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Title: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Matt C on December 07, 2006, 09:51:47 PM
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 07, 2006, 09:57:59 PM
Bob was incorrectly listed as 23 at both the show and on this youtube page.  He was 24 at the time in one of the best routines I've seen:



Rich Gaspari's posing routine at the 1986 Pro World was also a knockout in my book.

Perfection!!
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: logical? on December 07, 2006, 11:03:09 PM
Bob was incorrectly listed as 23 at both the show and on this youtube page.  He was 24 at the time in one of the best routines I've seen:



Rich Gaspari's posing routine at the 1986 Pro World was also a knockout in my book.

incredible- charismatic. a simple comparison between that and this year's coleman routine should suffice to show why bodybuilding is now rejected on a widescale- it's a farce.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: shiftedShapes on December 07, 2006, 11:10:16 PM
Bob was incorrectly listed as 23 at both the show and on this youtube page.  He was 24 at the time in one of the best routines I've seen:



Rich Gaspari's posing routine at the 1986 Pro World was also a knockout in my book.

A TRUE MASTER
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: venom gang.bronze on December 07, 2006, 11:11:45 PM
incredible- charismatic. a simple comparison between that and this year's coleman routine should suffice to show why bodybuilding is now rejected on a widescale- it's a farce.
...how'd you get here, time machine?
...bbing has always been looked at as an activity of homoerotic, obsessive compulsive narcicism. from sig klein's time, grimeks time, arnolds, etc... until now- amd always will be.
...why?
..because every body builder, no matter how big, bigger, or small, represents to the avverage, untrained common man that physically, he is inferior.
rather than ask himself why he chooses a physically "subordinate" status, it is much easier to look at bbs and call them a bunch of freaks....
as he still slinks off into the bathroom at night, after playing two pump charlie with the wife, and "tries " to flex the pipestems...that he, and others of his weak willed ilk,  humorously call "arms."
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: logical? on December 07, 2006, 11:17:06 PM
...how'd you get here, time machine?
...bbing has always been looked at as an activity of homoerotic, obsessive compulsive narcicism. from sig klein's time, grimeks time, arnolds, etc... until now- amd always will be.
...why?
..because every body builder, no matter how big, bigger, or small, represents to the avverage, untrained common man that physically, he is inferior.
rather than ask himself why he chooses a physically "subordinate" status, it is much easier to look at bbs and call them a bunch of freaks....
as he still slinks off into the bathroom at night, after playing two pump charlie with the wife, and "tries " to flex the pipestems...that he, and others of his weak willed ilk,  humorously call "arms."


true, but at least the competitions were conducted with an amount of dignity and self-respect. today many of the competitors dance on stage, in costumes or with props- it's progressed far closer to some talent contest. whereas previously, the element of dignity meant that- although, like you say, it was always pageant-like- it seemed as though it was much more about showing what they had built or worked for in the gym.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: shiftedShapes on December 07, 2006, 11:19:38 PM
Imagine if all bodybuilders aspired to that level of development and presentation.  Most wouldn't make it, but the overall quality of the compettitors would be much higher
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: titusisback on December 07, 2006, 11:55:38 PM
He has a "pretty" look, but I prefer more massive bodybuilders. Check him out in 1988. You don't see anyone that "skinny" even at national level anymore.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 12:06:24 AM
The Zane of his day. And thats a compliment.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 01:28:53 AM
Extremely gay posing music in both '84 & '88; then again few BBs choose good posing music. Rather femme posing routine as well. Good physique, looked better in '88, here:

Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 01:39:31 AM
When it comes to aesthetics, Birdsong could hang with almost anyone, and had a more masculine look than Paris. Ya, the posing music's bad here, posing even worse though not as gay LOL


Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 01:45:16 AM
Extremely gay posing music in both '84 & '88; then again few BBs choose good posing music. Rather femme posing routine as well. Good physique, looked better in '88, here:



Paris was very gay, he came out way before he retired. Still, great physique. I'm sure getting pussy would have been no prob for Bob, well... :-\
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: logical? on December 08, 2006, 03:35:58 AM
Which from Paris' feminine routines or Ronnie's 'Moses' routine do you think has less dignity?
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: kyomu on December 08, 2006, 04:45:06 AM
Wow!! Thats the reason why i dont care how gay he is!
This is the ART!!
What a shame of BBing of these days. Who try to pose like this?? Nobody!
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: OneManGang on December 08, 2006, 06:00:58 AM
Wow!! Thats the reason why i dont care how gay he is!
This is the ART!!
What a shame of BBing of these days. Who try to pose like this?? Nobody!

