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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: tomr1976 on October 23, 2006, 11:44:12 AM
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http://www.musclemissions.org/public/146.cfm
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lol
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ROFLMAO
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I for one feel degraded by his comments about religion and muscle building in general.
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interesting..... :o
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I bet when his rat face seen that...his blood pressure went up, his heart started pounding...he felt butterflies in his stomach and he all a sudden had to take a shit.
Hahahahahaha!
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I hate that feeling when you know you're in stress/trouble and you have a decent meal in your belly and suddenly it just wants to leave you.
In this case, it's a pointless lawsuit, and would probably result in a self-owning by the missions guy, as he would spend 7 grand in lawyer fees only to have TA flip him the bird and refuse to pay. And he could do zip about it.
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Adonis lives in North Carolina?
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I hate that feeling when you know you're in stress/trouble and you have a decent meal in your belly and suddenly it just wants to leave you.
In this case, it's a pointless lawsuit, and would probably result in a self-owning by the missions guy, as he would spend 7 grand in lawyer fees only to have TA flip him the bird and refuse to pay. And he could do zip about it.
Oh, I know that feeling, Rob...let me tell you! That's the worst.
If anything...TA will STOP with the Muscle Missions attack. He won't have the gonads to keep it up...the Anabolic Outlaw guy just put a scare in him and I will bet it worked!
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what's that gaywad site about anyways?
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I will not stop.
I have done nothing wrong.
Christianity in itself is a lie as it is and I will go to court to justify that as that is what his website rests upon.
Furthermore, he is defaming Kevin Levrone and the IFBB as well as the Weiders by the shit spouted on his site.
He has no chance in hell at accomplishing anything and I invite him to try.
I will slay this in one fell keystroke or two.
No contest.
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HE BETTER BE CAREFUL! SOME OF THESE PEOPLE "IN THE BUSINESS" DON'T FUCK AROUND!
no amount of duel bullshit or brains will save you from getting your cap spilt.
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Dont count Adonis out...
He is practicing his right to free speech.
Why isnt Muscle Missions answering Adonis's attacks? Everything that Adonis is stating is making so much sense...
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Too fucking funny...I loved seeing TA's ''I challenge you to a DUEL'' quote...classic.
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Should I contact the police?
Because I am thinking of doing so for my own protection just in case.
These are some nutcases who will stop at nothing to murder the innocent.
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i'm just sayin..i'd be careful who's ass he's got his nose up. Mind yours before minding others. It is his right...but the constitution won't save your ass from a bullet.
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and order or a piece of paper won't do you much good bro..and without any prior threats or likewise you'll be either laughed at or not taken seriously.
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I will not stop.
I have done nothing wrong.
Christianity in itself is a lie as it is and I will go to court to justify that as that is what his website rests upon.
Furthermore, he is defaming Kevin Levrone and the IFBB as well as the Weiders by the shit spouted on his site.
He has no chance in hell at accomplishing anything and I invite him to try.
I will slay this in one fell keystroke or two.
No contest.
You're right about the guy demaning people on his site, however you're in the wrong on the things you've said about his involvement with the alleged plot to off 3 witnesses. I'd suggest you shut your pie hole on this one or you may find yourself in a world of shit. What you're saying is not free speech, you're accusing someone of involvement on solicitation to commit murder with no proof.
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Any chance you could record your conversation with the police because I'd love to hear you explain the situation.
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You're right about the guy demaning people on his site, however you're in the wrong on the things you've said about his involvement with the alleged plot to off 3 witnesses. I'd suggest you shut your pie hole on this one or you may find yourself in a world of shit. What you're saying is not free speech, you're accusing someone of involvement on solicitation to commit murder with no proof.
Agreed. He is still in for a world of shit even if he stops now. Once you put the allegations out there, they're there for all to see. Accusing somebody of complicity in a murder for hire plot is SERIOUS business and goes beyond just the usual BSing one finds on a message board. Accusations of such serious criminal conduct are not covered by "free speech" laws.
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Any chance you could record your conversation with the police because I'd love to hear you explain the situation.
ROFL!
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You're right about the guy demaning people on his site, however you're in the wrong on the things you've said about his involvement with the alleged plot to off 3 witnesses. I'd suggest you shut your pie hole on this one or you may find yourself in a world of shit. What you're saying is not free speech, you're accusing someone of involvement on solicitation to commit murder with no proof.
I am within my legal right to accuse and speculate just like 240 is regarding 9/11 and the others regarding JFK.
I have done nothing wrong and I now feel my life may be threatened. I will seek a restraining order and police protection from this Musclemissions character.
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"Well, sometimes...you've just gotta do what you've gotta do!"
--Craig Titus, Version 2.0
:o
;D
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adonis is the my nucca for life
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adonis himself will get sued off his ass if someone gets a wild hair over this...
just rumors..they don't even hafta be true...can ruin someone...kinda like you bitching about being guilty by associated...
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I am within my legal right to accuse and speculate just like 240 is regarding 9/11 and the others regarding JFK.
I have done nothing wrong and I now feel my life may be threatened. I will seek a restraining order and police protection from this Musclemissions character.
Instead of wasting your time on this why don't you go and find a job?
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Instead of wasting your time on this why don't you go and find a job?
HA
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I am within my legal right to accuse and speculate just like 240 is regarding 9/11 and the others regarding JFK.
I have done nothing wrong and I now feel my life may be threatened. I will seek a restraining order and police protection from this Musclemissions character.
Nice try. You're accusing an individual of being part of solicitation to commit murder. You've named the individual and have no right to make the accusations you are. You've based your claims on heasay and assumptions. You've put it out there for all to see and got called on it. You don't have the right to accuse someone of the things you've done unless you have proof to back it up.
You got called on your BS and as much as I think the Muscle Mission guy is out in left field he has every right to take action against you.
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Damg Adonis...i think you should of kept quiet on this one bro.
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how can you sue someone for harmless message board postings? ::)
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A Christian is not supposed to sue people ;)
Part of being a christian is being slandered, persecuted, and being treated unfairly because Jesus experienced it in his earhly life...
It comes with the territory of being a christian.
If they do sue Adonis then they are hypocrites!
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run your mouth now u need protection...
..wow....
how brave...
just another internet tough guy....
if i say something i stand behind it 100%
but then again adonis does say more that most..
because being.. and internet celeb is his life....
how sad can one get :'(
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Any chance you could record your conversation with the police because I'd love to hear you explain the situation.
LOL!
What the guy put on his site is his proof of your crap. You're up shit creek without a paddle Adonis. Perhaps you should think before playing Barney Fife next time.
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I am simply connecting the dots.
It is obvious that MuscleMissions was trying to raise money for Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan.
Craig Titus was trying to spend 10 grand plus to hire a HITMAN. MuscleMissions raised this amount of money.
Clearly this was the money to be spent on a HITMAN. Musclemissions knows they are in hot water now and being investigated for this. Solicitation for murder and funding it is serious business and if this was the case, Then Mr. Musclemissions deserves to rot right next to Craig Titus.
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I haven't read all the threads.
Has the dude from MM denied All involvement in that LV mess?
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I am simply connecting the dots.
It is obvious that MuscleMissions was trying to raise money for Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan.
Craig Titus was trying to spend 10 grand plus to hire a HITMAN. MuscleMissions raised this amount of money.
Clearly this was the money to be spent on a HITMAN. Musclemissions knows they are in hot water now and being investigated for this. Solicitation for murder and funding it is serious business and if this was the case, Then Mr. Musclemissions deserves to rot right next to Craig Titus.
