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Title: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: the shadow on December 27, 2006, 04:43:44 AM
don't know if this was posted before..he is training for a comeback in 07
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 04:48:09 AM
How old is Milos?
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Post by: the shadow on December 27, 2006, 04:48:45 AM
more
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Post by: the shadow on December 27, 2006, 04:50:57 AM
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Post by: jaejonna on December 27, 2006, 05:58:32 AM
Milos has the eye of the tiger in him!!!
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Post by: kilojoule on December 27, 2006, 06:05:57 AM
How old is Milos?
42 i think
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Post by: njflex on December 27, 2006, 06:51:38 AM
he has what seem's a very balanced approach to training and diet for the long haul,to be that fit even not competing is impressive.most non competitive retired pro's have long bailed on hardcore training.42 yrs old means nothing he can take on any young to middle 30 yr old no problem.
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Post by: shootfighter1 on December 27, 2006, 06:52:39 AM
I honestly think if Milos was able to take 6 months and prepare well for a show, he would do very well.  He has an incredible structure, knowledge and work ethic.  He has that X frame that has started to be rewarded again (thankfully).  Unfortunately, it seems he is so busy helping others and running his gym, its tough for him to take the time to put 100% into it.  I sincerely hope he is able to take time for himself and prep for a show in 2007, would be great to see him on stage again.
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Post by: njflex on December 27, 2006, 06:59:59 AM
he has said he skips meals and he still look's phenomenal.
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Post by: lvtolft on December 27, 2006, 07:05:28 AM
Great pics!  Milos looks like a beast.
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Post by: Bluto on December 27, 2006, 07:14:44 AM
Good post Shadow. Good luck to Milos!
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Post by: Petrucci on December 27, 2006, 07:23:53 AM
all drugs!!!!!!














sorry milos, you are great, but it just had to do this, LOL  ;D
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Post by: Rockhead on December 27, 2006, 07:28:18 AM
I remember him saying he almost entered one of the GP shows after the Olympia, on the spur of the moment.  He walks around with bodyfat low enough to jump onstage anytime?  He was just going to suprise everyone and get onstage, he's a freak!
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Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 27, 2006, 07:33:50 AM
milos looks huge and very focused (has he ever been anything but?).

he obviously loves bbing and i personally find it very inspiring when i see phenoms like milos and serge still so motivated and hitting it hard.

i predict that milos will compete again for the love of it. he's a competitor and it won't harm his business interests either.

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Post by: rccs on December 27, 2006, 07:42:14 AM
Nice to see you pumping Milos. Good luck for you!
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
Doesn't Milos have the record (or close behind) as the guy that competed in the most shows?
A few seasons he did almost all the shows, which is unbelievably hard, from the perspective of keeping condition throughout year!
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:07:48 AM
brutal 80lb. preachers and 135lb. shoulder presses.
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Post by: Mars on December 27, 2006, 09:14:47 AM
Maybe he trains for cuts and uses super slow movements?
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:15:58 AM
brutal 80lb. preachers and 135lb. shoulder presses.

Whilst I realize those poundages were what you used as a warm-up as a beginner, and you scoff on them, perhaps Milos was doing descending sets. An idividual as experienced, knowledgeable, intense and observant such as yourself, surely is familiar with the concept?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:20:47 AM
Whilst I realize those poundages were what you used as a warm-up as a beginner, and you scoff on them, perhaps Milos was doing descending sets. An idividual as experienced, knowledgeable, intense and observant such as yourself, surely is familiar with the concept?
yeah, that must be the case. ::)
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:32:23 AM
yeah, that must be the case. ::)

Or perhaps it means he's inferior to you, which means that if you havent yet surpassed his achievements, you are sure to one day.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:33:45 AM
Or perhaps it means he's inferior to you, which means that if you havent yet surpassed his achievements, you are sure to one day.
hahahaha, we can't all be as HUGE as you "figo". ::)
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Post by: JasonH on December 27, 2006, 09:35:02 AM
Milos's legs look small on those pics.

I don't think he's planning a comeback - he just likes to stay in shape by the look of it.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:35:50 AM
Milos's legs look small on those pics.

I don't think he's planning a comeback - he just likes to stay in shape by the look of it.
as opposed to your legs which are massive, right "bigJ"?
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Post by: HUGEPECS on December 27, 2006, 09:36:18 AM
milos is kicking it high. this would be nice to see, if he decided to make a comeback
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Post by: affy on December 27, 2006, 09:36:52 AM
milos had some of the best quads i've ever seen.  amazing lines

anybody have that pic of his quads in the offseason. 
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Post by: getfast81 on December 27, 2006, 09:37:19 AM
Pretty intense on those hack squats.  What the hell is going on with those plates?
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:37:39 AM
hahahaha, we can't all be as HUGE as you "figo". ::)

I'm not huge, but wouldn't mind attaining Milos' size and shape. Thats a small goal for you obviously, but not everyone has fantastic genes, and a superior work ethic.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:39:06 AM
I'm not huge, but wouldn't mind attaining Milos' size and shape. Thats a small goal for you obviously, but not everyone has fantastic genes, and a superior work ethic.
tell your mom i'll be over a little early tonight "big guy".
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:42:18 AM
tell your mom i'll be over a little early tonight "big guy".

My mom asked if you want her to wear the strap on again?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:44:35 AM
My mom asked if you want her to wear the strap on again?
she doesn't need it, her real dick is big enough.
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Post by: Rockhead on December 27, 2006, 09:46:26 AM
LOL!  Not to take sides, but squadfather, that was classic! ;D
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Post by: rccs on December 27, 2006, 09:46:34 AM
brutal 80lb. preachers and 135lb. shoulder presses.

Always dissing on others... Don't you have to do your homework "squirtfather"? Post your training pics, I bet you have a world class physique...
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:47:07 AM
she doesn't need it, her real dick is big emough.

Strange taste you have in women. But each to his own.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 09:47:19 AM
LOL!  Not to take sides, but squadfather, that was classic! ;D
hahahaha, that was pretty good.
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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 09:51:50 AM
Yes, it was pretty good. ;)
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Post by: GoneAway on December 27, 2006, 10:21:44 AM
As much as I love Milos (who doesn't?), I'm not sure if he'll able to bring the package that you need to place well in 2006. Mayhe he'll crack top 5 at the Arnold at best, but it feels like once you've reached your best in a certain time period (for Milos it was the mid-to-late 90's), you can't improve on that to the level of the next time period. Hey, hopefully I'm wrong.

Good luck Milos!
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 10:26:26 AM
Milos is doing good. He could surprise a few people.
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Post by: WillRiker on December 27, 2006, 10:29:54 AM
Always dissing on others... Don't you have to do your homework "squirtfather"? Post your training pics, I bet you have a world class physique...

Was thinking the same thing. Probably will get an angry ("witty") response from squidfather.

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Post by: Figo on December 27, 2006, 11:43:03 AM
Always dissing on others... Don't you have to do your homework "squirtfather"? Post your training pics, I bet you have a world class physique...

The man is a legend. He's bigger than Jay, and stronger than Mariusz.

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Post by: Alex Velickovic on December 27, 2006, 12:20:43 PM
Milos will be competing in one or more of the early shows of 2007.
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Post by: Jr. Yates on December 27, 2006, 12:24:42 PM
Milos is doing good. He could surprise a few people.
hope so! hes a great champion. I'd love to see him doing great again.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 02:30:32 PM
Pretty intense on those hack squats.  What the hell is going on with those plates?


"Drop set"...

Super slow on the way down (5 seconds or more)...pause on the bottom (2 seconds) before pushing it up in super-slow fashion (no "power" and instead only strong muscle contraction) - without locking the knees at the top (thus - maintaining continuous tension)...
After every 3 (4 or 5 reps - depends on WHEN in the workout we do these drop sets) we take 2 plates off from one side only...

More often than not - when we are down to "nothing" (no plates at all) - we start adding them back up in the same fashion (every so many reps we put the weights back - ASCENDING mode (rather than descending)...

On the good day we might go down (descending) - up (ascending) and down (descending) again...OR combine this exercise with other (superset) or others (giant sets)...

I love when "keyboard heroes" notice the poundages that I (or my athletes) use and call it - "brutal" or "monster" strength...

There is always an offer for those "tough" guys to come and join us in training to see how "brutal they are"...

They have no clue WHAT comes BEFORE any particular lift - so when you see photo of me (or someone else) doing 135lbs shoulder press or whatever amount "preacher curl" - that doesn't mean we are doing ONLY that exercise...

If you follow my training programs (usually there is exact workout posted on board) - you will notice that I combine a lot of different exercises one after another...

Shoulder presses (for example) were - explosive standing shoulder presses AFTER super slow (5 seconds minimum) HEAVY Smith Machine military presses...with 2 seconds pause on the bottom (when bar touches the chest)...

EZ-Bar Preacher curl was one of 5 exercises in giant-set sequence (along with low pulley cable preacher curl, reverse preacher curl, selectorized machine preacher curl + Hammer Strength Preacher curl...all done with various tempo, different load, grip and a technique...)

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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 02:32:23 PM

"Drop set"...

Super slow on the way down (5 seconds or more)...pause on the bottom (2 seconds) before pushing it up in super-slow fashion (no "power" and instead only strong muscle contraction) - without locking the knees at the top (thus - maintaining continuous tension)...
After every 3 (4 or 5 reps - depends on WHEN in the workout we do these drop sets) we take 2 plates off from one side only...

More often than not - when we are down to "nothing" (no plates at all) - we start adding them back up in the same fashion (every so many reps we put the weights back - ASCENDING mode (rather than descending)...

On the good day we might go down (descending) - up (ascending) and down (descending) again...OR combine this exercise with other (superset) or others (giant sets)...

I love when "keyboard heroes" notice the poundages that I (or my athletes) use and call it - "brutal" or "monster" strength...

There is always an offer for those "tough" guys to come and join us in training to see how "brutal they are"...

They have no clue WHAT comes BEFORE any particular lift - so when you see photo of me (or someone else) doing 135lbs shoulder press or whatever amount "preacher curl" - that doesn't mean we are doing ONLY that exercise...

If you follow my training programs (usually there is exact workout posted on board) - you will notice that I combine a lot of different exercises one after another...

Shoulder presses (for example) were - explosive standing shoulder presses AFTER super slow (5 seconds minimum) HEAVY Smith Machine military presses...with 2 seconds pause on the bottom (when bar touches the chest)...

EZ-Bar Preacher curl was one of 5 exercises in giant-set sequence (along with low pulley cable preacher curl, reverse preacher curl, selectorized machine preacher curl + Hammer Strength Preacher curl...all done with various tempo, different load, grip and a technique...)


bullshit, why not show the "HEAVY" Smith machine presses and the other heavy movements then, stud?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 02:40:10 PM
Milos will be 43 next month!  He is 5'10 and 1/2 and competed around 245.  He is young enough to make a comeback, but I don't see the benefits.
what do you think of the monster weight he uses during his "workouts", Matt?
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Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 02:41:26 PM
yes there is no point in him making a comeback with his 17 inch arms.
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 02:44:06 PM
yes there is no point in him making a comeback with his 17 inch arms.

You should ask Milos how to train calves.
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Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 02:45:18 PM
You should ask Milos how to train calves.

my calves are genetically weak like his arms.  can't do much to improve them except take drugs like milos did to help his arms go from 16-17".
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 02:47:13 PM
Milos how big are your calves? Care to post your pics against basts?
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Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 02:49:06 PM
Milos how big are your calves? Care to post your pics against basts?
we would be comparing a guy who's been juicing for 22 years to a 22 year old drug free guy.
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 02:50:24 PM
we would be comparing a guy who's been juicing for 22 years to a 22 year old drugged up guy.

yes!
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Post by: Bluto on December 27, 2006, 02:52:28 PM
Not heavy, but it seems from the videos I've watched that it's the exception when pros lift super heavy weights, not the norm.  You might be surprised at how light Gunter trains relative to his size.

that's because theyre bodybuilders. sarcasm is obsessed with strength and yet he hangs out on a bodybuilding board, when he should be on a strength board. guy is confused.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 02:52:52 PM
bullshit, why not show the "HEAVY" Smith machine presses and the other heavy movements then, stud?

Stud - you have my personal invitation to come anytime and show us what you got...
I will take the challenge that whatever you can do with two arms or legs - I will do with SINGLE...

Deal?
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 02:54:39 PM
BTW - if you can count...this is 225lbs - on barbell curls (prior to "preachers")
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Post by: davidpaul on December 27, 2006, 02:56:59 PM
BTW - if you can count...this is 225lbs - on barbell curls (prior to "preachers")

thats a lot of weight for curls.

how many reps on 225 can u do with a small amount swinging?
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Post by: War-Horse on December 27, 2006, 02:57:35 PM
Stud - you have my personal invitation to come anytime and show us what you got...
I will take the challenge that whatever you can do with two arms or legs - I will do with SINGLE...

Deal?


Meeting milos at his gym was incredible.  Troy alves came in too.   I was gonna train with them but the family was excited about the disneyland trip.  (Daddys love their little princess girls) ;D...................Any way imagine a guy as big as the warhorse....but made of lean muscle and not crisco can's......its kinda like that. :D
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Post by: arce377 on December 27, 2006, 02:58:57 PM
GO MILOS!!!!!
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 03:03:19 PM
yes there is no point in him making a comeback with his 17 inch arms.

Back in 1991 I had 15 inch arms...still made it to Olympia stage ;)
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Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 03:05:00 PM
Back in 1991 I had 15 inch arms...still made it to Olympia stage ;)

you probably could have won one with a better back and arms.
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Post by: figgs on December 27, 2006, 03:06:20 PM

"Drop set"...

Super slow on the way down (5 seconds or more)...pause on the bottom (2 seconds) before pushing it up in super-slow fashion (no "power" and instead only strong muscle contraction) - without locking the knees at the top (thus - maintaining continuous tension)...
After every 3 (4 or 5 reps - depends on WHEN in the workout we do these drop sets) we take 2 plates off from one side only...

More often than not - when we are down to "nothing" (no plates at all) - we start adding them back up in the same fashion (every so many reps we put the weights back - ASCENDING mode (rather than descending)...

On the good day we might go down (descending) - up (ascending) and down (descending) again...OR combine this exercise with other (superset) or others (giant sets)...

I love when "keyboard heroes" notice the poundages that I (or my athletes) use and call it - "brutal" or "monster" strength...

There is always an offer for those "tough" guys to come and join us in training to see how "brutal they are"...

They have no clue WHAT comes BEFORE any particular lift - so when you see photo of me (or someone else) doing 135lbs shoulder press or whatever amount "preacher curl" - that doesn't mean we are doing ONLY that exercise...

If you follow my training programs (usually there is exact workout posted on board) - you will notice that I combine a lot of different exercises one after another...

Shoulder presses (for example) were - explosive standing shoulder presses AFTER super slow (5 seconds minimum) HEAVY Smith Machine military presses...with 2 seconds pause on the bottom (when bar touches the chest)...

EZ-Bar Preacher curl was one of 5 exercises in giant-set sequence (along with low pulley cable preacher curl, reverse preacher curl, selectorized machine preacher curl + Hammer Strength Preacher curl...all done with various tempo, different load, grip and a technique...)



Sounds like you might know a bit more about real training than the squadfather. :)

I have one question. Why pause for 2 seconds in the stretched position? Wouldn't it be more productive to pause in the fully contracted position to stimulate maximum muscular contraction?
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 03:07:38 PM
thats a lot of weight for curls.

how many reps on 225 can u do with a small amount swinging?

Well, my AC wasn't working so I was swinging away - to create some air for my members...
Arnold used to call it "cheat curls"...

On the serious note - while most of the stuff I do in super strict form - sometimes I do use power moves and purposely use every supporting muscle to help the primary mover...(in this case biceps)...

Barbell curls were strict until 185...but 225 was "another story"...
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 27, 2006, 03:08:37 PM
Stud - you have my personal invitation to come anytime and show us what you got...
I will take the challenge that whatever you can do with two arms or legs - I will do with SINGLE...

Deal?

It ain't gonna happen, I've extended the invite many times and even offered to pay his way and he spun his way out of it with nothing but excuses!
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 03:08:49 PM
you probably could have won one with a better back and arms.

I think so too...But - I still can ;)
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Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 03:10:04 PM
i'm exaggerating your arm problems of course.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 03:11:46 PM
It ain't gonna happen, I've extended the invite many times and even offered to pay his way and he spun his way out of it with nothing but excuses!


Really?

Shocking but (maybe ???) true...

You mean he is not a stand-up guy willing to back his tough talk?

That really surprises me...
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Post by: War-Horse on December 27, 2006, 03:12:07 PM
Cooooool....Ive got a 9 7/8ths inch.......wait thats something else. :-[
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 03:14:20 PM
i'm exaggerating your arm problems of course.

Really?
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 03:14:49 PM
Cooooool....Ive got a 9 7/8ths inch.......wait thats something else. :-[

Big guy all the way gustavo War-Horse!
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Post by: War-Horse on December 27, 2006, 03:16:51 PM
Big guy all the way gustavo War-Horse!


Aghhhhhh   Gustavo in the house, King Alexxx!!!!
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 27, 2006, 03:17:01 PM


You mean he is not a stand-up guy willing to back his tough talk?

That really surprises me...

Nope, not willing to back it up, I'm in your gym at least once a month to train, perhaps one day he'll take us both up on our invites, but my offer is off the table now and I stopped wasting my time!
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Post by: War-Horse on December 27, 2006, 03:21:46 PM
Nope, not willing to back it up, I'm in your gym at least once a month to train, perhaps one day he'll take us both up on our invites, but my offer is off the table now and I stopped wasting my time!


Not to change the subject intenseone.......but rush limbaugh is a poo poo head.
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Post by: davidpaul on December 27, 2006, 03:26:23 PM
Well, my AC wasn't working so I was swinging away - to create some air for my members...
Arnold used to call it "cheat curls"...

On the serious note - while most of the stuff I do in super strict form - sometimes I do use power moves and purposely use every supporting muscle to help the primary mover...(in this case biceps)...

Barbell curls were strict until 185...but 225 was "another story"...

cheat or not, its a lot of weight.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 27, 2006, 03:28:12 PM

Not to change the subject intenseone.......but rush limbaugh is a poo poo head.

LOL.....thanks for that!!
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Post by: War-Horse on December 27, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
LOL.....thanks for that!!

 ;D



RE:  Milos curling 225lbs......It hurts just to see it nowadays. :'(
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Post by: Stavios on December 27, 2006, 03:53:41 PM
Well, my AC wasn't working so I was swinging away - to create some air for my members...
Arnold used to call it "cheat curls"...

On the serious note - while most of the stuff I do in super strict form - sometimes I do use power moves and purposely use every supporting muscle to help the primary mover...(in this case biceps)...

Barbell curls were strict until 185...but 225 was "another story"...

that's ok !
most of the guys here couldn't even power clean the 185 lbs barbell !  ;D
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 03:55:08 PM
that's ok !
most of the guys here couldn't even power clean the 185 lbs barbell !  ;D

That's only because it's twice their bodyweights.
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Post by: Stavios on December 27, 2006, 03:57:07 PM
That's only because it's twice their bodyweights.

haha yes !!
poor bast
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Post by: alexxx on December 27, 2006, 03:58:36 PM
haha yes !!
poor bast

lol
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 05:30:09 PM
BTW - if you can count...this is 225lbs - on barbell curls (prior to "preachers")
hahahaha, brutal reverse grip power cleans.
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Post by: njflex on December 27, 2006, 07:10:17 PM
i would love to train and learn some of his techniques on altering the basic movements into more effectivness.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 07:27:02 PM
hahahaha, brutal reverse grip power cleans.

Is this YES to my "brutal" challenge?

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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 07:27:31 PM
Is this YES to my "brutal" challenge?


yes, it will be fun shutting you up.
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Post by: njflex on December 27, 2006, 07:49:30 PM
yes, it will be fun shutting you up.
and how will  do this?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 27, 2006, 07:51:08 PM
and how will  do this?
if he puts up all the money flying me out there, putting me up in a hotel, rents me a car, pays for my meals, etc. i'll come out and see what he's capable of.
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Post by: njflex on December 27, 2006, 07:56:25 PM
if he puts up all the money flying me out there, putting me up in a hotel, rents me a car, pays for my meals, etc. i'll come out and see what he's capable of.
that's some cash,he is only a gym owner not a ceo,actor,imagine he did do it,you would have no choice bro.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 27, 2006, 08:03:26 PM
yes, it will be fun shutting you up.

 ;D ;D ;D

Can't wait for "fun"...
You know where to find me...
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Post by: MisterMagoo on December 27, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
hell, pay for my flight (i'll front the rest), and i'll come along for the ride, too. make this an event, boys!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 27, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
if he puts up all the money flying me out there, putting me up in a hotel, rents me a car, pays for my meals, etc. i'll come out and see what he's capable of.


..............and then come up with an excuse that you can't come!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Jr. Franco on December 27, 2006, 09:12:31 PM
He's looking good and trainin hard looks like  ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on December 27, 2006, 09:21:59 PM
Does Milos have some demons in his closet I don't know about?  ???  He always seemed stand up on here.
anytime someone succeeds where others have failed they will try to bring him down. ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: schwarzenpecker on December 27, 2006, 09:52:42 PM
Milos, how can you train legs so intensely after having surgery on both quads? Is there constant pain?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bast175 on December 27, 2006, 09:57:35 PM
Milos, how can you train legs so intensely after having surgery on both quads? Is there constant pain?

You heal from surgery dude.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: SecondFocus on December 27, 2006, 10:09:43 PM
You don't need to be around Milos for very long to realize that he is just amazing. This man knows what he is doing and lives it everyday. And for those of you who think that he might not be pumping enough heavy weight, well you go on and ask Milos to do a workout with him and we will see how long you last. Let me know ahead of time and I will drop in and shoot a few photos of your grand efforts and make sure we get them posted in all the right places.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 27, 2006, 11:20:50 PM
Milos, let me tell you this shit...
 
You bring a guy into the fold that has NEVER USED, put his pics on the net and tell the ENTIRE INTERNET forum about him.

Milos, I DO respect what you've done for bodybuilding over the last 2 years.  I think that YOU and your breatheren don't care about being a fatass. 
 
You are  JOKE, Milos.  PROVIDE your email address and  be WILLING TO PUT PHOTOS of a LIFETIME NATURAL up on your website.

You are a JOKE, Milos.  A drug-addicted joke.
Who and what are you talking about?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 27, 2006, 11:52:31 PM
Not knowing who and what is a grand showing of your ignorance.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Figo on December 28, 2006, 12:02:35 AM
Milos' arms arent mutations ala Ronnie, nor did they have the freaky fullness of the Flexes and Levrones of this world(although he did attempt their systems once  ;)), but I wanna see one of his detractors here match his arm size, shape and development in contest condition. They were probably 19-20" in contest shape.
This guy was the Zane of his day, the best physique since Paris. And he could pose.

Now we got guys bashing his wife too, talk about jealousy. And of course, the same guys are lifetime natural, and claim everyone is all drugs. Pathetic.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 28, 2006, 12:02:59 AM
Milos, let me tell you this shit...
 
You bring a guy into the fold that has NEVER USED, put his pics on the net and tell the ENTIRE INTERNET forum about him.

Milos, I DO respect what you've done for bodybuilding over the last 2 years.  I think that YOU and your breatheren don't care about being a fatass. 
 
You are  JOKE, Milos.  PROVIDE your email address and  be WILLING TO PUT PHOTOS of a LIFETIME NATURAL up on your website.

You are a JOKE, Milos.  A drug-addicted joke.

i'm interested to know who and wtf you're talking about too?

what natural guy did milos bring into the fold???

i don't understand all this contempt for the man either.

seriously, did he fuck your girlfriend or something?

you are on a bodybuilding message board and you're hating on the man simply because he is bigger than you. that's all you've got.

you should go and get some therapy for your insecurity and fear.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 28, 2006, 12:13:11 AM
The Milosification of bodybuilding has been one of it's downfalls over the last decade.  There is a reason why this guy is around every guy who's as wide in the waist as he is tall.  This guy's "advice" regarding drugs has provided the pro ranks with a PLETHORA of guys with 36+ inch waists (like Cutler). 
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Figo on December 28, 2006, 12:15:45 AM
Bullshit.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 28, 2006, 12:22:19 AM
The Milosification of bodybuilding has been one of it's downfalls over the last decade.  There is a reason why this guy is around every guy who's as wide in the waist as he is tall.  This guy's "advice" regarding drugs has provided the pro ranks with a PLETHORA of guys with 36+ inch waists (like Cutler). 

yes, it was milos that introduced gh, igf 1, insulin and massive doses of test to the world ::)

you have more mental problems than i thought.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: rccs on December 28, 2006, 02:11:18 AM
Milos' arms arent mutations ala Ronnie, nor did they have the freaky fullness of the Flexes and Levrones of this world(although he did attempt their systems once  ;)), but I wanna see one of his detractors here match his arm size, shape and development in contest condition. They were probably 19-20" in contest shape.
This guy was the Zane of his day, the best physique since Paris. And he could pose.

Now we got guys bashing his wife too, talk about jealousy. And of course, the same guys are lifetime natural, and claim everyone is all drugs. Pathetic.
Yes, unfortunatelly the "loser soreness" sometimes can transform it self into frustration. I admire Milos and his career, not all bbers from his generation can say that they are fit and strong and even able to return to high lever bbing, most of them wouldn't even last 15 min in Milos's training. For some members here, they only detract and are not positive, no construction, only destruction, first symptom of frustration... :(
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 28, 2006, 02:21:30 AM
The Milosification of bodybuilding has been one of it's downfalls over the last decade.  There is a reason why this guy is around every guy who's as wide in the waist as he is tall.  This guy's "advice" regarding drugs has provided the pro ranks with a PLETHORA of guys with 36+ inch waists (like Cutler). 
I hang around here a lot and I have no idea who you are talking about. Spill it. Who is the natural guy? What's the problem with him being natural?

Anyone else know wtf this dude is talking about?

Yes Milos was hyping insulin but how come Milos doesn't have the wide and bloated waist himself?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: UK Gold on December 28, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
'The Ego Crusher' is trying to make a name for himself by belittling Milos. 'Kegdrainer' did the same thing with Chick. Pathetic.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Alex Velickovic on December 28, 2006, 03:36:07 AM
Milos is a BB legend.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 28, 2006, 06:05:49 AM

"Drop set"...

Super slow on the way down (5 seconds or more)...pause on the bottom (2 seconds) before pushing it up in super-slow fashion (no "power" and instead only strong muscle contraction) - without locking the knees at the top (thus - maintaining continuous tension)...
After every 3 (4 or 5 reps - depends on WHEN in the workout we do these drop sets) we take 2 plates off from one side only...

More often than not - when we are down to "nothing" (no plates at all) - we start adding them back up in the same fashion (every so many reps we put the weights back - ASCENDING mode (rather than descending)...

On the good day we might go down (descending) - up (ascending) and down (descending) again...OR combine this exercise with other (superset) or others (giant sets)...

I love when "keyboard heroes" notice the poundages that I (or my athletes) use and call it - "brutal" or "monster" strength...

There is always an offer for those "tough" guys to come and join us in training to see how "brutal they are"...

They have no clue WHAT comes BEFORE any particular lift - so when you see photo of me (or someone else) doing 135lbs shoulder press or whatever amount "preacher curl" - that doesn't mean we are doing ONLY that exercise...

If you follow my training programs (usually there is exact workout posted on board) - you will notice that I combine a lot of different exercises one after another...

Shoulder presses (for example) were - explosive standing shoulder presses AFTER super slow (5 seconds minimum) HEAVY Smith Machine military presses...with 2 seconds pause on the bottom (when bar touches the chest)...

EZ-Bar Preacher curl was one of 5 exercises in giant-set sequence (along with low pulley cable preacher curl, reverse preacher curl, selectorized machine preacher curl + Hammer Strength Preacher curl...all done with various tempo, different load, grip and a technique...)



if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 28, 2006, 06:49:33 AM
if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.

i personally don't agree with milos' training ideas, mainly because my main interests are strength and power for performance in my field ie super slow and endless superset type exercise become too much about endurance for me and i would rather perform endurance work separately and more along the lines of repetitive explosive movements and interval training (sprint - cardio).

having said that, i would think that super slow with less weight would reduce the risk of potentiating injury because you are using less weight and more control of the movement itself.

conversely, explosive ballistic movement of heavy weight is much more likely to cause injury because you are using inertia and speed to move the weight through the weak range of the motion thereby increasing the likelihood of the weight leaving the desired plane of motion and/or overstressing the muscle, tendons and connective tissue.

the cns is actually taxed less because there is less recruitment due to lighter weights used.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2006, 06:53:25 AM
On a bbing forum for positive talk and feedback,esp with a pro the caliber of milos and u rip his credibility and reputation.he runs a buissness,train's bber's ,keeps himself in great shape which in itself must be tough with his schedule and he get's some of these outrageous accusation's and stupid post's.positive info would be more appreciated from him .at least u don't have to buy a 6.00 mag for the same old pic's and info,he give's u a little here and more on his own website.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Figo on December 28, 2006, 06:57:28 AM
On a bbing forum for positive talk and feedback,esp with a pro the caliber of milos and u rip his credibility and reputation.he runs a buissness,train's bber's ,keeps himself in great shape which in itself must be tough with his schedule and he get's some of these outrageous accusation's and stupid post's.positive info would be more appreciated from him .at least u don't have to buy a 6.00 mag for the same old pic's and info,he give's u a little here and more on his own website.

There you go :)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Steel-Lucifuge on December 28, 2006, 07:07:51 AM
EgoCrusher and Squirtfather are pissed because they both stalked Milos for gay sex and Milos rejected that.
From the basement of their parents' house, they suck each others cock like there is no tommorow.
What a sweet pair of love birds they are!
Good job tough guys, now go back to your basement (your parents' basement)and suck each others cock  and pretend to be tough guys on internet from your junk computers.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 28, 2006, 12:43:12 PM
if the above is what you do on a reg basis: (can be used to "shock" the body for a couple of weeks)

the super slow things you do are totally unnecessary, and just increase the risk of injury specially if you do it as a part of multiple drop sets. it will totally crush cns (if used too frequently) thus preventing you from using a higher number of "normal" straight sets taken to near failure. It looks more like manual hard labour than working the muscle. That being said, milos, im sure you could destroy most of the getbiggers during such a session, including me...but im not sure its necessary or even best practice to do that kind of training regularly.

and in general regarding PTs:
but i understand..cuz as a personal trainer you have to bring something unique to the table, hence all the workout balls and pseudo scientific routines and all the other useless bs.

 ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 28, 2006, 12:52:55 PM
it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 28, 2006, 01:04:35 PM
"slaveboy", you can criticize a physique and no one is going to tell you you can't (after all, you don't have to be mr olympia to be a judge). but if you're going to tell a pro what's wrong with his training and what he can do to fix it, you'd better have proof that your ideas work better.

so you use the method you describe, milos uses his. post up a picture of your results and we'll all decide who to listen to. i don't hold any brief for milos, but when people think they know more about training than someone with a good track record it irks me.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 28, 2006, 01:06:28 PM
it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.
i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 28, 2006, 01:07:45 PM
i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

that's not true. milos's arms were totally hug-wait. with or without oil?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 28, 2006, 01:09:27 PM
"slaveboy", you can criticize a physique and no one is going to tell you you can't (after all, you don't have to be mr olympia to be a judge). but if you're going to tell a pro what's wrong with his training and what he can do to fix it, you'd better have proof that your ideas work better.

so you use the method you describe, milos uses his. post up a picture of your results and we'll all decide who to listen to. i don't hold any brief for milos, but when people think they know more about training than someone with a good track record it irks me.

dont give a shit if it irks you, it was just my opinions and thats what this board is about, exchanging ideas and discussing different training methods etc. so i would suggest you bring something to the table instead of trying stop the spread of the free word.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 28, 2006, 01:14:11 PM
i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

yeah but the thing is i think it applies for all muscle groups...and no im not saying milos body sucks as he has a great build. i know milos uses these techniques on legs also..for example on hacksquats...but i have to honestly say, while it may seem innovative and cool to use these intensity techniques on paper:..straight sets work often better.

i can also come up with various tortouros (spelling??)training routines..but sometimes smarter is better. not necessarily the most painful. im not suggesting training like a pussy..i say train hard but dont take the use of intensity techniques to far.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 28, 2006, 01:42:17 PM
dont give a shit if it irks you, it was just my opinions and thats what this board is about, exchanging ideas and discussing different training methods etc. so i would suggest you bring something to the table instead of trying stop the spread of the free word.

who's trying to stop you? rather, i'm asking you to defend your opinion. the only reason to listen to someone is if they can provide evidence that it works.

guy A and guy B are arguing about training methods. one is a pro bodybuilder, the other is a guy on the internet who refuses to show a picture of himself. it would be like if you were debating with a guitarist about some kind of fingering technique, only you're talking with the guitarist from dragonforce and you won't provide a single recording of your playing.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 28, 2006, 01:46:27 PM
who's trying to stop you? rather, i'm asking you to defend your opinion. the only reason to listen to someone is if they can provide evidence that it works.

guy A and guy B are arguing about training methods. one is a pro bodybuilder, the other is a guy on the internet who refuses to show a picture of himself. it would be like if you were debating with a guitarist about some kind of fingering technique, only you're talking with the guitarist from dragonforce and you won't provide a single recording of your playing.
refuses to show pics of himself..errr..i havent refused showing pics of myself. and i was talking to milos not you, i think milos can speak for himself.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BigAnt on December 28, 2006, 01:58:09 PM
Milos entered the most shows in a year than any other Pro...AND ALWAYS DISPLAYED FREAKY HARDENSS, CONDITION AND SIZE.  Shows from March through November.  And it is not all drugs, today the man still looks contest ready.  He trains smart and is still putting size on!  He is wealth of knowledge!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ether on December 28, 2006, 01:59:45 PM
How can your arms grow if you have said previously that once you had all of the synthol drained there is nothing left but scar tissue?

Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Jr. Yates on December 28, 2006, 02:02:29 PM
Milos entered the most shows in a year than any other Pro...AND ALWAYS DISPLAYED FREAKY HARDENSS, CONDITION AND SIZE.  Shows from March through November.  And it is not all drugs, today the man still looks contest ready.  He trains smart and is still putting size on!  He is wealth of knowledge!
i agree 100%.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2006, 02:03:46 PM
MILOS techiques have given him good enough arms and improving over time,his leg's are another story blessed to max their shape,size,conditioning,his training method;s took them beyond his ability to to get his arms to equal freakiness,neverthless still a great overall package.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 28, 2006, 02:53:52 PM
refuses to show pics of himself..errr..i havent refused showing pics of myself. and i was talking to milos not you, i think milos can speak for himself.

have you shown pictures of yourself? i mean, it's one thing to critique a physique, it's another to say you know better than he does how to train. if you know more about training than he does, obviously you have more to show for it than he does. if that's the case, but your money where your mouth is.

it's funny how this rarely happens on the PL boards. nobodies trying to tell top WPO lifters how to bring their bench up just doesn't happen, and if it is it's rarely listened to.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chris2489 on December 28, 2006, 03:21:07 PM
Milos, out of all the years you have been training how many have been with the super intensity style you use today? Also what did you weigh at your heaviest?

-Chris
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 28, 2006, 04:11:41 PM
have you shown pictures of yourself? i mean, it's one thing to critique a physique, it's another to say you know better than he does how to train. if you know more about training than he does, obviously you have more to show for it than he does. if that's the case, but your money where your mouth is.

it's funny how this rarely happens on the PL boards. nobodies trying to tell top WPO lifters how to bring their bench up just doesn't happen, and if it is it's rarely listened to.

Yeah I'm sure this nutlicking asspopper blows Milos away.

This same thing happens to us all on a smaller scale.

I can't count the amount of times some little turd with a training journal under his arm tries to tell me how to lift.

Bodybuilding = Genetics.    find something heavy and lift it, your body will do whatever it's gonna do.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 28, 2006, 05:01:39 PM
 
it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on December 28, 2006, 06:11:17 PM
Dorian was the king of high intensity training techniques, and went on record several times stating how careful one must be when employing such techniques, reason being the toll on the central nervous system. Once it shuts down, it shuts down, period! It will take you a fair amount of time on cooling down your training for a few weeks to recuperate the cns. Having said that and being Milos the knowledgeable guy that he is, i'm willing to say that he does not train that way 100% OF THE TIME. I'm very sure he periodizes ( i hate this term !!) his training in such a way that for an amount of time he employs straight sets with no intensifiers. This way not just you save the cns from wear and tear, but also you add a lot of variety in training styles, preventing the muscles to become accostumed. NO ONE can train 100% of the time using the high intensity techniques without backfiring the training progress because of cns stress, and i don't care who you are. You still are a human being , subjected to the same biological laws applied to every person.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 28, 2006, 06:13:16 PM
i totally agree with this, if Milos's techniques work so well why are his arms so undersized compared to the other guys?

And the dumb just keep getting dumber!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 29, 2006, 03:32:24 AM
the mighty roll their eyes (is the poor slaves question beneath you?) and cant discuss a serious question. milos you have said on many occasions you want serious questions and not the usual bull, but when a serious question is asked you wont reply? can it be that your workouts are pseudo science facilitated by super honey?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 29, 2006, 03:36:47 AM
And the dumb just keep getting dumber!!

atleast he is asking questions opposed to you. sometimes questions are more important than answers because they make you think. without questions the doors to knowledge cant be opened. sure you still have to go thru the door to seek knowledge but first of all the door has to be opened before that can happen!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 29, 2006, 04:09:24 AM
atleast he is asking questions opposed to you. sometimes questions are more important than answers because they make you think. without questions the doors to knowledge cant be opened. sure you still have to go thru the door to seek knowledge but first of all the door has to be opened before that can happen!

i agree and milos is only showing his arrogance here.

before anyone accuses me of hating, take the time to look through the thread and you will see that i have showed plenty of respect to milos.

there is nothing wrong with asking q's no matte how stupid another might see them.

anyone that knows anything about muscle building knows that it's not an exact science.

the simple truth is that nobody (including milos) knows exactly what type of training will produce muscle growth every time.

if milos simply ignored such q's i can respect that because training advice is his business and it has a price tag. however, i have noticed that if anyone disagrees with his advice milos often will come on ridicule the poster and present an arrogant attitude.

milos, drop sets, giant sets, super slow, etc is NOTHING new. you certainly didn't invent the principles so pull your head in and bring that giant set ego down a few thousand decibels.

btw, hint: if you're going to put pics of yourself training on the internet people are going to critique. nothing new here. welcome to human nature 101.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2006, 04:12:09 AM
i dont doubt that going super slow is a pain in the ass, but so is running naked in the snow... at the end of they day the question is, is it worth it? does going super slow build more mass or strength or both and does running naked in the snow make improve your cardio more than running with your clothes on
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 29, 2006, 04:22:29 AM
i dont doubt that going super slow is a pain in the ass, but so is running naked in the snow... at the end of they day the question is, is it worth it? does going super slow build more mass or strength or both and does running naked in the snow make improve your cardio more than running with your clothes on


well we have to separate some things...another person said that super slow movements lowers chance of injury.i can understand the logic in thinking that as your forced to use lower weights and not using ballistic movements.. etc.. but,

 at same time i think "unnaturaly" slow movements can make some exercises more dangerous..take for example deadlifts if you try to lower weight to slow its more dangerous than to lower with "normal" speed. another aspect is that too strict and too slow movements can actually shift focus from the intended muscle group to another and will limit the weights to a high degree thus preventing intended muscle stimulation. example: ever seen the guys and girls that do 15lbs db curls extremely slow? they usually look like sticks.

i think "normal" rep cadence is best most of the time: not to fast and not to slow. also on some exercsise some cheating can actually be of benefit..for example on db curls..slight cheating motion is ok..not to much of course. but when doing squats cheating is not ok..etc.

the other aspect: intensity techniques such as giant set and drop set i discussed earlier.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 29, 2006, 04:47:16 AM
well we have to separate some things...another person said that super slow movements lowers chance of injury.i can understand the logic in thinking that as your forced to use lower weights and not using ballistic movements.. etc.. but,

 at same time i think "unnaturaly" slow movements can make some exercises more dangerous..take for example deadlifts if you try to lower weight to slow its more dangerous than to lower with "normal" speed. another aspect is that too strict and too slow movements can actually shift focus from the intended muscle group to another and will limit the weights to a high degree thus preventing intended muscle stimulation. example: ever seen the guys and girls that do 15lbs db curls extremely slow? they usually look like sticks.

i think "normal" rep cadence is best most of the time: not to fast and not to slow. also on some exercsise some cheating can actually be of benefit..for example on db curls..slight cheating motion is ok..not to much of course. but when doing squats cheating is not ok..etc.

the other aspect: intensity techniques such as giant set and drop set i discussed earlier.

agreed.

i could get the strongest person in the world reach failure curling a 10 lb d.b for 1 rep if he curls it slow enough.

it would be interesting to here milos try to explain just how slow the movement is and why ie 'i take 10 seconds with the eccentric portion of the rep.'

'but why not 11, 12 or 30 seconds milos?'

'ummm...'

'what the hell, why not do 30 minutes on the concentric and...'

'SHUT UP... ::) >:( :'('
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ether on December 29, 2006, 05:42:23 AM
it was meant as a serious reply milos and i would say that a higher number of straight sets would give better results than over use of giant sets and drop sets. sure doing a giant set of 5 biceps exercises will cause tremendous burn and lactic acid build and will be painful but the weights will drop so drastically that it would be better just to do straight sets of barbell curl. sure, barbell curls dont sound as "cool" as triple drop giant set of 5 biceps excercsis, but loading will be far superior combined with far less cns fatigue. overuse of intensity techniques such as you use (if used on regular basis) will act a bottlneck for muscle stimulation because cns fatigue will act as a limiting factor.


Milos arm training techniques are not to be questioned!

(http://www.vacmotorsports.com/db/images/val-racing-50.jpg)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2006, 06:50:47 AM
why not do explosive movements
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: nukkaready on December 29, 2006, 06:53:42 AM
if you have world class genetics ( as all pros do ) and you are hormonized to the MAX ( as all pros are ) you will grow on any training program. It really doesn;t matter much how you train at that level.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bear on December 29, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
atleast he is asking questions opposed to you. sometimes questions are more important than answers because they make you think. without questions the doors to knowledge cant be opened. sure you still have to go thru the door to seek knowledge but first of all the door has to be opened before that can happen!

Haha, you talk like a 15 year old or something.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Board_SHERIF on December 29, 2006, 07:12:57 AM
if you have world class genetics ( as all pros do ) and you are hormonized to the MAX ( as all pros are ) you will grow on any training program. It really doesn;t matter much how you train at that level.

Tom Prince had these world class genetics  :-\
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 29, 2006, 09:54:38 AM
i think "normal" rep cadence is best most of the time: not to fast and not to slow. also on some exercsise some cheating can actually be of benefit..for example on db curls..slight cheating motion is ok..not to much of course. but when doing squats cheating is not ok..etc.

but that's the question: where is that line? what's "normal"? one second up and down? two? one and a half? one second or so on the negative but as fast as you can go on the positive without cheating? you keep using these vague terms like "not too much" or "not too fast" but offer no way of defining them. you used deadlifts as an example of why going slow is bad but then acknowledge that curls and squats are different, so why are deadlifts an effective counterexample?

and you still haven't shown us any evidence why we should pay attention to you. you apparently have the art of bodybuilding mastered, why don't you show us where it's gotten you?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: War-Horse on December 29, 2006, 04:04:55 PM
Hmmm Interesting.    Someone mentioned the central nervous system in training.     They are exactly right.  Most pro's or big natty's like me will hit it super hard for maybe a week or so, then go medium intensity and a low intensity for a week....then back to high and so on.

Thats why most guys cant tell you what exercises they may do for a chest workout or any part....cuz its in the air till they hit the gym and see what "Feels right".   Ive stayed on the pec dek and done triple drop sets for ten sets....and made hardcore training partners wanna puke.

Other days its 10 exercises of 3 sets as many reps as you can get.

Its mostly genetics.  One of my freinds is samoan with 22" arms and trains as hard as i sleep....shit he just yawns....does a set of 405 benches and leaves to go take a nap. lol.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: knny187 on December 29, 2006, 05:06:57 PM
Pictures prove....


lifting with shitty form = pro bodybuilding




Time to change my training strategy
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: brianX on December 29, 2006, 05:20:39 PM

Milos arm training techniques are not to be questioned!

(http://www.vacmotorsports.com/db/images/val-racing-50.jpg)

hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BBody81 on December 29, 2006, 06:23:29 PM
Hey Milos.  Just wanted to say you still look great.  I saw you at the Excalibur, the begining of December, where I competed.  I was impressed the size you still hold.  Your workouts look and sound brutal.  I live about 3 hours away.  If your going to invite these little punks on here to workout with you at your gym, I was wondering if Im ever in the area, if I could let you kick my ass and let me workout with you guys.  I guarantee I would give 110%.  It would be an honor.  I also guarantee Im not a skinny little geek like 80% of the people who post on here.  I am an aspiring natural bodybuilder who competed in his first show this year.  Thank you.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 29, 2006, 07:23:23 PM
Hey Milos.  Just wanted to say you still look great.  I saw you at the Excalibur, the begining of December, where I competed.  I was impressed the size you still hold.  Your workouts look and sound brutal.  I live about 3 hours away.  If your going to invite these little punks on here to workout with you at your gym, I was wondering if Im ever in the area, if I could let you kick my ass and let me workout with you guys.  I guarantee I would give 110%.  It would be an honor.  I also guarantee Im not a skinny little geek like 80% of the people who post on here.  I am an aspiring natural bodybuilder who competed in his first show this year.  Thank you.
hahahahaha, i'm sure you're a monster, "bbody81". ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2006, 07:24:47 PM
hahahahaha, i'm sure you're a monster, "bbody81". ::)
he did set himself up for that one,be nice maybe he's the real deal.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 29, 2006, 07:32:25 PM
Somewhat unrelated to this thread but...

It'll be interesting to see if Milos will be able to unseat that Asian official whom he accused of fixing shows. Or if Milos will be banned or forced to apologize etc instead.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 29, 2006, 07:45:32 PM
Milos was subject to jail time.

His affect on bodybuilding is NOT a good thing.  You idiots on here who've talked about the "good" he's done for bodybuilding are fools.

Explain this "good" to me?  Breaking down drug-scemes/schedules with people?  Yeah...what a savior.

The guy is a modern-day apothacary.  Why any of you respect this "guru" is beyond me.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2006, 07:53:15 PM
fan of his physique 1st,how it got their and now is not for me to judge.savoir no but to people who need the guidance and method's to get their, he is the man to get them to their bbing goal's.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 29, 2006, 10:51:40 PM
#1) For few that don't realize - I do have a job...and not much time to answer every question that I am asked...

#2) My answers to just about ANY training, dieting, supplementation... questions are already posted on my board (certainly - many will conclude that they simply don't want to join my FREE board but still they would request and expect the answers from me - forgeting that "being nice" could be a slightly better choice ...for getting their questions answered...
I am secure enough NOT to be bothered by ANY comments - as I know who I am and what I stand for...so NO - I do not feel obligated to answer EVERY QUESTION that I am being asked - especially when I see that exact person who is demanding the answer is MORE than disrespectful...(to me and/or others)...

#3) It is pointless for me to go into discussion when someone ONLY ASSUMES thing (or two) about my training techniques, protocols, methods...If I will need to explain myself - I will have to spend hours - HOURS that I don't have...

#4) My challenges to little insecure ego's on this board (and we all know who they are) are for a reason...When they grow up they usually realize - AND MORE THAN LIKELY  (as it happened already so many times) - they will eventually write me an E-mail (or a PM) admitting that they were exactly insecure and few other things...
I commend them for that...and I am happy for them (at the same time - I am glad that I did make a difference)

#5) Training photos of me and many of my athletes are doing wonders to many people around the world - as I am getting constant feedback from numerous people who find those photos (and routines) quite inspirational...
For THEM - I keep taking photos and posting them on MY board (quite the job that takes TIME...but time spent for people that at least find something POSITIVE rather than many "getbigers" who only look for NEGATIVITY, meltdowns, criticism, hate...etc)

#6) My responses are usually to 'experts" who only see the amount of "brutal" weight that I (or my partners) are lifting...and explanations that weight used might be DUE TO some advanced technique used (giant set, drop set...or whatever else) - thus explaining the "weakness"...For those "inflated egos" I am always ready to issue the challenges - and they all know where they can find me..

#7) ::) - this is taking too much time...(I just finished just about craziest quad workout and I am not feeling too good...but feel "obligated" to respond to my true fans that love me so much...off course here on board...Calling me criminal, arrogant, no good, oil reservoir...and other lovely things...Oh well - they play "tough" but we all know that they love me...and who can blame them for that?)

#8) I think I am about finished...Oh yeah - AS FAR AS ASIAN OFFICIAL - yes - I am under the investigation by the IFBB by making some claims during the bodybuilding event in Doha, Qatar - during the Asian games...
Gentleman's name is Mr. Paul Chua and he is unquestionably guilty of fixing the shows in Asia for many years...
While I cannot talk about OTHER SHOWS - I certainly can talk about Doha and 2006 Asian games which I attended and witnessed it with my own eyes.
While subjectivity is KNOWN FACT in bodybuilding - it is distinclively different than bluntly FIXING the shows...
Now - I am working on PROVING MY CLAIMS and as soon as I do - Mr. Chua will be removed from his position...
To say it simply: If Mr. Chua wants Micky Mouse to beat Jay Cuttler in 2007 Mr. Olympia and he announces to the world that Micky is going to win...and that actually happens - I HOPE FEW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY...
I still believe that IFBB would NOT STAND for something like that - and that is WHY I am pursuing that issue as well...
BTW - numerous photos of that "FIXED" showare on my board...

#9) Just to comment: I was subject to jail time - as much as I was subject to Nobel Prize honors...or maybe Oscar's?

#10) I love you too... :-* - and I mean that...Really!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 29, 2006, 11:04:44 PM
#8) I think I am about finished...Oh yeah - AS FAR AS ASIAN OFFICIAL - yes - I am under the investigation by the IFBB by making some claims during the bodybuilding event in Doha, Qatar - during the Asian games...
Gentleman's name is Mr. Paul Chua and he is unquestionably guilty of fixing the shows in Asia for many years...
While I cannot talk about OTHER SHOWS - I certainly can talk about Doha and 2006 Asian games which I attended and witnessed it with my own eyes.
While subjectivity is KNOWN FACT in bodybuilding - it is distinclively different than bluntly FIXING the shows...
Now - I am working on PROVING MY CLAIMS and as soon as I do - Mr. Chua will be removed from his position...
To say it simply: If Mr. Chua wants Micky Mouse to beat Jay Cuttler in 2007 Mr. Olympia and he announces to the world that Micky is going to win...and that actually happens - I HOPE FEW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY...
I still believe that IFBB would NOT STAND for something like that - and that is WHY I am pursuing that issue as well...
BTW - numerous photos of that "FIXED" showare on my board...


I'm sure you are right but if he is buddies with Ben Weider and is a good money maker for the Weider's this might be a tough nut to crack.  :D Good luck.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 29, 2006, 11:09:22 PM
I'm sure you are right but if he is buddies with Ben Weider and is a good money maker for the Weider's this might be a tough nut to crack.  :D Good luck.

Tough nuts are still able to crack...And for me THE BEST to crack... ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 29, 2006, 11:13:29 PM
Hey Milos.  Just wanted to say you still look great.  I saw you at the Excalibur, the begining of December, where I competed.  I was impressed the size you still hold.  Your workouts look and sound brutal.  I live about 3 hours away.  If your going to invite these little punks on here to workout with you at your gym, I was wondering if Im ever in the area, if I could let you kick my ass and let me workout with you guys.  I guarantee I would give 110%.  It would be an honor.  I also guarantee Im not a skinny little geek like 80% of the people who post on here.  I am an aspiring natural bodybuilder who competed in his first show this year.  Thank you.

If you are EVER in the area - call [714/680-8881] and let me know that you are ON THE WAY...
I usually train in the afternoon...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BRUCE on December 30, 2006, 12:20:42 AM
Can I come too? :(
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: the shadow on December 30, 2006, 12:42:55 AM
yo milos are you gonna train with jay anytime soon...in 2004 you trained with ronnie coleman and posted alot of pics..so when are you gonna train with jay?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 03:21:30 AM
Milos's legs look small on those pics.

I don't think he's planning a comeback - he just likes to stay in shape by the look of it.

Small legs???? This picture taken with Jay only in October on the recent Euro Tour!!

Trust me!!! the man is making a comeback!!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 03:22:26 AM
As much as I love Milos (who doesn't?), I'm not sure if he'll able to bring the package that you need to place well in 2006. Mayhe he'll crack top 5 at the Arnold at best, but it feels like once you've reached your best in a certain time period (for Milos it was the mid-to-late 90's), you can't improve on that to the level of the next time period. Hey, hopefully I'm wrong.

Good luck Milos!

Top 5 Arnold is just terrible is'nt it!!! ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 03:26:48 AM
if he puts up all the money flying me out there, putting me up in a hotel, rents me a car, pays for my meals, etc. i'll come out and see what he's capable of.

I will put up half the cash!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 03:29:59 AM
The Milosification of bodybuilding has been one of it's downfalls over the last decade.  There is a reason why this guy is around every guy who's as wide in the waist as he is tall.  This guy's "advice" regarding drugs has provided the pro ranks with a PLETHORA of guys with 36+ inch waists (like Cutler). 

You mean MR OLYMPIA JAY CUTLER????
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2006, 04:31:13 AM
I will put up half the cash!!

I guess it's on, will be fun to see sarcasm back out of this one!  8)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: @Brandon on December 30, 2006, 05:52:50 AM
Milos have so much knowledge and competed for such a long time against the top pros.
To see internet nerds treat Milos with such direspect is quite sad.

Show Milos the same respect as you would if you met Milos IRL.



Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on December 30, 2006, 07:45:50 AM
obviously milos is coming back.

saying that mischko's legs are underpar while the man is wearing warm-up gear is just plain ignorant. to say it on a bbing board is ignorant beyond belief.

i believe that milos had one of the best mid sections in the business when in top form and, by the looks of that photo (with jay) it's still there.

considering the sad state of mid sections at the moment i would say that milos has good opportunity of presenting something a little more aesthetic. i just hope he doesn't blow it by chasing too much size.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 30, 2006, 07:58:33 AM
Can I come too? :(

The more - the merrier...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 08:01:29 AM
Milos have so much knowledge and competed for such a long time against the top pros.
To see internet nerds treat Milos with such direspect is quite sad.

Show Milos the same respect as you would if you met Milos IRL.




hahahaha, ok "tough guy". ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bigbuthealthy on December 30, 2006, 08:04:12 AM
Haha he's such an nutjob.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 30, 2006, 08:08:22 AM
hahahaha, ok "tough guy". ::)

hehehehe, ok "The Brutal Squatfeather" that means you are not comming for my "brutal challenge"?
How about if I curl what you can squat?
Put your money where your squat is... ;)

Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 08:09:53 AM
hehehehe, ok "The Brutal Squatfeather" that means you are not comming for my "brutal challenge"?
How about if I curl what you can squat?
Put your money where your squat is... ;)


you can curl 545 for 3?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: the shadow on December 30, 2006, 08:10:54 AM
hehehehe, ok "The Brutal Squatfeather" that means you are not comming for my "brutal challenge"?
How about if I curl what you can squat?
Put your money where your squat is... ;)


hahahah..why do you even reply to fagfathers stupid posts??..he is the dumbest redneck on this site..
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bigbuthealthy on December 30, 2006, 08:15:34 AM
hahahah..why do you even reply to fagfathers stupid posts??..he is the dumbest redneck on this site..

get back in your cage little butt pilote.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 30, 2006, 08:33:07 AM
hahahah..why do you even reply to fagfathers stupid posts??..he is the dumbest redneck on this site..

As everyone (including Squatfeather) has a "shadow"...(should I say - afraid of his own shadow?)...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 08:34:35 AM
As everyone (including Squatfeather) has a "shadow"...(should I say - afraid of his own shadow?)...

do you agree to all the demands i made for me coming out there, "big guy"?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: War-Horse on December 30, 2006, 09:41:40 AM
Milos...most of us on here know that this "sarcasm" or lately "squad father" is a fictional character used by many people on this board......a Troll account.

Your pics and the fact that people are invited to train with you, prove you are the real deal.   Having met you in person i can guarantee that you are waiting for the right opportunity to compete.

The pics i took in your gym came out dark and i couldnt post em...I'll be back in a few months and will use the flash......to be posted on the ron avidan website.........aka..... ..(The Circus )
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 30, 2006, 10:46:54 AM
do you agree to all the demands i made for me coming out there, "big guy"?

Absolutely - I even have a "half sponsor" Mr. Luke Wood "big ;D ;D ;D should I say guy ???"

When you grow something down there - off course...Until than it is going to be G-zillion excuses...(and WHY do we all already know that?)

Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 30, 2006, 10:51:35 AM
Milos...most of us on here know that this "sarcasm" or lately "squad father" is a fictional character used by many people on this board......a Troll account.

Your pics and the fact that people are invited to train with you, prove you are the real deal.   Having met you in person i can guarantee that you are waiting for the right opportunity to compete.

The pics i took in your gym came out dark and i couldnt post em...I'll be back in a few months and will use the flash......to be posted on the ron avidan website.........aka..... ..(The Circus )

Fictional character??? What a bummer...Oh well...He/she talks like a real character that actually believes his/hers lies...
Or is it - "I wish I have b..s /I mean some courage/ in real life" so I'll talk tough while hiding in a hole type of "getbig hero"...?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 30, 2006, 11:00:09 AM
Absolutely - I even have a "half sponsor" Mr. Luke Wood "big ;D ;D ;D should I say guy ???"

When you grow something down there - off course...Until than it is going to be G-zillion excuses...(and WHY do we all already know that?)



Darm Sarcasm,  he called you out.. And what will you do, haggle over the details to find a way out.

lol, we all know that TA will back out of fighting DA if he hasn't done so already

and we all know how this challenge by Milos will end... :-[
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 30, 2006, 11:01:11 AM
Absolutely - I even have a "half sponsor" Mr. Luke Wood "big ;D ;D ;D should I say guy ???"

When you grow something down there - off course...Until than it is going to be G-zillion excuses...(and WHY do we all already know that?)

well, the deal has been made. let's see where it goes. and he's a real guy, these people claiming community don't have any actual evidence.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 11:52:16 AM
Absolutely - I even have a "half sponsor" Mr. Luke Wood "big ;D ;D ;D should I say guy ???"

When you grow something down there - off course...Until than it is going to be G-zillion excuses...(and WHY do we all already know that?)


i'm accepting Milos, you pay the round trip airplane, flight, rental car, hotel, food expenses and we've got a deal, i'm going to show everybody what kind of panties you wear.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
i'm accepting Milos, you pay the round trip airplane, flight, rental car, hotel, food expenses and we've got a deal, i'm going to show everybody what kind of panties you wear.

Sarcasm!!! Milos has challenged you how many times now??? Even 3 times on this thread alone! You keep coming back with the same answer!! Flight, Rental Car, hotel, food expenses (But only bodybuilding food, if you know what that is??) etc! How many times does he have say YES, BRING IT!!! But the catch is this! If you quit just once (and trust me you will be crying like a little girl) than the deal is OFF!!! You reimburse! Thats how confident i am that myself and Milos will get our money back, but seeing you lying on the gym floor begging will be payment enough!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 30, 2006, 01:59:51 PM
oh shit, a wrinkle! this is getting exciting!  ;D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 03:40:09 PM
Sarcasm!!! Milos has challenged you how many times now??? Even 3 times on this thread alone! You keep coming back with the same answer!! Flight, Rental Car, hotel, food expenses (But only bodybuilding food, if you know what that is??) etc! How many times does he have say YES, BRING IT!!! But the catch is this! If you quit just once (and trust me you will be crying like a little girl) than the deal is OFF!!! You reimburse! Thats how confident i am that myself and Milos will get our money back, but seeing you lying on the gym floor begging will be payment enough!!
nope that ain't gonna happen my friend, besides my challenge was to Milos not you and none of this reimbursement bullshit, if i end up "crying" as you call it i'll come on here and say you guys are the greatest and i'm a little bitch, deal?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 30, 2006, 04:09:19 PM
nope that ain't gonna happen my friend, besides my challenge was to Milos not you and none of this reimbursement bullshit, if i end up "crying" as you call it i'll come on here and say you guys are the greatest and i'm a little bitch, deal?

well how confident are you? if you know you won't bitch out then there should be no problem.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 30, 2006, 04:10:35 PM
well how confident are you? if you know you won't bitch out then there should be no problem.
you know how these clowns are, they'll say squat 225 for 150 reps or something crazy like that, anyone would be on the ground after that.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 30, 2006, 04:17:45 PM
you know how these clowns are, they'll say squat 225 for 150 reps or something crazy like that, anyone would be on the ground after that.

there should be a stipulation, then, that anything you have to do, they do first. like a game of horse. if you can't match their shots then you lose the bet. that way they can't make you do something retarded they'd never do themselves.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2006, 04:21:29 PM
you know how these clowns are, they'll say squat 225 for 150 reps or something crazy like that, anyone would be on the ground after that.

one have to wonder when its about strength and when it ends up being about cardio
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 30, 2006, 04:27:57 PM
one have to wonder when its about strength and when it ends up being about cardio

definitely. i want to see this happen, and i want to see it be fair to all parties. pride is a bit too much to spend on a plane ticket, hotel, and a car out to CA. hell the plane ticket is going to be an easy $600 all by itself. at the same time, we can't have luke and milos trying to get SF to reimburse them because he couldn't do some ridiculous challenge they would NEVER actually do themselves.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: War-Horse on December 30, 2006, 05:59:11 PM
one have to wonder when its about strength and when it ends up being about cardio



Ive always said anything above 12 is cardio.  ;D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: SecondFocus on December 30, 2006, 06:18:17 PM
I suggest that anyone taking Milos up on a workout challenge wear something like a full motorcycle helmet. That way when you pass out (and you will) your head won't crack open when it hits the floor. Of course it will be tough in that helmet because you are also going to be vomiting.