The art of gayness.....whorshipped by a certain percentage of the population
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: nycbull on December 08, 2006, 06:11:29 AM
Birdsong, was also gay, did a gay porn movie back in the 70's with another famous bodybuilder at the time.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: natural al on December 08, 2006, 06:15:36 AM
Bob was incorrectly listed as 23 at both the show and on this youtube page.  He was 24 at the time in one of the best routines I've seen:



Rich Gaspari's posing routine at the 1986 Pro World was also a knockout in my book.

gaspari's routine at the 86 pro world was unbelievable.  I have that show on tape and watched it just the other day, just think Rich is only like 23 or 24 at that time and that is one of the best thought out and executed routines in the history of BB not to mention that his develpment at the time is just out of this world...it's incredible to see.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 06:16:48 AM
Birdsong, was also gay, did a gay porn movie back in the 70's with another famous bodybuilder at the time.

Gay for pay, not gay. He's married with kids and is a minister.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: OneManGang on December 08, 2006, 06:19:30 AM
Gay for pay, not gay. He's married with kids and is a minister.

gay for pay is still gay, only that it is not free
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: nycbull on December 08, 2006, 06:19:51 AM
Gay for pay, not gay. He's married with kids and is a minister.

Yea well I know a lot of gay men who are married. I saw the video and it wasn't a muscle worship thing it was all out sex. I doesn't matter to me. He was a good dude and bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Euro-monster on December 08, 2006, 06:28:35 AM
When it comes to aesthetics, Birdsong could hang with almost anyone, and had a more masculine look than Paris. Ya, the posing music's bad here, posing even worse though not as gay LOL




He looks more gay then Bob.... :o
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 06:43:02 AM
gay for pay is still gay, only that it is not free
In that case half of BB's gay, including Schwarzenegger, whose primary "business advisor" from the 60s onwards was gay, and who was available for high pay upon arrival in Venice in lieu of a regular job. The gay men's mags Arnold appeared in were not a stretch for Arnie; more power to him for his open-mindedness but he wasn't gay either. ;D

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gay for pay is still gay, only that it is not free
Not the same at all; BBs have done gay for pay all along, but most are not gay.

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He looks more gay then Bob....
Which one? hahahah
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 08, 2006, 06:46:59 AM
Nothing is gayer than Bob paris in the 80s.....
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: OneManGang on December 08, 2006, 06:47:41 AM
In that case half of BB's gay, including Schwarzenegger, whose "business advisor" from the 60s onwards was gay, and who was available for pay upon arrival in Venice in lieu of a regular job.  ;D
Not the same at all; BBs have done gay for pay all along, but most are not gay.
Which one? hahahah

Are you trying to say that perverse gay actions now are considered hetrosexual? Is this an attempt of coming out of the closet in a sneaky way?
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 06:48:49 AM
Has anyone not done g4p?
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 06:50:41 AM
Has anyone not done g4p?
Some with extraordinary naivete continue to equate this with gayness.


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Are you trying to say that perverse gay actions now are considered hetrosexual? Is this an attempt of coming out of the closet in a sneaky way?
Plenty of straight BBs indulge in gay for pay to cover the rent; what's interesting is your naivete on this.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 08, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
Rumor has it that Paris always was helping sean ray with his 'oil' backstage.....
Sean: " Get my lower abs, needs more oil....lower....lower ....lower......"
Paris: " Sean, I dont think your testicles need that much oil"
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on December 08, 2006, 06:55:58 AM
Some with extraordinary naivete continue to equate this with gayness.

Plenty of straight BBs indulge in gay for pay to cover the rent; what's interesting is your naivete on this.

