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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Voice of Doom on December 06, 2006, 12:58:27 PM
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Actually, that's the question...I don't know. The group of bb's he was with took gear, but Zane never looks huge to me. Seems he went for more of a shredded look than most muscular. Anyone have info on his cycles?
It seems like these days Zane and his wife promote a "healthy" lifestyle...at least according to their website.
Any info?
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Actually, that's the question...I don't know. The group of bb's he was with took gear, but Zane never looks huge to me. Seems he went for more of a shredded look than most muscular. Anyone have info on his cycles?
It seems like these days Zane and his wife promote a "healthy" lifestyle...at least according to their website.
Any info?
If Zane ever juiced then that is the smallest bodybuilder I have ever seen!
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Zane had all the tools but coulldnt build anything bigger than a shoebox....
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so...he was juiced but unable to add mass? How is that? Does it have to do with skeletal structure?
maybe he was getting the "placebo"?
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so...he was juiced but unable to add mass? How is that? Does it have to do with skeletal structure?
maybe he was getting the "placebo"?
laziness mostly.
followed by poor diet.
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Actually, that's the question...I don't know. The group of bb's he was with took gear, but Zane never looks huge to me. Seems he went for more of a shredded look than most muscular. Anyone have info on his cycles?
It seems like these days Zane and his wife promote a "healthy" lifestyle...at least according to their website.
Any info?
His nickname was "The Chemist".
Is that answer enough?
YIP
Zack
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Most people would rather look like Zane than some bloated red powerlifter.
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he ate like a bird from what i've read
something around 2000 cals a day..and lower during his contest prep
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His nickname was "The Chemist".
Is that answer enough?
YIP
Zack
He was called that for some other reason, at least that what they said. In Flex he said his stack was 100mg Primo weekly plus 10mg d-bol perday.
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I would love to look like Zane. 5'9 and 1/2, 185 pounds, shredded. I heard he once got up to a very cut 208 too.
So start training like him and eating like him and you will resemble him! Tiss true!
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nicknamed the "chemist"??? HAHAHA
so much for his "healthy" lifestyle...maybe he's into health now that he suffering the consequences?
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it would take me two weeks of dieting to look like Zane if i wanted to...but i have more mass than he can dream of ...
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He trained hard, but from what I read, he ate like a bird. His whole diet for the day during contest prep was like a bran muffin and a light beer lol. He seemed to respond to minimal AAS use very well. He would probably have been 170 without gear, but just because he wouldn't have been much without gear doesn't mean I could be anything close to his size on gear. I wish.
You can do it naturally. Just focus more on your balance.
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3 times mr olympia ???
(http://www.ironman-israel.com/gallery/zane_frank/zane_frank_11.jpg)
(http://www.bbcenter.sk/images/gallery/mr_olympia/frank/frank09.jpg)
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The funny thing is, 99 percent of the people who talk shat about Zane would be killed by him on stage. Yeah, the guy was small. But in his day he was not. There are people who call for Dex to be mr o. Even for Vic. Vic is what 235 - 240 ? So when Ronnie competed against Vic he outweighed him by 50 lbs. When Ronnie competes against Dex he outweighs him by 70 pounds. Arnold ( the biggest guy of his day) outweighed Zane by 45 lbs.
::)
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it would take me two weeks of dieting to look like Zane if i wanted to...but i have more mass than he can dream of ...
LMAO. Not even close.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/zanecolor.jpg)
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Realistically, what do you guys think Zane's stats would have been? Chest, arms, legs, calves, etc.
Small... 17 inch arms etc etc.
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Frank zanes stats at an acurate guestimate:
chest: 40 inches
waist: 27 inches
arms: 16 inches
legs: 20 inches
calves: 15 inches
neck: 12 inches
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LMAO. Not even close.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/zanecolor.jpg)
that is a drawing...
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no it's not.
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painted on top of a real photo...
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proof?
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His nickname was "The Chemist".
Is that answer enough?
YIP
Zack
He was ahead of the game when it came to pre contest prep, supps, and chemicals.
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His nickname was "The Chemist".
Is that answer enough?
YIP
Zack
You fool. He was given that name for his teaching of High School Chemistry.
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lol, that's right.
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he ate like a bird from what i've read
something around 2000 cals a day..and lower during his contest prep
You are an idiot. That is plenty to grow on.
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He was ahead of the game when it came to pre contest prep, supps, and chemicals.
He never did cardio during contest prep. Ate Danish cakes and drank bottles of wine all the way until contest. Also ate a lot of cheese.