I was at the Koloseum Gym doing a photo shoot for BodyBuilding.com and watched Milos lead a group of very serious guys through a leg workout. And it was with some of that light weight you guys are laughing about. I can tell you that nobody was laughing at about half way through.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Count Grishnackh on December 30, 2006, 09:07:30 PM
Stud - you have my personal invitation to come anytime and show us what you got...
I will take the challenge that whatever you can do with two arms or legs - I will do with SINGLE...

Deal?

Is this the challenge Milos? I'm confused you keep saying accept the challenge.

So if he squats 495 x 4, you will do that with 1 leg?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: In it 2 win it on December 30, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
except you vagina.... you couldnt hang 2 minutes you little pune
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 10:56:55 PM
As everyone (including Squatfeather) has a "shadow"...(should I say - afraid of his own shadow?)...

ROFL!!! LOOK AT HIS TERRIBLE FORM!! Mishko, i suggest you stick to toilet paper curls and chugging your doo doo shakes.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Dorian01 on December 30, 2006, 11:00:54 PM
there should be a stipulation, then, that anything you have to do, they do first. like a game of horse. if you can't match their shots then you lose the bet. that way they can't make you do something retarded they'd never do themselves.
They are "walking pharmacies" and SF has perhaps been clean for a long time. naturals can't train like drug abusers.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 11:02:31 PM
They are "walking pharmacies" and SF has perhaps been clean for a long time. naturals can't train like drug abusers.
Agreed, Mishko is all drugs and crappy Croatian music.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 11:16:26 PM
Back in 1991 I had 15 inch arms...still made it to Olympia stage ;)
ROFL!!! 15 INCH PYTHONS WITH SYNTHOL!!! Mishko= noob.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 30, 2006, 11:18:03 PM
Agreed, Mishko is all drugs and crappy Croatian music.

Croation??? ::) ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
I recollect an occasion i was watching the fit show with mishko on bb.com and he was training these 2 women. It looked real intense  ::). No one was vomiting and he was getting angry because no one was getting sick. In fact i didn't see anyone struggle.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 11:28:56 PM
Croation??? ::) ::)
No... that would be Croatian.... idiot
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 30, 2006, 11:35:33 PM
No... that would be Croatian.... idiot
Milos, are you going to cry to Ron in hopes of getting me put in time out again?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 31, 2006, 03:13:55 AM
No... that would be Croatian.... idiot

Idiot!!! Who spelt it Croatian as Croation??? ;D ;D

Let me inform you idiot!! Milos is Serbian!! and no they are not the same! ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 31, 2006, 05:01:17 AM
#1) For few that don't realize - I do have a job...and not much time to answer every question that I am asked...

#2) My answers to just about ANY training, dieting, supplementation... questions are already posted on my board (certainly - many will conclude that they simply don't want to join my FREE board but still they would request and expect the answers from me - forgeting that "being nice" could be a slightly better choice ...for getting their questions answered...
I am secure enough NOT to be bothered by ANY comments - as I know who I am and what I stand for...so NO - I do not feel obligated to answer EVERY QUESTION that I am being asked - especially when I see that exact person who is demanding the answer is MORE than disrespectful...(to me and/or others)...

#3) It is pointless for me to go into discussion when someone ONLY ASSUMES thing (or two) about my training techniques, protocols, methods...If I will need to explain myself - I will have to spend hours - HOURS that I don't have...

#4) My challenges to little insecure ego's on this board (and we all know who they are) are for a reason...When they grow up they usually realize - AND MORE THAN LIKELY  (as it happened already so many times) - they will eventually write me an E-mail (or a PM) admitting that they were exactly insecure and few other things...
I commend them for that...and I am happy for them (at the same time - I am glad that I did make a difference)

#5) Training photos of me and many of my athletes are doing wonders to many people around the world - as I am getting constant feedback from numerous people who find those photos (and routines) quite inspirational...
For THEM - I keep taking photos and posting them on MY board (quite the job that takes TIME...but time spent for people that at least find something POSITIVE rather than many "getbigers" who only look for NEGATIVITY, meltdowns, criticism, hate...etc)

#6) My responses are usually to 'experts" who only see the amount of "brutal" weight that I (or my partners) are lifting...and explanations that weight used might be DUE TO some advanced technique used (giant set, drop set...or whatever else) - thus explaining the "weakness"...For those "inflated egos" I am always ready to issue the challenges - and they all know where they can find me..

#7) ::) - this is taking too much time...(I just finished just about craziest quad workout and I am not feeling too good...but feel "obligated" to respond to my true fans that love me so much...off course here on board...Calling me criminal, arrogant, no good, oil reservoir...and other lovely things...Oh well - they play "tough" but we all know that they love me...and who can blame them for that?)

#8) I think I am about finished...Oh yeah - AS FAR AS ASIAN OFFICIAL - yes - I am under the investigation by the IFBB by making some claims during the bodybuilding event in Doha, Qatar - during the Asian games...
Gentleman's name is Mr. Paul Chua and he is unquestionably guilty of fixing the shows in Asia for many years...
While I cannot talk about OTHER SHOWS - I certainly can talk about Doha and 2006 Asian games which I attended and witnessed it with my own eyes.
While subjectivity is KNOWN FACT in bodybuilding - it is distinclively different than bluntly FIXING the shows...
Now - I am working on PROVING MY CLAIMS and as soon as I do - Mr. Chua will be removed from his position...
To say it simply: If Mr. Chua wants Micky Mouse to beat Jay Cuttler in 2007 Mr. Olympia and he announces to the world that Micky is going to win...and that actually happens - I HOPE FEW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY...
I still believe that IFBB would NOT STAND for something like that - and that is WHY I am pursuing that issue as well...
BTW - numerous photos of that "FIXED" showare on my board...

#9) Just to comment: I was subject to jail time - as much as I was subject to Nobel Prize honors...or maybe Oscar's?

#10) I love you too... :-* - and I mean that...Really!



while i understand everything wasnt meant for me...it can basically be summarized as "no..i wont discuss my methods..or maybe I cant rationally defend them. "
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ether on December 31, 2006, 06:19:17 AM
Let me inform you idiot!! Milos is Serbian!! and no they are not the same! ::)

Maybe once that region gets a little stability, we'll know what to call him.

But, as for now, serbian - croat - bosnian = all the same fucking thing to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 31, 2006, 06:20:19 AM
Maybe once that region gets a little stability, we'll know what to call him.

But, as for now, serbian - croat - bosnian = all the same fucking thing to the rest of the world.
no its not..only to ignorant white trash americans like you  :-*
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ether on December 31, 2006, 06:37:36 AM
no its not..only to ignorant white trash americans like you  :-*

You weren't saying that when we came to bail your ass out of jail when the real Milos (ovic) was runnin' thangs.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 31, 2006, 07:04:18 AM
im not from ex yugoslavia
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BBody81 on December 31, 2006, 07:24:32 AM
Milos,
     What are you training Wednesay 1/3 or Thursday 1/4.  Around what time do you train.  I would need to know, because I live about 3 hours away and to switch my body split for this week.  This would be awesome and an honor.  People wouldn't believe that I trained with Milos Sarcev.  Oh, would Luke Wood be there?   
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: mantronik on December 31, 2006, 07:53:13 AM
Luke is coming later in January, but you might see Hidetada Yamagishi and Joel Stubbs who are there now.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on December 31, 2006, 07:59:04 AM
They are "walking pharmacies" and SF has perhaps been clean for a long time. naturals can't train like drug abusers.
i havent touched a thing in over three years and even then it was only three bottles of QV Enanthate over the period of around 4 months and before that it had been a year before i'd used anything but i do have one thing that these drug queers don't and that's heart and balls, whatever those clowns do i will try to duplicate, obviously i won't be able to touch the weights that Luke probably throws around on pressing movements but i'll do my best.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MisterMagoo on December 31, 2006, 10:46:32 AM
i havent touched a thing in over three years and even then it was only three bottles of QV Enanthate over the period of around 4 months and before that it had been a year before i'd used anything but i do have one thing that these drug queers don't and that's heart and balls, whatever those clowns do i will try to duplicate, obviously i won't be able to touch the weights that Luke probably throws around on pressing movements but i'll do my best.

luke isn't part of the deal, i don't think. he might be there and a part of the workout, but this is all you and milos. throwing luke into the situation ain't kosher.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 31, 2006, 02:51:33 PM


while i understand everything wasnt meant for me...it can basically be summarized as "no..i wont discuss my methods..or maybe I cant rationally defend them. "

 ;D

Try: "no...I wont discuss rocket science to a 2 year-old kid that knows maybe what rocket looks like...at best..."
However - there is always possibility for the parents of the two year old to hire me for the phone or personal consultation (my job BTW ::)) if their newborn really wants to play with "APOLO'S"... ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 31, 2006, 03:00:18 PM
i'm accepting Milos, you pay the round trip airplane, flight, rental car, hotel, food expenses and we've got a deal, i'm going to show everybody what kind of panties you wear.

Than it is accepted.
Where do I send the money? ::)

Oooops - are we running into a little problem?
Or should I just send undisclosed amount of money to "Mr. X" at some PO Box?

As I do not want to waste more time (I am ready for challenge now - and don't want to get much older...after all time is the only thing that is NOT on my side...) - let's organize it right away...

I'll also throw in Disneyland pass for you and your twin 13-year old brother...as a sign of my gratitude...
If you behave - I might even pay for your picture with Mickey...

Anyway - to expedite everything:
Name, address, phone number (of your parents - off course...). After all your parents will need to sign for that round trip ticket...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on December 31, 2006, 03:07:54 PM
Milos,
     What are you training Wednesay 1/3 or Thursday 1/4.  Around what time do you train.  I would need to know, because I live about 3 hours away and to switch my body split for this week.  This would be awesome and an honor.  People wouldn't believe that I trained with Milos Sarcev.  Oh, would Luke Wood be there?   

Like my good friend mantronik said i will be there late Jan. The 27th to be exact and i will be training with Milos, Hide and Everett and the workouts i can tell you will as hardcore as ever!!!  :o 8) :)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 31, 2006, 03:11:32 PM
Idiot!!! Who spelt it Croatian as Croation??? ;D ;D

Let me inform you idiot!! Milos is Serbian!! and no they are not the same! ::)
I did no such thing... You sir are the moron.
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Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 31, 2006, 03:12:35 PM
;D

Try: "no...I wont discuss rocket science to a 2 year-old kid that knows maybe what rocket looks like...at best..."
However - there is always possibility for the parents of the two year old to hire me for the phone or personal consultation (my job BTW ::)) if their newborn really wants to play with "APOLO'S"... ;)
Hey Mishko.... "Muh namuh Borat..... I croatian bodybuilder who do toilet paper curls, disco dance, and i preformuh rape!"
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 31, 2006, 03:26:11 PM
I suggest that anyone taking Milos up on a workout challenge wear something like a full motorcycle helmet. That way when you pass out (and you will) your head won't crack open when it hits the floor. Of course it will be tough in that helmet because you are also going to be vomiting.

I was at the Koloseum Gym doing a photo shoot for BodyBuilding.com and watched Milos lead a group of very serious guys through a leg workout. And it was with some of that light weight you guys are laughing about. I can tell you that nobody was laughing at about half way through.

 ;D ;D ;D

I didn't know you post here...
Well, you witnessed actual taping of the next hardcore episode for the Fitshow...and YES - we were all in trouble (myself included)...but I will let them see the show first...

Someone mentioned arm training with the ladies - being a "cake walk" and I must say due to the way the show was filmed - nobody got the idea of the ACTUAL workout...
So - we had to do it again - and please look for the next ARMS HARDCORE EPISODE of the FITSHOW (this time with guys)...to get the idea of the intensity...

Ladies (Christina and Mona) were doing PROGRESSIVE GIANT SETS.
They would start with superset of one exercise EACH for biceps and triceps...than in their next set (after short rest = 30 seconds) they would repeat previous superset (using slightly heavier weight) + add one more exercise for biceps and one more for triceps [making it a "giant set" consisted of 4 different exercises - without any rest (OK - max 5 seconds) in between]...

After short rest (45 seconds) they would attempt next giant set - this time repeating previous 4 exercises (with slightly heavier weight) + adding 2 more exercises on top...

After short rest (60 seconds) they would attempt next giant set - this time repeating previous 6 exercises (with slightly heavier weight) + adding 2 more exercises on top...

ETC...ETC...ETC...

Their final giant set would be 10 exercises for biceps and 10 for triceps...ON THE GOOD DAY...or 6 + 6 on the average day...

This is just an example...

Hardcore Arms training that we did few weeks ago for the FITSHOW was dramatically harder than this one - and it was taped as actual training.
If you remember - I have been preparing two exceptional Malaysian bodybuilders for the Asian Games - and that was scheduled arm training for them - so I invited Fitshow Crew to come and tape it - for YOU GUYS (bodybuilding fans) ONLY...

Off course I did it so everyone can comment about "brutal" weight, nonsense approach, worthless training principles, stupidity and few other things associated with my work and extreme love and understanding of my getbig fans...

So - enjoy it...

BTW - I think that SOME photos of that actual training session are already posted on my board...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: davidpaul on December 31, 2006, 03:29:28 PM
Milos and Luke wood are very cool people in my book.

Milos your training pics are very inspirartional brother 8)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Buttsuck on December 31, 2006, 03:40:34 PM
;D ;D ;D

I didn't know you post here...
Well, you witnessed actual taping of the next hardcore episode for the Fitshow...and YES - we were all in trouble (myself included)...but I will let them see the show first...

Someone mentioned arm training with the ladies - being a "cake walk" and I must say due to the way the show was filmed - nobody got the idea of the ACTUAL workout...
So - we had to do it again - and please look for the next ARMS HARDCORE EPISODE of the FITSHOW (this time with guys)...to get the idea of the intensity...

Ladies (Christina and Mona) were doing PROGRESSIVE GIANT SETS.
They would start with superset of one exercise EACH for biceps and triceps...than in their next set (after short rest = 30 seconds) they would repeat previous superset (using slightly heavier weight) + add one more exercise for biceps and one more for triceps [making it a "giant set" consisted of 4 different exercises - without any rest (OK - max 5 seconds) in between]...

After short rest (45 seconds) they would attempt next giant set - this time repeating previous 4 exercises (with slightly heavier weight) + adding 2 more exercises on top...

After short rest (60 seconds) they would attempt next giant set - this time repeating previous 6 exercises (with slightly heavier weight) + adding 2 more exercises on top...

ETC...ETC...ETC...

Their final giant set would be 10 exercises for biceps and 10 for triceps...ON THE GOOD DAY...or 6 + 6 on the average day...

This is just an example...

Hardcore Arms training that we did few weeks ago for the FITSHOW was dramatically harder than this one - and it was taped as actual training.
If you remember - I have been preparing two exceptional Malaysian bodybuilders for the Asian Games - and that was scheduled arm training for them - so I invited Fitshow Crew to come and tape it - for YOU GUYS (bodybuilding fans) ONLY...

Off course I did it so everyone can comment about "brutal" weight, nonsense approach, worthless training principles, stupidity and few other things associated with my work and extreme love and understanding of my getbig fans...

So - enjoy it...

BTW - I think that SOME photos of that actual training session are already posted on my board...
Yeah... right. Those ladies weren't even sweating. Monster 5 lbs supersetted dumbell curls. ROFL!!!! "Muh namuh Mishko; I Crotian bodybuilders from Serbia. I enjoy uhhhh a disco dance, a toilet paper curls, anda rape."
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 31, 2006, 07:26:23 PM
;D

Try: "no...I wont discuss rocket science to a 2 year-old kid that knows maybe what rocket looks like...at best..."
However - there is always possibility for the parents of the two year old to hire me for the phone or personal consultation (my job BTW ::)) if their newborn really wants to play with "APOLO'S"... ;)

are you stuck in a regressive state milos?  :-*. still cant answer the questions?..and dont confuse me with other people who have made baseless attacks on you...dont lump us together. but i can understand that when you feel defensive ..you get tunnelvision.

Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on December 31, 2006, 08:31:54 PM
are you stuck in a regressive state milos?  :-*. still cant answer the questions?..and dont confuse me with other people who have made baseless attacks on you...dont lump us together. but i can understand that when you feel defensive ..you get tunnelvision.



Am I too expensive to find out?
Don't confuse "can't" with "don't want to"...

Is APOLO 13 your favorite?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 31, 2006, 08:37:02 PM
The "intensity" part of that post a few back was probably the funniest part of this whole damn thread.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 01, 2007, 06:49:50 AM
Am I too expensive to find out?
Don't confuse "can't" with "don't want to"...

Is APOLO 13 your favorite?

if you are expensive? yeah i have seen your rates so i think so...but it depends on the results you deliver, if you deliver good results it will save alot of years frustration for people. I didnt confuse can't with don't want to, i was asking if it was a can't situtation.

Apollo 13?, are you refering to the  movie or the real thing? If you are talking about the movie, no i dont like it.


Soon when i have time i will post a series of mindless high intensity routines in honor of you mr sarcev.
Im not sure what to call the training series yet..but it will come to me
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: SecondFocus on January 01, 2007, 08:19:03 AM
;D ;D ;D

I didn't know you post here...
Well, you witnessed actual taping of the next hardcore episode for the Fitshow...and YES - we were all in trouble (myself included)...but I will let them see the show first...

I post mostly on BodyBuilding.com but take a look here now and again. I don't post much however, unless there is a point or something specific to say. I did get a laugh out of the "monsters" here who think that they are going to keep up with you. In my best conditioning which was about 2 years ago, I could have come close but not now for sure.
Title: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 06, 2007, 09:25:30 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 09:28:36 AM
Did you throw up also? ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:30:10 AM
Milos,

Thank you for sharing some of your Knowledge with us yesterday. You are a Genius in the Fitness Industry.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:30:20 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!


Milos' training is basically to do giant sets with about 10 exercises for one bodypart with no rest, right?  

Can you please post a larger version of the first pic, because it's small so when I try to zoom in to make the face actual size and make out with my monitor it becomes pixely.  
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: finurface on April 06, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
all this propaganda for milos is pathetic.
Are u guys getting paid to say all these bullshits?

how training with him is different or more effective than training alone or with someone else?
Does that mean you ve never been able to feel all the fibers of your muscles after a workout till now?
how's training with light weights for high reps for two hours per body part revolutionary?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Stavios on April 06, 2007, 09:33:03 AM
all this propaganda for milos is pathetic.
Are u guys getting paid to say all these bullshits?

how training with him is different or more effective than training alone or with someone else?
Does that mean you ve never been able to feel all the fibers of your muscles after a workout till now?
how's training with light weights for high reps for two hours per body part revolutionary?

ok "finurface"  ::)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:33:26 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!

So only a few dozen people in the world have ever worked out?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: finurface on April 06, 2007, 09:34:54 AM
ok "finurface"  ::)
ok "stavios"  ::)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:35:27 AM
all this propaganda for milos is pathetic.
Are u guys getting paid to say all these bullshits?

how training with him is different or more effective than training alone or with someone else?
Does that mean you ve never been able to feel all the fibers of your muscles after a workout till now?
how's training with light weights for high reps for two hours per body part revolutionary?

We have respect for other members of this board We will never use propaganda. I do understand that you are skeptical, but Milos is an expert ....no coincidence that other PRO's use his help.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 06, 2007, 09:37:37 AM
His workout methods are very different
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:38:50 AM
We have respect for other members of this board We will never use propaganda. I do understand that you are skeptical, but Milos is an expert ....no coincidence that other PRO's use his help.

Perhaps if Ronnie Coleman started doing giant sets he could compete at 320, or if Yates had known that straight sets with heavy weight was not as effective he could have competed at 300?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:41:50 AM
I guess .....Silvio, Luke, Gustavo, Hieda,Sammi....among other PRO's are also shocked by his Knowledge and ability to change PRO level bodies
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Stavios on April 06, 2007, 09:44:26 AM
Tamer, you look awesome dude
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:44:37 AM
Perhaps if Ronnie Coleman started doing giant sets he could compete at 320, or if Yates had known that straight sets with heavy weight was not as effective he could have competed at 300?

Severl Methods of trainning are effective to buid a Great physique...HIT , HVT and so on. Milos have developed a new option to people.And one that is very effective that all
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:45:00 AM
I guess .....Silvio, Luke, Gustavo, Hieda,Sammi....among other PRO's are also shocked by his Knowledge and ability to change PRO level bodies

Crazy, if only Ronnie knew that then...then Jay would definitely have no chance against him.

I'm sure his methods work great, but as long as the greatest few pros in the world like Ronnie, Jay, Yates, etc. (greater than Milos, Silvio, Luke, Gustavo, Hieda, Sammi) use straight sets with heavy weights I dont see how one can be convinced that Milos' methods will give better results.  
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:45:57 AM
Tamer, you look awesome dude

Thank you Stavios I appreciate your respect
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:46:20 AM
Severl Methods of trainning are effective to buid a Great physique...HIT , HVT and so on. Milos have developed a new option to people.And one that is very effective that all

I understand that--and that's why I acknowledged that I'm sure his methods work great...but I don't see any reason to believe they work greater than other's methods which do not cost $500/hr to learn or take as many sets to complete.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Chick on April 06, 2007, 09:49:34 AM
I understand that--and that's why I acknowledged that I'm sure his methods work great...but I don't see any reason to believe they work greater than other's methods which do not cost $500/hr to learn or take as many sets to complete.

The key to Milos' training methods are his EXPERIENCE..over 25 years. THAT is what people are paying for. Anyone can come up with some new 3-letter training "system"...always works on paper.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on April 06, 2007, 09:50:02 AM
Severl Methods of trainning are effective to buid a Great physique...HIT , HVT and so on. Milos have developed a new option to people.And one that is very effective that all

It's really nothing new (not to take away from Milo's) it's a variation of something that's been around for years and since the people think that heavier is better for some reason, they are afraid to try something new light training lighter with more intensity, but I'm understanding his training correctly, he's tri-setting the same bodyparts.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: finurface on April 06, 2007, 09:50:39 AM
I guess .....Silvio, Luke, Gustavo, Hieda,Sammi....among other PRO's are also shocked by his Knowledge and ability to change PRO level bodies
they are shocked to feel their muscles for the firstime  since they only injected till now to make their muscles grow...

in fact they just discovered that training with light weights for hours make you feel your muscles more than with heavy weights, wow , what stunning news....


all these bullshits  make no sense at all, plus its absolutely uninteresting to see people who are juiced to the gills come here and say how it makes em feel more muscular and efficient to train with the revolutionary training technics of  their new god/guru "milos".

I mean, do you sometimes read what you re typing?

Bullshits, bullshits, and bullshits... and you guys keep constantly coming here and feed people with obvious and uninteresting bullcraps ...


go inject and stop trying to fool the sheeps on here, most of us dont buy it since a long time.

your constant self promotion and politically correct bullshits are annoying.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
I understand that--and that's why I acknowledged that I'm sure his methods work great...but I don't see any reason to believe they work greater than other's methods which do not cost $500/hr to learn or take as many sets to complete.

One of the most sad thing in the fitness industry is that guys like Milos actual Genius on the field have a hard time getting paid while  people pay hundrends and hundrends of dollars to some pathetic trainers in some studios in Beverly Hills. You guys know what I am talking about.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 09:54:57 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!


Don't flatter yourself. You are not that hot.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:55:25 AM
One of the most sad thing in the fitness industry is that guys like Milos actual Genius on the field have a hard time getting paid while  people pay hundrends and hundrends of dollars to some pathetic trainers in some studios in Beverly Hills. You guys know what I am talking about.

I would much rather pay someone like Ronnie, Nasser, or Yates $200-$300/hr than Milos $500/hr.  They have more experience and placed higher.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dr. D on April 06, 2007, 09:55:44 AM
Don't flatter yourself. You are not that hot.

HAHAHA!!!!!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 06, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
It's really nothing new (not to take away from Milo's) it's a variation of something that's been around for years and since the people think that heavier is better for some reason, they are afraid to try something new light training lighter with more intensity, but I'm understanding his training correctly, he's tri-setting the same bodyparts.

With all due respect, sir, I believe that you have to train, and study his methods before making such an assumption
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 09:58:16 AM
The negative replies are only because of the exaggerated claims with Milos' training.  

In conclusion, Milos' methods work great, but no reason to believe they work greater than heavy, straight sets.

Therefore, it's false to say, "If you have not worked out with Milos you have not yet worked out, PERIOD!!"

If only Ronnie realized that he has not yet worked out in his life and that he should swap his current training for giant sets.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
I would much rather pay someone like Ronnie, Nasser, or Yates $200-$300/hr than Milos $500/hr.  They have more experience and placed higher.

I don't believe is a co-relation between placing and Knowledge.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 06, 2007, 10:00:25 AM
Don't flatter yourself. You are not that hot.

That is so sad that you have to resort to a comment of such nature due to lack of your ability to debate subject at hand!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 10:04:51 AM
The negative replies are only because of the exaggerated claims with Milos' training.  

In conclusion, Milos' methods work great, but no reason to believe they work greater than heavy, straight sets.

Therefore, it's false to say, "If you have not worked out with Milos you have not yet worked out, PERIOD!!"

If only Ronnie realized that he has not yet worked out in his life and that he should swap his current training for giant sets.

Every PRO athlete in the World changes constantly their methods of trainning if you obsever Ronnie has dramatically change his workout. Chad N. has incorporate a higher volume trainning to Ronnie work out. Jay has use several different changes.
When We say that if you have not work out Milos you have not work out yet....We mean this is something NEW and Great that you should try to incorporate to your work out sometimes. It will shock your body differently.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Man of Steel on April 06, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
Don't flatter yourself. You are not that hot.

AHAHHHAH!!!  Quality
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:09:48 AM
How do you know Ronny doesn't workout like Milos and co.? Have you ever worked out with Ronny, or just read his Flex articles and watched his fantabolous videos? You trust those media?

My friend keeps saying the same thing...Ronny lifts heavy cuz I watched all his videos and read his articles in the magazines. Uh, right. You'll never truly know unless you actually workout with Ronny for a prolonged amount of time.

You really think he wants everyone to know that he does actually workout with pink dumbells from time to time? Talk about blowing his image.



I don't think Ronnie would mislead his fans and tell them to train in the 8-15 rep range when in fact he does giant sets like Milos.  Ronnie has given seminars, Train with Ronnie weekend, etc., on how he trains. 

Are you saying there's a big conspiracy between all pros in that giant sets are the best way for growth but every pro keeps it to themself except for Milos?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:11:53 AM
Every PRO athlete in the World changes constantly their methods of trainning if you obsever Ronnie has dramatically change his workout. Chad N. has incorporate a higher volume trainning to Ronnie work out. Jay has use several different changes.
When We say that if you have not work out Milos you have not work out yet....We mean this is something NEW and Great that you should try to incorporate to your work out sometimes. It will shock your body differently.

Okay, so I think we're somewhat on the same page now--sounds like you are agreeing that there's no reason to believe that training with giant sets give greater results than heavy, straight sets and instead concluding that it's best to change your workouts between heavy and high reps from time to time.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:15:31 AM
I don't believe is a co-relation between placing and Knowledge.

In that case we should just get trained by Vince Goodrum CSN MFT lol
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:17:13 AM
Believe what you want, but yea. It's the same conspiracy as the one where supermodels have all their magazine photos airbrushed before they are put in. Or the news overdramatizes whatever they're reporting on.

Hype sells magazines, videos, and like you said: seminars. Pink dumbells don't.



Most pros do not train alone where nobody can see how they train.  There is no way they would have a conspiracy whereby the each train with giant sets but lie to fans that they use heavy, straight sets lol.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
You really got to work on your logical deductions. Fuck I hate debating with morons.

You're on your own...bah!



Guess you're not the only one who gets agitated and angry over an e-debate.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 10:19:18 AM
Please give me approval Debussey. If not for my looks, at least for my "intellectual" ability.

In your dreams honey.



You really got to work on your logical deductions. Fuck I hate debating with morons.

You're on your own...bah!



Morons suck!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:20:54 AM
Conclusion.
YOU GUYS ARE STUPID.
Both Straight heavy sets and Miloss Giant Sets work.
Its matter of mind and muscle connection with strong imagination.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:22:58 AM
Conclusion.
YOU GUYS ARE STUPID.
Both Straight heavy sets and Miloss Giant Sets work.
Its matter of mind and muscle connection with strong imagination.

Read the actual thread before making conclusions like that.  I said more than once that both Milos' methods and straight sets work well.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:27:09 AM
Read the actual thread before making conclusions like that.  I said more than once that both Milos' methods and straight sets work well.
Right. Sorry.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
In your dreams honey.



Morons suck!

Debussey do not use someone else acct and name. Zhanna has never said that statment. If you don't like Milos trainnig because you never tried or because nerd chicken. That is fine. I will be sad if I look like you too. Stop hating
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:33:04 AM
Right. Sorry.

No prob.

These debates only start when people make outrageous claims like Zhanna saying that if you have not yet worked out with Milos you have not worked out "PERIOD!!", Evil Angel agreeing that Dorian would probably have competed at 300 lbs onstage had he used giant sets, or garreth saying there's a "conspiracy" among pros in that everybody uses giant sets but no one wants to admit it.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 10:36:13 AM
Debussey do not use someone else acct and name. Zhanna has never said that statment. If you don't like Milos trainnig because you never tried or because nerd chicken. That is fine. I will be sad if I look like you too. Stop hating


haha, how cute. You are trying to defend your little "girlfriend".

So.. your next step = an attempt to get into her pants?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 10:41:50 AM

haha, how cute. You are trying to defend your little "girlfriend".

So.. your next step = an attempt to get into her pants?