But it cant be easy, nor enjoyable. Still it seems everyone at one time or other does this. Even the greats.

What about stripping, performing, dancing for a straight(female)clientele?
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 08:09:01 AM
Extremely gay posing music in both '84 & '88; then again few BBs choose good posing music. Rather femme posing routine as well. Good physique, looked better in '88, here:



Hey I know that song.. "Baby can I hold you tonight"... i'm an 80's child... Bob looks great, how many dudes on stage today can replicate that look? We can't face the truth that can't look beautiful, so instead we fetishize drug abuse and freaky size.. Anyone who walks on stage today looking like bob paris will probably be laughed off the stage, with eggs and rotten tomatoes flying to boot..
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 08:21:33 AM
Anyone who walks on stage today looking like bob paris will probably be laughed off the stage, with eggs and rotten tomatoes flying to boot..

That kind of effeminate posing & music really detracts from the presentation of a masculine physique though.

As far as today's physiques, i think Anthony's & Martinez's physiques are just as good or better.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 08:29:49 AM
It's not so much effeminate as classy and refined... Maybe he should have posed to the Star Wars theme, done the robot, pretended like the DJ was playing the wrong music, and all that overdone crap!
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: kyomu on December 08, 2006, 08:32:25 AM
Why you guys are always so rural red neck??
Why you guys care gays so much??
I dont care who he is even if he came from mars.
The important thing is that he posed 1000 times better than BBers of now a day.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 08:33:52 AM
It's not so much effeminate as classy and refined... Maybe he should have posed to the Star Wars theme, done the robot, pretended like the DJ was playing the wrong music, and all that overdone crap!

It's classy & refined, but also lacks masculinity & clearly hints at femininity, which diminishes the presentation. He didn't have to do it, if he'd have considered classy & refined routines by posers like Corney or Dickerson.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 08:36:22 AM
OK that's your opinion I guess... I don't see the clear hints of femininity you mention, except that his posing is "artsy"...
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2006, 08:38:09 AM
Others have also noticed it; too bad he had to be gay 24-7 by including it in the presentation. Dickerson didn't feel the need to include that element in the routine; excluding it i'm quite sure helped him win the Olympia.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 08:40:00 AM
Fair enough... but I'd rather look like him than Ronnie "Preggo" Coleman any day...
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 08, 2006, 09:26:55 AM
gay4pay is better than gay4free, also matt c, how tall is mr paris 6'0 and 14/15 ?  ;D or maybe 181,76cm
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 09:32:26 AM
What's this obsession on here with gay-for-pay?!

You sickos are like the Derek Anthony fanclub... minus the splooge covered pics of Derek, that is...
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: natural al on December 08, 2006, 09:33:01 AM
I remember reading that Paris was gay in ironman magazine and my jaw hit the floor.  I had no idea..I was only like 16 years old and he had just made his comeback.  I saw him on american muscle doing his routine for the 88 niagra show and thoguht he looked pretty damn good, they kept on saying how women loved this guy and then he comes out of the closet....I was literally floored.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Max_Rep on December 08, 2006, 09:34:18 AM
Perfection!!

Agreed.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 08, 2006, 09:34:58 AM
What's this obsession on here with gay-for-pay?!

You sickos are like the Derek Anthony fanclub... minus the splooge covered pics of Derek, that is...

its called growth..market expansion
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: donrhummy on December 08, 2006, 09:39:33 AM
Watch him in the 1988 Mr. O vid, he's even better - near perfection. Imagine if he'd won the Mr. O that year, I'll bet the guts and 50-inch waists of today wouldn't be ruling bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 08, 2006, 09:53:50 AM
I remember reading that Paris was gay in ironman magazine and my jaw hit the floor.  I had no idea..I was only like 16 years old and he had just made his comeback.  I saw him on american muscle doing his routine for the 88 niagra show and thoguht he looked pretty damn good, they kept on saying how women loved this guy and then he comes out of the closet....I was literally floored.

