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Title: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:15:25 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Laura Lee on November 25, 2006, 07:18:11 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
You need to break your membership to Curves.  ;)


Just kidding...you are definitely right though.   :-\   But, as long as you are doing what needs to be done...don't worry about the other idiots.   ;)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SS on November 25, 2006, 07:19:02 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
isn't that the truth!
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Debussey on November 25, 2006, 07:20:24 AM
 :-X

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/455315/2/istockphoto_455315_athlete_weightlifting.jpg)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SS on November 25, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
Q tom/darth......." how would you know, you are a 14 school kid" ::)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Debussey on November 25, 2006, 07:21:27 AM
 :-X :-X

(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_621.jpg)
(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_629.jpg)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:21:55 AM
You need to break your membership to Curves.  ;)


Just kidding...you are definitely right though.   :-\   But, as long as you are doing what needs to be done...don't worry about the other idiots.   ;)
i'm only a few years younger than Mike, ask him what gyms used to be like in the mid to late 80's, that's when i got started.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dan18 on November 25, 2006, 07:22:05 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
ITS business gym owners need to bring in the regular people...And thats just what planet fitness is doing sad but true..
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Laura Lee on November 25, 2006, 07:22:51 AM
i'm only a few years younger than Mike, ask him what gyms used to be like in the mid to late 80's, that's when i got started.
I don't have to ask him, lol.  I know.  ;)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 07:23:00 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.

I disagree with you on the headphones and some machines are designed to target the correct muscle group. I love the unilateral press machines.  You get to add plates, you can max out without the need for  a spotter. They are great for drop sets.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:23:10 AM
:-X :-X

(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_621.jpg)
(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_629.jpg)
i've got no problem with her, she can train in my gym anytime, the problem is when you have "men" using that type of weight.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SS on November 25, 2006, 07:26:07 AM
the way i look at it sars is like being out and seeing a poser it just one less puke to worry about, and it makes us look that much better.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 07:28:04 AM
:-X :-X

(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_621.jpg)
(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_629.jpg)


she is wearing too much clothes to properly train and maximze hypertrophy.

I have it when girls with a decent body cover it up in the gym
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 25, 2006, 07:35:52 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
Point taken. Just means that I can go about my routine without these people underfoot. The last few years have seen, maybe 5 times, the need to share a squat rack.  :)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:36:59 AM
Point taken. Just means that I can go about my routine without these people underfoot. The last few years have seen, maybe 5 times, the need to share a squat rack.  :)
except for the little bitches using the racks for 55 pound barbell curls and 65 pound upright rows. ::)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Dballn247 on November 25, 2006, 07:44:47 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.

I know exactly what you mean.  I have had to join a different local gym for a year for the physical therapy after I herniated my L5-S1.  I know that everyone has to start somewhere but it seems that all of these people have a big case of the gay.  Now that I am back to my local gym I feel much more at home.  The typical meatheads with anti social personalities who dont acknowledge anyone without a physique.  I dont mind it because that is what I am used to, no fancy machines and no Frat kids.  Only prob though is that most of the women (other than the bodybuilder fangirls) who train here are Builders too and most of them are scary looking.  But it is a tool free environment.  It feels good to be home.

Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Stark on November 25, 2006, 07:45:33 AM
:-X :-X

(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_621.jpg)
(http://www.e-weightloss-fitness.com/arm_exercises/images/weightloss_diet_629.jpg)

What the f**k is this?



The typical meatheads with anti social personalities who dont acknowledge anyone without a physique

HAHAHA brilliant
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:48:03 AM
I know exactly what you mean.  I have had to join a different local gym for a year for the physical therapy after I herniated my L7-S1.  I know that everyone has to start somewhere but it seems that all of these people have a big case of the gay.  Now that I am back to my local gym I feel much more at home.  The typical meatheads with anti social personalities who dont acknowledge anyone without a physique.  I dont mind it because that is what I am used to, no fancy machines and no Frat kids.  Only prob though is that most of the women (other than the bodybuilder fangirls) who train here are Builders too and most of them are scary looking.  But it is a tool free environment.  It feels good to be home.


God i wish we had a gym like that around here, my old gym was like that, these fagggots were weeded out quick in that place, 200lb. db's, Monolift, powerlifting bars, i knew an APF champion 242 PL'er who said that if you couldn't bench press at least 405 he wouldn't even acknowkedge your existence.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 07:58:15 AM
i forgot the best one, too many supplements and not enough food.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: NJ_Slinky on November 25, 2006, 08:19:50 AM
God i wish we had a gym like that around here, my old gym was like that, these fagggots were weeded out quick in that place, 200lb. db's, Monolift, powerlifting bars, i knew an APF champion 242 PL'er who said that if you couldn't bench press at least 405 he wouldn't even acknowkedge your existence.