You ASSUMED your were connecting the dots. Craig has not been charge with a crime yet. Only Nelson Brady.
The Muscle Missions guy was part of Craig's book. That doesn't directly correlate to him being involved with any alleged hit as you claimed. There have been many people give money to Titus and Ryan but does that mean they were aware of any plan to knock off 3 witnesses? No.
You have no proof how any money was spent. Craig's audio book is still in the works and yet to be sold.
I'd suggest you shut up for your own good. Seriously bro, drop it and move on to preparing for your MD classic owning.
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LOL!
What the guy put on his site is his proof of your crap. You're up shit creek without a paddle Adonis. Perhaps you should think before playing Barney Fife next time.
His whole site is used to defame Bodybuilders and the IFBB. The judge will laugh at him for this and trying to help out a crazed murderer.
Nobody cares about the scum and dregs of society and these two are just that.
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Adonis speculating on this issue doesn't really seem much different to me than Muscle Missions speculating on all these bodybuilders worshipping Satan and performing demonic rituals; obviously murder is a bigger deal but if Muscle Missions could sue Adonis, couldn't Levrone or whoever else is mentioned negatively on his site sue him?
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His whole site is used to defame Bodybuilders and the IFBB. The judge will laugh at him for this and trying to help out a crazed murderer.
Nobody cares about the scum and dregs of society and these two are just that.
I seriously doubt a judge would laugh at him. After all, if he was guilty of libel, etc., dontcha think the Weiders would have shut him down by now?...
Sorry, Adam. My advice would be to get a good lawyer and brace for the worst.
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His whole site is used to defame Bodybuilders and the IFBB. The judge will laugh at him for this and trying to help out a crazed murderer.
Nobody cares about the scum and dregs of society and these two are just that.
Two different things. Two wrongs don't make a right.
You only continue to give him more fuel for his fire every time you post.
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and order or a piece of paper won't do you much good bro..and without any prior threats or likewise you'll be either laughed at or not taken seriously.
That. Plus the police won't take him serious on the fact that he looks like his genes were spliced with a lab rat. Especially this time of year...they'd be like..."Son, why don't you take that rat mask off then tell me again about this eh...post..posting..post thing again???"
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couldn't Levrone or whoever else is mentioned negatively on his site sue him?
Yes, however it doesn't give Adonis the right to say what he is saying.
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i'm just sayin..i'd be careful who's ass he's got his nose up. Mind yours before minding others. It is his right...but the constitution won't save your ass from a bullet.
Oooooh, you are sooo sued.
You just insinuated that TA may be shot by MM................
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Adonis speculating on this issue doesn't really seem much different to me than Muscle Missions speculating on all these bodybuilders worshipping Satan and performing demonic rituals; obviously murder is a bigger deal but if Muscle Missions could sue Adonis, couldn't Levrone or whoever else is mentioned negatively on his site sue him?
The issue at hand is not just libel. It is not just character defamation. It is accusing someone of being complicit in a plot to MURDER other human beings. That's in an ENTIRELY different category than suggesting that somebody may be involved in "satanic worship" (no offense, of course, to our pig-sacrificing satanic brethren out there)
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Nice try. You're accusing an individual of being part of solicitation to commit murder. You've named the individual and have no right to make the accusations you are. You've based your claims on heasay and assumptions. You've put it out there for all to see and got called on it. You don't have the right to accuse someone of the things you've done unless you have proof to back it up.
You got called on your BS and as much as I think the Muscle Mission guy is out in left field he has every right to take action against you.
I have seen myself many public figures accusing and condmening the likes of Michael Jackson,OJ Simpson and Robert Blake well before they were found innocent and even after.
I have the Constitutional right to say what I think about a lunatic who helps a murderer raise funds to do who knows what with, possibly solicit murder.
Its obvious that Musclemissions was involved in helping Craig Titus raise money. Why would Craig Need 10,000 dollars?
I know...I know!!!!
To buy a hitman. Funny that the gym sold for 12,000 and it was sold at the same time Craig Titus was discussing how much money would be needed for a Hitman.
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I have seen myself many public figures accusing and condmening the likes of Michael Jackson,OJ Simpson and Robert Blake well before they were found innocent and even after.
I have the Constitutional right to say what I think about a lunatic who helps a murderer raise funds to do who knows what with, possibly solicit murder.
Its obvious that Musclemissions was involved in helping Craig Titus raise money. Why would Craig Need 10,000 dollars?
I know...I know!!!!
To buy a hitman. Funny that the gym sold for 12,000 and it was sold at the same time Craig Titus was discussing how much money would be needed for a Hitman.
Craig also needed money for lawyer fees. You have no proof that the muscle mission money didn't go towards lawyer fees.
The only thing you know - the smell you're smelling - is the shit currently in your pants.
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The only thing you know - the smell you're smelling - is the shit currently in your pants.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
This thread should be stickied on the basis of that comment alone...CLASSIC
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Craig also needed money for lawyer fees. You have no proof that the muscle mission money didn't go towards lawyer fees.
The only thing you know - the smell you're smelling - is the shit currently in your pants.
He BY LAW HAS TO SHOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT!
That will be interesting.
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He BY LAW HAS TO SHOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT!
That will be interesting.
And you BY LAW HAVE TO SHOW YOUR PROOF to which you are accusing this guy of being linked to the charges against Nelson Brady's solicitation to commit murder.
THAT should be interesting.
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Lmao at this thread!
The Getbig soap opera continues, Adonis as ever at the centre of it!
Stay tuned as in the next episode as Mike finds out who Cheri has been playing away with! lol
ta ta
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Lift...didnt you call me a stalker at one point because I took a pic of Cathy Priest Nice bootay? ;D
That really hurt my feelings when you called me that. I felt like sueing you ;) Just kidding!!
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And you BY LAW HAVE TO SHOW YOUR PROOF to which you are accusing this guy of being linked to the charges against Nelson Brady's solicitation to commit murder.
THAT should be interesting.
The Link is the money and the stop at nothing attitude to cast Craig Titus in a favorable light and help him in all possible ways.
Even raising 10 grand when 10 grand was the amount Craig Titus needed for a Hitman.
Craig Titus also used language to refer to Musclemissions when discussing the murder for hire. I am sure the Police know this and you will all soon see the result.
Perhaps then I will sue you Lift Studios for all the past remarks you have made against me.
Don`t tempt me, because I will destroy all of Bodybuilding and the whole industry if I have to. Then it will all be finished.
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Cue a post from Adonis as Sarcasm saying that MuscleMissions is gayer than Dave Palumbo's eyeshadow.
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TA, just turn off your computer and walk away. It'll save you from lawsuits and everyone talking shit on you...my 2 cents
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We need Spectacular Ed to speak on this.
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Adonis will put this scumbag in a cell for life and rise up as a hero, a true vigilante!
Yo Adonis, the first amendment is on your side!
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TA, just turn off your computer and walk away. It'll save you from lawsuits and everyone talking shit on you...my 2 cents
No.
Because the money trail is going to be VERY important in this case.
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You're right about the guy demaning people on his site, however you're in the wrong on the things you've said about his involvement with the alleged plot to off 3 witnesses. I'd suggest you shut your pie hole on this one or you may find yourself in a world of shit. What you're saying is not free speech, you're accusing someone of involvement on solicitation to commit murder with no proof.
exactly...i would stfu quick if i were him. Hes getting in over his head. Sometimes the internet can become real and its not funny anymore. Hes getting to that level
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Don`t tempt me, because I will destroy all of Bodybuilding and the whole industry if I have to. Then it will all be finished.
