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Title: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: ManBearPig... on October 12, 2006, 07:03:16 PM
Each year Americans drink 15 billion gallons of carbonated drinks.

That's rougly 50 gallons per person.

That's rougly 500 cans per person.

That's rougly 70,000 calories.

That's rougly a 20 lb gain a year.  per person.

every year.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bast000 on October 12, 2006, 07:05:47 PM
and coffee with sugar,and fruit juice, koolaid, slurpys, etc.

Artificial sugar is key.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: BayGBM on October 12, 2006, 07:14:06 PM
400 Cokes a year!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=96691.0
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: beatmaster on October 12, 2006, 07:35:38 PM

Because peoples are lazy, someone said to me one day ''how many hours of tv are they watching?, can't you take one hour and a half and train'', most of them will never do it, why, too hard , too complicated, i don't like to do that, on and on.....

fast food and tv, that's the key, then 10 years later they wake up........  but it's gonna be harder to lose that extra fat and they will probably quite after 3 months.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: gymrat3082 on October 12, 2006, 07:48:41 PM
tv, computer, over eating, "super size it" and being lazy
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: jwb on October 12, 2006, 07:56:58 PM
The portions in the US are larger than most places in the world... I always gain 5 lbs when I go to america
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 12, 2006, 08:12:46 PM
Actually,

These really aren`t valid reasons of why America is fat.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: kh300 on October 12, 2006, 11:17:25 PM
people are just getting lazier by the day. when i was a kid we used to go to the park, play baseball, baseketball, and all that shit. now i go by my old neighborhood and the parks and fields are empty. kids just sit inside on the comp and playstation eating shit
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: gordiano on October 12, 2006, 11:21:50 PM
Because peoples are lazy, someone said to me one day ''how many hours of tv are they watching?, can't you take one hour and a half and train'', most of them will never do it, why, too hard , too complicated, i don't like to do that, on and on.....

fast food and tv, that's the key, then 10 years later they wake up........  but it's gonna be harder to lose that extra fat and they will probably quite after 3 months.

Yep, in a nutshell.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: AVBG on October 12, 2006, 11:22:22 PM
Actually,

These really aren`t valid reasons of why America is fat.

c'mon genius. dont hold back.

Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: fathead on October 13, 2006, 02:34:11 AM
WOULD IT MAKE IT YOU FEEL BETTER IF WE WERE FUCKEN STARVING?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 13, 2006, 03:00:59 AM
just makes me look better by comparison.
you can REALLY notice the difference if you go to europe...even in a place with lots of heavy foods like italy id say less than10% of the pop is fat.

id say as much as 40% of the women have nice legs, asses and bodies...compared to maybe 10% of american women. everywhere you see people walking around, being outside and actually using their bodies and enjoying real life.

americans tend to spend less than 10 minutes a day actually outside...just sit in front of a screen and drink sodas all day.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: CQ on October 13, 2006, 03:23:38 AM
The portions in the US are larger than most places in the world... I always gain 5 lbs when I go to america

Portion sizes are huge in restaurants in the US.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Quickerblade on October 13, 2006, 03:38:43 AM
american are universally known as fat fucks
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: LASTREP72 on October 13, 2006, 03:46:35 AM
Americans work longer hours than any other country in the western world and spend allot of time traveling to and from work, many don't have time or don't make a consious effort to set aside time make sure their diets are in order. In the US fast food is cheap, readily available, the saves the hard working person allot of time. I'm an American living in Norway, the first thing I noticed about these social-capitalist style European countries is how they work a very strict 8-4 or 9-5 day, and many don't have the rediculous travel times we do in the states - and fast food is very expensive and not affordable for the average person to eat daily. Hell just look at the problems they had in Germany when Wal-Mart wanted folks to work longer than a 35 hour work week - in western europe people believe in going to work and getting the fuck home in time to enjoy the rest of the day!!! In the US people work very hard to make ends meet and many reward their hard days with bad foods.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: kilojoule on October 13, 2006, 03:50:05 AM
The land of the fat free!!!
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 13, 2006, 03:56:34 AM
Americans work longer hours than any other country in the western world and spend allot of time traveling to and from work, many don't have time or don't make a consious effort to set aside time make sure their diets are in order. In the US fast food is cheap, readily available, the saves the hard working person allot of time.