Interesting.  My old gym, if you didn't compete on stage, you were just a typical lifter.  Even worse, if you were on gear and never stepped foot on stage, you would be the punchline of all things lazy, coward, excuses, etc.... God help the PL'ers who stopped by for a daily and didn't blow the doors off all the guys (never happened), especially if he was chemically enhanced.

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except for the little bitches using the racks for 55 pound barbell curls and 65 pound upright rows.

LOL, love this.
 
 
 
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 08:22:01 AM
Interesting.  My old gym, if you didn't compete on stage, you were just a typical lifter.  Even worse, if you were on gear and never stepped foot on stage, you would be the punchline of all things lazy, coward, excuses, etc.... God help the PL'ers who stopped by for a daily and didn't blow the doors off all the guys (never happened), especially if he was chemically enhanced.

LOL, love this.
 
 
 

believe me this guy would absolutely destroy anyone in your gym gauranteed, he totalled 2400 plus in the mid 90's when hardly anyone was doing that.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: NJ_Slinky on November 25, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
I'm going to say this, I "blame" Hollywood for the current state.  The '80s had Arnold, Stallone, Van Dam etc... as super heroes and young guys wanted to mimic this trend.  It was the first time muscle became a focal point and enhanced by the "me" mentality of the decade.

Also, the physiques of that era were thought to be a tangible goal.  A low dosage and the knowledge of a high protein diet allowed so many to have the full pecs, 18"+ arms, lat spread and vascularity.  Were they close to looking like the top 50 pro's, not even close, but it appeared as though that bridge wasn't too far to cross.  Today, the top 50 pro's are freaky huge and appear to be morphed in all the magazine's editorials, clearly showing how unattainable it is for those not willing to put their lives on the line.  Hollywood focuses on the "regular Joe" physique as the super hero thus creating a new trend.  

'85-'99 were great years for pec sweat, big traps and double steak dinner physiques.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: NJ_Slinky on November 25, 2006, 08:35:45 AM
believe me this guy would absolutely destroy anyone in your gym gauranteed, he totalled 2400 plus in the mid 90's when hardly anyone was doing that.

That's the equivalent of Dorian walking into the gym and shaming the top National in the gym to carry around his chalk.  Legends are just that in any realm.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on November 25, 2006, 08:42:44 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
agree.sarcasm
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 08:44:09 AM
except for the little bitches using the racks for 55 pound barbell curls and 65 pound upright rows. ::)

hey sarcasm, you are talking alot of smack around. Talking about some big number lifts
dear we ask you to post a pic?

now I know that I am nothing but average but I don't pretend to be anything more
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 08:46:48 AM
hey sarcasm, you are talking alot of smack around. Talking about some big number lifts
dear we ask you to post a pic?

now I know that I am nothing but average but I don't pretend to be anything more
making fun of 55 pound curls and 65 pound upright rows is talking smack about big lifts? you must be one of the "guys" that i'm talking about.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Laura Lee on November 25, 2006, 08:50:08 AM
making fun of 55 pound curls and 65 pound upright rows is talking smack about big lifts? you must be one of the "guys" that i'm talking about.
I wish I could curl 55 pounds  :D
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 09:03:21 AM
making fun of 55 pound curls and 65 pound upright rows is talking smack about big lifts? you must be one of the "guys" that i'm talking about.

I usually do supersets so by implication I am not going heavy. 55lbs db curl isn't a bad number with proper form.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on November 25, 2006, 09:05:20 AM
I usually do supersets so by implication I am not going heavy. 55lbs db curl isn't a bad number with proper form.
i meant BARBELL curl, not db, who does db curls in the squat rack?
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 09:08:39 AM
i meant BARBELL curl, not db, who does db curls in the squat rack?

actually, I also put 3 10's on each side for 10-12 rep, then drop set *no rest* all the way the down to the bar.

sorry if that sounds weak to you.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SteelePegasus on November 25, 2006, 09:10:09 AM
sorry, sarcasm, Ignore me, I am just being a prick.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MindSpin on November 25, 2006, 09:13:11 AM
i forgot the best one, too many supplements and not enough food.