He knew the secrets like I do.
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He never did cardio during contest prep. Ate Danish cakes and drank bottles of wine all the way until contest. Also ate a lot of cheese.
He knew the secrets like I do.
why aren't you as lean as he was ?
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You fool. He was given that name for his teaching of High School Chemistry.
Yeah... That's precisely why he was called "The Chemist"... 8)
YIP
Zack
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why aren't you as lean as he was ?
I am right now. Leaner actually. You will see.
I was too fat from April to be leaner than Zane in September. ITs hard to go from 40 percent bodyfat to 4 in a few months. But now it takes me like 2-3 weeks since I am lean as fuck.
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His nickname was the chemist...should be plenty of proof for you right there.
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Yeah... That's precisely why he was called "The Chemist"... 8)
YIP
Zack
It is precisely why. His students gave him that name.
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Education
He received a B.Sc. (Bachelor of Science degree) in Education from Wilkes University in Wilkes Barre, Pa in 1964. Later he earned a B.A. (Bachelor of Arts degree) in psychology from California State University, Los Angeles in 1977. Finally, he was awarded a Master degree in Experimental Psychology from California State University San Bernardino, California in 1990.
[edit] Bodybuilding career
Zane is a 3-time Mr. Olympia (1977 to 1979). His reign represented a shift of emphasis from mass to aesthetics and his physique is still regarded by some as the ideal in bodybuilding. Zane's proportionate physique featured the thinnest waistline of all the Mr. Olympias with his wide shoulders making for a beautiful V-taper. He stood at 5'9" and had a competition weight of 180 pounds. Zane is one of only three people who have beaten Arnold Schwarzenegger in a bodybuilding contest and one of the very few Mr. Olympias' under 200 pounds. He published many books about bodybuilding. He is often accused of overly focusing on meditation and relaxation rather than emphasizing on the 'core' bodybuilding techniques. He received the Arnold Schwarzenegger lifetime achievement award at the 2003 Arnold Classic for his dedication and long-time support of the sport.
He was given the nickname "The Chemist" due to his Bachelor of Science degree.
In the 1980s, Frank owned and ran a gym in Palm Springs, Ca. He was focusing on personal training. He now lives in San Diego with his wife Christine.
In 2005, Frank Zane played the IFBB Announcer and worked as the consulting producer in the movie "See Arnold Run." As of 2006, Zane currently runs his own website, appears at seminars and book signings, and offers personal weightlifting sessions with his program called "The Zane Experience" in San Diego.
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I am right now. Leaner actually. You will see.
I was too fat from April to be leaner than Zane in September. ITs hard to go from 40 percent bodyfat to 4 in a few months. But now it takes me like 2-3 weeks since I am lean as f**k.
post pictures then :)
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post pictures then :)
Perhaps you should wait until the ADONIS and DADDYWADDY video comes out.
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You are an idiot. That is plenty to grow on.
thats why you claim to sometimes eat as much as 5000 cals in one sitting?
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Perhaps you should wait until the ADONIS and DADDYWADDY video comes out.
i'm not sure i need to point out what's terrible and wrong with this.
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thats why you claim to sometimes eat as much as 5000 cals in one sitting?
I do. Not for growth. Just because I can and want to.
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I do. Not for growth. Just because I can and want to.
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it's amazing that someone who had about 50% bodyfat at one point now brags about how he can eat cartons of ice cream and pizza without getting fat. you a "chemistry teacher" too?
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it's amazing that someone who had about 50% bodyfat at one point now brags about how he can eat cartons of ice cream and pizza without getting fat. you a "chemistry teacher" too?
No.
I purposely got fat. I wanted to test a theory and I was correct. I have to work HARD to get fat. Eating over 5-8000 calories a day, for months and months on end.
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I wanted to test a theory and I was correct.
What theory was that?
YIP
Zack
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What theory was that?
YIP
Zack
Too many to list.
But I will give you one. The fact that I lost NO MUSCLE dieting down.
I am eating over 3000 calories daily and eating up to 8000 on some days and I have not gained any supposed "lost" muscle that you queers think I lost.
I lost none. I know EXACTLY what I can eat and how much to not gain a single ounce of fat. Its too easy.
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Too many to list.
But I will give you one. The fact that I lost NO MUSCLE dieting down.
I am eating over 3000 calories daily and eating up to 8000 on some days and I have not gained any supposed "lost" muscle that you queers think I lost.