Wow now you're taking a chapter out of Craig's audio book.
240 - do you have any advice for TA on how to handle this situation before he completely melts down before our eyes?
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Wow now you're taking a chapter out of Craig's audio book.
240 - do you have any advice for TA on how to handle this situation before he completely melts down before our eyes?
The Police will protect me.
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I am within my legal right to accuse and speculate just like 240 is regarding 9/11 and the others regarding JFK.
I have done nothing wrong and I now feel my life may be threatened. I will seek a restraining order and police protection from this Musclemissions character.
you opened your mouth, how about stfu next time instead ya pussy. Your gonna run and hide behind the police now for having a big mouth....holy fuck your a bitch
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The Police will protect me.
you feel so strong in your beliefs, you feel so confident...but your positive thoughts are not getting you any fans...everyone hates u more...just turn off the computer TA
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you opened your mouth, how about stfu next time instead ya pussy. Your gonna run and hide behind the police now for having a big mouth....holy f**k your a bitch
Hide?
The police are here to help, to protect and to serve.
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The Police will protect me.
The police won't protect you from a lawsuit.
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The police won't protect you from a lawsuit.
There is no lawsuit.
Musclemissions was funding a murderer. Musclemissions is built on defamation. Musclemissions founder has spent time in jail and is a convicted felon.
He has no lawsuit or credibility. He is not an honest person and everyone would just scoff at him, like I do.
The police is for my physical protection and to help get rid of scum.
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AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
This thread should be stickied on the basis of that comment alone...CLASSIC
yes indeed, Adonis you are going to be Fuked ha ha ha
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Musclemissions founder has spent time in jail and is a convicted felon.
Where is your proof on this statement?
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Hide?
The police are here to help, to protect and to serve.
i dont know ya but i would hate to see you get in real trouble for trying to be an internet hero. I would just get out of it anyway you can at this point. Sometimes the other person isnt bluffing on the other end. Dont get in legal trouble over it. Hes certaily not going to come after you physically...he posted the damn thing out in the open, that would be stupid on his part. Hes going to attack you legally....SO not worth it man. Good luck with your new can of worms
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The Police will protect me.
why dont you challenge the whole industry to a duel hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahhahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhahaha haha P*33Y
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The Link is the money and the stop at nothing attitude to cast Craig Titus in a favorable light and help him in all possible ways.
Even raising 10 grand when 10 grand was the amount Craig Titus needed for a Hitman.
Craig Titus also used language to refer to Musclemissions when discussing the murder for hire. I am sure the Police know this and you will all soon see the result.
Perhaps then I will sue you Lift Studios for all the past remarks you have made against me.
Don`t tempt me, because I will destroy all of Bodybuilding and the whole industry if I have to. Then it will all be finished.
you are a fag and I have proof, I Challenge you to A gay duel ;D
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why dont you challenge the whole industry to a duel hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahhahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhahaha haha P*33Y
hahaha
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Where is your proof on this statement?
Dennis Bates
Dennis L. Bates:
Ex-steroid dealer, gym owner,
competitive bodybuilder and bodybuilding contest promoter.
Director of Muscle Missions www.musclemissions.org
According to a few sites and sources he was arrested and convicted for selling steroids before "seeing the light".
I don`t have the police records but I am sure one could obtain them if they exist.
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240 - do you have any advice for TA on how to handle this situation before he completely melts down before our eyes?
I don't see signs of a meltdown on TA's part.
As I've been through messes like these in the past, I tend to avoid them nowadays. You can always ask questions and you're fine. And even when lines are crossed with outright accusations, it's monster hard to collect, as MuscleMissions is indeed a public entity which makes its living working on the frays. With the background (they make some pretty interesting observations about those in the industry without asking them for their side of things), the fact they are involved with funds and books related to this case (is that correct?), True Adonis could simply be mistaken.
At any rate, I'll predict this goes nowhere. monster waste of time. Presenting TA with a can of worms could mean LEO starts digging in THEIR yard, which no one wants.
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This Muscle Mission guy seems to be no stranger of the legal system.
If he's discussing libel/defamation, it may be the real deal, he may actually go to court with it, as opposed to what happened with Kamali/240 or Bust.
I have no idea of what the chances are for either, since I am no legal expert.
YIP
Zack
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Bates' possibly criminal past is irrelevant to the matter at hand. It doesn't matter if he's Adolf Hitler, if you made a FALSE accusation of extreme gravity (and you did), and that accusation is unfounded, then you're in deep shit. No judge in the world will allow you to dodge the issue by pointing out Bates' past, because the fact is, it will be your libel on trial, not his past.
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Bates' possibly criminal past is irrelevant to the matter at hand. It doesn't matter if he's Adolf Hitler, if you made a FALSE accusation of extreme gravity (and you did), and that accusation is unfounded, then you're in deep shit. No judge in the world will allow you to dodge the issue by pointing out Bates' past, because the fact is, it will be your libel on trial, not his past.
UNFOUNDED?
He is DIRECTLY LINKED to RAISING MONEY FOR CRAIG TITUS!
He is a "PUBLISHER". Craig TITUS was referring to a "PUBLISHER" supplying the money.
Its all there. The police are building this case. Will it be the monster owning if they Arrest Bates?
We shall see.
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Holy sh!t this is the funniest thing ive ever seen on the Getbig website. "adonis" is so F(u)cked lol. MONSTER LAWSUIT :D who knew message board drama got so real?
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i would say this muscle mission shit is all fake.i would say this war between TA and muscle mission is just fake.i won't believe unless and until either of the 2 parties sue each other in reality...lol
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Furthermore is beyond me why anyone would want to Defend such a piece of trash that is trying help a Killer make money.
Speaks volumes about your intelligence.
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Furthermore is beyond me why anyone would want to Defend such a piece of trash that is trying help a Killer make money.
Speaks volumes about your intelligence.
deeper and deeper he goes ;D
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deeper and deeper he goes ;D
i would say adonis and muscle missions are full of shit..i don't believe there crap
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TA - I hope for your sake there is a connection between it all. The Muscle Mission's guy is a strange bird and wouldn't put anything past him, however we will have to wait for the proof to come out.
If it proves you're right then maybe he will turn the book over to you to finish for him.
;D
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Adonis, both you and Muscle Missions find the bodybuilding industry both decadent and depraved. Why not find a way to work TOGETHER to overcome this sinister evil?
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TA - I hope for your sake there is a connection between it all. The Muscle Mission's guy is a strange bird and wouldn't put anything past him, however we will have to wait for the proof to come out.
If it proves you're right then maybe he will turn the book over to you to finish for him.
;D
do you even believe the crap they are talking about.i think so this a publicity stunt of some kind on musclemissions behalf..this adonis and muscle mission is all bullshit
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TA - I hope for your sake there is a connection between it all. The Muscle Mission's guy is a strange bird and wouldn't put anything past him, however we will have to wait for the proof to come out.
If it proves you're right then maybe he will turn the book over to you to finish for him.
;D
I wonder what massage can we write on TA tumb stone hmmm? ;D
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TA, since you brought up Bates' character, it's only fair that your own can be brought up in court. Can you imagine a judge reading through piles and piles of your posts on getbig? And I'm not just talking about the ones you make under the "True Adonis" account, I mean also the ones you've made under the gh15 account (which you used to slander Skip Lacour, let us not forget), "Sarcasm", and the remaining of your 14 known gimmick accounts. How favorably do you think a judge will regard a supposedly grown man in his late 20s who spends virtually his whole day and night on message boards talking to himself through multiple identities? That's monster ownage if ever I have seen it... ;D
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Furthermore is beyond me why anyone would want to Defend such a piece of trash that is trying help a Killer make money.
