Does this raise your heart rate significantly?   I don't want my blood pressure or heart rate too elevated.  I don't know who would

It does, but GODDAMN I've been on them a week (no gear yet) and I'm dropping bf like crazy!!

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Re: 'broncaid'
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 12:59:38 PM »
Yea....Does anyone know the difference between these two? I have noticed that the sulfate does not give me the kick that the HCL does. I previously have used Primatene at 25 mg, now I am using 25 mg (2 tabs) of Bronkaid and it just does not feel as strong at all. Anyone have this experience? .

Because ephedrine sulfate is made from ephedrine hydrochloride, it is significantly more expensive - approximately 1.5 times the price of the hydrochloride. The presence of 20% by weight sodium (or potassium) chloride in order to avoid stability problems further dilutes the sulfate and significantly adds to the cost of the sulfate on an active ephedrine basis. Conversely, ephedrine HCl provides a high purity, stable source of ephedine that is readily absorbed by the body and is the most cost effective form of ephedrine available.

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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 02:16:48 PM »
I have used both Primatene and Bronkaid and I also believe I got a bigger "kick" from Primatene, but damn it kept me up late at night. Bronkaid doesn't seem to do that to me.

The funny thing is I still get asthma when I get sick or a have a bad cold, so just having it around is great!

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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 02:18:04 PM »
I got 240 25mg capsules of ephedra from Mr Getbig.  Extreme Labs, good stuff.

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2007, 02:19:15 PM »
I got 240 25mg capsules of ephedra from Mr Getbig.  Extreme Labs, good stuff.


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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2007, 02:21:32 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2007, 02:22:08 PM »
I have used both Primatene and Bronkaid and I also believe I got a bigger "kick" from Primatene, but damn it kept me up late at night. Bronkaid doesn't seem to do that to me.

The funny thing is I still get asthma when I get sick or a have a bad cold, so just having it around is great!

Primatene - who else can speak on this?

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2007, 02:22:22 PM »
That's not me, that's God.

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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2007, 02:25:01 PM »
You = ugly.


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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2007, 02:28:58 PM »
You = ugly.


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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2007, 02:34:26 PM »
Haha - Predator2 was on last night gary busey got fucked by the demon man


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Re: 'broncaid'
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2007, 03:07:00 PM »
Primatene - who else can speak on this?

Been a while since I've used a E/C product but the Primatene a strong and long lasting feel to it. In tems of feel and effectiveness, I would rate he old Ultimate Orange as the best, followed by Primatene caffeine mix.   

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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2007, 03:38:54 PM »
Because ephedrine sulfate is made from ephedrine hydrochloride, it is significantly more expensive - approximately 1.5 times the price of the hydrochloride. The presence of 20% by weight sodium (or potassium) chloride in order to avoid stability problems further dilutes the sulfate and significantly adds to the cost of the sulfate on an active ephedrine basis. Conversely, ephedrine HCl provides a high purity, stable source of ephedine that is readily absorbed by the body and is the most cost effective form of ephedrine available.


Do you think they work the same? Makes sense....but the Bronkaid (sulfate) is cheaper then the Primatene (HCL) where I live. Bronkaid is half the price?

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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2007, 03:46:49 PM »
Just as I had figured.....no reply from Mr. intensione  ::)

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2007, 04:05:21 PM »
Just as I had figured.....no reply from Mr. intensione  ::)
He's out drinking some Gh15 flavored Haterade.  ;)
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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2007, 04:48:42 PM »
someone give me the cliffnotes version:

they sell this stuff at CVS?

Do you have to ask the pharmacist or is it on the shelf?

How much does it cost?

sorry I don't want to read the whole thread.

yeah i bought mine at cvs.  i'm not sure what state you live in, but here you cna't buy more than 4 packs a month or something due to meth use. (illinois)
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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2007, 05:13:26 PM »
this is the shit. end of story!

Isn't that for horses?

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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2007, 06:11:57 PM »
I just bought Bronkaid off Amazon and had it shipped to the UK.  I'm hoping it does the business.

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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2007, 06:17:21 PM »
I just bought Bronkaid off Amazon and had it shipped to the UK.  I'm hoping it does the business.


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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2007, 06:23:48 PM »
Primatene - who else can speak on this?

I've used primatene mist in the past, it's expensive, taste's pretty bad and will give you a sore throat.  The mist is being discontinued according to my pharmacist because of the way the puffer works.  They recently changed the laws regarding this and even if you have a perscription for albuteral you have to have it changed to meet the new standards.  Sorry, I only know about the mist, never tried the tabs..the mist did make me "gitery" but I never put 2 and 2 together that it was working like ephedra, I just wasn't thinking about that, I couldn't breath real well at the time.
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