No.  The best one is not enough basic training and too many "gravity suits" ::)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: TimmyToughNuts on November 25, 2006, 09:36:22 AM
Mindspin

Eugene will never see the light

years off abuse have him angry

his insecuritys have boiled over

you see on here he is what he could never be in the real world

I am sure he looks in the mirror with disgust

finds his friend online



pity
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 25, 2006, 09:38:18 AM
No.  The best one is not enough basic training and too many "gravity suits" ::)
Bwahaha. I'm waiting for the '08 model. I figure they will have gotten the bugs out of them by then and I can truly train in zero gravity without doing any real lifting.  8)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MisterMagoo on November 25, 2006, 10:26:49 AM
this is a great thread and makes a fantastic point. i recall that prior to the cell phone, no one ever sat around talking in the gym. in fact, talking was prohibited in most gyms. then people started bringing in cell phones and it all changed. suddenly everyone who for decades had been silently training so hard their blood vessels burst were now chatting. it made no damn sense!

of course, that was only half as bad as when the quarter squat was invented in 1997. most of the new kids are unaware that back in the day everyone did hardcore full squats at least twice a week. there was a big story in muscle and fitness about the creation of the quarter squat and it really changed everything. i recall that being a sad day.

yes, things certainly are different now. i think we all owe sarcasm our deepest thanks for bringing this oft-neglected issue to light. this is the first time i've ever seen anyone talk about lazy people in the gym, and this certainly does prove he's not a 14 year old kid.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: TimmyToughNuts on November 25, 2006, 10:58:01 AM
this is a great thread and makes a fantastic point. i recall that prior to the cell phone, no one ever sat around talking in the gym. in fact, talking was prohibited in most gyms. then people started bringing in cell phones and it all changed. suddenly everyone who for decades had been silently training so hard their blood vessels burst were now chatting. it made no damn sense!

of course, that was only half as bad as when the quarter squat was invented in 1997. most of the new kids are unaware that back in the day everyone did hardcore full squats at least twice a week. there was a big story in muscle and fitness about the creation of the quarter squat and it really changed everything. i recall that being a sad day.

yes, things certainly are different now. i think we all owe sarcasm our deepest thanks for bringing this oft-neglected issue to light. this is the first time i've ever seen anyone talk about lazy people in the gym, and this certainly does prove he's not a 14 year old kid.


Sir

This thread has been started numerous times by hundreds of posters

Another sad man sucking up to Eugene

A internet figure

A insecure little boy

He has finally found a home where he is accepted

with groupies like you

Men who have no guts

you should be ashamed
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alexxx on November 25, 2006, 11:19:02 AM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.

100% agree! But who will teach them? Alexxx!!
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: efirkey on November 25, 2006, 11:26:42 AM
It's actually nice to have many more options of exercises to do than there where 20 or 30 years ago.  Especially if you are working around injuries or are older and can't do basic movements as well.  But the basic exercises are still the most effective.

Times change, Fashions change, evolve or die a dinosaur.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Livewire on November 25, 2006, 11:44:56 AM
now I know that I am nothing but average but I don't pretend to be anything more

i wouldn't mind seeing you take an average leap off an unusally tall building.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: backday on November 25, 2006, 11:46:42 AM
It's actually nice to have many more options of exercises to do than there where 20 or 30 years ago.  Especially if you are working around injuries or are older and can't do basic movements as well.  But the basic exercises are still the most effective.

Times change, Fashions change, evolve or die a dinosaur.

Oh but there is not better sight than the one with an old old warrior doing heavy basics 8)
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: fathead on November 25, 2006, 11:58:45 AM
When did everything turn so fucken gay?  This metrosexual bullshit is turning dudes into a bunch of fags.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ether on November 25, 2006, 12:03:22 PM
Do they have lululemon in the states?

Any man who wears that shit is truly a fucking fag.
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: efirkey on November 25, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
Oh but there is not better sight than the one with an old old warrior doing heavy basics 8)

How many of your kind do you see out there?
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Blockhead on November 25, 2006, 12:36:22 PM
headphones, quarter reps, too many machines, too many light dumbbell movements, Aeropostale, Under Armor, cell phones, gym music, no squats, no deadlifts, no barbell shoulder presses, it's pathetic.
Great post by the HONORABLE TheSquadfather...keen observation.

 
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: backday on November 25, 2006, 12:41:24 PM
How many of your kind do you see out there?

He he not many to be honest, but when I see it is pretty cool ;D
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cavalier22 on November 25, 2006, 01:28:28 PM
i saw this father and son combo doing squats.....no joke, barely bendin their knees at all. it was such a joke.  not even half reps, little range of motion
Title: Re: The sad state of "training" these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MisterMagoo on November 25, 2006, 01:48:36 PM
Great post by the HONORABLE TheSquadfather...keen observation.

 

isn't it though? until he had the courage to say it, i had never realized that people do half-range exercises and wear trendy clothing.