Speaks volumes about your intelligence.
exactly, i don't understand how people can be so stupid that they are actually defending Titus and this other scumbag, what is wrong with this world when the person exposing this bullshit is the bad guy? Adonis should be regarded as a hero for exposing this clown, TITUS KILLED SOMEONE, doesn't anyone understand that?
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do you even believe the crap they are talking about.i think so this a publicity stunt of some kind on musclemissions behalf..this adonis and muscle mission is all bullshit
Sadly, there could be something there. I never said Adonis was wrong, just that he has no proof, only speculation and hearsay. Given the character of the Muscle Missions guy I wouldn't put anything past him.
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I wonder what massage can we write on TA tumb stone hmmm? ;D
Is that a Death Threat?
I have searched your other posts and have found other Death Threats that were explicit.
Do you want to play this game?
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TA, since you brought up Bates' character, it's only fair that your own can be brought up in court. Can you imagine a judge reading through piles and piles of your posts on getbig? And I'm not just talking about the ones you make under the "True Adonis" account, I mean also the ones you've made under the gh15 account (which you used to slander Skip Lacour, let us not forget), "Sarcasm", and the remaining of your 14 known gimmick accounts. How favorably do you think a judge will regard a supposedly grown man in his late 20s who spends virtually his whole day and night on message boards talking to himself through multiple identities? That's monster ownage if ever I have seen it... ;D
That is funny, I am not any of them. So is your accusation libel/defamation? ROFLMAO
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Is that a Death Threat?
I have searched your other posts and have found other Death Threats that were explicit.
Do you want to play this game?
not a chance your idiot, not from me is not, but may be for the guy you acusing("The Muscle Mission's guy is a strange bird and wouldn't put anything past him"), you are a tool
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Sadly, there could be something there. I never said Adonis was wrong, just that he has no proof, only speculation and hearsay. Given the character of the Muscle Missions guy I wouldn't put anything past him.
I am confident in what I have posted and the truth WILL come out.
The Police are being careful and KNOWING where the money came from in those Envelopes that Brady had is integral part of the investigation as is What the money that was raised was being put forth towards.
The money trail is always a good one to follow as it often cleans up loose ends and totally proves an already good case.
The police have enough to arrest Bates as is based on probable cause alone.
Definition
The most widely held common definition would be "a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed" and that the person is linked to the crime with the same degree of certainty. An alternative definition has been proposed, "reason to believe that an injury had criminal cause", which is claimed to be more protective of individual rights as was intended by the authors of the Bill of Rights. See the Critique below.
In the context of warrants, the Oxford Companion to American Law defines probable cause as "information sufficient to warrant a prudent person's belief that the wanted individual had committed a crime (for an arrest warrant) or that evidence of a crime or contraband would be found in a search (for a search warrant)." "Probable cause" is a stronger standard of evidence than a reasonable suspicion, but weaker than what is required to secure a criminal conviction. Even hearsay can supply probable cause if it is from a reliable source or is supported by other evidence.
Probable cause is also used in accident investigations to describe the conclusions reached by the investigating body as to the factor or factors which caused the accident. This is primarily seen in reports on aircraft accidents, but the term is used for the conclusion of diverse types of transportation accidents investigated in the United States by the National Transportation Safety Board or its predecessor, the Civil Aeronautics Board.
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I am confident in what I have posted and the truth WILL come out.
The Police are being careful and KNOWING where the money came from in those Envelopes that Brady had is integral part of the investigation as is What the money that was raised was being put forth towards.
The money trail is always a good one to follow as it often cleans up loose ends and totally proves an already good case.
Not disagreeing with ya that there COULD be something there but at this point it's all speculation until an arrest is made.
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Here's what's up. The Muscle Missions guy is willing to overlook the fact that Craig Titus may have killed someone for pissing Craig off if Craig can give him more dirt on the sport that will help him further his own fucked up agenda. The Muscle Missions guy wants to see bodybuilding destroyed from what he claims to be moral grounds, when I think it's all too apparent that his hatred for the sport is driven by some self-perceived inadequacy felt on his part, or perhaps by some irrational fear that he succumbed to over the course of his own bodybuilding career. Oh the irony. Adonis still hasn't figured out what his agenda is here, either. In the meantime, perhaps these forces will work to cancel each other out.
"Yes we hate bodybuilding so much that we will live our lives to see it destroyed."
Whatever. IMO, the weak seek to kill what they love.
Adonis idolizes Hitler yet sees Craig Titus as someone we should all burn at the stake.
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Adonis idolizes Hitler yet sees Craig Titus as someone we should all burn at the stake.
Why do you think he idolizes Hitler?
YIP
Zack
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Here's what's up. The Muscle Missions guy is willing to overlook the fact that Craig Titus may have killed someone for fucking with him if Craig can give him dirt that will help him further his agenda in smearing the sport. The Muscle Missions guy wants to see bodybuilding destroyed from what he claims to be moral grounds. Oh the irony. Adonis still hasn't figured out what his agenda is here, either. In the meantime, perhaps these forces will work to cancel each other out.
"Yes we hate bodybuilding so much that we will live our lives to see it destroyed."
Whatever. IMO, the weak seek to kill what they love.
Adonis idolizes Hitler yet sees Craig Titus as someone we should all burn at the stake.
I don`t have an agenda. I call it how I see it. I am allowed to raise questions this manner and am operating well within my legal rights to do so. Bodybuilding is more often than not, nothing but ILLEGAL in its entirety and I don`t have to do anything for it to simply destroy itself. It is doing that on its own obviously.
But that is not my goal. I am simply bringing light to the shadows of lies. I am discarding the myths and breaking the falsehoods down and throwing them to the wayside. So far so good.
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Why do you think he idolizes Hitler?
YIP
Zack
If he doesn't view Hitler in a more flattering light than Titus, my apologies.
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If he doesn't view Hitler in a more flattering light than Titus, my apologies.
You don't have to apologize for recalling numerous Nazi references and pictures that Adam has posted. I agree with you that his hypocrisy knows no bounds and perhaps this one time the pussy is going to get his bell rung.
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Here's what's up. The Muscle Missions guy is willing to overlook the fact that Craig Titus may have killed someone for pissing Craig off if Craig can give him more dirt on the sport that will help him further his own fucked up agenda. The Muscle Missions guy wants to see bodybuilding destroyed from what he claims to be moral grounds, when I think it's all too apparent that his hatred for the sport is driven by some unjustifiable inadequacy on his part or perhaps some irrational fear that he succumbed to over the course of his own bodybuilding career. Oh the irony. Adonis still hasn't figured out what his agenda is here, either. In the meantime, perhaps these forces will work to cancel each other out.
"Yes we hate bodybuilding so much that we will live our lives to see it destroyed."
Whatever. IMO, the weak seek to kill what they love.
Adonis idolizes Hitler yet sees Craig Titus as someone we should all burn at the stake.
There you go AGAIN SPOUTING OFF LIES, trying to put shit in my mouth that I never said.
I never said I idolized Hitler. I think he had some fantastic Ideas regarding Medicine,Technology. I think he did more harm than good on a human scale, but for technology and Science he furthered the development at a VERY fast rate. The Atomic Bomb made my America was in direct response. It TOOK A HITLER to ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE at an unyielding degree.