 when you consider the fact that the average american also watches several hours of tv a day, this excuse doesnt really hold up.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 13, 2006, 04:28:18 AM
Exactly.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: gh15 on October 13, 2006, 04:39:49 AM
most americans are just big people,,,both males and females,,,its as simple as that (irish,,scotish,,etc)

when you have big/thick people,, frame wize/bone wize,,,and you combine it with good ole whole milk, ham and pizza hut plus some macs and good ole sonnys,,,you create a belief in the american female's head that the average guy is 220lb,,and that makes her think that being 180lb makes her look good.....


the coutry is severly obese. if you gotta work out at 5'7 to maintain yourself at 240lb insted of 260lb ,,,you my friend are obese.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Luv2Hurt on October 13, 2006, 04:44:08 AM
people are just getting lazier by the day. when i was a kid we used to go to the park, play baseball, baseketball, and all that shit. now i go by my old neighborhood and the parks and fields are empty. kids just sit inside on the comp and playstation eating shit

Whats so bad about that? Actually I like it, keeps the noisy, little pains in the ass in the house making their parents life hell, not mine.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 05:01:04 AM
Because peoples are lazy, someone said to me one day ''how many hours of tv are they watching?, can't you take one hour and a half and train'', most of them will never do it, why, too hard , too complicated, i don't like to do that, on and on.....

fast food and tv, that's the key, then 10 years later they wake up........  but it's gonna be harder to lose that extra fat and they will probably quite after 3 months.

How Come I eat Mcdonalds everyday just about and Burger King, Ice Cream Cookies Doughnuts and spend a lot of time watching Tv,Reading and on the computer and do NO cardio, yet manage to stay in single digit bodyfat?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 05:01:51 AM
I love the excuses so far.....hahahahaha

Nobody has gotten the right answer yet as to why people are fat.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: efirkey on October 13, 2006, 05:06:03 AM
Don't forget the beer and wine sections in most supermarkets are just as big or bigger than the soda section.  And alcohol in my opinion puts on the pounds quicker than soda.  At least some soda has caffeine in it to boost your metabolism some.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 13, 2006, 05:09:25 AM
I love the excuses so far.....hahahahaha

Nobody has gotten the right answer yet as to why people are fat.

you dumb fuck

you practice portion control combined with exercise.. brilliant... you have fucking ZERO muscle mass

TA, get off of your high horse. You are contributing nothing to this conversation

dumb fucking piece of shit
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 05:31:34 AM
The economy demands longer work hours and longer commutes

its as simple as that
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 13, 2006, 05:46:49 AM
I love the excuses so far.....hahahahaha

Nobody has gotten the right answer yet as to why people are fat.
There is no specific answer, it's a number of factors, including bad diet, little excercise. Bad diet can be split up in too much fastfood, to much refined sugar, too big portions etc. The reasons behind those factors again have different causes, like lack of time, lack of knowledge, instant gratification motivation etc, sugar addiction. Suggesting that there's one answer is a folly. All this is no excuse for being aboses, but it shows obesity stems from cultural values to self-destructive behaviour to genetics in some cases. And all these factors intertwine and interact...

Besides, being single digit BF is different from being healthy, around 15% BF is perfectly normal and healthy, constantly being below 10% can lead to reduced immune-system functioningand disruption of the hormonal system, among others.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Playboy on October 13, 2006, 05:47:21 AM
Each year Americans drink 15 billion gallons of carbonated drinks.

That's rougly 50 gallons per person.

That's rougly 500 cans per person.

That's rougly 70,000 calories.

That's rougly a 20 lb gain a year.  per person.

every year.
FAST FOOD FAST FOOD FAST FOOD :)

PB
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 05:49:02 AM
There is no specific answer

there is actually

mine
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 13, 2006, 05:55:04 AM
there is actually

mine

 ;) if only life was that easy....
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 06:08:17 AM
our society demands convenience to supply productivity. we're all just rats on a revenue wheel to our respective governments.

obesity is just an economic side effect

it is that simple
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: pumpster on October 13, 2006, 06:11:52 AM
Many factors including too much time online.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 13, 2006, 06:16:33 AM
our society demands convenience to supply productivity. we're all just rats on a revenue wheel to our respective governments.