I am no trying to defend anybody. Just stay on the subject that all. Let's move on
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:43:26 AM
No prob.

These debates only start when people make outrageous claims like Zhanna saying that if you have not yet worked out with Milos you have not worked out "PERIOD!!", Evil Angel agreeing that Dorian would probably have competed at 300 lbs onstage had he used giant sets, or garreth saying there's a "conspiracy" among pros in that everybody uses giant sets but no one wants to admit it.
Yeah,I want her to say samething to Ronnie and Jay. ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 10:46:04 AM
I am no trying to defend anybody. Just stay on the subject that all. Let's move on

Bite me Shorty.

Garraeth: What if Gary Busey joins you and Milosh at teh workouts? And perhaps some aliens? (Like Gary Lane).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on April 06, 2007, 10:47:06 AM
With all due respect, sir, I believe that you have to train, and study his methods before making such an assumption

I said the assumption that I made had variations, I didn't say it was exact.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 06, 2007, 10:47:14 AM
Sweet Jesus you're hot!!!!!  I would love to show you a very intense workout maybe 4 or 5 times!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
Yeah,I want her to say samething to Ronnie and Jay. ;D

Well according to Garreth, Ronnie and Jay are conspiring by working out with giant sets and lying to everyone that they do use heavy straight sets lol.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:51:07 AM
Well according to Garreth, Ronnie and Jay are conspiring by working out with giant sets and lying to everyone that they do use heavy straight sets lol.
Oh no. Did he say that(I am enogh razy to read back...)?
Its pure logic. If Ron do those Miloss giant set, he wouldnt have injured his back.
One of the biggest guy now a day,Branch Warren also.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 10:52:06 AM
Well according to Garreth Ronnie and Jay are conspiring by working out with giant sets and lying to everyone that they do use heavy straight sets lol.

Look this very simple all athlete use different methods of trainning. If someone Says that HIT is the best trainning method or HVT or Doogcrap they don't understand that body's necessity to change and adapt to the stimillus produce on the Muscles. Milos has developted a NEW style that should be incorporated to the serious trainers. The excessive use of one Method will clearly limit you progress. Milos has Developed a NEW option. THAT ALL
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 10:54:34 AM
haha, that's be kewl! But don't ask me...it's Milos' call


Debussey and Milosh = homies. This thing can in theory be arranged (if the aliens cooperate, and they should do after all those years they abducted Debussey and used the anal probe on it). Perhaps we can get an anal probe demonstration from the aliens as well.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:55:06 AM
Look this very simple all athlete use different methods of trainning. If someone Says that HIT is the best trainning method or HVT or Doogcrap they don't understand that body's necessity to change and adapt to the stimillus produce on the Muscles. Milos has developted a NEW style that should be incorporated to the serious trainers. The excessive use of one Method will clearly limit you progress. Milos has Developed a NEW option. THAT ALL
As usual. wise comment. Maybe this fall, i will ask you some tips for preparation.Help me dude.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:55:27 AM
Look this very simple all athlete use different methods of trainning. If someone Says that HIT is the best trainning method or HVT or Doogcrap they don't understand that body's necessity to change and adapt to the stimillus produce on the Muscles. Milos has developted a NEW style that should be incorporated to the serious trainers. The excessive use of one Method will clearly limit you progress. Milos has Developed a NEW option. THAT ALL

Good Evil Angel, so you're going back on when you said, "I guess," in response to me questioning whether Dorian would be able to compete at 300 if he used giant sets.  Like I said earlier, I think we're on the same page now.

If you and Zhanna's attitude really is that all methods work and we should try them all, then she should not have posted such bold statements at the start of the thread.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 10:56:54 AM
As usual. wise comment. Maybe this fall, i will ask you some tips for preparation.Help me dude.

I would love to help.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
Oh no. Did he say that(I am enogh razy to read back...)?
Its pure logic. If Ron do those Miloss giant set, he wouldnt have injured his back.
One of the biggest guy now a day,Branch Warren also.

Yeah he did, read his replies on page 2.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 10:58:41 AM
Good Evil Angel, so you're going back on when you said, "I guess," in response to me questioning whether Dorian would be able to compete at 300 if he used giant sets.  Like I said earlier, I think we're on the same page now.

If you and Zhanna's attitude really is that all methods work and we should try them all, then she should not have posted such bold statements at the start of the thread.
I think she didnt mean that like you think.
Just she might did over exaggerate emphasis with excesive emmotion.
Thats why she might wrote like that.
I assume...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 06, 2007, 10:58:52 AM
Can you post close up photos of your ass?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 10:59:57 AM
Can you post close up photos of your ass?

I don't think it'll work, I already asked for closeups of the face so I can make out with my monitor but she hasn't responded.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 11:01:23 AM
I would love to help.
Thanx.Maybe same category(weight class) as you in Spain.Soon I will post my pics soon.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 11:07:55 AM
I believe that bold statement is a relation to your shock when you discorver something new on a field you have been for years.
I am sure Dorian said that same when Mentzer introduce him the HITmethod. I would say that all the time you applied a new method of trainning is like re-discovering your body
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: nukkaready on April 06, 2007, 11:14:49 AM
I don't think it'll work, I already asked for closeups of the face so I can make out with my monitor but she hasn't responded.

bigbobs... your moronic 50 posts made this originally appealing thread 3 pages long for no good reason. stop posting stupid.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: benchthis on April 06, 2007, 11:18:44 AM
with enough drugs everything works
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 06, 2007, 11:19:38 AM
bigbobs... your moronic 50 posts made this originally appealing thread 3 pages long for no good reason. stop posting stupid.


Why? Just look like honest post. He doesnt look like bashing her.
Just if she took it like being bashed,She might be plain stupid
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 11:22:46 AM
I have predominatly use High intensity trainning for the 5 year of my Trainning. I had amazing results. I was then introduce by Hany Rambond to a more High Volume Trainning and now Milos have teach me and Zhanna I complete different style( please this is much more that giant set). I use all this tools in my physique to keep shocking my muscle. So all that are interested in improvements should futher learn this new approach.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
Why? Just look like honest post. He doesnt look like bashing her.
Just if she took it like being bashed,She might be plain stupid

That's right--I was trying to conpliment her appearance--obviously no one really makes out with their monitor.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: bigbobs on April 06, 2007, 11:24:21 AM
bigbobs... your moronic 50 posts made this originally appealing thread 3 pages long for no good reason. stop posting stupid.



It took so many posts on my part because I had to set the record straight.  Now, finally, everyone is on the same page in terms of Milos' training.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: benchthis on April 06, 2007, 11:25:13 AM
I have predominatly use High intensity trainning for the 5 year of my Trainning. I had amazing results. I was then introduce by Hany Rambond to a more High Volume Trainning and now Milos have teach me and Zhanna I complete different style( please this is much more that giant set). I use all this tools in my physique to keep shocking my muscle. So all that are interested in improvements should futher learn this new approach.
translation = for the last five years i got by using deca and test but now i started gh and tripled my deca and test so i could have shitty workouts and still improve
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 11:26:49 AM
That's right--I was trying to complimenting her appearance--obviously no one really makes out with their monitor.

For more pics of Zhanna go to her web site. www.zhannarotar.net
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 11:30:36 AM
translation = for the last five years i got by using deca and test but now i started gh and tripled my deca and test so i could have shitty workouts and still improve

Drugs are a part of the Sport but it is a complete lack of minimum commun sense to think that a physique is build only by drugs.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 06, 2007, 11:38:50 AM
Zhanna and Tamer - thank you so much for your kind words.
As you know last night's workout was rushed - as I had no idea that you guys are coming (Milamar told me about one hour before...and we had "school" duties as parents at 6:30 PM...)

Anyway, it was PLEASURE training you guys and I certainly hope yo'll come back for more...

Now, I didn't have a chance to read everything here (as I have to go to work...) but I can only assume that many will jump into conclusions....as always.

My workouts are NOT my inventions...As I said (surprisingly) - I didn't invent the wheel or a fire...either...but I use it and modify it for whatever demand I have in front of me.

I simply do not accept LIMITATIONS and expect a lot from me...and my clients.
I am not satisfied with just ANY goals..I am all for HIGHEST GOALS and achievements possible.

So, closest description of some of my workouts is: I think of what is almost impossible to do - and than I do JUST THAT...
After all I said ALMOST...

Mind is where it's at...If you accept something to be impossible - than forget about even trying...On another hand if you accept to be POSSIBLE - you will absolutely, positively, without a doubt...unquestionably be able to do it!

Human body is just unbelievable master piece that can (and should) be tested for the absolute greatness - mentally and physically...
We all have that within us - but few are ready to experience...

Have a faith and believe - YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING..."and if you can't do everything that doesn't mean you shouldn't try doing what you can - being who you are" (I read this somewhere ::) - and I like it)...

JUST DO IT! ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 11:45:01 AM
Zhanna and Tamer - thank you so much for your kind words.
As you know last night's workout was rushed - as I had no idea that you guys are coming (Milamar told me about one hour before...and we had "school" duties as parents at 6:30 PM...)

Anyway, it was PLEASURE training you guys and I certainly hope yo'll come back for more...

Now, I didn't have a chance to read everything here (as I have to go to work...) but I can only assume that many will jump into conclusions....as always.

My workouts are NOT my inventions...As I said (surprisingly) - I didn't invent the wheel or a fire...either...but I use it and modify it for whatever demand I have in front of me.

I simply do not accept LIMITATIONS and expect a lot from me...and my clients.
I am not satisfied with just ANY goals..I am all for HIGHEST GOALS and achievements possible.

So, closest description of some of my workouts is: I think of what is almost impossible to do - and than I do JUST THAT...
After all I said ALMOST...

Mind is where it's at...If you accept something to be impossible - than forget about even trying...On another hand if you accept to be POSSIBLE - you will absolutely, positively, without a doubt...unquestionably be able to do it!

Human body is just unbelievable master piece that can (and should) be tested for the absolute greatness - mentally and physically...
We all have that within us - but few are ready to experience...

Have a faith and believe - YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING..."and if you can't do everything that doesn't mean you shouldn't try doing what you can - being who you are" (I read this somewhere ::) - and I like it)...

JUST DO IT! ;D

DEbussey loves Milosh!!!  :-*


Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 06, 2007, 12:55:12 PM
they are shocked to feel their muscles for the firstime  since they only injected till now to make their muscles grow...

in fact they just discovered that training with light weights for hours make you feel your muscles more than with heavy weights, wow , what stunning news....


all these bullshits  make no sense at all, plus its absolutely uninteresting to see people who are juiced to the gills come here and say how it makes em feel more muscular and efficient to train with the revolutionary training technics of  their new god/guru "milos".

I mean, do you sometimes read what you re typing?

Bullshits, bullshits, and bullshits... and you guys keep constantly coming here and feed people with obvious and uninteresting bullcraps ...


go inject and stop trying to fool the sheeps on here, most of us dont buy it since a long time.

your constant self promotion and politically correct bullshits are annoying.
here's a tip, in America it's "bullshit" not "bullshits", learn it, live it.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Max_Rep on April 06, 2007, 01:08:27 PM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!


Damn that's a friggen HOT picture in front of the bike! Woo Hoo!!!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 06, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
here's a tip, in America it's "bullshit" not "bullshits", learn it, live it.

Squadfather I do understand you are skeptical of his trainning Methods. But the application and use of different methods are ideal to avoid limitations on your workout. Milos concepts are undeniable efficients as HIT and HVT.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 06, 2007, 01:10:38 PM
Squadfather I do understand you are skeptical of his trainning Methods. But the application and use of different methods are ideal to avoid limitations on your workout. Milos concepts are undeniable efficients as HIT and HVT.
no no no, i wasn't talking about Milos i was talking about that french moron "finurface" saying "bullshits" instead of "bullshit".
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumpster on April 06, 2007, 01:17:05 PM
Did you throw up also? ;D

Kyomu, new getbig master of inane posts.  :-\ Probably ADD.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Wiggs on April 06, 2007, 01:35:08 PM
I would much rather pay someone like Ronnie, Nasser, or Yates $200-$300/hr than Milos $500/hr.  They have more experience and placed higher.

I guess you wouldn't pay Charles Glass, Chris Aceto or Chad Nichols that much then based on your theories of contest placings.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 06, 2007, 03:00:55 PM
zhanna and tamer?

are you two star trek characters, what's with the names?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Luke Wood on April 06, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
I guess .....Silvio, Luke, Gustavo, Hieda,Sammi....among other PRO's are also shocked by his Knowledge and ability to change PRO level bodies

Absolutely!!! from day one i starting working with Milos i would just sit there where ears wide open and listen and everyday was something different, something interesting and something that worked!!!! Not only arer his training methods just incredible but he takes you to an intensity that you never knew you could reach!! Its not until after the show you sit back and realise the incredible effort he puts into his athletes!!! i mean he really does love us!!! He is tough but fair!! sometimes we are naughty ;) and none more than me and you are soon put in your place!! Milos told me, i can be pissed at you but never angry at you!! YES i found out there is a difference!! At the show he is running from hotel to hotel, room to room making sure we are all ok and feeling good!! This goes on for 24 hrs for a whole 3 days!! He is more tired than what we are when the show is over but the reward is seeing us up there and improving and knowing it was his methods and knowledge that got us there!!

Ive said it before and i will again!!! His athletes would take a bullet for him! :)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: haider on April 06, 2007, 03:27:42 PM
Kyomu, new getbig master of inane posts.  :-\ Probably ADD.
Positivty flows through your veins ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: CF on April 06, 2007, 10:27:56 PM
I've heard nothing but great things about Milos.  It's too bad I'm all the way on the eastcoast or i'd stop in for a workout.  Keep up the good work Milos.  Zhanna!  I was there when you won your pro card, remember!  Hope all is well with you.

Carlo Filippone
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: omg on April 07, 2007, 02:57:45 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!


brutal 9inch arms and sucking up to milos sarcev
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 06:23:12 AM
Zhanna and Tamer - thank you so much for your kind words.
As you know last night's workout was rushed - as I had no idea that you guys are coming (Milamar told me about one hour before...and we had "school" duties as parents at 6:30 PM...)

Anyway, it was PLEASURE training you guys and I certainly hope yo'll come back for more...

Now, I didn't have a chance to read everything here (as I have to go to work...) but I can only assume that many will jump into conclusions....as always.

My workouts are NOT my inventions...As I said (surprisingly) - I didn't invent the wheel or a fire...either...but I use it and modify it for whatever demand I have in front of me.

I simply do not accept LIMITATIONS and expect a lot from me...and my clients.
I am not satisfied with just ANY goals..I am all for HIGHEST GOALS and achievements possible.

So, closest description of some of my workouts is: I think of what is almost impossible to do - and than I do JUST THAT...
After all I said ALMOST...

Mind is where it's at...If you accept something to be impossible - than forget about even trying...On another hand if you accept to be POSSIBLE - you will absolutely, positively, without a doubt...unquestionably be able to do it!

Human body is just unbelievable master piece that can (and should) be tested for the absolute greatness - mentally and physically...
We all have that within us - but few are ready to experience...

Have a faith and believe - YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING..."and if you can't do everything that doesn't mean you shouldn't try doing what you can - being who you are" (I read this somewhere ::) - and I like it)...

JUST DO IT! ;D
Damn.
You are my enemy but  i  have exactly same idea as you about things.
My thought
"You can do anything(Litelaly anything,even i believe "Flying" or "Walk on water"...etc) what you can imagine and feel exactly,but you cant do anything no matter how its easy,if you cant imagine and feel.

Green Mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: omg on April 07, 2007, 06:38:55 AM
kyumo , u and milos have a lot of similarities u are unaware of, for example, both of you like to type in the same unreadable way
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 06:45:13 AM
kyumo , u and milos have a lot of similarities u are unaware of, for example, both of you like to type in the same unreadable way
Because the things arent so easy to describe ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: MAXX on April 07, 2007, 07:08:36 AM
         If you haven't worked out with Milos yet, you haven't worked out, PERIOD!
Yesterday night, Tamer (Evil Angel)  and I trained BACK with Milos and LOVELY Milamar in the Koloseum and it was absolutely INSANE!  I mean, I am a PRO, and I have seen it all, and I have tried every training method that ever existed, but that workout was OUT of THIS WORLD!  As I am writhing this, I can feel every single fiber in my back; my back has NEVER been this sore!!!!!!!!
Milos's method of training is definitely REVOLUTIONARY and SUPER EFFICIENT!  If you don't pass out out of high volume, speed and INTENSITY, and the muscle group you are training survives the workout, then it has no other choice but to GROW to adapt to the extreme demand put upon it! 
WARNING: this kind of workout is not fot the faint of heart!!!

looking good. post more offseason pictures. and bigger ones.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumphard on April 07, 2007, 07:48:13 AM
Can someone post what a typical milos workout would be?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: SecondFocus on April 07, 2007, 07:59:02 AM
I have to agree with Bob C on this for sure. It is experience that makes the difference. I have watched people go though a workout with Milos and the guy really knows what he is doing. I have seen a lot of training variations in my time, a lot of theories, a lot of people doing a lot of different things.

But what I have seen Milos do is smarter and more intense than anything I have ever seen. Milos knows what he is doing. If I lived near the Koloseum Gym I would be working out there everyday to, at the very least, watch what this guy does and take it all in.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:30:55 AM
Absolutely!!! from day one i starting working with Milos i would just sit there where ears wide open and listen and everyday was something different, something interesting and something that worked!!!! Not only arer his training methods just incredible but he takes you to an intensity that you never knew you could reach!! Its not until after the show you sit back and realise the incredible effort he puts into his athletes!!! i mean he really does love us!!! He is tough but fair!! sometimes we are naughty ;) and none more than me and you are soon put in your place!! Milos told me, i can be pissed at you but never angry at you!! YES i found out there is a difference!! At the show he is running from hotel to hotel, room to room making sure we are all ok and feeling good!! This goes on for 24 hrs for a whole 3 days!! He is more tired than what we are when the show is over but the reward is seeing us up there and improving and knowing it was his methods and knowledge that got us there!!

Ive said it before and i will again!!! His athletes would take a bullet for him! :)

Thx Luke...and I am still pissed you puked in my sink >:(...but I am not angry ::)...I love you - man ;D. (you c..t)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Big N on April 07, 2007, 08:34:34 AM
Milos & Luke stop paying eachother under the table for sweet comments c'mon on dudes  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:36:51 AM
Damn.
You are my enemy but  i  have exactly same idea as you about things.
My thought
"You can do anything(Litelaly anything,even i believe "Flying" or "Walk on water"...etc) what you can imagine and feel exactly,but you cant do anything no matter how its easy,if you cant imagine and feel.

Green Mamba

Are you on drugs Mamba?
How in a hell would yoube able to fly or walk on water? ::)

I said: just because you can't do everything (fly and walk on the water... ;D) that doesn't mean you should try doing what you can (my crazy workouts)....eyc ;D

Next thing you know - you'll be playing in "The House of the hiden Green Mamba"...ot "Crouching Green Mamba"....well - certainly not "Hero"....but possibly: "Geisha"....

LSD legal in Japan?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:38:08 AM
Can someone post what a typical milos workout would be?

Garraeth posted some in TRAINING section.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:39:46 AM
Milos & Luke stop paying eachother under the table for sweet comments c'mon on dudes  ;D

C'mon dude - don't you feel that "love is in the air" ;D

What's wrong with: Lov'ya man?
Go on teh street and tell your neighboor... ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 07, 2007, 08:40:10 AM
Are you on drugs Mamba?
How in a hell would yoube able to fly or walk on water? ::)

I said: just because you can't do everything (fly and walk on the water... ;D) that doesn't mean you should try doing what you can (my crazy workouts)....eyc ;D

Next thing you know - you'll be playing in "The House of the hiden Green Mamba"...ot "Crouching Green Mamba"....well - certainly not "Hero"....but possibly: "Geisha"....

LSD legal in Japan?


It is possible to walk on water for certain insects. They use the waters surface tension.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Big N on April 07, 2007, 08:41:11 AM
C'mon dude - don't you feel that "love is in the air" ;D

What's wrong with: Lov'ya man?
Go on teh street and tell your neighboor... ;D


lol you're a great sport dude
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:41:37 AM
I have to agree with Bob C on this for sure. It is experience that makes the difference. I have watched people go though a workout with Milos and the guy really knows what he is doing. I have seen a lot of training variations in my time, a lot of theories, a lot of people doing a lot of different things.

But what I have seen Milos do is smarter and more intense than anything I have ever seen. Milos knows what he is doing. If I lived near the Koloseum Gym I would be working out there everyday to, at the very least, watch what this guy does and take it all in.

That's why you are "Second Focus"...I like the people who think ;).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:42:52 AM

It is possible to walk on water for certain insects. They use the waters surface tension.



 ;D ;D
I forgot...snakes can swim...and fly (on the planes)...Mamba wins the argument.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:44:43 AM
Milos,

Thank you for sharing some of your Knowledge with us yesterday. You are a Genius in the Fitness Industry.

Thx - Tamer...
Looking at this photo - I see enormeous potential.
I hope you reach it and turn pro - very soon...

I am sure that training this way could bring you to completely another level...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 08:45:02 AM
Are you on drugs Mamba?
How in a hell would yoube able to fly or walk on water? ::)

I said: just because you can't do everything (fly and walk on the water... ;D) that doesn't mean you should try doing what you can (my crazy workouts)....eyc ;D

Next thing you know - you'll be playing in "The House of the hiden Green Mamba"...ot "Crouching Green Mamba"....well - certainly not "Hero"....but possibly: "Geisha"....

LSD legal in Japan?
Oh. I am really grad that we have  different point of you.
About Drugs, I have used much much less than you in my life. Recreational drugs NONE.  ;D
Even i dont take aspiline.And when it comes to steroid,Ha ha forget about it! ;D
Since you havent seen strange things in your life,its natural that you cant believe what i say.
I feel exactly same as you when you explain your "unbelievable" things to Getbiggers.

Green Mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:46:44 AM
Milos' training is basically to do giant sets with about 10 exercises for one bodypart with no rest, right?  

Can you please post a larger version of the first pic, because it's small so when I try to zoom in to make the face actual size and make out with my monitor it becomes pixely.  

Yes Zhanna...post larger version because it's so small he tries to zoom in to make your FACE ::) ::) ::)....actual size ;).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:50:36 AM
Perhaps if Ronnie Coleman started doing giant sets he could compete at 320, or if Yates had known that straight sets with heavy weight was not as effective he could have competed at 300?

Perhaps...actually - I would bet on it.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:52:13 AM
Severl Methods of trainning are effective to buid a Great physique...HIT , HVT and so on. Milos have developed a new option to people.And one that is very effective that all

And to add...this kind of training theory would work for MANY athletes...especially for MMA. ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:55:16 AM
I understand that--and that's why I acknowledged that I'm sure his methods work great...but I don't see any reason to believe they work greater than other's methods which do not cost $500/hr to learn or take as many sets to complete.

My training methods are FREE...
I will again explain them in detail in my FREE seminar...

My time is different...I charge as much as I believe that I am worth...and actually - I am underselling myself...

But, I also give hundreds of my FREE hours to bodybuilding fans on regular bases...as MONEY doesn't mean everything. It never did ...or ever will.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 08:57:23 AM
Oh. I am really grad that we have  different point of you.
About Drugs, I have used much much less than you in my life. Recreational drugs NONE.  ;D
Even i dont take aspiline.And when it comes to steroid,Ha ha forget about it! ;D
Since you havent seen strange things in your life,its natural that you cant believe what i say.
I feel exactly same as you when you explain your "unbelievable" things to Getbiggers.

Green Mamba


Aspiline  ;D does that to you?
Who needs the recreational drugs - can you send some "aspiline" with Hide?

I can't wait to fly and walk on the water...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 08:59:47 AM
Aspiline  ;D does that to you?
Who needs the recreational drugs - can you send some "aspiline" with Hide?

I can't wait to fly and walk on the water...
I am not living in Japan dude.
I will teach you someday how to fly. Then teach me your method and special drink ;D

Green mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 09:32:49 AM
It's really nothing new (not to take away from Milo's) it's a variation of something that's been around for years and since the people think that heavier is better for some reason, they are afraid to try something new light training lighter with more intensity, but I'm understanding his training correctly, he's tri-setting the same bodyparts.

Well, depends how you look at it...
Giant sets are certainly NOTHING NEW...the way I construct my workouts IS.

And as far as tri-setting the same bodypart...3 sets would make "tri-set" (so much for the Giant set theory - which considers 4 sets or more)...In one of the fitshows we did 33 consecutive sets for arms in a row...and in my training I actually did 56 (the most ever. I arranged 28 exercises and did all - 10 reps each and as soon as I finished I went - all the way back...)

It is certainly a MENTAL thing but it does become PHYSICAL...This is one of the rare times when failure to complete another rep does come from the PHYSICAL rather than mental failure...(exceptions are experienced athletes who do know how to reach physical failure as they don't set mental boundaries...You can easily test some guys by making them lift without seeing how much weight they are lifting...Instead just tell them the amount of weight - but tell them it is 20 pounds lighter than the actual weight...Not knowingly they might/will push the weight they previously didn't believe it would be possible - as they've focused on lesser amount which they know they are able to lift...Their mind is in the POSITIVE mode, they know they can do it...and they saw themselves doing it numerous times in their mind...so they just go through the same process - and complete the rep /where mind goes - body follows/

I do think many trainees have WEAK MIND...thus they quit too early.
You've heard numerous times: where mind goes - body follows...and ONLY WEAK MINDED are looking at this training system and find the reason to complain...and NOT try it...

They would rather say it doesn't work or it is ridiculous - than actually try it and see for themselves ULTIMATE INTENSITY - they could create - if they only THINK ABOUT IT...

Start with 3 of your best lifts...whatever they might be - and try to do them ONE AFTER ANOTHER CONSECUTIVELY with less than 5 seconds rest between the two.
See how it feels...

Than imagine adding another exercise...and another...and another...and another. ;)

Now - when you have all those exercises lined up - TRY TO IMPROVE (make more advance - using some of the Joe Weider training principles) each and every exercise on it's own...
So first exercise do in straight heavy set fashion, second do with super slow reps, third with triple drops, fourth with "double peak contraction", next with your underwear off (don't forget - I did train with Shawn once and I accepted this as a training method as well...), next: rest-pause, next some explosive power move, next (Green mamba's walk on the water with flying Tiger style)...etc, etc, etc

All joking aside - YOU and YOUR MIND control the INTENSITY and KIND of the intensity...
You see MMA, boxer or a fighter (example) who brings the FURY in one round just to gas in the very next...Or some can squeeze 3-4 rounds before they punch themselves out...
Imagine a fighter who DOES NOT EVER STOP... EVER!

Imagine a sprinter who sprints the entire marathon....

Imagine some Mr. Olympia competitor who does his present workout ALL in NON-STOP - single giant set fashion without ever taking a break...???

Whatever you imagine - you can very well make it happen...IF YOU TRY...and have a strong mindset.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumphard on April 07, 2007, 09:39:05 AM
I found the training program for tri's:

Let me see if I can remember everything we did for tris:
--seated pushdowns
--close grip bench
--pushdowns (really push-down, no arc)
--skullcrushers past head on decline
--dips
--cable tricep extensions while lying face-first on a bench
--rope push downs
--kickbacks
--seated behind the back dumbell presses
--seated behind the back barbell presses
--kickbacks w/ heavy
--push-downs with severe arc
--pushdowns with severe arc from above head
--lying on back doing cable tricep extenstions over head
--reverse grip push downs, hitting knees

...I think that's it.

Now, how many reps for each exercise, and how much rest in between the different exercises?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 09:39:47 AM
hard physical labour.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 09:43:40 AM
I am not living in Japan dude.
I will teach you someday how to fly. Then teach me your method and special drink ;D

Green mamba

OK dude...I'll even teach you how to drink for the secret of flying...I hope it is not going to be one of those lessons: climb the highest tree and simply jump with your eyes closed...Focus on air going through your hair and don't think much about lesson number 2 (landing)...

Or better yet - suggest "getbig school of flying" and use my advanced "pink dumbbells" strategy...Have your students hold my dumbbells as they jump...
To make the flying more enjoyable - make them do super slow reps ;).

And if they get sick make them turn around and face the sun (if they have to puke...) [Be detailed as I am...always ;)]


Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
milos what do you think about hrvatska?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 10:00:57 AM
milos what do you think about hrvatska?

What I think about Croatia?
I think of visiting this wonderful Country and numerous friends I have there - in the very near future.

I would like to see more Croatian bodybuilders competing in the IFBB and that's one of the reasons I would love to organize some seminars.

Certainly, I would love to see my favorite Mixed Martial Artist - Mirko Filipovic (CROCOP) while I am there and share this kind of training to one of his strength and conditioning coaches (Damir Siser whom I know very well).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 10:05:25 AM
What I think about Croatia?
I think of visiting this wonderful Country and numerous friends I have there - in the very near future.

I would like to see more Croatian bodybuilders competing in the IFBB and that's one of the reasons I would love to organize some seminars.

Certainly, I would love to see my favorite Mixed Martial Artist - Mirko Filipovic (CROCOP) while I am there and share this kind of training to one of his strength and conditioning coaches (Damir Siser whom I know very well).

ok i just banged a girl from hrvatska. very hot blooded  ;D

she wants to take me there on vacation. i hear its lovely there. and that the old generation can speak italian (many of them)..atleast at the coast.

mirko is good but fedor whopped his ass.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 07, 2007, 10:11:48 AM
ok i just banged a girl from hrvatska. very hot blooded  ;D

she wants to take me there on vacation. i hear its lovely there. and that the old generation can speak italian (many of them)..atleast at the coast.

mirko is good but fedor whopped his ass.



ha ha, when i was there (i was 12) i was about 5'9 at the time.  i was the shortest kid there, even the girls were taller than me.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 10:30:07 AM
ok i just banged a girl from hrvatska. very hot blooded  ;D

she wants to take me there on vacation. i hear its lovely there. and that the old generation can speak italian (many of them)..atleast at the coast.

mirko is good but fedor whopped his ass.



Vacation in Croatia is something I have in mind for few years - but didn't have a time to organize it...
You should go to Dubrovnik (my favorite city with breathtaking architecture)...or some other of numerous Cities on the coast (Adriatic Sea is crystal clear, warm and wonderful to be in...unlike the Ocean where you freeze your "Buzz- Lightyear"/my daughters favorite character...)

Anyway, Jadransko More (Adriatic Sea) is truly worth experiencing and more often than not - tourist come back to visit year after year...so don't be surprise if you fall in love with more than just a hotblooded girl (speaking of that - many Croatian girls are stunning and...you said it: hotblooded or rather VERY PASSIONATE...)