We would not be where we are today in that respect had it not been for Hitler and the effects of Hitler.
Interesting actually.
I don`t idolize anyone. Instead I admire. You can find lots of things to admire in anyone.
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I don`t have an agenda. I call it how I see it. I am allowed to raise questions this manner and am operating well within my legal rights to do so. Bodybuilding is more often than not, nothing but ILLEGAL in its entirety and I don`t have to do anything for it to simply destroy itself. It is doing that on its own obviously.
But that is not my goal. I am simply bringing light to the shadows of lies. I am discarding the myths and breaking the falsehoods down and throwing them to the wayside. So far so good.
What are you going to do when they come and take your parents house away and you Hyundai with a Ferrari kit and awarded to Titus fund? ;D ;D
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Adonis don't worry man ,my uncle got away w/murder ,he had an extreme case of delusion ,if they go back and read all your posts from the past ,you fit right in . ;D
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I never said I idolized Hitler. I think he had some fantastic Ideas regarding Medicine,Technology. I think he did more harm than good on a human scale, but for technology and Science he furthered the development at a VERY fast rate. The Atomic Bomb made my America was in direct response. It TOOK A HITLER to ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE at an unyielding degree.
We would not be where we are today in that respect had it not been for Hitler and the effects of Hitler.
I don`t idolize anyone. Instead I admire. You can find lots of things to admire in anyone.
You just better hope your trial judge ain't a Jew.
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If he doesn't view Hitler in a more flattering light than Titus, my apologies.
I was just wondering about his Hitler interest, nothing else.
What do you know about it?
YIP
Zack
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I admire at least one thing I've found in watching both Titus and Hitler, and that was a very incredible exercising of their will to power. The amount of influence they were able to gain over others...devoid of moral merit whatsoever. Let's leave morality out of this. It is the will to power that any true actualization of human capabilities will ultimately depend upon. THIS is the human race, and I've no doubt that the individual with the most justified morality will win in the end so there's no fear over here. The rest of you trying to kill shit will simply kill yourselves.
YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY.
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There you go AGAIN SPOUTING OFF LIES, trying to put shit in my mouth that I never said.
I never said I idolized Hitler. I think he had some fantastic Ideas regarding Medicine,Technology. I think he did more harm than good on a human scale, but for technology and Science he furthered the development at a VERY fast rate. The Atomic Bomb made my America was in direct response. It TOOK A HITLER to ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE at an unyielding degree.
We would not be where we are today in that respect had it not been for Hitler and the effects of Hitler.
Interesting actually.
I don`t idolize anyone. Instead I admire. You can find lots of things to admire in anyone.
Interesting.
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
YIP
Zack
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I was just wondering about his Hitler interest, nothing else.
What do you know about it?
YIP
Zack
Let's just say that I know Adonis must surely consider Hitler (at the very least) "an influence." Hitler was one of Arnold's more notable influences as well. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. There's just alot of insecurity veiled under the guise of what I see as false morality upheld on these boards and it pisses me off. I see strong people otherwise and the hypocrisy disappoints me. I know us all capable of so much more.
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Interesting.
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
YIP
Zack
http://www.adl.org/Braun/dim_14_1_nazi_med.asp
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True Adonis, as someone who has been involved in a defamation lawsuit, I strongly suggest that you contact the "injured party" and try to make amends.
If he IS a Christian, a sincere apology from you should definitely work in your favor.
Feel free to PM me.
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http://www.adl.org/Braun/dim_14_1_nazi_med.asp
Nice link, gives a look into the Nazi medicine policies, and the anti-tobacco ideals of Hitler.
Still I'm wondering about the Medicine though...
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
YIP
Zack
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I admire at least one thing I've found in watching both Titus and Hitler, and that was a very incredible exercising of their will to power. The amount of influence they were able to gain over others...devoid of moral merit whatsoever. Let's leave morality out of this. It is the will to power that any true actualization of human capabilities will ultimately depend upon. THIS is the human race, and I've no doubt that the individual with the most justified morality will win in the end so there's no fear over here. The rest of you trying to kill shit will simply kill yourselves.
YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY.
This is a brilliant observation, Mcfarland. Those who have the most "rules" (religion, morals, etc.) will have a FAR more difficult time of gaining power in this world than those who do not. There are no "stop signs" on their road to power.
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Interesting.
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
YIP
Zack
There are tons more articles to be found on these subjects and HIGHLY interesting. The Germans were so far advanced in nearly all areas of technology.
They were flying ME 262 Jets and launching V-2 Rockets, when Americans and the rest of the world were still flying with propellers.
America had no idea about a system of highways or how to build them. Germany had the Autobahn commissioned Personally by Hitler.
VolksWagen"Car of the People", the Beetle, was designed by Hitler himself with Ferdinan Porsche. Hitler scrawled the idea on a napkin and envisioned the entire German people being able to own a well built car that would be as solid as the steel it was built on.
There are many interesting things in the Thrid Reich. I find it Very Fascinating and a direct link to it all is fascinating as well.
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This is a brilliant observation, Mcfarland. Those who have the most "rules" (religion, morals, etc.) will have a FAR more difficult time of gaining power in this world than those who do not. There are no "stop signs" on their road to power.
One problem with this is the number of people that have no "stop signs" in their lives often end up on the wrong end of the law. I understand making your own way as it is, but Hitler is hardly a shining example and perhaps someone else should be used.
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There are tons more articles to be found on these subjects and HIGHLY interesting. The Germans were so far advanced in nearly all areas of technology.
They were flying ME 262 Jets and launching V-2 Rockets, when Americans and the rest of the world were still flying with propellers.
America had no idea about a system of highways or how to build them. Germany had the Autobahn commissioned Personally by Hitler.
VolksWagen"Car of the People", the Beetle, was designed by Hitler himself with Ferdinan Porsche. Hitler scrawled the idea on a napkin and envisioned the entire German people being able to own a well built car that would be as solid as the steel it was built on.
There are many interesting things in the Thrid Reich. I find it Very Fascinating and a direct link to it all is fascinating as well.
He asked for medicine, not engineering. Maybe some Mengele quotes will help you you jackass.
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He asked for medicine, not engineering. Maybe some Mengele quotes will help you you jackass.
CRAIG R. WHITNEY,
Published: January 16, 1993
The president-elect of the World Medical Association has acknowledged that he was a member of the Nazi SS before World War II.
But Dr. Hans Joachim Sewering, 76 years old, a leading figure in German medicine for many years, rejected accusations by opponents to his nomination that as a young physician during the war he had sent a 14-year-old tuberculosis victim to death as part of a Nazi euthanasia program.
"I was 17 in 1933 when I had to join the SS," Dr. Sewering said in a telephone interview on Thursday from his home in Dachau, site of a Nazi concentration camp. "But later I joined the armed forces and was no longer active in the SS except in its cavalry branch, the only part of the organization not accused of war crimes."
Prof. Michael M. Kochen of the University of Gottingen and doctors from the United States, Canada, and Israel have been campaigning against Dr. Sewering becoming president of the international organization next October. The American Medical Association is a member of the group.
Dr. Sewering's opponents say that his former membership in the Nazi Party makes him unsuitable for the international post.
The charges against Dr. Sewering were first made by Der Spiegel magazine in 1978. It reported then that as a doctor at Schonbrunn tuberculosis hospital in 1943, Dr. Sewering had sent at least one patient to Eglfing-Haar. According to Dr. Kochen, this was "a well-known euthanasia center of the Nazis."