obesity is just an economic side effect

it is that simple


that's like saying it's a side effect of a certain lvl of civilization. Well, for a functional answer it's a bit too much of a meta level isn't it?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: jaejonna on October 13, 2006, 06:20:43 AM
I drink carbonated drinks like deit pepsi and I have abs bro.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: CQ on October 13, 2006, 06:32:17 AM
I think it is basically a matter of the diet. Large portions, as well as unhealthy foods seem to be fairly popular.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 13, 2006, 06:32:47 AM
I have to go to the US to see it for myself, I really can't belive that there are so many fat people.

on the plus side we have a lot of thick healthy chicks, nice big tits and ass. I love a girl with some good size on her.

these young girls running around with 25-35% BF..hmmmmmm
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 06:34:09 AM
that's like saying it's a side effect of a certain lvl of civilization.


wouldnt you agree that all civilizations are fabricated by their economic environment?

Well, for a functional answer it's a bit too much of a meta level isn't it?

semantics

Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 06:38:36 AM
There is no specific answer, it's a number of factors, including bad diet, little excercise. Bad diet can be split up in too much fastfood, to much refined sugar, too big portions etc. The reasons behind those factors again have different causes, like lack of time, lack of knowledge, instant gratification motivation etc, sugar addiction. Suggesting that there's one answer is a folly. All this is no excuse for being aboses, but it shows obesity stems from cultural values to self-destructive behaviour to genetics in some cases. And all these factors intertwine and interact...

Besides, being single digit BF is different from being healthy, around 15% BF is perfectly normal and healthy, constantly being below 10% can lead to reduced immune-system functioningand disruption of the hormonal system, among others.

Don`t forget too many Chicken Breasts and Protein Shakes.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Tre on October 13, 2006, 06:47:52 AM

I work out 5 days a week, but I eat like shit 7 days a week.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 13, 2006, 06:51:32 AM


wouldnt you agree that all civilizations are fabricated by their economic environment?

semantics



Semantics, mais non! Suppose you work a government organisation bestowed with the task of a program to reduce obesity and you were asked to try to get useable strategy for the problem, would you come up with the same answer? Short career it would be...


BTW Civilization and economic environment are interacting.

Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 06:52:09 AM
I work out 5 days a week, but I eat like shit 7 days a week.

No such thing as eating like shit.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 13, 2006, 06:52:50 AM
Don`t forget too many Chicken Breasts and Protein Shakes.
I won't .... ;)
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 07:00:46 AM
Semantics, mais non! Suppose you work a government organisation bestowed with the task of a program to reduce obesity and you were asked to try to get useable strategy for the problem, would you come up with the same answer? Short career it would be...


BTW Civilization and economic environment are interacting.



Oui! Well it would be a counter productive strategy wouldnt it...after all, what Im suggesting, is it's the very environment they've created that's the cause.

btw Didnt Tom Clancy say that?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: sarcasm on October 13, 2006, 07:03:35 AM
weight gain is a simple matter of mathematics.......CALORI ES IN VS. CALORIES OUT plain and simple, if you eat more calories than you use you will build bodyfat and store adipose tissue it's as simple as that, it doesn't matter if the calories are from tuna and brown rice or pizza and ice cream, excess total calories equals bodyfat.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 07:04:03 AM
Stupidity and lack of knowledge is the underlying reason.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: dzulboy on October 13, 2006, 08:15:09 AM
How Come I eat Mcdonalds everyday just about and Burger King, Ice Cream Cookies Doughnuts and spend a lot of time watching Tv,Reading and on the computer and do NO cardio, yet manage to stay in single digit bodyfat?

bro you were barely 8-9% for the mr getbig   you are in double digits       by no means overweight  but you a5ren't in single digits
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 13, 2006, 08:28:08 AM
Another.... A big filling hamburger $1.00 ready in two minutes and on every corner. Chase that down with some sugar water and bingo.... your fat!
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 13, 2006, 08:39:29 AM
bro you were barely 8-9% for the mr getbig   you are in double digits       by no means overweight  but you a5ren't in single digits

that mother fucker really pisses me off. The bastard came in second and won't shut the fuck up. Most people that come in second will congratulate the winner and strive to make improvements. Not this little piece of shit.

I know a girl, skinny as a bean pole, can't be more than 10% BF, never worked out before. But I don't need see her running around with the "skinny school girl principals".

and for the record she has more muscle  mass than that dumb german mother fucker.

Go to any 3rd world country where people are starving and you will guys with more muscle mass than gay donis
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Tre on October 13, 2006, 08:44:38 AM
No such thing as eating like shit.