I lost none. I know EXACTLY what I can eat and how much to not gain a single ounce of fat. Its too easy.
Stupid and delusional!
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Stupid and delusional!
Like your existance. You were fat as a child and now you are struggling to shed the fat off of your legs. You also realize that your uppper body would make a horrific sculpture.
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He was called that for some other reason, at least that what they said. In Flex he said his stack was 100mg Primo weekly plus 10mg d-bol perday.
Frank had advanced degrees and was a high school teacher. Either chemistry or math.
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I would love to look like Zane. 5'9 and 1/2, 185 pounds, shredded. I heard he once got up to a very cut 208 too.
When Zane beat Arnold in Miami in 1968 I think Frank was heavier than in his Olympia days.
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Look at your unaesthetic trashcaniness.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1758&d=1164660396)
Then look at a real work of art/sculpture.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=105125.0;attach=116289;image)
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Look at your unaesthetic trashcaniness.
Then look at a real work of art/sculpture.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=105125.0;attach=116289;image)
It's an interesting comparison.
YIP
Zack
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alex owns your rat faced ass TA
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alex owns your rat faced ass TA
Actually, alexx for all the bullshit he talks, has a good and narrow waistline.
Have to admit that. :-\
YIP
Zack
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alexxx's wheels and waste are alot better, he's just too tall to pack on any real mass.
He thinks he looks better than he does, but he doesnt look to bad for a "normal" guy.
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He thinks he looks better than he does, but he doesnt look to bad for a "normal" guy.
Well, he wasn't called "The Chemist" for no reason.
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???
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hahaha poor adonis. He could probably do really well against a pole though or bast's legs in this instance.
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Hard to tell who smokes King Alexxx more... Adonis or a 15 yr old.
Zane looks natural for this day and age, but there's alot more knowledge out now than when he was competing.
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If by knowledge you mean drugs.
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Like your existance. You were fat as a child and now you are struggling to shed the fat off of your legs. You also realize that your uppper body would make a horrific sculpture.
hahahaha self owning of epic proportions! Wrong on both accounts!
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If by knowledge you mean drugs.
Little from column A, little from column B. I'd say that Zane knew he didn't have the best structure and since the emphasis was on keeping a small waist, he didn't bother trying to play the mass game anymore than he needed to.
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Apparently, back in the day Zane was referred to as "The Chemist". This should give you an idea of his drug usage.
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Apparently, back in the day Zane was referred to as "The Chemist". This should give you an idea of his drug usage.
haha, he was called the chemist because he was a teacher.
BTW, alexxx owns TA in every way.
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:o
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:o
Frank looks light years ahead of todays pro's. Bodybuilding sucks compared to what it used to be.
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T.A you truly have a hideous structure,even alex blows you away and he's just a lanky streak of unblessed piss
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alex needs a tan and he'd be golden...
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If he really weights' 185 how much can arnold weight he claimed 245
if he's was six one or shorter it's probaly was a bit less
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Frank looks light years ahead of todays pro's.
In what way?
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Zane looks like a f**king statue.
He actually was an artist - that is, he sculpted his body.
Today's pros just pile on as much mass as possible.
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that could be zane at his biggest contest shape,great overall physique,i don't know but he has some very slight swelling in his chest ,light gyno?
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Frank had advanced degrees and was a high school teacher. Either chemistry or math.
It was in math, they called him the Chemist for "other reasons".....do you actually think they are going to put on his bio the real reason they called him the chemist?
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LMAO. Not even close.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/zanecolor.jpg)
Is this the uncle from Napolean Dynamite?
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sauced to the gills.
...but remember, he wasn't a genetically huge framed guy anyway.
...but still- awesome, classic physique.
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sauced to the gills.
Doesn't look like a heavy user to me. I don't have problems believing the 100mg Primo and 10mg D-bol. But you never know.
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Arnold was at his biggest 6'1" 235 pounds and four inches taller than zane
so take 30 pounds off his weight and he only outweight's zane by 20. Arnold had genetic's on his side too so it's not unbelivable that there were using similiar dosages.
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as natural as nutrasweet.
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I have personally talked to Frank & started talking about the darkside of bodybuilding.
When put directly on the spot Frank did not deny use...just simply stated that he's no longer involved in bodybuilding.
I found his reply kind of funny actually & at that point I had mentioned to him that I respect what he brought to bodybuilding in terms of aesthetics & conditioning....his reply was "thanks" & basically said he had to get going.
;D
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I have personally talked to Frank & started talking about the darkside of bodybuilding.