Fedor is great and he got a decision against Mirko...
It was close and I would have given the fight to Fedor as Mirko just wasn't at his best...but I believe Mirko would beat Fedor in 8 out of 10 fights...
I hope their match will be organized later this year.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 11:11:03 AM
Zhanna is training legs with Milamar at noon...and hopefully Tamer will train legs with me, Silvio, Garraeth, Owen...and few more later at 2PM...

If anyone is around Fullerton - come and see it...I promise it will be BRUTAL INTENSITY...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The True Adonis on April 07, 2007, 11:19:12 AM
Well, depends how you look at it...
Giant sets are certainly NOTHING NEW...the way I construct my workouts IS.

And as far as tri-setting the same bodypart...3 sets would make "tri-set" (so much for the Giant set theory - which considers 4 sets or more)...In one of the fitshows we did 33 consecutive sets for arms in a row...and in my training I actually did 56 (the most ever. I arranged 28 exercises and did all - 10 reps each and as soon as I finished I went - all the way back...)

It is certainly a MENTAL thing but it does become PHYSICAL...This is one of the rare times when failure to complete another rep does come from the PHYSICAL rather than mental failure...(exceptions are experienced athletes who do know how to reach physical failure as they don't set mental boundaries...You can easily test some guys by making them lift without seeing how much weight they are lifting...Instead just tell them the amount of weight - but tell them it is 20 pounds lighter than the actual weight...Not knowingly they might/will push the weight they previously didn't believe it would be possible - as they've focused on lesser amount which they know they are able to lift...Their mind is in the POSITIVE mode, they know they can do it...and they saw themselves doing it numerous times in their mind...so they just go through the same process - and complete the rep /where mind goes - body follows/

I do think many trainees have WEAK MIND...thus they quit too early.
You've heard numerous times: where mind goes - body follows...and ONLY WEAK MINDED are looking at this training system and find the reason to complain...and NOT try it...

They would rather say it doesn't work or it is ridiculous - than actually try it and see for themselves ULTIMATE INTENSITY - they could create - if they only THINK ABOUT IT...

Start with 3 of your best lifts...whatever they might be - and try to do them ONE AFTER ANOTHER CONSECUTIVELY with less than 5 seconds rest between the two.
See how it feels...

Than imagine adding another exercise...and another...and another...and another. ;)

Now - when you have all those exercises lined up - TRY TO IMPROVE (make more advance - using some of the Joe Weider training principles) each and every exercise on it's own...
So first exercise do in straight heavy set fashion, second do with super slow reps, third with triple drops, fourth with "double peak contraction", next with your underwear off (don't forget - I did train with Shawn once and I accepted this as a training method as well...), next: rest-pause, next some explosive power move, next (Green mamba's walk on the water with flying Tiger style)...etc, etc, etc

All joking aside - YOU and YOUR MIND control the INTENSITY and KIND of the intensity...
You see MMA, boxer or a fighter (example) who brings the FURY in one round just to gas in the very next...Or some can squeeze 3-4 rounds before they punch themselves out...
Imagine a fighter who DOES NOT EVER STOP... EVER!

Imagine a sprinter who sprints the entire marathon....

Imagine some Mr. Olympia competitor who does his present workout ALL in NON-STOP - single giant set fashion without ever taking a break...???

Whatever you imagine - you can very well make it happen...IF YOU TRY...and have a strong mindset.

The mind does have limits.  Major limitations.  You can`t will something.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 07, 2007, 11:24:17 AM
 :D

"Did you know you can make fire out of ice? You can, you know. Fire out of ice. Think about it. Fire out of ice. Think. Think."
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: affy on April 07, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
The mind does have limits.  Major limitations.  You can`t will something.

thats what the weak say
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 11:50:02 AM
OK dude...I'll even teach you how to drink for the secret of flying...I hope it is not going to be one of those lessons: climb the highest tree and simply jump with your eyes closed...Focus on air going through your hair and don't think much about lesson number 2 (landing)...

Or better yet - suggest "getbig school of flying" and use my advanced "pink dumbbells" strategy...Have your students hold my dumbbells as they jump...
To make the flying more enjoyable - make them do super slow reps ;).

And if they get sick make them turn around and face the sun (if they have to puke...) [Be detailed as I am...always ;)]



Bwahahahahaha!!!
Dont worry!Even if you are my enemy, i am not planning on killing you mate!

Seriously if i teach you,i teach you the method created by Tibet Buddhism. That method is consisted of manipulating your dream during your sleep(I am talking serious).
Beside of joke of flying,its very good tecnic to controle your deep consciousness(I think its very good info for bodybuilding since you always state about mental matter.) through controlling your dream.
If you still dont believe in me,you can investigate by yourself in internet.
Its interesting for you sure.

Green Mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 07, 2007, 11:54:16 AM
Bwahahahahaha!!!
Dont worry!Even if you are my enemy, i am not planning on killing you mate!

Seriously if i teach you,i teach you the method created by Tibet Buddhism. That method is consisted of manipulating your dream during your sleep(I am talking serious).
Beside of joke of flying,its very good tecnic to controle your deep consciousness(I think its very good info for bodybuilding since you always state about mental matter.) through controlling your dream.
If you still dont believe in me,you can investigate by yourself in internet.
Its interesting for you sure.

Green Mamba





Mamba - if you can teach me to control my dreams - I'll teach you good manners - so we'll both gains something that seems impossible ;D.

I'll take my chances - hit me with your first lesson:

OK: I assume I should close my eyes...think my eyelids are - oh so heavyyyyyyyy...and I should go to sleeeeeeeeeeeep.

Wake me up when is a time to learn something! ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 11:59:53 AM

Mamba - if you can teach me to control my dreams - I'll teach you good manners - so we'll both gains something that seems impossible ;D.

I'll take my chances - hit me with your first lesson:

OK: I assume I should close my eyes...think my eyelids are - oh so heavyyyyyyyy...and I should go to sleeeeeeeeeeeep.

Wake me up when is a time to learn something! ;)
Hey hey! Lately I dont act bad to you huh? ;D(Maybe future...act bad,i dont know ;D)
He he. Anyway,if i meet good web site,ill post it for you.
Or maybe Hide know something about it.

Green Mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 07, 2007, 01:04:56 PM
I found the training program for tri's:

Let me see if I can remember everything we did for tris:
--seated pushdowns
--close grip bench
--pushdowns (really push-down, no arc)
--skullcrushers past head on decline
--dips
--cable tricep extensions while lying face-first on a bench
--rope push downs
--kickbacks
--seated behind the back dumbell presses
--seated behind the back barbell presses
--kickbacks w/ heavy
--push-downs with severe arc
--pushdowns with severe arc from above head
--lying on back doing cable tricep extenstions over head
--reverse grip push downs, hitting knees

...I think that's it.

Now, how many reps for each exercise, and how much rest in between the different exercises?
10 reps. No rest. Run to each station, no pause before starting.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 07, 2007, 01:08:17 PM
10 reps. No rest. Run to each station, no pause before starting.

damn that's crazy, doesn't seem like you could use much weight though.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 07, 2007, 01:10:26 PM
damn that's crazy, doesn't seem like you could use much weight though.
Thats why it would be "Girlie" but very heavy weight(For trainee).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 04:38:56 PM
ha ha, when i was there (i was 12) i was about 5'9 at the time.  i was the shortest kid there, even the girls were taller than me.

yes ex yoguslavia (including croatia) and holland had the tallest people on average in europe..i remember reading that in a book as a kid. think average hight of male=183 cm (6'1)

im 5'9..and the chick i mentioned is 5'11 ... ;D

maybe i should wear high heels...hmmm???
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 04:41:57 PM
Vacation in Croatia is something I have in mind for few years - but didn't have a time to organize it...
You should go to Dubrovnik (my favorite city with breathtaking architecture)...or some other of numerous Cities on the coast (Adriatic Sea is crystal clear, warm and wonderful to be in...unlike the Ocean where you freeze your "Buzz- Lightyear"/my daughters favorite character...)

Anyway, Jadransko More (Adriatic Sea) is truly worth experiencing and more often than not - tourist come back to visit year after year...so don't be surprise if you fall in love with more than just a hotblooded girl (speaking of that - many Croatian girls are stunning and...you said it: hotblooded or rather VERY PASSIONATE...)


Fedor is great and he got a decision against Mirko...
It was close and I would have given the fight to Fedor as Mirko just wasn't at his best...but I believe Mirko would beat Fedor in 8 out of 10 fights...
I hope their match will be organized later this year.

milos, ill keep that in mind. i love traveling and learning about the history of different cultures and countries. and from the pictures she has showed me...it looks to be a great place..sunny and lots of chicks in skimpy clothes  ;D

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 07, 2007, 07:37:37 PM
Today was the infamous leg day.

I posted the full report in the Training section:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=138114.msg1984790#msg1984790
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 07, 2007, 08:54:40 PM
I know that this statement is going to cause a reaction. But only will create a reaction because of lack of understanding of Milos workout Methods. So before someone make a stupid comment please learn more about Milos workouts. here it comes....

I believe the majority of athletes in the NBA,MLB or NFL would not be able to correctly complete this work out. The mixture of high-volume, stregth and condition would be only achieveble to the Top of the Athletes in these organizations. I would like to add that I have trained several NBA and a couple of MLB players. I currently Max the squat at 675lb(passing 90 angle). I did not complete the workout as I was cheating in some of the exercises. I would say couple people completed the workout Silvio Samuel being one of them.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 07, 2007, 08:56:15 PM
I know that this statement is going to cause a reaction. But only will create a reaction because of lack of understanding of Milos workout Methods. So before someone make a stupid comment please learn more about Milos workouts. here it comes....

I believe the majority of athletes in the NBA,MLB or NFL would not be able to correctly complete this work out. The mixture of high-volume, stregth and condition would be only achieveble to the Top of the Athletes in these organizations. I would like to add that I have trained several NBA and a couple of MLB players. I currently Max the squat at 675lb(passing 90 angle). I did not complete the workout as I was cheating in some of the exercises. I would say couple people completed the workout Silvio Samuel being one of them.

would you operate a third testicle to win a plastic trophy?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 07, 2007, 09:09:19 PM
would you operate a third testicle to win a plastic trophy?

Bobuilding is just much more that money is about a passion. The strongest muscle you have is your heart, It is the feeling that nothing can stop you that after you finished the hardest workout of your life you know would never give up. After throwing up and having my whole body shake and know you just would not stop until you done. And that fire my friend no Drugs can give you ....that is the illusion of the weak that thinks that Drugs makes a champion. No injection is going to help you when you can do it but you just keep pushing even if that means you pass out....and then Milos will tell you could have done better....
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 07, 2007, 09:27:13 PM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...
Besides my legs hurting and my walk being far from "Figure Stage Graceful", also, my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...
Not only I won't be able to properly walk for a couple of days, but also speak...
I also have mascara runs on my face, and that is from crying.....twice.....
Despite all that, I am the happiest being in the world right this moment!  I did it...  I survived...  I gave it ALL, and I am REALLY looking forward for some MORE!
Thank you, Milos...
Nuf said
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Luke Wood on April 07, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...
Besides my legs hurting and my walk being far from "Figure Stage Graceful", also, my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...
Not only I won't be able to properly walk for a couple of days, but also speak...
I also have mascara runs on my face, and that is from crying.....twice.....
Despite all that, I am the happiest being in the world right this moment!  I did it...  I survived...  I gave it ALL, and I am REALLY looking forward for some MORE!
Thank you, Milos...
Nuf said

That throat burn is crazy is'nt it after the leg workout!!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Luke Wood on April 07, 2007, 09:55:43 PM
Thx Luke...and I am still pissed you puked in my sink >:(...but I am not angry ::)...I love you - man ;D. (you c..t)

LOL!!!! Thanks Milos!!! Yes guys i puked in his sink and not the restroom at the gym! unintentional of course bit still inexcusable!!! Milos what was that last word?? :o I believe Sonny made a habit of using it more than once?? :D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 07, 2007, 09:59:49 PM
Bobuilding is just much more that money is about a passion. The strongest muscle you have is your heart, It is the feeling that nothing can stop you that after you finished the hardest workout of your life you know would never give up. After throwing up and having my whole body shake and know you just would not stop until you done. And that fire my friend no Drugs can give you ....that is the illusion of the weak that thinks that Drugs makes a champion. No injection is going to help you when you can do it but you just keep pushing even if that means you pass out....and then Milos will tell you could have done better....
You threw up? I missed that (thankfully). My throat is super raw now tho from all the grunting and crazy breathing.

Last time we did legs, it felt like it does when you haven't been to the beach all year -- then you go for a full day. The next day your rib muscles hurt from all the heavy breathing and breath holding. Felt exactly the same...I'm betting I'll feel like that again tomorrow.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 07, 2007, 10:01:08 PM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...
Besides my legs hurting and my walk being far from "Figure Stage Graceful", also, my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...
Not only I won't be able to properly walk for a couple of days, but also speak...
I also have mascara runs on my face, and that is from crying.....twice.....
Despite all that, I am the happiest being in the world right this moment!  I did it...  I survived...  I gave it ALL, and I am REALLY looking forward for some MORE!
Thank you, Milos...
Nuf said
haha, yeah...funny, and I didn't even read this when I posted that last post...nor Luke's. I figured it was just me.

Crazy cardio!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: muscularny on April 07, 2007, 10:12:09 PM
this thread is made up of the following

a) people who allow their cocks to run their life, real fuckin idiots usually people who have neg. bank accounts and tiny dicks

b) people who buy the 6 second ab machine from the tv infomercial and own at least one body by jake jerkoff machine

c) people who lick ass just to lick ass aka brown nosers, stupid people weak minded people

bottom line what worked in the 70's works today when you feel you reached your all out potential (never) look for new routines and new fancy movments.

enjoy and happy easter
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Luke Wood on April 07, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
this thread is made up of the following

a) people who allow their cocks to run their life, real fuckin idiots usually people who have neg. bank accounts and tiny dicks

b) people who buy the 6 second ab machine from the tv infomercial and own at least one body by jake jerkoff machine

c) people who lick ass just to lick ass aka brown nosers, stupid people weak minded people

bottom line what worked in the 70's works today when you feel you reached your all out potential (never) look for new routines and new fancy movments.

enjoy and happy easter

WOW!!! happy easter!!! you use such nice words in your post and than say happy easter?? Is'nt Easter suppose to be holy???
Really i can see you put alot of thought into this post!!!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 07, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
this thread is made up of the following

a) people who allow their cocks to run their life, real fuckin idiots usually people who have neg. bank accounts and tiny dicks

b) people who buy the 6 second ab machine from the tv infomercial and own at least one body by jake jerkoff machine

c) people who lick ass just to lick ass aka brown nosers, stupid people weak minded people

bottom line what worked in the 70's works today when you feel you reached your all out potential (never) look for new routines and new fancy movments.

enjoy and happy easter
hmm...I think I'm only "b" and "c".
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Count Grishnackh on April 07, 2007, 10:52:46 PM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...

oh brother    ::)

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 07, 2007, 11:04:59 PM
oh brother    ::)



You would understand if you just had a real workout once in a while ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:25:12 AM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...
Besides my legs hurting and my walk being far from "Figure Stage Graceful", also, my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...
Not only I won't be able to properly walk for a couple of days, but also speak...
I also have mascara runs on my face, and that is from crying.....twice.....
Despite all that, I am the happiest being in the world right this moment!  I did it...  I survived...  I gave it ALL, and I am REALLY looking forward for some MORE!
Thank you, Milos...
Nuf said

Zhanna - if all of my clients would have your fire, passion, commitment and DRIVE - I would be the happiest guy on Earth.
You INSPIRED me with your die-hard attitude and it was pure pleasure training you today.

Not just that you've survived - you trained like the true champion [THAT YOU ARE] - making my workout look so EASY at times - I had to wonder if I am forgeting something...As I said - next workout must be better than the previous...so I am looking foreward to see you giving your ALL.

Take care...and Happy Easter.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:33:21 AM
this thread is made up of the following

a) people who allow their cocks to run their life, real fuckin idiots usually people who have neg. bank accounts and tiny dicks

b) people who buy the 6 second ab machine from the tv infomercial and own at least one body by jake jerkoff machine

c) people who lick ass just to lick ass aka brown nosers, stupid people weak minded people

bottom line what worked in the 70's works today when you feel you reached your all out potential (never) look for new routines and new fancy movments.

enjoy and happy easter

Looks like an autobiography of the "muscularny"...or the best selfdesription (a,b+c) of the loving "getbig soul"...
Happy Easter to you too...and enjoy... ::)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:52:21 AM
Girls started first.

2 Giant set rotations:

1- Stiff- leg dead lifts (emphasis on glutes)
2- Laying leg curls (upper body raised)
3- Laying leg curls (knees and feet together)
4- Laying leg curls (5 seconds peak contraction at the top/1st rotation/, 10 seconds on second rotation)
5- Leg extensions (5 seconds peak contraction at the top, 10 seconds in second rotation)
6- Stiff leg dead lift (emphasis on hamstrings)
7- Power leg extansions
8- Seated leg curls (super slow)
9- Reverse hyperextensions
10- Single (unilateral) leg extensions
11- Power Seated leg curls
12- Outter-tigh machine
13- Inner-tigh machine
14- Seated leg press (heels raised)
15- Power laying leg curls
16- Single (unilateral) leg curls (leg externally rotated)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:53:18 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:54:11 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:55:03 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 12:56:39 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 01:07:50 AM
 8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 01:10:10 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Quickerblade on April 08, 2007, 04:01:39 AM
is this not over training.????
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: davidpaul on April 08, 2007, 04:23:25 AM
I think next weeks plug will have a more greater and more intense workout. ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 04:25:14 AM
I think next weeks plug will have a more greater and more intense workout. ;D

I think you are correct.  8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: muscularny on April 08, 2007, 04:40:47 AM
when all else fails I guess there is always the "easter"card

p.s. thats some intense training on the new bonus dvd by mitz milos/hide

happy holidays easter for the guys who do that and passover is still on i guess so happy passover and im sure their are some others

enjoy
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 08, 2007, 04:47:42 AM
milos you have a good job  ;D

i bet its a great view on the lying hamstring curl....
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:20:06 AM
is this not over training.????

Is running overtraining?

For some out of shape people - FOR SURE!
We are talking about conditioned athletes that can do training like this all the time.

I only mentioned first 2 rotations (warm up)...the rest is coming...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:21:11 AM
I think next weeks plug will have a more greater and more intense workout. ;D

Next always has to be greater than the last...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:23:06 AM
Mishko,

Will you be training Kevin for his comeback?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:23:55 AM
milos you have a good job  ;D

i bet its a great view on the lying hamstring curl....

Why do you think I have 5 laying leg curl exercises lined up (with the 10 second squeeze at the top ;D)...along with the stiff leg dead lifts ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 08, 2007, 08:24:57 AM
my Lord who is the girl in the camoflauge ballcap? her ass and tits are insane.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:25:24 AM
Mishko,

Will you be training Kevin for his comeback?

Kevin knows where to find me...but I doubt he ever will.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:26:49 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:27:45 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:28:44 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:29:47 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:30:27 AM
Kevin knows where to find me...but I doubt he ever will.

In your professional Opinion, Can Kevin make a comeback and not only pace top 5 in the Olympia but win the show?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:31:18 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:31:56 AM
In your professional Opinion, Can Kevin make a comeback and not only pace top 5 in the Olympia but win the show?

YES...off course he can.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:33:19 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 08:33:54 AM
Great pics. Feel the energy!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:36:10 AM
YES...off course he can.

How much would you charge him? 
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:45:01 AM
How much would you charge him? 

That's nobody's business now - isn't it?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:46:30 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:48:07 AM
I said - no limitations as a limitation.

That means for some - occasionally (once in the blue moon) - for those who think about how much their "poor, weak, overtrained body" could handle...
For others - much more often...and for some ALWAYS (as we have established - there is no limitations...therfore we cannot limit this extreme situation)...

And - without going into some of my other "secrets"...how about MULTIPLE ADVANCE METHODS applied within this kind of advance training (GIANT SETS) .

Think DIFFERENT EXERCISES DONE CONSECUTIVELY ONE AFTER THE OTHER IN GIANT SETS FASHION AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE EXERCISES PERFORMED IN DIFFERENT ADVANCE METHOD STYLE

I mentioned before - think of what is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE and than.... DO IT!

That is MY STYLE
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:49:01 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:49:43 AM
That's nobody's business now - isn't it?

That much   :o , would you at least give him a discount for being a friend?  Would you do it for free passes to his movie?  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:50:40 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Havenbull on April 08, 2007, 08:51:41 AM
that guy has a nice view
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 08:52:08 AM
I see all of your guys throwing up.
How about your wife and this girl? ;D ;D

Green Mamba
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:52:41 AM
That much   :o , would you at least give him a discount for being a friend?

Most of my friends I don't even charge...and discounts are also possible...
Now, as a movie star he might have to pay more...or nothing...Everything depends...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:54:02 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:55:04 AM
Most of my friends I don't even charge...and discounts are also possible...
Now, as a movie star he might have to pay more...or nothing...Everything depends...

On........like if he brings his own gear or not?  ;) ;D 8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Havenbull on April 08, 2007, 08:55:57 AM
Most of my friends I don't even charge...and discounts are also possible...
Now, as a movie star he might have to pay more...or nothing...Everything depends...

Milos, serious question...

If you're training a celebrity, do they require you to sign a confidentiality agreement assuring them that you will not disclose any "extras" that said celebrity might have used on their own free will.  As a trainer, you have to know everything about their intake, dietary and otherwise, right?

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 08:58:15 AM
On........like it he brings his own gear or not?  ;) ;D 8)

Not gear...but maybe Angelina (with or without Brad)...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 08:59:52 AM
Not gear...but maybe Angelina (with or without Brad)...

Mishko is a bad ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By far the pro with the best sense of humor on this board. 
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 09:02:16 AM
Milos, serious question...

If you're training a celebrity, do they require you to sign a confidentiality agreement assuring them that you will not disclose any "extras" that said celebrity might have used on their own free will.  As a trainer, you have to know everything about their intake, dietary and otherwise, right?



I have no secrets...but I respect everyone's privacy.
I would not disclose ANYTHING clients don't want me to disclose...

Training is never a secret - anyone can come and see it (experience it) in my gym...and photos like this hopefully help some of you...

Do you think I have nothing else to do this morning?
I got up little earlier - so you guys on GETBIG could see example of exceptional training...
If one person benefits from it - it was worth posting...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:04:20 AM
Sweet, so if Kev-O can produce Angelina, a trade can be made for an Olympia caliber physique?

Mishko is all about the poon.  8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 09:05:02 AM
Mishko is a bad ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By far the pro with the best sense of humor on this board. 

Well, wouldn't you want to see me train Angelina?
I mean it would be 100 sets of 100 reps - peck deck, stiff leg dead lifts, inner/outer tigh machine, kick backs, laying leg curls...etc...

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:05:52 AM
I have no secrets...but I respect everyone's privacy.
I would not disclose ANYTHING clients don't want me to disclose...

Training is never a secret - anyone can come and see it (experience it) in my gym...and photos like this hopefully help some of you...

Do you think I have nothing else to do this morning?
I got up little earlier - so you guys on GETBIG could see example of exceptional training...
If one person benefits from it - it was worth posting...
He he you are benefiting your enemy. ;D
Anyway,look good.
 One day near future i will sneak into there.
Cus I am a snake!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:07:47 AM
He he you are benefiting your enemy. ;D
Anyway,look good.
 One day near future i will sneak into there.
Cus I am a snake!

Translation = The japanese guy standing around with an erection is Kyomu not Mitsu Okabe.   ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 09:09:28 AM
NEXT ROTATION:

1- Single leg dead lift
2- lunge-step up combo
3- Smith machine squats (wide stance)
4- Barbel squat (resting on the decline bench)
5- Barbel squat (pause on the bottom)
6- Barbel lunges (short-medium-long)
7- Side step ups (from squating position)

Girls did 3 rotations with incresingly heavier weight in each rotation
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: MAXX on April 08, 2007, 09:10:01 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=139725.0;attach=157062;image)
i have this machine leg press on my gym.

i like to finish of my leg sessions doing 3 sets on it with very close stance on this. feet allmost together and knees close in to.

gives an very nice burn/pump in outer quads.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:10:36 AM
Translation = The japanese guy standing around with an erection is Kyomu not Mitsu Okabe.   ;D
Dont worry,Honey. Never cheat on you. Nothing is better than 247lbs fatass!! :-X
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:12:53 AM
NEXT ROTATION:

1- Single leg dead lift
2- lunge-step up combo
3- Smith machine squats (wide stance)
4- Barbel squat (resting on the decline bench)
5- Barbel squat (pause on the bottom)
6- Barbel lunges (short-medium-long)
7- Side step ups (from squating position)

Girls did 3 rotations with incresingly heavier weight in each rotation
Do you use forced reps also if your boys/girls cant accomplish the reps you decide?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Debussey on April 08, 2007, 09:15:19 AM
Today we did legs...  With Milos...
Besides my legs hurting and my walk being far from "Figure Stage Graceful", also, my throat is killing me from all the screaming and grunting...
Not only I won't be able to properly walk for a couple of days, but also speak...
I also have mascara runs on my face, and that is from crying.....twice.....
Despite all that, I am the happiest being in the world right this moment!  I did it...  I survived...  I gave it ALL, and I am REALLY looking forward for some MORE!
Thank you, Milos...
Nuf said


Your name = teh funny.

It reminds Debussey of "Rotary club".

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:21:03 AM
Dont worry,Honey. Never cheat on you. Nothing is better than 247lbs fatass!! :-X

Sorry to break it to ya tiny, but I'm not 247.  I don't know what your obsession with 247 is because I can't understand what the fcuk you are trying to convey when you type.  He sounds like a schmoe version of Musclecenter (no offense musclecenter).  Are you the japanese shadow?

You may want to stick with an International Board till you get the hang of this.   ;) ;D 8)

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:23:12 AM
Sorry to break it to ya tiny, but I'm not 247.  I don't know what your obsession with 247 is because I can't understand what the fcuk you are trying to convey when you type.  He sounds like a schmoe version of Musclecenter (no offense musclecenter).  Are you the japanese shadow?

You may want to stick with an International Board till you get the hang of this.   ;) ;D 8)
Be careful .You start everything calling me a fag. OK?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:25:26 AM
Be careful .You start everything calling me a fag. OK?

Did you not type this?

Hey!Whats up?
This pic really look good. Why didnt you post it before?
Now I see you good and believe you that chubby was not you.
You can post more!Common!

Gay as the day is long, and as short as................... well you get the rest.... :o ;D 8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:30:11 AM
Did you not type this?

Gay as the day is long, and as short as................... well you get the rest.... :o ;D 8)
Well explain me how is that post look like homo?Mr. insecure?
I am not red neck like you.Even if i am homo,i will never hide like you or another small balls guys in here.I know many good homosexual guy as a human.
Discriminate homo is just like descriminate other races.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 09:30:46 AM
Do you use forced reps also if your boys/girls cant accomplish the reps you decide?

YES
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:30:49 AM
Land of the Rising Sun Meltdown!!!


Well explain me how is that post look like homo?Mr. insecure?
I am not red neck like you.Even if i am homo,i will never hide like you or another small balls guys in here.I know many good homosexual guy as a human.
Discriminate homo is just like descriminate other races.

Epic Reverse Racism, What are you trying to say, it's lost in translation?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:39:22 AM
YES
Then there is a question.Mmmmvery hard to explain.

I think some people have better concentlation and work his/her muscle better than another.
So maybe the first one finish the routine much earlier and less than the other.
In this case,if you use a forced rep to go failer,some good bber cant finish the routine which another can finish.
What can you do it?
Sorry for my poor english, my enemy....

OK. then in other words...
If Mike Mentzer and Dorian come to your gym and do your giant set.Maybe they cant finish it.
Am I wrong?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:41:47 AM
Then there is a question.Mmmmvery hard to explain.

I think some people have better concentlation and work his/her muscle better than another.
So maybe the first one finish the routine much earlier and less than the other.
In this case,if you use a forced rep to go failer,some good bber cant finish the routine which another can finish.
What can you do it?
Sorry for my poor english, my enemy....

OK. then in other words...
If Mike Mentzer and Dorian come to your gym and do your giant set.Maybe they cant finish it.
Am I wrong?

 ???
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: MAXX on April 08, 2007, 09:43:35 AM
Then there is a question.Mmmmvery hard to explain.

I think some people have better concentlation and work his/her muscle better than another.
So maybe the first one finish the routine much earlier and less than the other.
In this case,if you use a forced rep to go failer,some good bber cant finish the routine which another can finish.
What can you do it?
Sorry for my poor english, my enemy....

OK. then in other words...
If Mike Mentzer and Dorian come to your gym and do your giant set.Maybe they cant finish it.
Am I wrong?

lmao
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:44:46 AM
Land of the Rising Sun Meltdown!!!


Epic Reverse Racism, What are you trying to say, it's lost in translation?

I dont discriminate white. My wife is white. Most of my friend is white.
But I say "red neck".Because many rural white american are racist and hate home to the extreme because of their conservative attitude through catolicism.Maybe you are one of them,son..

Meltdown    Translation:Oh,you are right but i cant admit what you say,because i am a weak mind person.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 09:48:34 AM
Then there is a question.Mmmmvery hard to explain.

I think some people have better concentlation and work his/her muscle better than another.
So maybe the first one finish the routine much earlier and less than the other.
In this case,if you use a forced rep to go failer,some good bber cant finish the routine which another can finish.
What can you do it?
Sorry for my poor english, my enemy....

OK. then in other words...
If Mike Mentzer and Dorian come to your gym and do your giant set.Maybe they cant finish it.
Am I wrong?

Green Buddha...I mean Mamba...
I asked Hide to give me a name of good psychiatrist in Japan...but than I realized that you are not in Japan...
Well, Alcohol Anonymous groups are everywhere...so maybe it's good idea to look for them when you are sober...

There is nothing like drunk Mamba...Happy Easter  ;D

 ;D ;D- I am just kidding Mamba - Try this on English this time...and really "Spell Check" button underneath this post is quite useable tool...If you can nicely (Please - for the love of God) check your text before you post it...It would make it much more interesting - IF WE UNDERSTAND ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:49:33 AM
I dont discriminate white. My wife is white. Most of my friend is white.
But I say "red neck".Because many rural white american are racist and hate home to the extreme because of their conservative attitude through catolicism.Maybe you are one of them,son..

Meltdown    Translation:Oh,you are right but i cant admit what you say,because i am a weak mind person.

Mr. Miyagi, you own yourself with every keystroke.  ;D <---- This is you smiling.  8)

Green Buddha...I mean Mamba...
I asked Hide to give me a name of good psychiatrist in Japan...but than I realized that you are not in Japan...
Well, Alcohol Anonymous groups are everywhere...so maybe it's good idea to look for them when you are sober...