That's because you don't leave the gym in search of the nearest Oreo cookie.   :D
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 13, 2006, 08:54:05 AM
How Come I eat Mcdonalds everyday just about and Burger King, Ice Cream Cookies Doughnuts and spend a lot of time watching Tv,Reading and on the computer and do NO cardio, yet manage to stay in single digit bodyfat?


Fast metabilism and you exercise.....don't you get sick of eating junk food ?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: HUGEPECS on October 13, 2006, 09:19:54 AM
Dumb and fcuking fat ass americans wont change their shitty habits anytime soon
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: The True Adonis on October 13, 2006, 09:21:07 AM
that mother fucker really pisses me off. The bastard came in second and won't shut the f**k up. Most people that come in second will congratulate the winner and strive to make improvements. Not this little piece of shit.

I know a girl, skinny as a bean pole, can't be more than 10% BF, never worked out before. But I don't need see her running around with the "skinny school girl principals".

and for the record she has more muscle  mass than that dumb german mother fucker.

Go to any 3rd world country where people are starving and you will guys with more muscle mass than gay donis


And lets see how you compare......I am confident that I would easily best you.  If you disagree, please state why and provide unequivocal and irrefutable proof.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: XXXII/LX on October 13, 2006, 09:54:56 AM
when you consider the fact that the average american also watches several hours of tv a day, this excuse doesnt really hold up.


Diet info is treated like nuclear missle codes also. Like the "Glycemic Advantage", and "Relecore" to "shrink belly fat" bullshit. It's all smoke and mirrors. How many time have you heard people say "this diet didn't work for me", or "I work out all the time and nothing happens". 3500 cals burnt = 1 pound loss, 500 cals a day subracted from your BMR = 1 pound a week, another 500 cals burnt on cardio = another pound. With that equation you can get as agressive as you would like with fat loss. My 2 cents
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: rockyfortune on October 13, 2006, 10:06:25 AM
Americans work longer hours than any other country in the western world and spend allot of time traveling to and from work, many don't have time or don't make a consious effort to set aside time make sure their diets are in order. In the US fast food is cheap, readily available, the saves the hard working person allot of time. I'm an American living in Norway, the first thing I noticed about these social-capitalist style European countries is how they work a very strict 8-4 or 9-5 day, and many don't have the rediculous travel times we do in the states - and fast food is very expensive and not affordable for the average person to eat daily. Hell just look at the problems they had in Germany when Wal-Mart wanted folks to work longer than a 35 hour work week - in western europe people believe in going to work and getting the f**k home in time to enjoy the rest of the day!!! In the US people work very hard to make ends meet and many reward their hard days with bad foods.


agree..my hours are from 630-330 mon-fri..and when i leave at 330 i get grief for it...like i should be working longer just to appear like i'm giving a good effort..i'm like, doesn't the time i work from 630-330 matter anything? my boss is like no...no one cares about that..they want the extra effort...it's a product of this country..fuckers work you to death, tax your balls off, and wonder when a wacky s.o.b shoots up a office complex.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: OneBigMan on October 13, 2006, 02:55:45 PM
The true reason is that people always try to fulfill themselves with food and drinks. Excessive eating is a lazy habit of bits of hunger and a sign of being too soft and weak inside the body. 
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 13, 2006, 03:00:45 PM
The true reason is that people always try to fulfill themselves with food and drinks. Excessive eating is a lazy habit of bits of hunger and a sign of being too soft and weak inside the body. 
very true.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Bast000 on October 13, 2006, 07:53:32 PM
bro you were barely 8-9% for the mr getbig   you are in double digits       by no means overweight  but you a5ren't in single digits

he's lost more fat since the 'mr getbig' so he's leaner now.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: chris_mason on October 14, 2006, 07:13:32 AM
And lets see how you compare......I am confident that I would easily best you.  If you disagree, please state why and provide unequivocal and irrefutable proof.

How exactly wouold he do that?  Where is your irrefutable and unequivocal proof of anything?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 07:20:41 AM
I thought America was fat because they took nutritional advice from Melvin Goodrum? LOL
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Disgusted on October 14, 2006, 07:47:29 AM
How Come I eat Mcdonalds everyday just about and Burger King, Ice Cream Cookies Doughnuts and spend a lot of time watching Tv,Reading and on the computer and do NO cardio, yet manage to stay in single digit bodyfat?