Why? Were you so excited thinking you might stand a chance with him? ;D

Natural Al wwwuuuuuvvvvv Bob Paris!!!
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: kyomu on December 08, 2006, 10:12:40 AM
its called growth..market expansion
Otherwise,i really dont like his hams and glutes. They are smooth. From the front,its the work of art.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: natural al on December 08, 2006, 10:28:15 AM
Why? Were you so excited thinking you might stand a chance with him? ;D

Natural Al wwwuuuuuvvvvv Bob Paris!!!

c'mon now.  I remember all they would talk about was how the women were falling all over him wherever he went...I just couldn't see why a dude that could prolly get any chick he wanted would want to be with a dude, he was the first "celebrity" that I knew that came out of the closet.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: legbreaker on December 08, 2006, 10:37:42 AM
Where has bodybuilding gone????  Too bad when bodybuilders first topic of dicussion today is drugs and not special training practices or nutrition stratagies.....Posing????  Hahaha, forget about it, most don't even think of it anymore.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: njflex on December 08, 2006, 07:57:16 PM
84 you can see he had huge calve's ,leg's so-so,but for the illussion  and posing he did large leg's would have looked out of place on his build,88 he admitted he was sick and down 20 lbs from usual wght ,overdieted,i think he was 208 -218 not totally sure.great build francis benfatto posed and was smaller in height version of paris.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Earl1972 on December 08, 2006, 08:54:49 PM
he got a great ovation

fans seem to be quiet these days compared to that

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Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: cqfd on December 08, 2006, 09:35:08 PM
Did you see the end of his 1988 routine?  It wasn't included in the youtube link.  At the end of his routine, Bob lied on the ground and hugged the floor.  It was very effeminate.  I said that on ironage and got a lot of flak for it.  However, that is an objective way to look at exactly what Bob's routine was like.  What was seen in the youtube clip was more masculine - it was the end of the routine that the tone changed somewhat.

And?
Maybe he was fed up with all the time he had to do as if he was straight, may be it was a way to say I'm gay so what?

His gayness may have something to do with the way he looked. Gay people have probably more developped their sense of beauty than the common guy.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: bigkubby on December 09, 2006, 04:50:19 AM
YEA HIS ARMS ARE STILL BIGGER THAN LEE HANEY AND MUCH BETTER THAN DORIANS HIS LOOKED LIKE SHIT.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: OneManGang on December 09, 2006, 05:08:34 AM
His Royal Gayness, Derek Anthony is needed to clarify several of the gay issues in this thread. Derek, we need your knowledge in this field!
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 09, 2006, 05:13:05 AM
I believe the proper form of address is: His Majesty the Queen.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Hedgehog on December 09, 2006, 05:18:54 AM
Rumor has it that Paris always was helping sean ray with his 'oil' backstage.....
Sean: " Get my lower abs, needs more oil....lower....lower ....lower......"
Paris: " Sean, I dont think your testicles need that much oil"

"Rumor has it"?

Serious question:

Why did you fantasize up a scenario involving Shawn Ray and Bob Paris?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: columbusdude82 on December 09, 2006, 05:21:16 AM
"Rumor has it"?

Serious question:

Why did you fantasize up a scenario involving Shawn Ray and Bob Paris?

YIP
Zacke

Come on YIPZack... like you've never dreamed up a steamy sexual encounter between two past bbing stars...
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Hulkster on December 09, 2006, 07:28:06 AM
its called growth..market expansion

you mean growth asshole expansion...
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Hulkster on December 09, 2006, 07:31:19 AM
coming out was not good for his career though.

back in the late 80's early 90's the attitudes were not as tolerant as they are now.

for example, the musclemag with him and Rod Jackson (his partner back then) on the cover was the lowest selling muscle mag ever at the time. Musclemag really scolded its readers at the time, but thats how things were.

Nowadays, they would probably get a reality tv show....
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Figo on December 09, 2006, 09:11:11 AM
True.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: bmacsys on December 09, 2006, 11:18:06 AM
"Rumor has it"?

Serious question:

Why did you fantasize up a scenario involving Shawn Ray and Bob Paris?

YIP
Zack

Because he is Jayjonna. The fembot.
Title: Re: Bob Paris at the 1984 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Karl Kox on December 09, 2006, 02:11:28 PM
classic physique.

It seemes he got a little bigger than that latter on.