There is nothing like drunk Mamba...Happy Easter  ;D

 ;D ;D- I am just kidding Mamba - Try this on English this time...and really "Spell Check" button underneath this post is quite useable tool...If you can nicely (Please - for the love of God) check your text before you post it...It would make it much more interesting - IF WE UNDERSTAND ;)

LMFAO.............Mishko even threw flames at him!!!  Coolest pro on the board by far.  8)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:51:03 AM
lmao
Explanation:
Dorian and Mike Mentzer train totaly opposite to Milos style.
Short set with maximam concentlation.
So these two are always try to all out in one set.
From this reason, their maximum concentlation in one set is much greater than other IFBB pro.
In this case, even if they lift light, its almost impossible to accomplish Milos giant set like Marathon style.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:52:22 AM
Explanation:
Dorian and Mike Mentzer train totaly opposite to Milos style.
Short set with maximam concent"l"ation.
So these two are always try to all out in one set.
From this reason, their maximum concentlation in one set is much greater than other IFBB pro.
In this case, even if they lift light, its almost impossible to accomplish Milos giant set like Marathon style.

R is the letter your looking for.  Is that why you guys say Robster Craw's when asking for Lobster?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 09:54:29 AM
R is the letter your looking for.  Is that why you guys say Robster Craw's when asking for Lobster?
I dont care about my english. How many language do you speak gentleman?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 09:55:37 AM
I dont care about my english. How many language do you speak gentleman?

3 - English, Hungarian, Korean  ;) ;D 8)

And before you ask yes I am descended from the Magyars.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Green Buddha...I mean Mamba...
I asked Hide to give me a name of good psychiatrist in Japan...but than I realized that you are not in Japan...
Well, Alcohol Anonymous groups are everywhere...so maybe it's good idea to look for them when you are sober...

There is nothing like drunk Mamba...Happy Easter  ;D

 ;D ;D- I am just kidding Mamba - Try this on English this time...and really "Spell Check" button underneath this post is quite useable tool...If you can nicely (Please - for the love of God) check your text before you post it...It would make it much more interesting - IF WE UNDERSTAND ;)
No I dont think its because of miss-speling. Just i cant explain it very well.

OK. Honestly.
I dont have any confidence to finish your routine no matter how light the weight is.
If i go to failure several sets in these giant sets,I sure cant finish them.

Because i train my legs only 4 sets of squat and 2 sets of leg presses(Warm up doesnt count),and I am knock down on the flour.Why I do so short,cus i dont feel anything in that stage and i barely cant go up and down stairs.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Stavios on April 08, 2007, 10:09:04 AM
No I dont think its because of miss-speling. Just i cant explain it very well.

OK. Honestly.
I dont have any confidence to finish your routine no matter how light the weight is.
If i go to failure several sets in these giant sets,I sure cant finish them.

Because i train my legs only 4 sets of squat and 2 sets of leg presses(Warm up doesnt count),and I am knock down on the flour.Why I do so short,cus i dont feel anything in that stage and i barely cant go up and down stairs.



Damn Kyomu you are obsessed with Milos  :o
you should let it go man
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
No I dont think its because of miss-speling. Just i cant explain it very well.

OK. Honestly.
I dont have any confidence to finish your routine no matter how light the weight is.
If i go to failure several sets in these giant sets,I sure cant finish them.

Because i train my legs only 4 sets of squat and 2 sets of leg presses(Warm up doesnt count),and I am knock down on the flour.Why I do so short,cus i dont feel anything in that stage and i barely cant go up and down stairs.


So are you saying you are a pussy?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
So are you saying you are a pussy?
Show me your huge legs and talk to me.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 10:14:28 AM
You left your calves in Japan, or perhaps some Ninjas stole them.  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 10:20:00 AM

Damn Kyomu you are obsessed with Milos  :o
you should let it go man
No no mate. I am not angry at all now.
Just a honest question.
My training style is very short and intense.
His training style is  very long and intense.
Thats why his style is beyond my imagination.
So I ask him to make it clear.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 08, 2007, 10:26:45 AM
No no mate. I am not angry at all now.
Just a honest question.
My training style is very short and intense.
His training style is  very long and intense.
Thats why his style is beyond my imagination.
So I ask him to make it clear.
imo (please, this is totally just me guessing) I think it's cuz you need a certain level of endurance to be able to support mad additional muscle weight and stress. So your heart, lungs and vascular system needs to be ultra strong and then you're body will be able to easily build AND SUPPORT massive amounts of muscle. Whereas normally it wouldn't. So if you do lots of lifting, but very have very little endurance, your body can only go so far simply because it can't support anymore muscle.

This, imo, is where people get the idea that pros have a hard time walking up stairs, etc...because as they (meaning the non-pro) are gaining weight, they aren't concurrently gaining endurance (heart/lung/vascular system) to support their additional weight -- so they have problems walking up stairs, their gains stop, and/or they have a heart attack. Therefor they project this idea onto pros who have gnarly amounts of muscle without taking into consideration that the pros have already increased their endurance sufficiently to support that additional weight/stress.

Yea I thought this before working w/ Milos -- and for all I know, this is TOTALLY wrong and not what he things anyhow -- so I'm not just parroting his mantra  ::). I just didn't realize how it was to be done.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 10:27:02 AM
Explanation:
Dorian and Mike Mentzer train totaly opposite to Milos style.
Short set with maximam concentlation.
So these two are always try to all out in one set.
From this reason, their maximum concentlation in one set is much greater than other IFBB pro.
In this case, even if they lift light, its almost impossible to accomplish Milos giant set like Marathon style.

I also have supermom or maximam...and she loves to concentlate...Always short concentlation
So these three are always try to ALL OUT in one set.
For that reason their maximam is much greater than any other mama of the IFBB pro.
 ;D ;D ;D

OK...so much for my "Spell Check" or speak English suggestion...

How about this Mamba...I trained with Dorian several times...I can tell you that I could follow his style of training ANYDAY...even at his best...
I trained with him in Venice after he won 1995 - in his best condition to date...and 1996...and 1998, 1999, 2000...

Try to understand: I will use ONE SET ALL OUT THEORY and after I am either OUT or ALMOST OUT - I would add additional set of complementing exercise of choice...and go out or "almost out" (WHAT IS OUT - REALLY?)...and than add another one...and another one...and 22 more...

I don't care what people say - THIS IS THE ULTIMATELY HARDEST WAY TO TRAIN...and depending on HOW CRAZY you really want to go - there is NO LIMIT...

Whatever you do in ONE ALL OUT...try to double it, than triple it...than maximama it...and you'll have cancellation of your concentlation...or something like that...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 10:29:01 AM
3 - English, Hungarian, Korean  ;) ;D 8)

And before you ask yes I am descended from the Magyars.

How is your "edes apad"?
Hogy wagy borathom?

and viszantlatasra... ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 10:30:58 AM

OK...so much for my "Spell Check" or speak English suggestion...


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o ;D 8)   



Mamba  :'(
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 10:35:35 AM
I also have supermom or maximam...and she loves to concentlate...Always short concentlation
So these three are always try to ALL OUT in one set.
For that reason their maximam is much greater than any other mama of the IFBB pro.
 ;D ;D ;D

OK...so much for my "Spell Check" or speak English suggestion...

How about this Mamba...I trained with Dorian several times...I can tell you that I could follow his style of training ANYDAY...even at his best...
I trained with him in Venice after he won 1995 - in his best condition to date...and 1996...and 1998, 1999, 2000...

Try to understand: I will use ONE SET ALL OUT THEORY and after I am either OUT or ALMOST OUT - I would add additional set of complementing exercise of choice...and go out or "almost out" (WHAT IS OUT - REALLY?)...and than add another one...and another one...and 22 more...

I don't care what people say - THIS IS THE ULTIMATELY HARDEST WAY TO TRAIN...and depending on HOW CRAZY you really want to go - there is NO LIMIT...

Whatever you do in ONE ALL OUT...try to double it, than triple it...than maximama it...and you'll have cancellation of your concentlation...or something like that...

Thanx. Thats a very good answer.

OK. There is no limit..But you cant do it forever.Thats more difficult than flying. ;D
Beside of joke,Then you said "and than add another one...and another one...and 22 more...".
When is the time to stop and which muscle feeling is the sign of stop?
When you feel nothing more? Or When you cant move even 1inch?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 10:39:13 AM
And also. Of course,you follow the way of Dorian is much easier.

Its like Marathon runner try to run 100m.
But 100mdash athlete cant do marathon.Apart from his physic,he dont know the tecnic of marathon running.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Dballn247 on April 08, 2007, 11:20:31 AM
How is your "edes apad"?
Hogy wagy borathom?

and visantlatasra... ;)

komikus!!!  ;D

Milos...I've been looking through the photos in this thread, bad ass gym and some hot ass chicks.  Well done sir, well done.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 11:22:51 AM
And also. Of course,you follow the way of Dorian is much easier.

Its like Marathon runner try to run 100m.
But 100mdash athlete cant do marathon.Apart from his physic,he dont know the tecnic of marathon running.

You see - you set your limitations AGAIN...my style will actually made that possible - SPRINTING THE MARATHON!

How about that?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
You see - you set your limitations AGAIN...my style will actually made that possible - SPRINTING THE MARATHON!

How about that?
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds really exciting!!!

Hey,if i go to your gym, can i taste that "SPRINTING THE MARATHON!"?(I am talking seriously.Maybe in this summer.Of course i would pay to you ;D I am a marchant too. Nothing is free.Especially good thing.)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 08, 2007, 12:19:25 PM
milos, are you in fact trying to say it isn't "too easy"?

do you believe in "overtraining"?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 12:23:02 PM
milos, are you in fact trying to say it isn't "too easy"?

do you believe in "overtraining"?
I think there is no overtraining in his way.Because of the weight they use(Light weight).
With Intensity alone it doesnt happen.
How is the truth?Milos.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 08, 2007, 12:31:10 PM
i just went to register at milos's site, and i guess i've been a member since 04.  brutal memory loss.
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Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 12:36:03 PM
i just went to register at milos's site, and i guess i've been a member since 04.  brutal memory loss.
Hey I feel your spirits old(I mean adult.).
How old are you?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Devon97 on April 08, 2007, 12:43:49 PM
One of the most sad thing in the fitness industry is that guys like Milos actual Genius on the field have a hard time getting paid while  people pay hundrends and hundrends of dollars to some pathetic trainers in some studios in Beverly Hills. You guys know what I am talking about.

Maby thats because no one wants to look like a bber>>???
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 08, 2007, 12:46:04 PM
Hey I feel your spirits old(I mean adult.).
How old are you?

25
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Post by: kyomu on April 08, 2007, 12:47:49 PM
25
Good job. Keep on going like that.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 08, 2007, 08:33:43 PM
Maby thats because no one wants to look like a bber>>???

That is that most stupid statement ever. It like saying I don't want Shaq to teach me Basketball because I don't want to be 7 foot tall. I have some guys with similar level of ignorance tell me. "I do want to get that big".....Devon don't worry your are not going to look like Ronnie or Milos even if you wanted to. Do you think that some of these trainers in 24 hour fitness know more that Milos. Please I beg you think before posting something so so stupid.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 08, 2007, 08:50:24 PM
That is that most stupid statement ever. It like saying I don't want Shaq to teach me Basketball because I don't want to be 7 foot tall. I have some guys with similar level of ignorance tell me. "I do want to get that big".....Devon don't worry your are not going to look like Ronnie or Milos even if you wanted to. Do you think that some of these trainers in 24 hour fitness know more that Milos. Please I beg you think before posting something so so stupid.
heh, I think we've already established that Devon97 is a little short on the IQ totem pole.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 08, 2007, 08:53:20 PM
Thank you, Milos for your kind words!
It is easy to do well in the workouts and stay inspired when trained by you!  It is your amazing combination of DEEP KNOWLEDGE and HEART that makes you the best!
I am really looking forward to our next workout at the KOLOSEUM!!!
Z ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 08, 2007, 08:56:36 PM
Garraeth,

Legs are insane now....how are you feeling?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 08, 2007, 09:04:11 PM
Garraeth,

Legs are insane now....how are you feeling?
Fatigued, but ok. Sore, but not so much I couldn't do 20 on the treadmill tonight  ;D ...keep blood moving ya know.

Need to work on my focus -- after the first round I was psyched out and it took me a lot to get back into the groove...even then, I'm disappointed that I had to cheat as much as I did.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 08, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
Fatigued, but ok. Sore, but not so much I couldn't do 20 on the treadmill tonight  ;D ...keep blood moving ya know.

Need to work on my focus -- after the first round I was psyched out and it took me a lot to get back into the groove...even then, I'm disappointed that I had to cheat as much as I did.



I feel that same disappointed with my performance. That workout requires much more mental that physical stregth....that is why not necessary the strongest do the best on it. But the NEXT one WE will leave no regrets...kkkkk
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 08, 2007, 10:50:01 PM
I feel that same disappointed with my performance. That workout requires much more mental that physical stregth....that is why not necessary the strongest do the best on it. But the NEXT one WE will leave no regrets...kkkkk
Yeah, first one is always goofy...

It reminded me of public speaking -- first couple times you're a retard, then it gets easy.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 11:37:02 PM
milos, are you in fact trying to say it isn't "too easy"?

do you believe in "overtraining"?

Training per se cannot be OVER (too much) TRAINING...other things come in play to assess that someone is "overtraining" mode.
Undereating (insufficient amount of nutrients and calories) and undersleeping (resting) along with insufficient level of conditioning - could cause overtraining...but NOT if you are conditioned athlete knowing his dietary needs and resting demands.

Body adopts to everything - extreme highs as well as extreme lows... ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 11:40:55 PM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds really exciting!!!

Hey,if i go to your gym, can i taste that "SPRINTING THE MARATHON!"?(I am talking seriously.Maybe in this summer.Of course i would pay to you ;D I am a marchant too. Nothing is free.Especially good thing.)


Hey, if you can't sprint even 100 meters you wouldn't taste much of that "marathon sprint"...
You have to learn how to walk before you learn how to run...sprint...jump...(and OK if you say so: FLY)...

First you sprint 100 dash...than 200...400...800...1500.. .and so ON...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 08, 2007, 11:44:01 PM
I think there is no overtraining in his way.Because of the weight they use(Light weight).
With Intensity alone it doesnt happen.
How is the truth?Milos.

Mamba - I will use more weight in my 10th exercise (in the sequence during the giant set) than you in your first one (or your all out straight set)...and you can pick the exercise of your choice.
So, stop the "light weight" nonsense... ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:28:25 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:29:23 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:30:17 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:31:14 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:32:24 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:40:10 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:41:56 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:42:49 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:44:40 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:45:33 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:02:19 AM
 :)
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:03:58 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:05:07 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:06:17 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:07:29 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Mydavid on April 09, 2007, 01:08:23 AM
WOW!!!! I sure wish i had a chance to workout with you guys...now i am chubby ;D

Lisa
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:10:08 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 04:10:46 AM
Hey, if you can't sprint even 100 meters you wouldn't taste much of that "marathon sprint"...
You have to learn how to walk before you learn how to run...sprint...jump...(and OK if you say so: FLY)...

First you sprint 100 dash...than 200...400...800...1500.. .and so ON...

Hey, How can you tell i dont know how to walk(Basic intense exercise)huh??
Are you judging me with my pic or what?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 04:25:05 AM
Mamba - I will use more weight in my 10th exercise (in the sequence during the giant set) than you in your first one (or your all out straight set)...and you can pick the exercise of your choice.
So, stop the "light weight" nonsense... ;)
Oh yes? Now i dont but last year i was doing full bottom squat(Until my calf touch my hams) with 5plates each side 6 reps.I dont believe that you do it in your last set of your giant set.
I said "Light weight". But be careful. Light weight means light for YOU.
Of course, you are a pro,your light weight is heavy for me.
I AM NOT BITING YOU.I hope you understand.
The post dwelling on your "Light weight"  was quite respectful meaning.
If your best lift is 7 plates each side with 6 reps,i consider that you are training with light weight when you train with 4 plates each side.
Be careful i am not like another getbig kids.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: omg on April 09, 2007, 05:04:59 AM
ok..after reading the entire thread

and milos + kyomu's english are terrible
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 05:07:08 AM
ok..after reading the entire thread

and milos + kyomu's english are terrible
We are foreigners. Leave us alone.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 08:46:28 AM
Oh yes? Now i dont but last year i was doing full bottom squat(Until my calf touch my hams) with 5plates each side 6 reps.I dont believe that you do it in your last set of your giant set.
I said "Light weight". But be careful. Light weight means light for YOU.
Of course, you are a pro,your light weight is heavy for me.
I AM NOT BITING YOU.I hope you understand.
The post dwelling on your "Light weight"  was quite respectful meaning.
If your best lift is 7 plates each side with 6 reps,i consider that you are training with light weight when you train with 4 plates each side.
Be careful i am not like another getbig kids.

Kyomu, you are one of those typical "ego lifters" who remembers that once in your life you did 4-5-6-7 ::) plates for so many reps in particular exercise...when in reality you possibly loaded the bar, picked up the weight and than shaked a little (OK - maybe moved ONE INCH - counting that as a "perfect rep"...) hence stories about some incredible lift you made...

So, for that reason - I don't ever take "stories" but give people chance to show me in person..."Hic Rhodos (Koloseum Gym) - Hic Salta"...

I respond to "Light weight" as You have no clue how heavy we are doing particular exercise and in which style...
If you see dbell press (as example) you don't know what I request from the guys...as you are only seeing pictures...
I could ask for 100 or 120 pound dbell press (just simple lifting) or 50 - 70 pound dbell press where I ask for super slow "squeezing" and not "lifting" (where any momentum is out of question and guys have to only squeeze their way up - push dbell in super slow fashion up and same way down)...

Next, each rotation I will increase the weight...so I want to clarify that SPRINTING THE MARATHON is exactly that - sprinting full speed distance of the marathon...Has anyone done that? Probably not...but don't bet your life it wont happen one of these days...

My training is everything but light...and as far as you personally Mamba - I'll take you on any offer - betting whatever you ask for - that I would do exactly what I claim...(as you are not typical Getbig kid as you said - maybe you'll accept the challenge).

Now, only one thing I do request - when we lift - you have to lift FULL RANGE OF MOTION...not those partial reps which looks like someone is having a seasure...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 09, 2007, 08:49:47 AM
my Lord that Zhanna chick's body is incredible. :o
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:05:06 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:05:26 AM
Kyomu, you are one of those typical "ego lifters" who remembers that once in your life you did 4-5-6-7 ::) plates for so many reps in particular exercise...when in reality you possibly loaded the bar, picked up the weight and than shaked a little (OK - maybe moved ONE INCH - counting that as a "perfect rep"...) hence stories about some incredible lift you made...

So, for that reason - I don't ever take "stories" but give people chance to show me in person..."Hic Rhodos (Koloseum Gym) - Hic Salta"...

I respond to "Light weight" as You have no clue how heavy we are doing particular exercise and in which style...
If you see dbell press (as example) you don't know what I request from the guys...as you are only seeing pictures...
I could ask for 100 or 120 pound dbell press (just simple lifting) or 50 - 70 pound dbell press where I ask for super slow "squeezing" and not "lifting" (where any momentum is out of question and guys have to only squeeze their way up - push dbell in super slow fashion up and same way down)...

Next, each rotation I will increase the weight...so I want to clarify that SPRINTING THE MARATHON is exactly that - sprinting full speed distance of the marathon...Has anyone done that? Probably not...but don't bet your life it wont happen one of these days...

My training is everything but light...and as far as you personally Mamba - I'll take you on any offer - betting whatever you ask for - that I would do exactly what I claim...(as you are not typical Getbig kid as you said - maybe you'll accept the challenge).

Now, only one thing I do request - when we lift - you have to lift FULL RANGE OF MOTION...not those partial reps which looks like someone is having a seasure...
Shaking little bit??
Did you read well i posted?Or are you a blind person???

"Now, only one thing I do request - when we lift - you have to lift FULL RANGE OF MOTION...not those partial reps which looks like someone is having a seasure..."

I said "i was doing full bottom squat(Until my calf touch my hams)"
Even Paco told me that i go bottom too much.
And also Your pal-Mustafa told me in santa susana that i have good pair of wheels.
How can i build my legs with go partial?
Plus I hate partial reps because i dont feel burn from it.

"I respond to "Light weight" as You have no clue how heavy we are doing particular exercise and in which style...
If you see dbell press (as example) you don't know what I request from the guys...as you are only seeing pictures...
I could ask for 100 or 120 pound dbell press (just simple lifting) or 50 - 70 pound dbell press where I ask for super slow "squeezing" and not "lifting" (where any momentum is out of question and guys have to only squeeze their way up - push dbell in super slow fashion up and same way down)..."

I have understood it from the beginning. Of course, i know how you do it(Super slow squeezing etc.).Thats why i was interested in how you train from the beginning.
I am very sure that i am gonna throw up with ridiculous light weight feeling like lifting ton,if i train with you.

"My training is everything but light...and as far as you personally Mamba - I'll take you on any offer - betting whatever you ask for - that I would do exactly what I claim...(as you are not typical Getbig kid as you said - maybe you'll accept the challenge)."

Of course, i want to go to your gym in this summer. I told you.





Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:06:50 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:18:52 AM
I go deep same as this purple girl.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=139725.0;attach=157280;image)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:19:15 AM
Shaking little bit??
Did you read well i posted?Or are you a blind person???

"Now, only one thing I do request - when we lift - you have to lift FULL RANGE OF MOTION...not those partial reps which looks like someone is having a seasure..."

I said "i was doing full bottom squat(Until my calf touch my hams)"
Even Paco told me that i go bottom too much.
And also Your pal-Mustafa told me in santa susana that i have good pair of wheels.
How can i build my legs with go partial?
Plus I hate partial reps because i dont feel burn from it.

"I respond to "Light weight" as You have no clue how heavy we are doing particular exercise and in which style...
If you see dbell press (as example) you don't know what I request from the guys...as you are only seeing pictures...
I could ask for 100 or 120 pound dbell press (just simple lifting) or 50 - 70 pound dbell press where I ask for super slow "squeezing" and not "lifting" (where any momentum is out of question and guys have to only squeeze their way up - push dbell in super slow fashion up and same way down)..."

I have understood it from the beginning. Of course, i know how you do it(Super slow squeezing etc.).Thats why i was interested in how you train from the beginning.
I am very sure that i am gonna throw up with ridiculous light weight feeling like lifting ton,if i train with you.

"My training is everything but light...and as far as you personally Mamba - I'll take you on any offer - betting whatever you ask for - that I would do exactly what I claim...(as you are not typical Getbig kid as you said - maybe you'll accept the challenge)."

Of course, i want to go to your gym in this summer. I told you.







OK?
What did you say with all this?

I told you NOT to use "light weight" as you might confuse some people thinking that I use light weights in my giant sets.

I use different methods in almost every exercise so first one could be "normal lifting", second could be "super slow", third could be with pause and explosive concentric part, next could be the opposite - accelerating on eccentric portion of the movement, next is maybe "inch by inch" (stopping your lift at every inch), etc..etc...

Take HALF of your best squat and go all the way down. Pause there for 3 seconds and than just "squeeze your way up"...Try to do 10 reps with WHATEVER weight possible...
If someone takes the pictures - gebigers will die laughing telling you that you lift LIGHT when in reality you were dying and weight was HEAVY for you...and possibly you might not even be able to complete 10 reps...

Now, if you are trainer - would you want someone to call your system LIGHT TRAINING?
And NOT because of EGO...but because of information...
I don't want anyone to think - my training is LIGHT...as it is NOT...I choose MAXIMAL WEIGHT in each and every particular exercise...

I hope this helps.

BTW - Mustafa with all his leg size could never follow my leg training...and if he gave you a compliment - it was for a reason...9he probably told you about his family next and ...the rest is easy to figure.../did you give him some money ::)/...)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:20:21 AM
I go deep same as this purple girl.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=139725.0;attach=157280;image)


But can you lift as much as her? ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:21:24 AM
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:22:23 AM
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:23:16 AM
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:26:39 AM
OK?
What did you say with all this?

I told you NOT to use "light weight" as you might confuse some people thinking that I use light weights in my giant sets.

I use different methods in almost every exercise so first one could be "normal lifting", second could be "super slow", third could be with pause and explosive concentric part, next could be the opposite - accelerating on eccentric portion of the movement, next is maybe "inch by inch" (stopping your lift at every inch), etc..etc...

Take HALF of your best squat and go all the way down. Pause there for 3 seconds and than just "squeeze your way up"...Try to do 10 reps with WHATEVER weight possible...
If someone takes the pictures - gebigers will die laughing telling you that you lift LIGHT when in reality you were dying and weight was HEAVY for you...and possibly you might not even be able to complete 10 reps...

Now, if you are trainer - would you want someone to call your system LIGHT TRAINING?
And NOT because of EGO...but because of information...
I don't want anyone to think - my training is LIGHT...as it is NOT...I choose MAXIMAL WEIGHT in each and every particular exercise...

I hope this helps.

BTW - Mustafa with all his leg size could never follow my leg training...and if he gave you a compliment - it was for a reason...9he probably told you about his family next and ...the rest is easy to figure.../did you give him some money ::)/...)
Ahh... now i understand. Then sorry, I apologize to you calling it "Light weight".
I will avoid it.

About Mustafa...Bwahahahahahah ahahaha!!!!!
NO no no!!! I didnt give anything.
As for now, only i have this pic of my legs. So you judge me by yourself.I am a natural bber too.
I will take another pic later, because i am on diet now.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:29:36 AM
But can you lift as much as her? ;D
I dont know. I am not sure.(Seriously)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: jaejonna on April 09, 2007, 09:29:53 AM
^^^ brutal legs ^^^

softer than ice cream on a hot summer's day
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumpster on April 09, 2007, 09:30:36 AM

I will take another pic later, because i am on diet now.

Brutal 1952 socks/sneakers combo.

When were the calves hijacked? :'(
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumpster on April 09, 2007, 09:32:09 AM
She can squat on me anytime. :o
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:33:35 AM
Brutal 1952 socks/sneakers combo.

Were the calves kidnapped?
My calves are not small. Soon I take another pic. I dont have a weak point standing out.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 09:35:40 AM
^^^ brutal legs ^^^

softer than ice cream on a hot summer's day
I have cut my legs many times in my life. Soon you will see it.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:40:24 AM
I have cut my legs many times in my life. Soon you will see it.

Shaving or what?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumpster on April 09, 2007, 09:43:47 AM
Shaving or what?

NAIR Kyomu, NAIR  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 09, 2007, 09:44:19 AM
Shaving or what?
lol, I didn't think you had a sense of humor.  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:46:18 AM
 ;D ;D

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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:47:29 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Big N on April 09, 2007, 09:50:32 AM
Milos you're a funny guy dude, taking the advantage of other fitness competitors pictures and post up yours as well. Since when did you decide of comparing yourself with fitness competitors  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 09:50:45 AM
lol, I didn't think you had a sense of humor.  ;D

I'll humor you tonight when I suggest that we should do ANOTHER back to back leg training at 8PM...
The problem is - what if I am not joking?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Big N on April 09, 2007, 09:51:31 AM
Ah damn you for taking down your pix!!! lol I double dare you to post them up again dude  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: garraeth on April 09, 2007, 09:56:06 AM
I'll humor you tonight when I suggest that we should do ANOTHER back to back leg training at 8PM...
The problem is - what if I am not joking?

haha, damm, I'm gonna start sweating blood...I'd better shut the hell up  ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Bast000 on April 09, 2007, 09:56:44 AM
My calves are not small. Soon I take another pic. I dont have a weak point standing out.

just your gut
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:03:06 AM
Milos you're a funny guy dude, taking the advantage of other fitness competitors pictures and post up yours as well. Since when did you decide of comparing yourself with fitness competitors  ;D

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Which one suppose to be me (help me as I am "slow" in the morning)...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 09, 2007, 10:03:09 AM
            Hey Milos and Beautiful Milamar!
           Tamer (Evil Angel) and I just saw the pics you posted of our workout and just by looking at them our legs started to lock up and hurt much more!  It is funny though that something like that can put a smile on your face, talking about being in LOVE with the sport!  OBSESSED is the word!
           Tamer has been telling me the whole morning how excited he is for the next leg workout!  I don't know why he is dissapointed with his performance on Saturday, I mean, he completed it and got out alive, and is excruciatingly sore today, but I guess he has a heart of a TRUE CHAMPION, always hungry for more, never satisfied with himself, "DON"T STOP AT THE TOP"...
That is how limits are defied and new standards are set...
I really love what you, Milos said about "sprinting a marathon"...  Imagine that!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:07:55 AM
Ah damn you for taking down your pix!!! lol I double dare you to post them up again dude  ;D

OK, I think I understand now - I posted these two photos (by mistake) as I was just searching my "index" photos on my Desktop...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:09:07 AM
Oooops - I made another mistake...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:10:35 AM
And please don't compare me with Silvio's "towel shot"...elswhere on this board... ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
Milos you're a funny guy dude, taking the advantage of other fitness competitors pictures and post up yours as well. Since when did you decide of comparing yourself with fitness competitors  ;D


Since this is the only contest I could win the "most muscular award"...but than again - imagine if I...loose?
Oooouch.

Well - here is the photo of my "fully loaded" appearance in my last SERIOUS outing (1999 British GP).
I managed to find the way to make myself look bigger on the stage than in my normal life (I certainly wasn't this big normally - but with specific carb loading method I pushed a "little" extra glycogen into the muscles).
I did compete in 2001 and 2003 - but I only competed for the sake of fullfilling my contractual obligations...and I definitely wasn't ready for it.

2001 in order to be resigned for my endorsement contract I had to sign to compete in either first or second group of shows (Ironman being in first group and NOC in second)...

I had a shoulder surgery but didn't want anyone to know - as I would have not been resigned...
So, I had 8 weeks to prepare (my worst prep ever - due to numerous limitations caused by injuries and a surgery) but I managed to be in the top 10 in both shows - (but I was not happy with the way I looked).

In 2002 I had severe quadriceps tear and consequently - 3 surgeries (with lots of complications)...and needless to say my 2003 version was still far away from anything spectacular...