Who cares, it's not healthy. It's crap food and I'm not talking about because it is high in fat and or carbs.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 15, 2006, 03:51:03 AM
How exactly wouold he do that?  Where is your irrefutable and unequivocal proof of anything?

He has proof of shit. ;D
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Tre on October 15, 2006, 09:08:40 AM
when you consider the fact that the average american also watches several hours of tv a day, this excuse doesnt really hold up.

If we did more cardio while watching TV, we'd be a lot better off.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: freespirit on October 15, 2006, 09:44:57 AM
Americans are degenerating rapidly.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: TDK on October 15, 2006, 09:50:18 AM

btw: I have a client from Norway. They're on holiday most of the time.  ::)

Are you telling me you wouldn't prefer to live like that if you got the same wage?  You actually WANT to work? lol

Whats there for Americans to be so proud about for working stupid long hours if you can get paid the same in another country and have more time off and less hours?
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: freespirit on October 15, 2006, 09:53:32 AM
Are you telling me you wouldn't prefer to live like that if you got the same wage?  You actually WANT to work? lol

Whats there for Americans to be so proud about for working stupid long hours if you can get paid the same in another country and have more time off and less hours?

Ha ha exactly. Working long hours, travel to and from work in slow traffic taking a looooong time, and only 2 lousy weeks vacation. The American Dream! OMG I'm jealous.   ::)
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: freespirit on October 15, 2006, 10:01:03 AM
 (http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc454/th_31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg) (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg)

Ha ha, look at these bunch of fat bottom degenerates, avoiding to walk the stairs. Weak!  ;D
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: tleilaxutank on October 15, 2006, 10:11:37 AM
It's pretty simple:

Intake (food) - [expenditure (work, working out, cardio etc.) + regulatory requirements (brain activity, body temperature maintenance etc.) >= Weight gain

Period
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 11:10:51 AM
(http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc454/th_31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg) (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg)

Ha ha, look at these bunch of fat bottom degenerates, avoiding to walk the stairs. Weak!  ;D

24hr in San Diego.

I used to live about 1 mile from that gym.


Nasser trains there occasionally

 ;)
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: DK II on October 15, 2006, 11:14:22 AM
(http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc454/th_31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg) (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=31007_24fitness_122_454lo.jpg)

Ha ha, look at these bunch of fat bottom degenerates, avoiding to walk the stairs. Weak!  ;D

That has to be a joke!!!

Who the fuck uses a escalator when he goes to a gym??
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 11:35:46 AM
That has to be a joke!!!

Who the f**k uses a escalator when he goes to a gym??

Actually...that gym has always been known for having alot of hot girls that work out there


So....I would bet....alot of guys go there
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: DK II on October 15, 2006, 12:06:18 PM
Actually...that gym has always been known for having alot of hot girls that work out there


So....I would bet....alot of guys go there

just plain stupid.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 12:18:02 PM
just plain stupid.

It's the way it was built....they could have used stairs I'm sure
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 15, 2006, 12:24:23 PM

Diet info is treated like nuclear missle codes also. Like the "Glycemic Advantage", and "Relecore" to "shrink belly fat" bullshit. It's all smoke and mirrors. How many time have you heard people say "this diet didn't work for me", or "I work out all the time and nothing happens". 3500 cals burnt = 1 pound loss, 500 cals a day subracted from your BMR = 1 pound a week, another 500 cals burnt on cardio = another pound. With that equation you can get as agressive as you would like with fat loss. My 2 cents