When put directly on the spot Frank did not deny use...just simply stated that he's no longer involved in bodybuilding.
I found his reply kind of funny actually & at that point I had mentioned to him that I respect what he brought to bodybuilding in terms of aesthetics & conditioning....his reply was "thanks" & basically said he had to get going.
;D
I've heard this about Zane..very to himself..and not outgoing at all...pretty laid back...if you ever saw the show The GYM on FitTV...Zane does some presentation at the owner's gym and the owner is pretty pissed because Zane was pretty boring (paraphrasing)..then he had Zane at some charity thing and Zane was pretty much the same way..low key and laid back...I guess the guy thought he was getting Plato mixed with Bill Clinton or something...
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I've heard this about Zane..very to himself..and not outgoing at all...pretty laid back...if you ever saw the show The GYM on FitTV...Zane does some presentation at the owner's gym and the owner is pretty pissed because Zane was pretty boring (paraphrasing)..then he had Zane at some charity thing and Zane was pretty much the same way..low key and laid back...I guess the guy thought he was getting Plato mixed with Bill Clinton or something...
Honestly...go to an expo & talk to Frank....or hell....even on the street.
He would rather talk about his music, his harmonica, his wife (Christine), her silver business, or the dogs.
Bodybuilding is something he does not want to talk about. He will talk a little about training but you can tell he wants to be paid for any information he has to say about working out.
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Honestly...go to an expo & talk to Frank....or hell....even on the street.
He would rather talk about his music, his harmonica, his wife (Christine), her silver business, or the dogs.
Bodybuilding is something he does not want to talk about. He will talk a little about training but you can tell he wants to be paid for any information he has to say about working out.
i'm pretty sure he's gets paid (or commands) about 10K a pop for his lectures/presentations...
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Honestly...go to an expo & talk to Frank....or hell....even on the street.
He would rather talk about his music, his harmonica, his wife (Christine), her silver business, or the dogs.
Bodybuilding is something he does not want to talk about. He will talk a little about training but you can tell he wants to be paid for any information he has to say about working out.
I'm thinking Frank is a bit embarrassed about his association with bodybuilding...he probably thinks everyone just sees him as some dumb meathead...
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Zane was far from natural, the reason he wasn't anything crazy was because the guy lived off of cytomel throughout the year. He killed his thyroid.
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I'm thinking Frank is a bit embarrassed about his association with bodybuilding...he probably thinks everyone just sees him as some dumb meathead...
Honestly....if you ran into him at the store....you would not even remotely recognize him.
Kind of funny actually.
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it would take me two weeks of dieting to look like Zane if i wanted to...but i have more mass than he can dream of ...
Dream on bud, dream on.
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Zane was far from natural, the reason he wasn't anything crazy was because the guy lived off of cytomel throughout the year. He killed his thyroid.
Yeah I heard the same, he loved Cytomel.
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Honestly...go to an expo & talk to Frank....or hell....even on the street.
He would rather talk about his music, his harmonica, his wife (Christine), her silver business, or the dogs.
Bodybuilding is something he does not want to talk about. He will talk a little about training but you can tell he wants to be paid for any information he has to say about working out.
Sounds like kind of a douchebag. Awesome physique nonetheless.
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Zane was far from natural, the reason he wasn't anything crazy was because the guy lived off of cytomel throughout the year. He killed his thyroid.
If he burned out his thyroid how is he able to maintain his low bf? On his website the pictures he uses ( I dont know how recently) show him still looking pretty shredded. How is this done with a thyroid problem...and if he's using meds, how come he isnt dead yet?
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I asked Zane how he trained, his diet, what drugs, etc, he said, buy my meditation course, my leg blaster, and reprints of my training and nutrition diaries, my new cd, and enrol in my training camp.
And for a mere 20k, you too can learn something that you already knew, that Zane had great aesthetics, good predisposition to get into terrific shape with diet aids, and he trained and ate like anyone else. You can eat, train and take the drugs Zane took, but thats no guarantee you'll look like him.
Am I wrong?
If the guy thinks he's to good for bbing and doesnt wanna talk about it, then he's an asshole, if its from a financial(pay & I'll talk)perspective,then I understand, but theres a limit. I used to look up to him as a kid, but he's starting to sound like a douchebag.
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Sounds like kind of a douchebag. Awesome physique nonetheless.
I'd like to clear up one thing....
He was very nice guy.
I actually had felt that maybe it was me...so I started asking some friends if they ever run into to him & they said that they had the same experience.