Dr. Sewering responded that the Roman Catholic church authorities responsible for those institutions before and after the war had rejected Der Spiegel's charges soon after they were made, and that he had been cleared by the West German Government, which awarded him highest civilian honors in 1975, 1981 and 1986.
Dr. Karsten Vilmar, chairman of Germany's National Chamber of Physicians in Cologne, said in a telephone interview today that the organization maintained its support for Dr. Sewering as president-elect of the world group, which designated him last fall.
"The charges were proven baseless in 1978, but they keep coming up," Dr. Vilmar said. "We never would have suggested anyone who was involved in the euthanasia program as a candidate for the presidency of the World Medical Association." Resigned as Group Head
Dr. Sewering was president of the German physicians' group from 1973 to 1978, but resigned in 1978 after Der Spiegel made the original charges and wrote an article questioning his billing practices. He has never taken legal action to force the magazine to retract its charges, though he has done so to keep others from repeating them.
He said that the Catholic order that ran Schonbrunn had authorized the discharge of the patient, a 14-year-old girl named Babette Frowls, and that the Nazi euthanasia action had been stopped in 1941.
"I still work as a consultant to Schonbrunn," Dr. Sewering said. "The order would never have kept me on if I had done such a thing."
Dr. Kochen, also reached by telephone, said: "To say the charges are baseless is simply a lie. The Frowls case is simply the only one that ever became known. He had to have known what would happen if he sent the girl to Eglfing-Haar.
"His forthcoming presidency of the World Medical Association should be intolerable for the German medical community, especially in these times," Dr. Kochen said. "He isn't yet president, and there's time to select somebody else."
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There are tons more articles to be found on these subjects and HIGHLY interesting. The Germans were so far advanced in nearly all areas of technology.
They were flying ME 262 Jets and launching V-2 Rockets, when Americans and the rest of the world were still flying with propellers.
America had no idea about a system of highways or how to build them. Germany had the Autobahn commissioned Personally by Hitler.
VolksWagen"Car of the People", the Beetle, was designed by Hitler himself with Ferdinan Porsche. Hitler scrawled the idea on a napkin and envisioned the entire German people being able to own a well built car that would be as solid as the steel it was built on.
There are many interesting things in the Thrid Reich. I find it Very Fascinating and a direct link to it all is fascinating as well.
Very interesting.
I'm aware that the Nazi's made technical breakthroughs, and some in the medicine area as well.
Still, my question is not about the Nazis.
You obviously think Hitler had some fantastic ideas regarding Medicine.
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
I never said I idolized Hitler. I think he had some fantastic Ideas regarding Medicine,Technology.
YIP
Zack
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CRAIG R. WHITNEY,
Published: January 16, 1993
The president-elect of the World Medical Association has acknowledged that he was a member of the Nazi SS before World War II.
But Dr. Hans Joachim Sewering, 76 years old, a leading figure in German medicine for many years, rejected accusations by opponents to his nomination that as a young physician during the war he had sent a 14-year-old tuberculosis victim to death as part of a Nazi euthanasia program.
"I was 17 in 1933 when I had to join the SS," Dr. Sewering said in a telephone interview on Thursday from his home in Dachau, site of a Nazi concentration camp. "But later I joined the armed forces and was no longer active in the SS except in its cavalry branch, the only part of the organization not accused of war crimes."
Prof. Michael M. Kochen of the University of Gottingen and doctors from the United States, Canada, and Israel have been campaigning against Dr. Sewering becoming president of the international organization next October. The American Medical Association is a member of the group.
Dr. Sewering's opponents say that his former membership in the Nazi Party makes him unsuitable for the international post.
The charges against Dr. Sewering were first made by Der Spiegel magazine in 1978. It reported then that as a doctor at Schonbrunn tuberculosis hospital in 1943, Dr. Sewering had sent at least one patient to Eglfing-Haar. According to Dr. Kochen, this was "a well-known euthanasia center of the Nazis."
Dr. Sewering responded that the Roman Catholic church authorities responsible for those institutions before and after the war had rejected Der Spiegel's charges soon after they were made, and that he had been cleared by the West German Government, which awarded him highest civilian honors in 1975, 1981 and 1986.
Dr. Karsten Vilmar, chairman of Germany's National Chamber of Physicians in Cologne, said in a telephone interview today that the organization maintained its support for Dr. Sewering as president-elect of the world group, which designated him last fall.
"The charges were proven baseless in 1978, but they keep coming up," Dr. Vilmar said. "We never would have suggested anyone who was involved in the euthanasia program as a candidate for the presidency of the World Medical Association." Resigned as Group Head
Dr. Sewering was president of the German physicians' group from 1973 to 1978, but resigned in 1978 after Der Spiegel made the original charges and wrote an article questioning his billing practices. He has never taken legal action to force the magazine to retract its charges, though he has done so to keep others from repeating them.
He said that the Catholic order that ran Schonbrunn had authorized the discharge of the patient, a 14-year-old girl named Babette Frowls, and that the Nazi euthanasia action had been stopped in 1941.
"I still work as a consultant to Schonbrunn," Dr. Sewering said. "The order would never have kept me on if I had done such a thing."
Dr. Kochen, also reached by telephone, said: "To say the charges are baseless is simply a lie. The Frowls case is simply the only one that ever became known. He had to have known what would happen if he sent the girl to Eglfing-Haar.
"His forthcoming presidency of the World Medical Association should be intolerable for the German medical community, especially in these times," Dr. Kochen said. "He isn't yet president, and there's time to select somebody else."
This is useless drivel. It was a guy that may or may not have been affiliated with the Nazi party and mentions nothing of Nazi medicine. At the very least you could have quoted Mengele or suggested his eugenics "studies" existed when nothing of its kind has ever been seen again. Although he was the devil incarnate, he is definetly a great representative of Nazi medicine.
Your infatuation with Nazi medicine is nothing but stupidity and I suggest you contact that Muscle Missions guy because you will be playing out of your league. Try reading a book you moron.
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One problem with this is the number of people that have no "stop signs" in their lives often end up on the wrong end of the law. I understand making your own way as it is, but Hitler is hardly a shining example and perhaps someone else should be used.
It's all about which "stop signs" you choose to run, isn't it? Nietzsche said the overman will respect only his own and will enforce his morality on the rest of his world not by force, but by example. Sounds alot like the Christian view of Jesus in that respect...but the main difference between Jesus and Nietzsche's antiChrist, in my view, was that the antiChrist could only be persecuted by his own conscience...not by the false moralities held by society. The more you examine this, the more it's apparent that if Titus is to be fucked by all this, it's only by his own hand. He'd have gotten away with it had his actions not made the case so slam dunk for the prosecutors. And so you have this latest scenario. Same for Hitler. Perhaps deep down, their supposed moralities were driven by insecurities or fear, not passion. It's the difference between running from a nightmare and chasing a dream.
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Very interesting.
I'm aware that the Nazi's made technical breakthroughs, and some in the medicine area as well.
Still, my question is not about the Nazis.
You obviously think Hitler had some fantastic ideas regarding Medicine.
What ideas regarding Medicine did Hitler have that you think are fantastic?
YIP
Zack
Personal Vested interest and he pushed for certain practices such as Cancer research and genetic Research and overseeing that the Money was there for Medical Use. Doctors were given anything they asked for,no expense spared and no limits set.