I agree with the names and such, but consumers are just as dumb as the names. I worked at a supplement store in high school and I'd always get asked if Creatine was a steroid. Fat ladies would ask if a diet pill is actually going to work, like they just had to sit on the couch pop a diet pill and watch it work?! Plus parents would come in and buy their kids at 14 or 15 creatine, pro-hormones, and anything else. My buddy got caught by his parents with steroids in high school and his mom brought him to the store and spent over $500 just so he wouldn't do steroids. Stupidity is the name of the game in most Americans.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: El_Spiko on October 15, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
I think a lot of the decline in physical fitness for the general public is also due to the devalueing of the human body. You used to be a valuable worker if you were in good shape because you could handle a larger workload and accomplish things much more quickly and easily than someone who was not as fit. With the industrial revolution, all men became equal in the eyes of employers regardless of fitness. Add to that that as corporations have grown, they have gotten better and better at devalueing the individual, investing less and less in their employees and trying to figure out how to get the maximum amount of work out of them while still technically following labor laws. When you work for Wal-Mart you know that they don't care about you. And in the training you are exposed to hours and hours of indoctrination and corporate dogma, basically saying "Ask not what the company can do for you, but what you can do for the company". Sacrificing time and aspects of your life and your self are glorified, whereas putting the company anything but first is demonized. It's no surprise then that particularly in American culture where this has been taken to the biggest extreme, that we have people who are working far more and harder for much less at the expense of their health. Most employers don't respect their employees and actively train them to not respect themselves, so of course they're not going to take good care of themselves.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Jerryme7 on October 15, 2006, 07:54:28 PM
It all comes down to laziness. Parents allow their kids to play playstation instead of join a sports team.

Fast Food became something of convenience because families are too busy trying to provide for their families

We have lost the sense of family...a nice dinner or breakfast at home with the family....

We have become the fattest nation because of laziness and the dollar!! Fast food has no nutrition at all..and in the end they are the ones profiting
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Wombat on October 15, 2006, 08:18:55 PM
It all comes down to laziness. Parents allow their kids to play playstation instead of join a sports team.

Fast Food became something of convenience because families are too busy trying to provide for their families

We have lost the sense of family...a nice dinner or breakfast at home with the family....

We have become the fattest nation because of laziness and the dollar!! Fast food has no nutrition at all..and in the end they are the ones profiting

you are right on about these points and i may also add that also what is in american medcine cabinets are not helping the matter...From pain killers to anti/depressants...And the fact that half of americans smoke and are always trying to stop...And all the stupid get togethers that we try to have in this country...From X/mas to thanksgiving/birthdays/sporting events  ect...They are all based around large amounts of food/alcohol...

Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 16, 2006, 07:02:28 AM
It all comes down to laziness. Parents allow their kids to play playstation instead of join a sports team.

Fast Food became something of convenience because families are too busy trying to provide for their families

We have lost the sense of family...a nice dinner or breakfast at home with the family....

We have become the fattest nation because of laziness and the dollar!! Fast food has no nutrition at all..and in the end they are the ones profiting

Plus the Goodbum Principles!
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: TDK on October 16, 2006, 11:43:26 AM
I'm not a grunt and own my own company. So, yes. I do want to work because more work = more money. There is no same wage for fewer hours going on here. There is also a component of pride and satisfaction that comes in a day of good hard work done. Confidence that you can actually pull off a project and aren't a lazy f**k. Ironic how you all call us Americans fat and lazy because we, apparently, watch TV 24/7, yet, you all are laughing at us because you like your 2 months holiday and 6 hour work days. Talk about lazy.



Ok well you cant really relate this to self employed people as your wage is dependant on your workload.  In general self employed people work way more hours and work harder world wide, not just the USA.

If you had a permanant job with a company however whos going to not want longer holidays and shorter hours if your wage is the same?  Also Europeans are a lot more active than Americans so having time off work doesnt equate to being lazy.  You dont HAVE to lay in front of the TV for a whole week when off work.

There isnt much to be proud of in being a population of overworked people (although the US has lots to be proud of of course).
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: efirkey on October 16, 2006, 04:30:23 PM
I just looked at my social security benefits statement the other day and the US government now expects me to work to 67 in order to get full benefits when I believe it used to be 65.  The US government wants me to work until 67.  I might just be working for walmart when I get to be in my sixties as a greeter with one foot in my grave.

And the less employers can give you the more they can put in their own greedy little pockets.
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 16, 2006, 04:33:00 PM
I have a 5 page essay due tomorrow on this same subject. :'(
Title: Re: One reason for america's fatness
Post by: Wombat on October 16, 2006, 07:32:25 PM
Ok well you cant really relate this to self employed people as your wage is dependant on your workload.  In general self employed people work way more hours and work harder world wide, not just the USA.

If you had a permanant job with a company however whos going to not want longer holidays and shorter hours if your wage is the same?  Also Europeans are a lot more active than Americans so having time off work doesnt equate to being lazy.  You dont HAVE to lay in front of the TV for a whole week when off work.

There isnt much to be proud of in being a population of overworked people (although the US has lots to be proud of of course).

i have read that its much more stressful to work for someone then it is to  work for yourself...