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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: mgw on November 29, 2006, 12:12:43 PM
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Let's face it none of us would be on this discussion board if not for Royce in the early day's of the ufc. Anyone who grapples today can thank Royce and the Gracie family. ;D
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I agree, he played a huge part in it.. but i wouldnt give him all the credit
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Let's face it none of us would be on this discussion board if not for Royce in the early day's of the ufc. Anyone who grapples today can thank Royce and the Gracie family. ;D
I think we have to thank Rorion. He formed SEG, and put on the UFC for us to see. Vale Tudo fights were going on in Brazil prior to Royce. Carlos and Relio were already doing it before Relio's son was put into the spotlight on his brother's show.
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I think we have to thank Rorion. He formed SEG, and put on the UFC for us to see. Vale Tudo fights were going on in Brazil prior to Royce. Carlos and Relio were already doing it before Relio's son was put into the spotlight on his brother's show.
Agreed. At that time, when most martial artists were clueless about grappling, Rorian could've put almost any BJJ blackbelt in there and the results would've been the same. It just happened to be Royce.
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They initially wanted Rickson to fight (which would have been awesome), but Rickson wanted more money. I attended a Rickson seminar in 1995, after two days, he rolled with all 150 of us, submitted all of us within 4 minutes. Egan Inoue lasted the longest.
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Rorion spent years trying to popularize Gracie JJ before the first UFC. He promoted the Gracie Challenge against all takers.
Royce is giving a seminar at my friend's school next week...3 months after Ive moved :'(
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he'd be up there, don't forget bruce lee, chuck norris, O-sensei, just having influence in the general public
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They initially wanted Rickson to fight (which would have been awesome), but Rickson wanted more money. I attended a Rickson seminar in 1995, after two days, he rolled with all 150 of us, submitted all of us within 4 minutes. Egan Inoue lasted the longest.
That's awesome.
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They initially wanted Rickson to fight (which would have been awesome), but Rickson wanted more money. I attended a Rickson seminar in 1995, after two days, he rolled with all 150 of us, submitted all of us within 4 minutes. Egan Inoue lasted the longest.
PArtially true. They picked Royce too cause he was the smallest. They wanted to prove that size meant nothing to Gracie Jiu Jitsu. I am pretty sure that I trained with Rorian before anyone on here since they had just moved to Torrance a couple years before. But my ADD probably played an imporatnt part why I didn't stick with it as much as they wanted me too. Their first promo video featured one of my best friends Craig Kukuk who I introduced to Rorian and he fell in love with it and later became the first american GJJ black belt. We took class in Rorian's two car garage then afterwards ate weird food. Kev, do you remember when Rickson came to Honolulu and did the exhibition at City Hall lawn. DO any of you remember when Rorian put an add calling out all Navy Seals. Or the underground matches they would throw around Southern Cal taking on all challegers. One guy kept getting choke out in front of his karate class and kept coming back for more thinking he figured them out. He lost everytime. Many stories from back in 1986 and 87
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PArtially true. They picked Royce too cause he was the smallest. They wanted to prove that size meant nothing to Gracie Jiu Jitsu. I am pretty sure that I trained with Rorian before anyone on here since they had just moved to Torrance a couple years before. But my ADD probably played an imporatnt part why I didn't stick with it as much as they wanted me too. Their first promo video featured one of my best friends Craig Kukuk who I introduced to Rorian and he fell in love with it and later became the first american GJJ black belt. We took class in Rorian's two car garage then afterwards ate weird food. Kev, do you remember when Rickson came to Honolulu and did the exhibition at City Hall lawn. DO any of you remember when Rorian put an add calling out all Navy Seals. Or the underground matches they would throw around Southern Cal taking on all challegers. One guy kept getting choke out in front of his karate class and kept coming back for more thinking he figured them out. He lost everytime. Many stories from back in 1986 and 87
I got a copy of Gracies in Action in 1990. It was a well used VHS tape that too many people had watched and was beginning to show it's age. I must have watched that thing like 100 times. Soon thereafter, Relson set up shop at the University of Hawaii. I was taking Muay Thai from Master Kham, and BJJ was held right next door at UH. Not to long after, Rorion, Relson and some skinny brazillian half brother shows up at our Wing Chun school to "demonstrate" their art, they took all of us down, slapped us till we gave up our backs and choked everyone out. I was hooked. There was a hapkido instructor, Kempo instructor and of course, Jason Delucia (Five animal Kung Fu, Aikido) who was made famous, then reappeared at UFC and get arm barred. Paul Vunak, one of my many JKDC insructors was an original student of Rorion in his garage around 1987. He and Tom Cruse (not the short one) began extolling the virtues of BJJ to everyone soon thereafter.
After the seminar at Kaiser High School, there was a falling out between Relson and Egan, and the Inoue/Gracie fued began. To think that Relson could have had all the great fighters still in his camp. Fighters like Enson, Egan, Kendall Goo, Baret Yoshida, Cabbage Correira (originally a GU fighter), Falaniko Vitale (originally a GU fighter). I still train at a Relson Gracie association to this day.
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Good stories. Here's mine:
I always had an interest in grappling. Did some wrestling in high school, but nothing serious. In 1985, Gene Lebell's book, "Wrestling Finishing Holds" came out. I read it over and over. While I learned a lot of cool holds, there was no system described pertaining to positions: their hiarchy and how to acheive them.
Fast forward to the UFC, I watched, and, like everyone, was amazed by Royce. I was especially floored when he beat Dan Severn, a wrestler, and a big one. At that point, I knew I had to learn that stuff, but, unfortunately, BJJ, wasn't being taught anywhere in my area, New York City.
My break came in 1996, when Renzo Gracie moved to the states, an opened a school in NYC. In a case of Getbig Six Degrees of Separation, Renzo's partner was Onlyme's friend Craig Kukuk, who had been already training students in a Karate school for a few months.
The first guy I ever rolled with was one of Craig's students by the name of Matt Serra. Within seconds of our "match" Matt had me mounted, and I was wondering what the hell I had gotten myself into. Another guy who started at the same time as I did, was "New Zealand John Danaher, who went on to write the book, "BJJ Theory and Technique" and is now GSP's grappling instructor. The early days there were awesome. It was just a few of us sitting in a circle with Craig or Renzo. Now, I go in there, and I hardly recognize anyone.
Anyway, little by little I learned and, ten years later, I still don't know shiit. That's the thing that surprises almost everyone when they start out: the complexity of jiu jitsu.
While I'm well aware that I'll never win the Mundials or the UFC title, I've had a blast learning BJJ and hope to continue doing so for the rest of my life.
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But that's what makes Music MMA and BB my favorite hobbies cause u can never know it all. As much a master u become u are still a new student I love it!
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Let's face it none of us would be on this discussion board if not for Royce in the early day's of the ufc. Anyone who grapples today can thank Royce and the Gracie family. ;D
he was the worst thing to ever happen to ufc.people pay to see a fight, not gay man sex with elbows ;)