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It's all about which "stop signs" you choose to run, isn't it? Nietzsche said the overman will respect only his own and will enforce his morality on the rest of his world not by force, but by example. Sounds alot like the Christian view of Jesus in that respect...but the main difference between Jesus and Nietzsche's antiChrist, IMO, was that the antiChrist could only be persecuted by his own conscience...not by the false moralities held by society. The more you examine this, the more it's apparent that if Titus is to be fucked by all this, it's only by his own hand. He'd have gotten away with it had his actions not made the case so slam dunk for the prosecutors. And so you have this latest scenario. Same for Hitler. Perhaps deep down, their supposed moralities were driven by insecurities or fear, not passion. It's the difference between running from a nightmare and chasing a dream.
I wasn't disagreeing with you at all, merely pointing out the idea that perhaps the majority of those that run "stop signs" do not always end up in a good place.
Hitler is also a shitty example and should not be admired on any level. There are many other people with charisma and drive that never inflicted so much pain and suffering as Hitler did. Try Bill Gates. Now there is a cool guy.
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This is useless drivel. It was a guy that may or may not have been affiliated with the Nazi party and mentions nothing of Nazi medicine. At the very least you could have quoted Mengele or suggested his eugenics "studies" existed when nothing of its kind has ever been seen again. Although he was the devil incarnate, he is definetly a great representative of Nazi medicine.
Your infatuation with Nazi medicine is nothing but stupidity and I suggest you contact that Muscle Missions guy because you will be playing out of your league. Try reading a book you moron.
I am at work Moron.
I do not have time to go into great detail...I am just providing basically the first thing I see as I do not have adequate time to debate the issue, but what I do post will tide them over until I get home.
I have some of Mengele`s papers by the way.
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I wasn't disagreeing with you at all, merely pointing out the idea that perhaps the majority of those that run "stop signs" do not always end up in a good place.
Hitler is also a shitty example and should not be admired on any level. There are many other people with charisma and drive that never inflicted so much pain and suffering as Hitler did. Try Bill Gates. Now there is a cool guy.
People can argue that he has done more harm than good.
It is all relative. Most Christians would see Gates as being a huge threat and would not admire Bill Gates in the same manor as a rational person would.
Morality is a different issue altogether. When you erase the morality in the subject and focus on the Science and Technology, you can then learn to appreciate certain fundemental advancements.
Morality,completely subjective and relative in nature, more often than not, stifles technological and scientific advancement.
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I wasn't disagreeing with you at all, merely pointing out the idea that perhaps the majority of those that run "stop signs" do not always end up in a good place.
Hitler is also a shitty example and should not be admired on any level. There are many other people with charisma and drive that never inflicted so much pain and suffering as Hitler did. Try Bill Gates. Now there is a cool guy.
Well I assure you that all those who have ever achieved anything great have run their fair share of "stop signs." How many "stop signs" did Bill Gates have to run?
Hunter S. Thompson, author of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas," had this to say on morality when asked the following question in a Salon.com interview before his death:
But speaking of rules, you've been arrested dozens of times in your life. Specific incidents aside, what's common to these run-ins? Where do you stand vis-à-vis the law?
"Goddammit. Yeah, I have. First, there's a huge difference between being arrested and being guilty. Second, see, the law changes and I don't. How I stand vis-à-vis the law at any given moment depends on the law. The law can change from state to state, from nation to nation, from city to city. I guess I have to go by a higher law. How's that? Yeah, I consider myself a road man for the lords of karma."
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Well I assure you that all those who have ever achieved anything great have run their fair share of "stop signs." How many "stop signs" did Bill Gates have to run?
Hunter S. Thompson, author of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas," had this to say on morality when asked the following question in a Salon.com interview before his death:
But speaking of rules, you've been arrested dozens of times in your life. Specific incidents aside, what's common to these run-ins? Where do you stand vis-à-vis the law?
"Goddammit. Yeah, I have. First, there's a huge difference between being arrested and being guilty. Second, see, the law changes and I don't. How I stand vis-à-vis the law at any given moment depends on the law. The law can change from state to state, from nation to nation, from city to city. I guess I have to go by a higher law. How's that? Yeah, I consider myself a road man for the lords of karma."
I said this earlier and it is basically the same thing Hunter Expressed:
Morality,completely subjective and relative in nature, more often than not, stifles technological and scientific advancement.
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Adonis, I think now would be a good time to clarify your overall objective here on the boards.
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I am at work Moron.
I do not have time to go into great detail...I am just providing basically the first thing I see as I do not have adequate time to debate the issue, but what I do post will tide them over until I get home.
I have some of Mengele`s papers by the way.
You have got to be kidding me. I am absolutely stunned that you would suggest that you are in possession of Mengele's research. I am not going to waste any more time with this, good luck with your lawsuit and making people with extra chromosomes look good.
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Well I assure you that all those who have ever achieved anything great have run their fair share of "stop signs." How many "stop signs" did Bill Gates have to run?
Hunter S. Thompson, author of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas," had this to say on morality when asked the following question in a Salon.com interview before his death:
But speaking of rules, you've been arrested dozens of times in your life. Specific incidents aside, what's common to these run-ins? Where do you stand vis-à-vis the law?
"Goddammit. Yeah, I have. First, there's a huge difference between being arrested and being guilty. Second, see, the law changes and I don't. How I stand vis-à-vis the law at any given moment depends on the law. The law can change from state to state, from nation to nation, from city to city. I guess I have to go by a higher law. How's that? Yeah, I consider myself a road man for the lords of karma."
I agree the Mr. Gates had to run stop signs, and that it is often necessary to get where it is you want to go if you want great things. However, I do not believe murder is justified on that road. If that makes me a prisoner of morality, then I am a happy inmate.
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Adonis, I think now would be a good time to clarify your overall objective here on the boards.
I don`t have one. Why must I have one?
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You have got to be kidding me. I am absolutely stunned that you would suggest that you are in possession of Mengele's research. I am not going to waste any more time with this, good luck with your lawsuit and making people with extra chromosomes look good.
Oh, you will be stunned even more in a couple of days...
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TA is shitting his pants.. ;D
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Monster subject change on T.A's part
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Adonis, I think now would be a good time to clarify your overall objective here on the boards.
What do you know about his overall objective McFarland?
YIP
Zack
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Who is going to protect you Adonis? The squad already trembles and dare not post in this thread. Jezebelle already deflated from your exhausive attemps.
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Who is going to protect you Adonis? The squad already trembles and dare not post in this thread. Jezebelle already deflated from your exhausive attemps.
hahaha brilliant post.
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I will not stop.
I have done nothing wrong.
Christianity in itself is a lie as it is and I will go to court to justify that as that is what his website rests upon.
Furthermore, he is defaming Kevin Levrone and the IFBB as well as the Weiders by the shit spouted on his site.
He has no chance in hell at accomplishing anything and I invite him to try.
I will slay this in one fell keystroke or two.
No contest.
Listen I Believe TA when he says he's in possession of some quantity of Mengeles research...
Hell I believe he is the RESULT of mengeles research...
some form of cross breeding a rat with a human of some sort....
Ever watch the movie Island of Dr. Moreau..sure, I know you guys have seen that one..
Also more recently that episode of Scare Tactics where that little rat man was running around the medical reserach lab scaring the beJesus out of a fruity volunteer....
I see a resemblance there guys!!
Seriously TA......In your own interest, you might want to change your avatar..it is showing your gene pool a little too much...I can almost see your whiskers twitch as you "challenge everyone to a duel"
it's kinda creepy.....
just trying to help you out for the fight ahead
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I did some research on Mengele several years ago.