Last year I was tempted to compete (Romania) - but I am glad that I didn't...as I do want to be BETTER THAN EVER next time I step on the stage...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 10:48:24 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 11:20:58 AM
I am looking for the volunteers to spot my girls in their next intense training sessions... ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 11:26:46 AM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 11:44:06 AM
Shaving or what?
As you say, i try to be nice to you.
But, I think you are the person who are trying to make me a snake,dont you?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:12:23 PM
just your gut
I was known for my small waist like Brian Buchanan when i was competing.Still my waist is small in spite of being fat now.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:14:03 PM
OK, so far we had:

2 Giant set rotations:

1- Stiff- leg dead lifts (emphasis on glutes)
2- Laying leg curls (upper body raised)
3- Laying leg curls (knees and feet together)
4- Laying leg curls (5 seconds peak contraction at the top/1st rotation/, 10 seconds on second rotation)
5- Leg extensions (5 seconds peak contraction at the top, 10 seconds in second rotation)
6- Stiff leg dead lift (emphasis on hamstrings)
7- Power leg extansions
8- Seated leg curls (super slow)
9- Reverse hyperextensions
10- Single (unilateral) leg extensions
11- Power Seated leg curls
12- Outter-tigh machine
13- Inner-tigh machine
14- Seated leg press (heels raised)
15- Power laying leg curls
16- Single (unilateral) leg curls (leg externally rotated)

NEXT ROTATION:

1- Single leg dead lift
2- lunge-step up combo
3- Smith machine squats (wide stance)
4- Barbel squat (resting on the decline bench)
5- Barbel squat (pause on the bottom)
6- Barbel lunges ()
7- Side step ups (from squating position)

Girls did 3 rotations with increasingly heavier weight in each rotation

And now:

1- Super slow hack squats on Tuff-Stuff Hack (I help them with the design). Slow eccentric, all the way down, pause 3 seconds on the bottom and than squeeze your way up using hams/glutes primarily...without locking knees at the top 9maintaining continuous tension)
2- "Suicide Smith Squats" - MUST have a spotter - Feet all the way in front and hips high. Maximal tension throughout the movement and SLOW reps. This is very challenging exercise - so don't try it ALONE...unless you do want to kill yourself...
3- Sissy Squats on Hack Machine - hips high, on toes...(shoulder-hips-knees should be "in one line"). GREAT, GREAT exercise I do with all of my clients...
4- Partial Hacks (wide stance) - all the way down, half way up - with 3 seconds pause at the top (rather: half way up)
5- Leg Press (high angle, pushing with heels - using hamstrings rather than quads. Pausing 3 seconds on the bottom).
6+7 - superset Stiff Leg Dead Lift for glutes, than Stiff Leg Dead Lift for Hams

Total of 2 rotations.

Next:
1- Tuff-Stuff Hacks - all the way down- half way up
2- Smith Squats - wide stands, all the way down - half way up
3- Reverse Hack Squats (3 seconds pause on the bottom)
4- Reverse Hack Squat Stiff Leg Dead Lifts
5- Leg Press for hams
6+7 same as last rotation

And that's not everything...YET.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:15:44 PM
OK, so far we had:

2 Giant set rotations:

1- Stiff- leg dead lifts (emphasis on glutes)
2- Laying leg curls (upper body raised)
3- Laying leg curls (knees and feet together)
4- Laying leg curls (5 seconds peak contraction at the top/1st rotation/, 10 seconds on second rotation)
5- Leg extensions (5 seconds peak contraction at the top, 10 seconds in second rotation)
6- Stiff leg dead lift (emphasis on hamstrings)
7- Power leg extansions
8- Seated leg curls (super slow)
9- Reverse hyperextensions
10- Single (unilateral) leg extensions
11- Power Seated leg curls
12- Outter-tigh machine
13- Inner-tigh machine
14- Seated leg press (heels raised)
15- Power laying leg curls
16- Single (unilateral) leg curls (leg externally rotated)

NEXT ROTATION:

1- Single leg dead lift
2- lunge-step up combo
3- Smith machine squats (wide stance)
4- Barbel squat (resting on the decline bench)
5- Barbel squat (pause on the bottom)
6- Barbel lunges ()
7- Side step ups (from squating position)

Girls did 3 rotations with increasingly heavier weight in each rotation

And now:

1- Super slow hack squats on Tuff-Stuff Hack (I help them with the design). Slow eccentric, all the way down, pause 3 seconds on the bottom and than squeeze your way up using hams/glutes primarily...without locking knees at the top 9maintaining continuous tension)
2- "Suicide Smith Squats" - MUST have a spotter - Feet all the way in front and hips high. Maximal tension throughout the movement and SLOW reps. This is very challenging exercise - so don't try it ALONE...unless you do want to kill yourself...
3- Sissy Squats on Hack Machine - hips high, on toes...(shoulder-hips-knees should be "in one line"). GREAT, GREAT exercise I do with all of my clients...
4- Partial Hacks (wide stance) - all the way down, half way up - with 3 seconds pause at the top (rather: half way up)
5- Leg Press (high angle, pushing with heels - using hamstrings rather than quads. Pausing 3 seconds on the bottom).
6+7 - superset Stiff Leg Dead Lift for glutes, than Stiff Leg Dead Lift for Hams

Total of 2 rotations.

Next:
1- Tuff-Stuff Hacks - all the way down- half way up
2- Smith Squats - wide stands, all the way down - half way up
3- Reverse Hack Squats (3 seconds pause on the bottom)
4- Reverse Hack Squat Stiff Leg Dead Lifts
5- Leg Press for hams
6+7 same as last rotation

And that's not everything...YET.

What is "Power" leg extension?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:17:50 PM
As you say, i try to be nice to you.
But, I think you are the person who are trying to make me a snake,dont you?

You can't make snake...you got to be one... ;D

Hey man - I love you... :-*...I was just taking advantage of your obvious mistake ;D ;D ;D
After all how you cut your legs but with a razor, knife...or a SAMURAII SWORD!!
That's it!

Musashi Myamoto must show you some tricks!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:20:17 PM
What is "Power" leg extension?

I used the term as: HEAVY LEG EXTENSIONS (knee extensions to be exact)...Simple, regular knee extensions - using AS MUCH WEIGHT AS POSSIBLE.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:21:22 PM
You can't make snake...you got to be one... ;D

Hey man - I love you... :-*...I was just taking advantage of your obvious mistake ;D ;D ;D
After all how you cut your legs but with a razor, knife...or a SAMURAII SWORD!!
That's it!

Musashi Myamoto must show you some tricks!
Haha. Ok. I will ask it to his ghost since he is a dead though.
Then Do you permit me to try your torture in summer or not!?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:23:19 PM
I used the term as: HEAVY LEG EXTENSIONS (knee extensions to be exact)...Simple, regular knee extensions - using AS MUCH WEIGHT AS POSSIBLE.
AH I understand you simply avoid the word "heavy" dont you? ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:25:44 PM
I was known for my small waist like Brian Buchanan when i was competing.Still my waist is small in spite of being fat now.

Yes, people were saying Brian and Kyomu had the smallest waist...I remember hearing that ;D...in my dream once (or twice)...
Wait - maybe was your dream...The same dream when you benched 450 (grams) and squatted 7 plates "ass to the grass style" (OK - using 10 pound plates...but who cares anyway?).

Mamba - I like you sense of humor...please tell me how besides Brian like waist you also had Ronnie like legs...Dorian's back...and MY ARMS... ;)

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:31:52 PM
Yes, people were saying Brian and Kyomu had the smallest waist...I remember hearing that ;D...in my dream once (or twice)...
Wait - maybe was your dream...The same dream when you benched 450 (grams) and squatted 7 plates "ass to the grass style" (OK - using 10 pound plates...but who cares anyway?).

Mamba - I like you sense of humor...please tell me how besides Brian like waist you also had Ronnie like legs...Dorian's back...and MY ARMS... ;)


You are so enjoying treating me like this huh?Got to payme ;D
I post my pic of 1995. I was small but Musclemag España wrote about me calling me x-flame.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:39:20 PM
I dont have scanner now and i took pic of the pic of 1995.
Bad resolution. But you can see my structure.I was small but Now my back is hunging big.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:43:18 PM
Yes, people were saying Brian and Kyomu had the smallest waist...I remember hearing that ;D...in my dream once (or twice)...
Wait - maybe was your dream...The same dream when you benched 450 (grams) and squatted 7 plates "ass to the grass style" (OK - using 10 pound plates...but who cares anyway?).

Mamba - I like you sense of humor...please tell me how besides Brian like waist you also had Ronnie like legs...Dorian's back...and MY ARMS... ;)


Hey dude,your arms are weak point though.....^ ^;
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:47:17 PM
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:48:41 PM
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Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:49:01 PM
Double bi back 1995 version of Green Mamba
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:49:53 PM
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Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:50:59 PM
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Wf is this????
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:52:57 PM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Petrucci on April 09, 2007, 12:54:17 PM
Milos, is that what you guys in States call a 'three-some'?

 ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 12:55:21 PM
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What a strange exercise? Is this sissy or what?
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 12:56:49 PM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:00:44 PM
Haha. Ok. I will ask it to his ghost since he is a dead though.
Then Do you permit me to try your torture in summer or not!?

I know about THE MOST FAMOUS SAMURAII...
I actually took a professional photo in studio in Tokyo - looking like Myamoto...


YES - I would love to torture you this summer, and every day of the year....You want to be tortured - come to see me ;).
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 01:03:42 PM
I know about THE MOST FAMOUS SAMURAII...
I actually took a professional photo in studio in Tokyo - looking like Myamoto...


YES - I would love to torture you this summer, and every day of the year....You want to be tortured - come to see me ;).
I wish i lived near from there. I would be a member though...
I can play trick on you every day also. ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:04:38 PM
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Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 09, 2007, 01:05:30 PM
milos i recognize your lovely wife...but who is the chick in white t shirt? yummy.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
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Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
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OK Enough!!Then what exercise is this? Sissy squat of milos style??
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:06:50 PM
Milamar is doing Sissy Squats on Hack.
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Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 01:18:30 PM
I dont know why but i remember something like movie exorcist.
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:19:49 PM
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Post by: The Squadfather on April 09, 2007, 01:21:57 PM
i've never wanted to be a hack squat back rest so bad in my life looking at these pictures. ;D
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Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 09, 2007, 01:22:44 PM
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Post by: The Squadfather on April 09, 2007, 01:26:26 PM
i would give Zhanna a tongue bath after 3 hrs. of cardio.
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Post by: kyomu on April 09, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
i would give Zhanna a tongue bath after 3 hrs. of cardio.
I luv your comment as usual dad!
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 09, 2007, 01:29:16 PM
i would give Zhanna a tongue bath after 3 hrs. of cardio.

would you stick a tongue in her sweaty ass?

i would.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 09, 2007, 01:31:07 PM
would you stick a tongue in her sweaty ass?

i would.
in a fuccking heartbeat.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 09, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
milos do you ever teach chicks to squat deep by putting a bottle under them?

and have em touch the bottle..to make sure they squat deep enough..

if not..you should try it   ;D

also a fat dildo can be used instead of bottle
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 09, 2007, 03:48:19 PM
The Giant set method produces at different stress and muscle response since uses slow and explosive contractions during the Giant set. The variation of exercise during the set causes significant more blood concentration that normal high volume trainning. For that reason the use of amino acids before and during the workout may futher stimulate an anabolic state. Milos explain it in more detail in the new FLEX magazine. Very interesting Theory.
Title: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on April 10, 2007, 09:33:39 AM
is it just me or does it seem like most of the guys on Team Milos don't have a very nice mid-section. Especially Hide and Silvio (who should have very nice mid-sections because they're technically not MASS-MONSTERS) and Luke Wood also has issue there, but he's not a "small" guy so i guess that's why.
Not a knock on them, they ARE great, but i can't help but to think is it a co-incedence or something else is going on?
Stubbs ans Scholz have ok mid-sections, but the 3 previously mentioned, raise the question...what's Milos feeding the team?



Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: jaejonna on April 10, 2007, 09:41:15 AM
Miloism Symptom #2..... :-\


(#1 would be smaller than average arms)
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 10, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
I think the guy who made Biggest improvement under Milos was badell.
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 10, 2007, 09:51:53 AM
No offence at all.
But he is actually in better condition in guest posing than his competition.
This is amazing.
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Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on April 10, 2007, 10:08:31 AM
I think the guy who made Biggest improvement under Milos was badell.

yeah and even he, at times had gut issues, but it was always on and off..
watch the fit show with milos and Silvio doing seated cable rows..... :-X
silvios gut is lumped over his lifing belt!
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 10, 2007, 10:15:06 AM
yeah and even he, at times had gut issues, but it was always on and off..
watch the fit show with milos and Silvio doing seated cable rows..... :-X
silvios gut is lumped over his lifing belt!
Hey I have known him several years and always had gut.
I agree with you guys about GH Gut,sulin Gut...etc.
But, basicaly if your legs get massive, your gut grow also.
I am a natural bber, but my gut is sticking out too.
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 10, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
Hey I have known him several years and always had gut.
I agree with you guys about GH Gut,sulin Gut...etc.
But, basicaly if your legs get massive, your gut grow also.
I am a natural bber, but my gut is sticking out too.

no offence but from your pics you look to be holding bodyfat as opposed to having a large gut
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 10, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
milos do you ever teach chicks to squat deep by putting a bottle under them?

and have em touch the bottle..to make sure they squat deep enough..

if not..you should try it   ;D

also a fat dildo can be used instead of bottle

You feel good about those comments?

How about if you come to my gym and I have you demonstrate...You can even pick the bottle that fits your "behind" (your favorite one...which you keep in your closet ;))
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 10, 2007, 10:54:09 AM
i would give Zhanna a tongue bath after 3 hrs. of cardio.

Squad, if Zhanna is your girlfriend or wife - would you like comments like this?
It is disrespectful to both her and "Evil Angel"...and even I am offended as her friend...

Common guys - bring some class to your lives - I swear you might just like it.
Joking is perfectly OK...but there are some limits you should consider.

Example - don't write anything you wouldn't be able to say to person's face...That would be a very good start.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: ZHANNA ROTAR on April 10, 2007, 12:53:06 PM

Squad, if Zhanna is your girlfriend or wife - would you like comments like this?
It is disrespectful to both her and "Evil Angel"...and even I am offended as her friend...

Common guys - bring some class to your lives - I swear you might just like it.
Joking is perfectly OK...but there are some limits you should consider.

Example - don't write anything you wouldn't be able to say to person's face...That would be a very good start.


;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: The Squadfather on April 10, 2007, 03:48:16 PM
Squad, if Zhanna is your girlfriend or wife - would you like comments like this?
It is disrespectful to both her and "Evil Angel"...and even I am offended as her friend...

Common guys - bring some class to your lives - I swear you might just like it.
Joking is perfectly OK...but there are some limits you should consider.

Example - don't write anything you wouldn't be able to say to person's face...That would be a very good start.
i didn't know Evil Angel was her boyfriend or husband, sorry man.......your girl is still hot though. ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 10, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
i didn't know Evil Angel was her boyfriend or husband, sorry man.......your girl is still hot though. ;D

Saying that girl is hot - is completely OK...other comments however are out of line...
Nice of you to apologize.
 ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 10, 2007, 04:01:18 PM
The Giant set method produces at different stress and muscle response since uses slow and explosive contractions during the Giant set. The variation of exercise during the set causes significant more blood concentration that normal high volume trainning. For that reason the use of amino acids before and during the workout may futher stimulate an anabolic state. Milos explain it in more detail in the new FLEX magazine. Very interesting Theory.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 10, 2007, 05:14:07 PM
Common guys - bring some class to your lives - I swear you might just like it.
Joking is perfectly OK...but there are some limits you should consider.

Example - don't write anything you wouldn't be able to say to person's face...That would be a very good start.
Aren't you the guy always arguing with judges and showing them no respect? Practice what you preach brother you're sounding like that blowhard Sean Ray these days.

Zhanna, nice rack.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 10, 2007, 05:30:14 PM
Aren't you the guy always arguing with judges and showing them no respect? Practice what you preach brother you're sounding like that blowhard Sean Ray these days.

Zhanna, nice rack.

I think that arguing with judges is fundamental to the sport. Judges in any Sport make mistakes(judging in any sport is subjective). Very few people love the sport as much as Milos, his arguments only are intended to improve the sport and the life of the competitors. Chic, Milos have voice their opions regarding the Iromen Judges...The Judges agree and increase the call out for next week Sacramento Show.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 10, 2007, 10:52:52 PM
Aren't you the guy always arguing with judges and showing them no respect? Practice what you preach brother you're sounding like that blowhard Sean Ray these days.

Zhanna, nice rack.


Hmmmm, I swear I answered this question few hours ago...Where did my post go?
Anyway - I complain about LACK OF COMPARISONS - and that's something I am complaining for over a decade...
You cannot compete if you don't get compared - as simple as that.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Ron on April 10, 2007, 11:08:22 PM

Milos has a point in his concerns of the lack of comparisons in various competitors.  A bodybuilder that places 4th should be compared to a bodybuilder that places 6th, etc...

However, arguing with the judges or debating right in front of the audience instead of somewhere discreet was the problem. 
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 11, 2007, 09:18:22 AM
The Use of more Comparison was also Fundamental in The Arnold. Initialilly Heath was a lock for 3th. With the additional comparison Freeman and Gustavo move up.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 11, 2007, 12:10:53 PM
Milos has a point in his concerns of the lack of comparisons in various competitors.  A bodybuilder that places 4th should be compared to a bodybuilder that places 6th, etc...

However, arguing with the judges or debating right in front of the audience instead of somewhere discreet was the problem. 

There is always some problem...Put it in writting...or something like that...And than what?
Example of the Ironman this year is the freshest one and you are probably referring to this.

After Bob officially announced at athletes meeting last year that Mr. Jim Manion approved the motion started by the athletes that we request MORE COMPARISONS - and Ironman was the very first show of the year...and instead of MORE comparisons - it was LESS.

I saw Bob talking to the judges and I approached HIM and not the judges...to ask WHAT HAPPENED?
As conversation was going on - off course I get involved as well - not complaining about results but simply and only for the lack of comparisons...

It was equivalent to boxing match where one boxer swing-ed and missed and referee stop the fight suggesting that had that punch landed it would have devastated the other boxer...(well - that's my interpretation of what happened ;D).

First show of the year, new rules (1st round changed...) and supposed to be MORE COMPARISONS - possibly meant MORE EXCITMENT for everyone.
Keep in mind that some athletes (foreigners) that have to pay for all th etraveling expenses are very limited to number of shows they can enter...
They put their life savings to make the trip (as well as some of their fans, family...etc) just to see them standing in the lineup as a "stage decoration" without the chance to actually compete.

And WHY?

Don't we all want MORE COMPARISONS?
Athletes who are not afraid of comparisons, fans who wold love to see their favorites FIGHT for their placings, magazines, photographers, makers of the video footage...etc...etc..etc ...

There was MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME...and certainly there was unquestionably a need for several more comparisons.

Some people (don't need to mention at this time) concluded - that was the worst judging in history of our sport...and we all just need to be quiet?
We need to do it (complain) - differently?

It doesn't need to be a fight or the argument...it should be just a friendly conversation...If someone makes mistake and it was pointed out - mistake could be corrected...and I was hoping that at the Ironman - judges could still call the guys to come back on stage - and compare them some more...or even have additional evening comparisons...(and that is something I personally suggested to Mr. Manion - who certainly wasn't too happy hearing about my complaint...but he didn't hear it the real story...)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: KGG on April 11, 2007, 02:07:36 PM
milos  Will name his new baby `giants sets` 
loooool...


I  have  some questions  for  you  Mr  `MIND`
why  you  never  answer  fans  questions  in  your  Bord do you   need  them  to  leave  you  there  credit  card  number  or  what???? 

one more questions.
why  are  you  rude  to  your  members  and never  said  hello  or  smile  to  them  you only  say  hello  to  `PROS` and  to people  who buy supplements  from your store.
i guess  you  never  attend  any  basic business  lectures because  smart  and  successful  baseness  man  would  always smile and  welcome his customers thats  the  very  basic business leasons.

thank  you.

KEVEN .
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 11, 2007, 03:17:10 PM
milos  Will name his new baby `giants sets` 
loooool...


I  have  some questions  for  you  Mr  `MIND`
why  you  never  answer  fans  questions  in  your  Bord do you   need  them  to  leave  you  there  credit  card  number  or  what???? 

one more questions.
why  are  you  rude  to  your  members  and never  said  hello  or  smile  to  them  you only  say  hello  to  `PROS` and  to people  who buy supplements  from your store.
i guess  you  never  attend  any  basic business  lectures because  smart  and  successful  baseness  man  would  always smile and  welcome his customers thats  the  very  basic business leasons.

thank  you.

KEVEN .

What kind of World do you live in??? or What kind of crack are you using??? Milos is one of the most giving person in the industry. If Milos has any problems is that he is too giving to people. Milos has helped people for hours and hours without eating or thinking about himself. He is offering a FREE seminar to ALL GET BIG MEMBERS. Please educate yourself before making such a IDIOTIC statement.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on April 11, 2007, 04:52:03 PM
What kind of World do you live in??? or What kind of crack are you using??? Milos is one of the most giving person in the industry. If Milos has any problems is that he is too giving to people. Milos has helped people for hours and hours without eating or thinking about himself. He is offering a FREE seminar to ALL GET BIG MEMBERS. Please educate yourself before making such a IDIOTIC statement.
i agree, Milos does more for people than probably every other pro combined.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: KGG on April 11, 2007, 04:54:39 PM
What kind of World do you live in??? or What kind of crack are you using??? Milos is one of the most giving person in the industry. If Milos has any problems is that he is too giving to people. Milos has helped people for hours and hours without eating or thinking about himself. He is offering a FREE seminar to ALL GET BIG MEMBERS. Please educate yourself before making such a IDIOTIC statement.



i`m  using the  same  crack  you  smoke.
i`m  sure  you  are  one  of  his  close  friends  i`m 100%  sure.
man  my friend  used  to  train  there  and  i  have  couple  of  friends  still  go  there and  say  the  same  thing   one  of them  been  asked  once  to  get of  the  machines  because  one  of  the pro  losers  wants  to  use  it..so  please  shut  the  hell  up  you  know  nothing  and  if  u have  question please  call  1800-kiss -my-ass
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Dballn247 on April 11, 2007, 04:54:54 PM
i agree, Milos does more for people than probably every other pro combined.

Word, Milos is the coolest thread on the board.  Most of the other pro's only come on the board when they've got some product to hock.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Stavios on April 11, 2007, 04:55:15 PM
i agree, Milos does more for people than probably every other pro combined.

Milos's training got my arms to 17 inches after they have been stock to 16 1/2 for months !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on April 11, 2007, 04:58:51 PM
Milos's training got my arms to 17 inches after they have been stock to 16 1/2 for months !!!!!!!!!!
dude i did a modified version of Milos's training for biceps on Monday and my biceps are so sore i can barely move them.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Debussey on April 11, 2007, 05:01:24 PM
Milos's training got my arms to 17 inches after they have been stock to 16 1/2 for months !!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHA

That is one funny typo.  ;D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Stavios on April 11, 2007, 05:07:58 PM
dude i did a modified version of Milos's training for biceps on Monday and my biceps are so sore i can barely move them.

I think the most important thing in Milos's training it to really contract and keep a constant tension on the muscle

what did you do for your biceps ?

here is what I did last workout:

-concentration curl, 4 sets of 15  to warm up the muscle ( crazy fucking pump with that exercise when done correctly)

Giant set: 6 times each, 10 reps

-incline dumbell curls  (:o :o :o)
-wide grip barbell curl
-close grip barbell curl
-hammer curl
-reverse grip curl


then I finished with 4 set of 3 drop sets on the machine curl


that's it for the biceps, I was crazy sore !!


Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 11, 2007, 05:08:14 PM


i`m  using the  same  crack  you  smoke.
i`m  sure  you  are  one  of  his  close  friends  i`m 100%  sure.
man  my friend  used  to  train  there  and  i  have  couple  of  friends  still  go  there and  say  the  same  thing   one  of them  been  asked  once  to  get of  the  machines  because  one  of  the pro  losers  wants  to  use  it..so  please  shut  the  hell  up  you  know  nothing  and  if  u have  question please  call  1800-kiss -my-ass

Milos is a Class act. He would never speak like that to one of his members. Your friend did not tell you the story correctly. You are just making yourself look stupid by saying my friend said so. ....PLEASE.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Stavios on April 11, 2007, 05:08:36 PM
HAHAHA

That is one funny typo.  ;D

actually I tought it was spelled this way  :-[
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: The Squadfather on April 11, 2007, 05:10:39 PM
I think the most important thing in Milos's training it to really contract and keep a constant tension on the muscle

what did you do for your biceps ?

here is what I did last workout:

-concentration curl, 4 sets of 15  to warm up the muscle ( crazy fucking pump with that exercise when done correctly)

Giant set: 6 times each, 10 reps

-incline dumbell curls  (:o :o :o)
-wide grip barbell curl
-close grip barbell curl
-hammer curl
-reverse grip curl


then I finished with 4 set of 3 drop sets on the machine curl


that's it for the biceps, I was crazy sore !!



i did only 4 exercises for the giant sets, one arm db preachers/barbell curl/alternate db curl/machine preacher curl, 10 reps each, 3 times.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2007, 06:04:06 PM


i`m  using the  same  crack  you  smoke.
i`m  sure  you  are  one  of  his  close  friends  i`m 100%  sure.
man  my friend  used  to  train  there  and  i  have  couple  of  friends  still  go  there and  say  the  same  thing   one  of them  been  asked  once  to  get of  the  machines  because  one  of  the pro  losers  wants  to  use  it..so  please  shut  the  hell  up  you  know  nothing  and  if  u have  question please  call  1800-kiss -my-ass
I am in Koloseum 4 days a week and I can honestly say your 'friend' is a fucking liar. Milos nor anyone else has ever asked anyone within my ear shot to move from any piece of equipment. They may ask how long or how many more sets, but so do I if you're in the way. You're barking up the wrong tree, go away and make shit up somewhere else.


Stavios congrats on your new gains. :D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 11, 2007, 06:20:39 PM
brutal 80lb. preachers and 135lb. shoulder presses.

I cant believe you have the audacity to attempt to make fun of Milos. You are a waste of human flesh, you fat piece of worthless trailer trash. The bodybuilding community has no place for scum like you.

Since the inception of society, responsible individuals have had to bare the burden of trash like you. Its a shame the sport is polluted with such filth as you---squad-trash
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
I cant believe you have the audacity to attempt to make fun of Milos. You are a waste of human flesh, you fat piece of worthless trailer trash. The bodybuilding community has no place for scum like you.

Since the inception of society, responsible individuals have had to bare the burden of trash like you. Its a shame the sport is polluted with such filth as you---squad-trash
you're a little late bjbf, it's over now, they hugged and made up :-*
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Big N on April 11, 2007, 06:28:02 PM
How old is Milos?


lol dude that's the same exact thing that i was thinking
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2007, 08:30:08 PM
Really? What times? I'm curious about any Getbigger's that go there...
I've pm'd you before.....
pretty early compared to you, between 4:45-5:00 until we're done. depends on the body parts. haven't tried the giant sets, but I have done 2-3 sets back to back and it always seems intense. I can't imagine the burn of doing so many sets in a row. I'll try it some day.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 11, 2007, 08:36:24 PM
Legs are still sore from the Saturday workout....Using this new Method has also significantly increase my metabolic rate.
 8)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
oh yeah, duh. haha...sorry

Actually I'm working out with the others now  ;D
I graduated. heh.

So far we've worked out at 6pm and 3pm. Tomorrow it's at 3pm again.

yeah I won't be in until Mon. Dentist doesn't want me to lift anything "heavy" ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Luke Wood on April 11, 2007, 09:12:54 PM
milos  Will name his new baby `giants sets` 
loooool...


I  have  some questions  for  you  Mr  `MIND`
why  you  never  answer  fans  questions  in  your  Bord do you   need  them  to  leave  you  there  credit  card  number  or  what???? 

one more questions.
why  are  you  rude  to  your  members  and never  said  hello  or  smile  to  them  you only  say  hello  to  `PROS` and  to people  who buy supplements  from your store.
i guess  you  never  attend  any  basic business  lectures because  smart  and  successful  baseness  man  would  always smile and  welcome his customers thats  the  very  basic business leasons.

thank  you.

KEVEN .

I have never seen or heard Milos say such a thing!! his members are his bread and butter!!! why would he do that?? I have spend alot of time in his gym the last 2 years and i can tell you if a pro leaves his weights or any type of mess in the gym Milos is quick to them as we are suppose to be setting an example for everyone who trains there, but as far as telling some members to get off a machines because a pro wants to use thar machine, thats just nonsence!!!! You say you know of people who this has happen to right?? so since you making this statement, tell us who they are??
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 12, 2007, 06:09:39 AM
no offence but from your pics you look to be holding bodyfat as opposed to having a large gut
Dont worry,very soon you will know that its not because of bodyfat(Cus i will post my pic veryvery soon).
Just my gut stick out when it is loose. It doesnt happen before no matter how fat i got in off-season.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 12, 2007, 07:15:50 AM
milos do your female clients pay you money or do they offer something else?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 12, 2007, 09:36:20 AM
milos do your female clients pay you money or do they offer something else?

What should be said about a person that call themselves slaveboy... You are a sad little boy.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 12, 2007, 09:45:13 AM
What should be said about a person that call themselves slaveboy... You are a sad little boy.

do your gay benefactors pay milos' 500 dollar per hour fee?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 12, 2007, 09:56:26 AM
do your gay benefactors pay milos' 500 dollar per hour fee?

I real Man does not wright what he can not tell others in the face....
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 12, 2007, 10:12:54 AM
I real Man does not wright what he can not tell others in the face....
You dont need to be a real man to keep a secret.
Its a common sence.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 12, 2007, 10:30:42 AM
You dont need to be a real man to keep a secret.
Its a common sence.

Keep a Secret....??? Ofending someone over that internet is pathetic to say the least ....It shows to ultimate coward in you....If you don't like someone then tell them what you think on their face.

It is common sense.....what???
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 12, 2007, 10:32:26 AM
Keep a Secret....??? Ofending someone over that internet is pathetic to say the least ....It shows to ultimate coward in you....If you don't like someone then tell them what you think on their face.

It is common sense.....what???
Oh sorry bro. I just didnt understand the situation.
I apologize to you.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 12, 2007, 10:41:35 AM
Oh sorry bro. I just didnt understand the situation.
I apologize to you.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: slaveboy1980 on April 12, 2007, 04:00:51 PM
Keep a Secret....??? Ofending someone over that internet is pathetic to say the least ....It shows to ultimate coward in you....If you don't like someone then tell them what you think on their face.

It is common sense.....what???

ok ill fly down to california tomorrow to say : i dont like you. then ill fly straight back to where i came from.  ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 12, 2007, 04:23:46 PM
ok ill fly down to california tomorrow to say : i dont like you. then ill fly straight back to where i came from.  ;D

Well you may stay I little longer that you plan in California if you come. ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: pumpster on April 12, 2007, 04:39:30 PM
What should be said about a person that call themselves slaveboy... You are a sad little boy.