The guy was a psycho, and nothing but a pseudo-scientist, at best.
Mengele did his notorious twin experiments at Auschwitz.
One of these experiments was to surgically connect a pair of infant Jewish twins, to see how that would turn out. Connecting veins, arteries and intestines.
The twins didn't die during surgery, but were literally a mess, a bloodied mess, agonied, only kept alive by IV's.
The twins were killed by their parents in mercy.
There are many other stories just like this one that can be subscribed to Joseph Mengele.
His "science" didn't lead to anything.
The Nazi Health Care Reform was the first anti-smoking campaign that I know of, and first widespread health campaign on that level.
But I don't see any connection between that and the crimes against humanity that Mengele committed.
His acts of sadism are well known. Before sending a group of rabbis to gas chamber, he had them dance before him.
To even suggest that Mengele was a credible scientist is laughable, and borders on revisionism.
YIP
Zack
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I did some research on Mengele several years ago.
The guy was a psycho, and nothing but a pseudo-scientist, at best.
Mengele did his notorious twin experiments at Auschwitz.
One of these experiments was to surgically connect a pair of infant Jewish twins, to see how that would turn out. Connecting veins, arteries and intestines.
The twins didn't die during surgery, but were literally a mess, a bloodied mess, agonied, only kept alive by IV's.
The twins were killed by their parents in mercy.
There are many other stories just like this one that can be subscribed to Joseph Mengele.
His "science" didn't lead to anything.
The Nazi Health Care Reform was the first anti-smoking campaign that I know of, and first widespread health campaign on that level.
But I don't see any connection between that and the crimes against humanity that Mengele committed.
His acts of sadism are well known. Before sending a group of rabbis to gas chamber, he had them dance before him.
To even suggest that Mengele was a credible scientist is laughable, and borders on revisionism.
YIP
Zack
Nice work man thanks for the good info, so in another words Ta aspire to be The New Mengele?
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Nice work man thanks for the good info, so in another words Ta aspire to be The New Mengele?
I'm not going to do any such judgements.
But I think it's important that it is perfectly clear to everyone what kind of person Mengele was.
Mengele quite possibly, is one of the worst war criminals in the history of mankind.
We are only lucky he didn't have the influence of someone like Pol Pot, Kim Il-Sung or Josef Stalin.
Now his sadism was kept within Auschwitz.
The victims of his torture are mostly dead, those few who survived tells stories that are so extreme that one cannot possibly think how someone could create such evil.
One man could.
He was the Angel of Death. Joseph Mengele.
Now Adonis is claiming to have some of Mengele's papers.
With all due respect, I'm not sure Adonis understands all that much of the Nazi era in Germany.
YIP
Zack
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I did some research on Mengele several years ago.
The guy was a psycho, and nothing but a pseudo-scientist, at best.
Mengele did his notorious twin experiments at Auschwitz.
One of these experiments was to surgically connect a pair of infant Jewish twins, to see how that would turn out. Connecting veins, arteries and intestines.
The twins didn't die during surgery, but were literally a mess, a bloodied mess, agonied, only kept alive by IV's.
The twins were killed by their parents in mercy.
There are many other stories just like this one that can be subscribed to Joseph Mengele.
His "science" didn't lead to anything.
The Nazi Health Care Reform was the first anti-smoking campaign that I know of, and first widespread health campaign on that level.
But I don't see any connection between that and the crimes against humanity that Mengele committed.
His acts of sadism are well known. Before sending a group of rabbis to gas chamber, he had them dance before him.
To even suggest that Mengele was a credible scientist is laughable, and borders on revisionism.
YIP
Zack
that's what happens when you get a bunch of Occult obsessed Nazi's running around ...
and guess what? we got a bunch of nazi docs who came over to the US (similar to Mengele) when the CIA was formed..
just great, huh??
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I agree the Mr. Gates had to run stop signs, and that it is often necessary to get where it is you want to go if you want great things. However, I do not believe murder is justified on that road. If that makes me a prisoner of morality, then I am a happy inmate.
I wasn't implying that I think Craig's actions were necessarily justified...but I can't assume I know enough about the situation to know better than Craig whether or not he deserves to be punished. That's what will ultimately decide how much he pays, IMO. Craig knows on some level whether or not his actions were worthy of punishment.
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I'm not going to do any such judgements.
But I think it's important that it is perfectly clear to everyone what kind of person Mengele was.
Mengele quite possibly, is one of the worst war criminals in the history of mankind.
We are only lucky he didn't have the influence of someone like Pol Pot, Kim Il-Sung or Josef Stalin.
Now his sadism was kept within Auschwitz.
The victims of his torture are mostly dead, those few who survived tells stories that are so extreme that one cannot possibly think how someone could create such evil.
One man could.
He was the Angel of Death. Joseph Mengele.
Now Adonis is claiming to have some of Mengele's papers.
With all due respect, I'm not sure Adonis understands all that much of the Nazi era in Germany.
YIP
Zack
Ta actions speak by it self but I have to applaud you for setting him nicely prior to you last 2 post ;D
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Hes certaily not going to come after you physically...he posted the damn thing out in the open, that would be stupid on his part. Hes going to attack you legally....
What the hell are you talking about bro, the guy is titus's friend.... amybe his old ass pal. He cant be that smart, if what TA is saying is true. And look at ol' craigers hes not the brightest tool in the shed, maybe this guy would try to murder TA Craiger style... leave a huge trail. Just a thought... Good luck TA. Hey muscle mission guy did you get the rest of Craigs stash and is that why your so crazy, cause we all know Titus had to have had some good shit if he thought he could get away with all of this....
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THIS JUST IN:
Adonis is an Idiot.
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DarthMuscle's recent revelation that True Adonis is Adam Abeles from High Point, NC (see thread on G&O) adds an interesting twist to this whole saga.
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I don't get it? this musclemissions guy is using posts from a mesage board as his evidence?? can't adonis just say someone else hacked his account or he forgot to log off and someone else said those thing, is there any real way of proving that he said it anyways??
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Did musclemissions get permission from getbig.com to use its webforum for musclemissions site? I mean if joey steals my lifting belt, I can't go into his house and steal it back to show the cops... Get what I'm sayin?
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All you have to do is glance at his site to realize this "musclemissions" guy is a full-on nutcase. Seriously, read it... he makes 240's conspiracy theories seem sane.
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All you have to do is glance at his site to realize this "musclemissions" guy is a full-on nutcase. Seriously, read it... he makes 240's conspiracy theories seem sane.
Agreed. There are some far out claims on there.
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With all due respect to these arguments people are failing to see the impact of cultural processes. National Socialism should not be glamorized. You can find a so-called "good" in anything if you look hard enough. During this period of cultural totalitarianism many horrible things happened that would make outsiders ashamed of the human species. However, Hitler and his other cronies were a victim of a backward ideology that had to be shown to be negative in its consequences. Just because Hitler might not have been a complete dolt does not excuse the fact that he had no moral backbone. You can be intellectually wise but emotionally stupid. No man is an island but collectively the Nazis demonstrated evil on a mass scale. Unfortunately, some Governments are still trying to use these outdated and backward forms of politics today (i.e. North Korea). Eventually these will also fail because they aren't as good as other forms of Government. On morality: Actually morality is not just what you like. Morality has an objective basis because the results of morality produce higher quality. For instance, a person who murders someone or someone who cheats on his wife will incur more suffering than a person who tries to do good for others, gives to chairty or whatever.
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I have some of Mengele`s papers by the way.
& where did they come from?