No kidding. Do you mean his evident ADD & inability to focus on the thread, or the fact that he thinks he's  cracking everyone else up as much as himself?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: phyxsius on April 12, 2007, 06:01:50 PM
Milos is all class
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 02:47:30 AM
no offence but from your pics you look to be holding bodyfat as opposed to having a large gut
OK. I am fat. But not like you imagine.
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: PORKY on April 13, 2007, 04:49:19 AM
 :o :o
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: TheAnimal on April 13, 2007, 04:51:50 AM
Kyomu delete that photo quick man

Otherwise you will regret it seriously...
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 04:54:43 AM
Kyomu delete that photo quick man

Otherwise you will regret it seriously...
no its ok. my body change a lot in short time.
enjoy my fat pic ;)
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: BigNBloated on April 13, 2007, 06:08:21 AM
Something that may be overlooked is how these guys train abs, their abs are massive in size and are going to naturally stick out because of the muscle behind them.
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: dawakaman on April 13, 2007, 07:32:02 AM
yeah and even he, at times had gut issues, but it was always on and off..
watch the fit show with milos and Silvio doing seated cable rows..... :-X
silvios gut is lumped over his lifing belt!

Man, just LOOK at this:

Peace
D

Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Slintowin on April 13, 2007, 07:33:13 AM
Funny Milos is one of the greatest trainers no doubt about it but its like Rambo they just chip away the hard edges most people are just changing they allready have it just need help bringing it out Great training milos. ;)
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on April 13, 2007, 07:33:52 AM
Man, just LOOK at this:

Peace
D



i freakin told you!!! that;s the exact scene i saw!!  :-X  :-X
thats gonna be his downfall...
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 13, 2007, 10:05:16 AM


     
   

Quote from: Bflex on Today at 05:43:02 AM
they all look the same: Mustafa, Silvio, Gustavo, Hide, ... all milos guys. they balloon up with extreme vascularity and sacrifice their midsection




  I keep hearing this nonsense all the time...and must point out that waistlines of my athletes change THE LEAST...everything else changes much more dramatically.
Take for example any textbook physiology and see men at their 20's, 30's, 40's....etc...and you'll see normal body transformation through ages...with everincreasing waistlines...

I claim that my athletes hardly increased their waistlines with my program...However, as their body weight increased so dramatically - sometimes it might appear that way.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 13, 2007, 10:08:50 AM
Milos's training got my arms to 17 inches after they have been stock to 16 1/2 for months !!!!!!!!!!

Half more - and you'll have same as me ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 13, 2007, 10:16:30 AM


i`m  using the  same  crack  you  smoke.
i`m  sure  you  are  one  of  his  close  friends  i`m 100%  sure.
man  my friend  used  to  train  there  and  i  have  couple  of  friends  still  go  there and  say  the  same  thing   one  of them  been  asked  once  to  get of  the  machines  because  one  of  the pro  losers  wants  to  use  it..so  please  shut  the  hell  up  you  know  nothing  and  if  u have  question please  call  1800-kiss -my-ass

 ::)
The moment I tell someone (or allow ANYONE ELSE to request from my member) to get off the machine - I will close the gym...

When you make up the story you should use your head...and at least say something REMOTELY possible...as you would get attention of at least few sceptics...But saying something in line of what you did is as good as if you said that I train naked...


Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Bflex on April 13, 2007, 10:16:58 AM
milos it wasnt meant as an attack but hey- i look at these pictures and they do show these guts!? sure they look big and muscular and all but they all look the same. good but the same.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 10:29:07 AM
Milos,

When the Greatest workout Ever continue?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
Milos,

When the Greatest workout Ever continue?
Evil,How much do you weight in here(now)?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=139725.0;attach=157786;image)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 10:36:37 AM
230Lb.....and still growing ;D
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 10:38:25 AM
230Lb.....and still growing ;D
If you prepare for contest from today,How much do you have to go down to be in contest shape?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 10:40:24 AM
If you prepare for contest from today,How much do you have to go down to be in contest shape?

About 30lb should do it. Same condition that last year about 10lb heavier
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 10:41:32 AM
About 30lb should do it. Same condition that last year about 10lb heavier
So,do you want to compete in heavy weight category next time?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 10:46:05 AM
So,do you want to compete in heavy weight category next time?

No I am sure I can take off an extra 2-4lb and weight in at 198lb but be on stage at about 202-204lb.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 10:49:52 AM
No I am sure I can take off an extra 2-4lb and weight in at 198lb but be on stage at about 202-204lb.
That extra 2-4lbs is because of the water you get rid of or crab depleation,which?

Thanx very much. Since your body weight is near from me,it would be good study.
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
milos it wasnt meant as an attack but hey- i look at these pictures and they do show these guts!? sure they look big and muscular and all but they all look the same. good but the same.

You can not physiologically increase a person wheight without affecting indirectly all areas of the body. Obvious you can see evident gain on legs,arms, back ....but an indirect increase in the abdomina areal is a consequence of any increase of weight.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 13, 2007, 10:56:27 AM
Milos,

When the Greatest workout Ever continue?

Anytime...I told you and Zhanna to give me 24 hour notice...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: War-Horse on April 13, 2007, 11:53:28 AM
Ive worked out in Kolosium gym, never seen any pros treat anyone arrogantly.

Most of them wouldnt have the energy to breathe after a workout form milos.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 13, 2007, 12:08:57 PM
The pros I train interact with members - as we are all ONE family...
Now, even inside a family you have some kids that are not always happy - and off course I have few of those that just don't like pros or me...because of our pro status...But, once I find out who they are - I invite them to join us, get to know us and soon enough - they change...FOR BETTER!

That's our philosophy. MAKE FRIENDS NOT THE ENEMIES!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Max_Rep on April 13, 2007, 12:14:58 PM
Ive worked out in Kolosium gym, never seen any pros treat anyone arrogantly.

Most of them wouldnt have the energy to breathe after a workout form milos.

I've trained with many Pro's, interviewed about 25 of them and met many of them and with ONE exception; I always found them to be very friendly and approachable (so long as it wasn't in the middle of a set or workout). 
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 01:05:27 PM
That extra 2-4lbs is because of the water you get rid of or crab depleation,which?

Thanx very much. Since your body weight is near from me,it would be good study.


At the point you really don't have any more fat to lose. That reduction will probally come form water levels on that cells.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
At the point you really don't have any more fat to lose. That reduction will probally come form water levels on that cells.
Thanx, then how can you up your bodyweight after?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 01:40:12 PM
Thanx, then how can you up your bodyweight after?



Carb up process. Normally couple days. Carbs may be from 400g to 1000g depending of the individual
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 01:45:56 PM


Carb up process. Normally couple days. Carbs may be from 400g to 1000g depending of the individual
In carb depleation phase, do you increase the dose of amino acid? If you do,what kind of amino acid do you take?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 13, 2007, 02:01:58 PM
And also. Of course,you follow the way of Dorian is much easier.

Its like Marathon runner try to run 100m.
But 100mdash athlete cant do marathon.Apart from his physic,he dont know the tecnic of marathon running.

this is an excellent point.

if milos is a good trainer he would know that it's impossible to really sprint a marathon or even a quarter marathon.

you can train extremely hard or long, but you can't do both.

if think you can you're deluding yourself.

the main benefits you from this type of routine is massive pumps (could lead to capillary growth) + less inujuries
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 02:04:56 PM
In that term, do you increase the dose of amino acid? If you do,what kind of amino acid do you take?

During the carb up process the absence of water is fundamental to its sucess. Even though several coaches use different methods the use of supplementation is very rare since you can not add water to the equation. The use of protein in food form is common though.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 02:09:56 PM
During the carb up process the absence of water is fundamental to its sucess. Even though several coaches use different methods the use of supplementation is very rare since you can not add water to the equation. The use of protein in food form is common though.
Then,how can you road the water into your muscle if you emphasize the absence of water(No drinking or drinking less)?
Are you suggesting that the water contained in rice is enough to fill the muscle up?
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 02:11:52 PM
this is an excellent point.

if milos is a good trainer he would know that it's impossible to really sprint a marathon or even a quarter marathon.

you can train extremely hard or long, but you can't do both.

if think you can you're deluding yourself.

the main benefits you from this type of routine is massive pumps (could lead to capillary growth) + less inujuries

The whole principle of Milos philosophy is to overcame standard limitations. I am extremely familiar with the HIT principles and you are correct it states the impossibility to increase intensity with increase of volume. Milos has a strong believe in the power and capacity of the mind. Milos workouts are nearly impossible....I would say nearly simply because he expects you to finish it.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 13, 2007, 02:14:28 PM
Then,how can you road the water into your muscle if you emphasize the absence of water(No drinking or drinking less)?
Are you suggesting that the water contained in rice is enough to fill the muscle up?

The increase of carb and lack of water will obligate the body to pull all the subcutaneas water into the cells.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: kyomu on April 13, 2007, 02:16:27 PM
The increase of carb and lack of water will obligate the body to pull all the subcutaneas water into the cells.
Huh! Thank you very much!!
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Stavios on April 13, 2007, 03:19:01 PM
Half more - and you'll have same as me ;)

haha  ;D
more like 3 and a half more  ;D

but hey we can't all be 230 lbs onstage like Trew Brewer at 19 years old  :)
Title: Re: a team Milos issue?
Post by: The.Giant on April 14, 2007, 01:44:14 AM
OK. I am fat. But not like you imagine.


that's fucking disturbing.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 14, 2007, 09:07:41 AM
haha  ;D
more like 3 and a half more  ;D

but hey we can't all be 230 lbs onstage like Trew Brewer at 19 years old  :)

Well, to be honest - cool 4 inches more...but don't tell anyone...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 14, 2007, 09:16:45 AM
The whole principle of Milos philosophy is to overcame standard limitations. I am extremely familiar with the HIT principles and you are correct it states the impossibility to increase intensity with increase of volume. Milos has a strong believe in the power and capacity of the mind. Milos workouts are nearly impossible....I would say nearly simply because he expects you to finish it.

Well - yes...
You must finish...if you have it in your heart...and your mind...
You just can't accept the thought that you are going to quit...
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 14, 2007, 10:43:38 AM
Well - yes...
You must finish...if you have it in your heart...and your mind...
You just can't accept the thought that you are going to quit...

there is NO WAY anyone is going to be able to go at flat out intensity for an entire giant set as you prescribe. sorry, not happening, unless they have no idea what intensity is.

put it this way, if your trainee makes it through giant set after giant set, all it proves is that they didn't work hard enough at the start.

or perhaps, if the fastest 100 metre runner can run it in 9.7 seconds, why can't he run 800 metres in under 80 seconds? btw, look who's got more development - shorter distance = more muscle. ;)

and i'm only talking sprints. you're effectively saying that he should be able to run flat out for hours, which, for a highly paid trainer to say is stupid beyond belief.

you can train hard or long. you can't do both, which is basically why you have to use the pink dumbells. ;D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: YoungBlood on April 14, 2007, 11:01:53 AM
That's our philosophy. MAKE FRIENDS NOT THE ENEMIES!


Thought your philosophy was "Hic Rhodos, Hic Salta?"

;) ;D
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 14, 2007, 11:16:22 AM
there is NO WAY anyone is going to be able to go at flat out intensity for an entire giant set as you prescribe. sorry, not happening, unless they have no idea what intensity is.

put it this way, if your trainee makes it through giant set after giant set, all it proves is that they didn't work hard enough at the start.

or perhaps, if the fastest 100 metre runner can run it in 9.7 seconds, why can't he run 800 metres in under 80 seconds? btw, look who's got more development - shorter distance = more muscle. ;)

and i'm only talking sprints. you're effectively saying that he should be able to run flat out for hours, which, for a highly paid trainer to say is stupid beyond belief.

you can train hard or long. you can't do both, which is basically why you have to use the pink dumbells. ;D

The HIT method does not states that you can not continue to train in high intensy longer, but that would be contra productive since the stimulus to the muscle has already been achieved. Obviously Milos philosophy encorages further stimulus to the muscle. Several Limitations are humans own creations. Things that we thought were impossible medically, sciencificaly, physically....and so on have been long overcome. Your whole thought is based on a Theory that you can not run long and intense in the same time. But Remember these are only Mentzer's Theories not Facts.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 14, 2007, 11:59:16 AM
there is NO WAY anyone is going to be able to go at flat out intensity for an entire giant set as you prescribe. sorry, not happening, unless they have no idea what intensity is.

put it this way, if your trainee makes it through giant set after giant set, all it proves is that they didn't work hard enough at the start.

or perhaps, if the fastest 100 metre runner can run it in 9.7 seconds, why can't he run 800 metres in under 80 seconds? btw, look who's got more development - shorter distance = more muscle. ;)

and i'm only talking sprints. you're effectively saying that he should be able to run flat out for hours, which, for a highly paid trainer to say is stupid beyond belief.

you can train hard or long. you can't do both, which is basically why you have to use the pink dumbells. ;D

 ::)

I said - accept no limitations as a limitation...and therefore for weak minded (LIKE YOU  ;) - who accepts limitations) - I have nothing more to say...

Athletes can become SUPER ATHLETES by accepting higher demands...
If you star thinking about what is possible you are defeating yourself from the very beginning...

And YES - many are able to endure incredible intensity set, after set...IF they condition themselves and train this way...

What many of you fail to realize is - this kind of training is just extension of straight sets...
Do your best possible in your first exercise - and than try to immediately go to one more exercise of your choice - and do your best in that one...

Next time do the same - and you'l probably be able to do little better...

After few workouts add 3rd exercise....and do the same...

After you improve your stamina and strength you'll realize how effective this kind of workout really is...

Please, don't judge it just by assuming...give it the honest try and than give me your comments.

At my seminar on May 19th (everyone IS welcome) - I will demonstrate few giant sets...and probably ask for volunteers.

Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: MinuteMan on April 14, 2007, 12:01:47 PM
::)

I said - accept no limitations as a limitation...and therefore for weak minded (LIKE YOU  ;) - who accepts limitations) - I have nothing more to say...

Athletes can become SUPER ATHLETES by accepting higher demands...
If you star thinking about what is possible you are defeating yourself from the very beginning...

And YES - many are able to endure incredible intensity set, after set...IF they condition themselves and train this way...

What many of you fail to realize is - this kind of training is just extension of straight sets...
Do your best possible in your first exercise - and than try to immediately go to one more exercise of your choice - and do your best in that one...

Next time do the same - and you'l probably be able to do little better...

After few workouts add 3rd exercise....and do the same...

After you improve your stamina and strength you'll realize how effective this kind of workout really is...

Please, don't judge it just by assuming...give it the honest try and than give me your comments.

At my seminar on May 19th (everyone IS welcome) - I will demonstrate few giant sets...and probably ask for volunteers.



You my Bosnian friend are a joke, that is nothing without drugs.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 14, 2007, 12:02:08 PM

Thought your philosophy was "Hic Rhodos, Hic Salta?"

;) ;D

I have many philosophies ;D...and one of my favorite one - is: Hic Rhodos, Hic Salta...but also MAKE FRIENDS AND NOT THE ENEMIES..
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 14, 2007, 12:03:39 PM
You my Bosnian friend are a joke, that is nothing without drugs.

You my Chinese friend are joke...there is LIFE without drugs - for people who chose to live that way.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: MinuteMan on April 14, 2007, 12:07:25 PM
You my Chinese friend are joke...there is LIFE without drugs - for people who chose to live that way.

you are not one them, this demonstrates your weakness,

the aryan master race does not need drugs to prosper.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 14, 2007, 12:22:07 PM
you are not one them, this demonstrates your weakness,

the aryan master race does not need drugs to prosper.

Milos is a Legend in the fitness industry. Your ignorance is repugnant. The fact that you think that Drug make a champion is a result of YOUR weakness.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: MinuteMan on April 14, 2007, 12:27:01 PM
Milos is a Legend in the fitness industry. Your ignorance is repugnant. The fact that you think that Drug make a champion is a result of YOUR weakness.

He has competed 73 times, how many shows out of those has he won?

thats speaks for itself. ::)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 14, 2007, 12:54:15 PM
He has competed 73 times, how many shows out of those has he won?

thats speaks for itself. ::)

Your are further demonstrating your level of ignorance. That fact he compete 73 time in the HIGHEST LEVEL is an absolute amazing accomplishment. That is not your or mine opinion. This is a Fact Milos is one of the most respected Pro's ever. No only He had one of the most aesthetically pleasing Bodies. He is extremely respected for his knowledge. He has train and helped hundreds of Pro's. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: kyomu on April 14, 2007, 12:57:40 PM
Your are further demonstrating your level of ignorance. That fact he compete 73 time in the HIGHEST LEVEL is an absolute amazing accomplishment. That is not your or mine opinion. This is a Fact Milos is one of the most respected Pro's ever. No only He had one of the most aesthetically pleasing Bodies. He is extremely respected for his knowledge. He has train and helped hundreds of Pro's. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF
I think more than the number of the show he appeared,the number of Olympia appearance is more important.
And the guy has plenty of Olympia apperances.
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 15, 2007, 07:09:32 AM
::)

I said - accept no limitations as a limitation...and therefore for weak minded (LIKE YOU  ;) - who accepts limitations) - I have nothing more to say...

Athletes can become SUPER ATHLETES by accepting higher demands...
If you star thinking about what is possible you are defeating yourself from the very beginning...

And YES - many are able to endure incredible intensity set, after set...IF they condition themselves and train this way...

What many of you fail to realize is - this kind of training is just extension of straight sets...
Do your best possible in your first exercise - and than try to immediately go to one more exercise of your choice - and do your best in that one...

Next time do the same - and you'l probably be able to do little better...

After few workouts add 3rd exercise....and do the same...

After you improve your stamina and strength you'll realize how effective this kind of workout really is...

Please, don't judge it just by assuming...give it the honest try and than give me your comments.

At my seminar on May 19th (everyone IS welcome) - I will demonstrate few giant sets...and probably ask for volunteers.



i'm not saying giant sets are not hard work.

they tell me a marathon's hard work too, but that activity is proven to be catabolic.

you tell me that i shouldn't 'assume', but that's exactly what you do re: that i am 'weak minded' even though you know nothing about me. your arrogance blinds you from your hypocrisy.

you appear to either misunderstand my point or you're disingenuously dismissing it.

my point is not a theory or a hypothesis and it certainly has nothing to do with HIT (which is arthur jones' theory btw, not mentzer), it is an absolute fact.

the higher the intensity ie the higher the work output, the briefer the duration.

milos, if your ridiculous theory was correct:

brian siders would be performing 10 super slow reps with 600lbs in the bench press as only the 1st movement in an extended giant set. ::)

donovan bailey would be slicing at least 70% from the world record in the marathon event.

linemen would be getting paid billions to run the whole game flat out.

milos sarcev would be getting paid billions as the greatest revolutionary coach of all time. the man to actually defy every known FACT of kinesiology, human biology and physiology.

i appreciate that you actually have the balls to debate the issue, but you can not win this one and i believe you know it.

had you said that your training style was best for bbing performance it would be more difficult for me to refute, because:

1. you are far more accomplished than i will ever be in that area.

2. and (more importantly), the exact cause - effect relationship between exercise and anabolism has never actually been identified.




 
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: YoungBlood on April 15, 2007, 10:32:01 AM
He has competed 73 times, how many shows out of those has he won?

thats speaks for itself. ::)

And you have competed in the IFBB how many times? ::)

How many shows have you won? ::)

That, speaks for itself. ;)
Title: Re: The Greatest Workout EVER with Milos Sarcev in the Koloseum
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 15, 2007, 05:16:35 PM
i'm not saying giant sets are not hard work.

they tell me a marathon's hard work too, but that activity is proven to be catabolic.

you tell me that i shouldn't 'assume', but that's exactly what you do re: that i am 'weak minded' even though you know nothing about me. your arrogance blinds you from your hypocrisy.

you appear to either misunderstand my point or you're disingenuously dismissing it.

my point is not a theory or a hypothesis and it certainly has nothing to do with HIT (which is arthur jones' theory btw, not mentzer), it is an absolute fact.

the higher the intensity ie the higher the work output, the briefer the duration.

milos, if your ridiculous theory was correct:

brian siders would be performing 10 super slow reps with 600lbs in the bench press as only the 1st movement in an extended giant set. ::)

donovan bailey would be slicing at least 70% from the world record in the marathon event.

linemen would be getting paid billions to run the whole game flat out.

milos sarcev would be getting paid billions as the greatest revolutionary coach of all time. the man to actually defy every known FACT of kinesiology, human biology and physiology.

i appreciate that you actually have the balls to debate the issue, but you can not win this one and i believe you know it.

had you said that your training style was best for bbing performance it would be more difficult for me to refute, because:

1. you are far more accomplished than i will ever be in that area.

2. and (more importantly), the exact cause - effect relationship between exercise and anabolism has never actually been identified.




 

Come to my seminar (AS I WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME) and I'll defend each and every of my theories...with common sense and logic. ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 16, 2007, 12:23:34 AM
BTW - I entered 72 IFBB pro shows...qualified for the Olympia - my first consecutive 10 years as a pro...
As an amateur I entered 38 competitions - making total of 110 shows that I've competed in.

"Beast" if you do have a chance to come to my seminar - please remind me of who you are and PLEASE ask ANY QUESTIONS - during the seminar I will have the opportunity to explain everything and go to the smallest details...Here I really DON'T HAVE (the time...)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: bigkahuna on April 16, 2007, 02:55:33 AM
milos do you think that if you had trained this way earlier in your bodybuilding career you would have
won more shows?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: phyxsius on April 16, 2007, 05:07:54 AM
I can see this thread will go far... say 100 pages?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 16, 2007, 08:57:34 AM
milos do you think that if you had trained this way earlier in your bodybuilding career you would have
won more shows?


I did train like this earlier in my bodybuilding career...occasionally (periodically ;))...
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: BEAST 8692 on April 16, 2007, 10:21:25 AM
BTW - I entered 72 IFBB pro shows...qualified for the Olympia - my first consecutive 10 years as a pro...
As an amateur I entered 38 competitions - making total of 110 shows that I've competed in.

"Beast" if you do have a chance to come to my seminar - please remind me of who you are and PLEASE ask ANY QUESTIONS - during the seminar I will have the opportunity to explain everything and go to the smallest details...Here I really DON'T HAVE (the time...)

milos, i would love to come to your seminar, but i will not even be in the same country at that time.

i hope to one day attend your gym and i will introduce myself.

i am not a bber per se, although i use bbing exercises for my sport. i use weight training purely to enhance strength, speed and explosive power as only part of a structured training program, which also involves a great deal of interval and endurance type training.

when i retire i intend to follow exclusively bbing, as i believe this to be more satisfying mentally and physically than what i do now.

i agree that changing the angle, motivation, speed of eccentric/concentric with specific movements during a giant set is an effective way to continually stimulate a muscle, but my only point of contention is that you can not perform at maximum intensity for an extended period. this is impossible and all you're doing is, in fact, lowering the athletes ability to perform at maximal intensity ( yes, this is actually a learned and conditioned reponse).

this is the real reason your trainees are using lighter weights during the giant set itself, because they have to to accomodate the decline in intensity. they may have superior conditioning. hell, they may have larger muscles, but that is not my point of contention. muscle buillding exclusively is anything BUT an exact science anyway.

if you care to perform a standard strength test on your athletes i believe you will find that they, in fact, become weaker and slower over time, anabolic drugs notwithstanding.

put it this way, if you were to take johnny jackson (who competes in bbing and powerlifting) and train him with your system over 8 months you would effectively destroy his powerlifting career. you would have trained him to become weaker and slower.



Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 16, 2007, 12:00:45 PM
milos, i would love to come to your seminar, but i will not even be in the same country at that time.

i hope to one day attend your gym and i will introduce myself.

i am not a bber per se, although i use bbing exercises for my sport. i use weight training purely to enhance strength, speed and explosive power as only part of a structured training program, which also involves a great deal of interval and endurance type training.

when i retire i intend to follow exclusively bbing, as i believe this to be more satisfying mentally and physically than what i do now.

i agree that changing the angle, motivation, speed of eccentric/concentric with specific movements during a giant set is an effective way to continually stimulate a muscle, but my only point of contention is that you can not perform at maximum intensity for an extended period. this is impossible and all you're doing is, in fact, lowering the athletes ability to perform at maximal intensity ( yes, this is actually a learned and conditioned reponse).

this is the real reason your trainees are using lighter weights during the giant set itself, because they have to to accommodate the decline in intensity. they may have superior conditioning. hell, they may have larger muscles, but that is not my point of contention. muscle building exclusively is anything BUT an exact science anyway.

if you care to perform a standard strength test on your athletes i believe you will find that they, in fact, become weaker and slower over time, anabolic drugs notwithstanding.

put it this way, if you were to take johnny jackson (who competes in bbing and powerlifting) and train him with your system over 8 months you would effectively destroy his powerlifting career. you would have trained him to become weaker and slower.





I would love to see you one day and IF I have a chance to elaborate everything to you - I promise you will consider it...
It is just too much for me to go in details right here and I know I would open can of warms - that I could not close for months...and I don't have that much time...

Consider that EVERYONE adapts to given demand or stimulus...
So take Johny Jackson for example and think what would have happen if I would keep his normal strength exercises in his program and only add a super set after his best lifts...Which means - first two weeks add only additional exercise after his heavy compound move of choice...

Do you think he will increase or decrease his training intensity with this addition?

Next, after 2-3 weeks - add third exercise (as a tri-set)...and see how he responds on that...and than 4th...and so on...

Why would you ever think that workouts like this would be counterproductive?
Now, this is only about training stimulus and conditioning...I assume that every other parameter is at the highest level (nutrition and adequate rest...plus supplementation...not to mention "other" methods...)

I purposely said "weak minded" - to see your response - and obviously I did hit the nerve ::) - but in reality I was also once like you - just not accepting some things if I thought it was not realistically possible...
Than I saw one guy in San Diego - training in my gym on Midway drive...and he opened my eyes - literally...

He trained about 6 hours a day - every body part - and super intense..
Started with heavy compound moves and than started applying all the other advanced methods (including drop sets and giant sets...)...
While I was convinced that he was on major drugs - he would enter drug free shows all the time - and even though I was convinced that he cheated - he issued the challenge to me - for 10 grand that I can take him to any lab and through every test...

Needless to say - I backed off...as after all I was not sure he was taking anything - but it sure looked like it considering the way he trained and how he looked at the time...

Anyway, I was sure that in matter of few weeks he would slow down and start loosing weight, strength...etc...only to my surprise - he was continuously getting better, stronger, bigger, more muscular...

????

Well, that defies the logic...but than I started thinking - why would I consider that he is overtraining JUST BECAUSE HE TRAINS SO MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN ME?

I realized that I was limiting myself as I was weak minded...and I accepted certain limitations...

Human body is a miracle...and while for sure running marathon sounds impossible to all of us - ONE DAY (maybe in the far future) THAT MIGHT BE A CASE...After all records are made to be broken...

So, no hard feelings for my comment (weak mind) - I did it on purpose just to see how you will respond...
Interestingly - many of you change when I turn the "nice page of my book"...and become much nicer...
And that is my intention - to soften up typical getbiger - and show love to everyone...so they just might like it and start showing love towards others...

After all - that's what life is all about...love and unity rather than war...at least in my book...

Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: arce377 on April 16, 2007, 12:43:27 PM
 MILOS IS AN IFBB LEGEND.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Rudee on April 16, 2007, 03:32:21 PM
Milos how big are your calves? Care to post your pics against basts?


Wow.  Is that pic morphed or is that guy got some of the skinniest lower legs I have ever seen on an adult. 
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on April 16, 2007, 05:42:50 PM
I cant wait until that seminar. I live in anaheim hills, right down the street from milos gym.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Tamer Razor on April 17, 2007, 02:12:39 PM
I cant wait until that seminar. I live in anaheim hills, right down the street from milos gym.

I am sure no questions will be left unanswer.....I hope all the skeptical be ready.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: KGG on May 07, 2007, 03:37:51 PM
milos  why  one  of  your  team  members  left the  team ???? i heard  that  he  got sick  and  tierd  from  doing  super  sets  all the time with  out seeing results ::)



Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on May 07, 2007, 06:43:49 PM
milos  why  one  of  your  team  members  left the  team ???? i heard  that  he  got sick  and  tierd  from  doing  super  sets  all the time with  out seeing results ::)





Really?
And who would that be?
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ManBearPig... on May 07, 2007, 06:50:51 PM
can one of you who's going make a transcript of this for those of us who don't live in california?  thanks.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: YoungBlood on May 07, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
can one of you who's going make a transcript of this for those of us who don't live in california?  thanks.

That would be really cool. Something I'd pay for. :)

Milos- do you think KGG could be referring to Marcello? ::)

I think he's lying out his ass, (KGG that is), but maybe he's trying to stir up shit by using Marcello as an example. ::) ???
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: War-Horse on May 07, 2007, 07:11:08 PM
can one of you who's going make a transcript of this for those of us who don't live in california?  thanks.


LOL......hanging on every word.   
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: KGG on May 07, 2007, 08:42:23 PM
Really?
And who would that be?

THANKS  FOR YOUR  ANSWER.
WELL,i think  he  is  amexican  guy i cant  rememeber  his  name. he  is not  a pro.

thanks
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: ManBearPig... on May 07, 2007, 08:43:28 PM
THANKS  FOR YOUR  ANSWER.
WELL,i think  he  is  amexican  guy i cant  rememeber  his  name. he  is not  a pro.

thanks

John Romano's the name.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: chaos on May 07, 2007, 09:33:47 PM
THANKS  FOR YOUR  ANSWER.
WELL,i think  he  is  amexican  guy i cant  rememeber  his  name. he  is not  a pro.

thanks
If you are talking about Marcello, I think he left for personal reasons and nothing to do with training.

You should look a little deeper before you open your mouth,fuckface.
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on May 08, 2007, 12:50:27 AM
THANKS  FOR YOUR  ANSWER.
WELL,i think  he  is  amexican  guy i cant  rememeber  his  name. he  is not  a pro.

thanks

Amexican guy and not a pro?
Hmmmm?

The question is - why did he stop training with me?
Because he was not happy with results...or SOMETHING ELSE ;)
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on May 08, 2007, 12:51:16 AM
I think the FitShow guys are gonna tape it and make a dvd -- I think...Milos? Yes/No?

yes
Title: Re: new MILOS SARCEV training pics...
Post by: Vince B on May 08, 2007, 05:14:19 AM
Milos, be careful with biceps pads that rub against your elbows. I have modified all my machines so that doesn't happen. Ditto with triceps machines. Otherwise you end up with pointed and sore elbows.

Medx had a reasonable solution by putting a roller under the arms in the biceps machine.