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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: gh15 on January 07, 2007, 05:21:28 AM
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you asked me before why i didnt approve BRITISH DRAGON UNDERGROUND COMPANY,, i said the reason is due to bunk shitty products that were either underdosed or were not up to standards.
i said i would talk about this subject in jan 2007,, but i dont think i need to talk about it anymore,,
you want to stay in business? get approved by FDA or get your products up to pharma standards,, to the T.
NEVER DID I SEE RESULTS COMING OUT OF BD PRODUCTS! NEVER! AND NEVER WILL YOU
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http://www.britishdragon.com
British Dragon has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of British Dragon.
Thus, no genuine British Dragon products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.
All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).
British Dragon would like to thank its loyal supporters.
Please re-visit this site for further bulletins.
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Hey GH, what website do you order from?
and will we get a 10% discount if we mention GH15 from Getbig?
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I'm pretty sure William Llewellyn analyzed a number of their products and they were well dosed, correct compound etc. I haven't used them but a number of my friends have and they worked pretty well.
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'gh15', whats your opinion on Genesis meds?
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'gh15', whats your opinion on Genesis meds?
whats your opinion of strap ons?
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This is very easy to prove or disprove. Get a couple of their products tested then end of story.
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He's full of sh*t. BD products have always been top notch and many people will verify this. The reason they are closing down the line is due to one particular supplier that started producing is own fake products and selling it as BD. I won't name names but due to this BD will no longer be produced. GH15 obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
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I hear eurochem is better than british dragon. ive tried british dragon gear and it was decent. the eurochem shit is a little stronger though.
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I just started with BD dbol, I'll let you guys know how that goes.
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He's full of sh*t. BD products have always been top notch and many people will verify this. The reason they are closing down the line is due to one particular supplier that started producing is own fake products and selling it as BD. I won't name names but due to this BD will no longer be produced. GH15 obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
the russian guy who is femiliar to me because BM is also under his control has nothing to do with this. he is a loonaateek but he is kept in a box when it comes to the market.
british dragon was owned by couple guys from the boards,, it was prvatley operated and the stories you heard about it was a complete market oriented.
british dragon wanted to own the market and fell big time due to PROBLEMS IN CONTROLING THE UNCONTROLABLE! THE UNCONTROLABLE = fda certification or any other one to that matter,, and up to standard state of the art facilities,, and ofcourse hormone powders.
british dragon was a BATH TAB LAB,, that sucked money out of every lifter,,,because many sources stopped carrying human grade products and relied on the british dragon "marketing strategies on the internet boards"
you dont come to GOD which is me,,and tell me i dont know what im talkin about,,while you all injected undrdosed oil on a regular basis from british dragon,,,that lab is all based on lie and one big lie of couple people who wanted to get rich and they did! they sure did thanks to you,,
as i said over and over,,when you send on vial to test it doesnt mean shit! there was NO CONTROL OVER PRODUCTION,,every one did his own thing,,,they wanted eastern europe ,,,and western europe,,and middle east,,,thats all bullshit,,in reality they were sending empty vials and stickers/labels/rubbers and stoppers and some 20 year old did your bd bunk gear in the fuckin kitchen next to his steak and veg oil
so when you come to me and try to lecture me about hormones,,,first go to to the local dealers,,,then come to the remailers,,,,then to the china connection man you got ,,,,and only then come to me and even then make sure you know what you talking about,,
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the russian guy who is femiliar to me because BM is also under his control has nothing to do with this. he is a loonaateek but he is kept in a box when it comes to the market.
british dragon was owned by couple guys from the boards,, it was prvatley operated and the stories you heard about it was a complete market oriented.
british dragon wanted to own the market and fell big time due to PROBLEMS IN CONTROLING THE UNCONTROLABLE! THE UNCONTROLABLE = fda certification or any other one to that matter,, and up to standard state of the art facilities,, and ofcourse hormone powders.
british dragon was a BATH TAB LAB,, that sucked money out of every lifter,,,because many sources stopped carrying human grade products and relied on the british dragon "marketing strategies on the internet boards"
you dont come to GOD which is me,,and tell me i dont know what im talkin about,,while you all injected undrdosed oil on a regular basis from british dragon,,,that lab is all based on lie and one big lie of couple people who wanted to get rich and they did! they sure did thanks to you,,
as i said over and over,,when you send on vial to test it doesnt mean shit! there was NO CONTROL OVER PRODUCTION,,every one did his own thing,,,they wanted eastern europe ,,,and western europe,,and middle east,,,thats all bullshit,,in reality they were sending empty vials and stickers/labels/rubbers and stoppers and some 20 year old did your bd bunk gear in the fuckin kitchen next to his steak and veg oil
so when you come to me and try to lecture me about hormones,,,first go to to the local dealers,,,then come to the remailers,,,,then to the china connection man you got ,,,,and only then come to me and even then make sure you know what you talking about,,
LOL- BuffD is a genxxlgear rep of course he is going to stick up for BD because thats what they sell. they are BD remailers who get all their stuff from alin so if hes selling fakes so is genx. I think BuffD does know what hes talking about because his pictures are up on the boards . hes a big dude. if he uses BD gear its obviously working.
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LOL- BuffD is a genxxlgear rep of course he is going to stick up for BD because thats what they sell. they are BD remailers who get all their stuff from alin so if hes selling fakes so is genx. I think BuffD does know what hes talking about because his pictures are up on the boards . hes a big dude. if he uses BD gear its obviously working.
it doesnt mean its fake it just means its underdosed or the winny could be really suspention shit like that u always get steroids just not what you pay for so u will get results no matter what, but its a bullshit world where money is everything
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the russian guy who is femiliar to me because BM is also under his control has nothing to do with this. he is a loonaateek but he is kept in a box when it comes to the market.
british dragon was owned by couple guys from the boards,, it was prvatley operated and the stories you heard about it was a complete market oriented.
british dragon wanted to own the market and fell big time due to PROBLEMS IN CONTROLING THE UNCONTROLABLE! THE UNCONTROLABLE = fda certification or any other one to that matter,, and up to standard state of the art facilities,, and ofcourse hormone powders.
british dragon was a BATH TAB LAB,, that sucked money out of every lifter,,,because many sources stopped carrying human grade products and relied on the british dragon "marketing strategies on the internet boards"
you dont come to GOD which is me,,and tell me i dont know what im talkin about,,while you all injected undrdosed oil on a regular basis from british dragon,,,that lab is all based on lie and one big lie of couple people who wanted to get rich and they did! they sure did thanks to you,,
as i said over and over,,when you send on vial to test it doesnt mean shit! there was NO CONTROL OVER PRODUCTION,,every one did his own thing,,,they wanted eastern europe ,,,and western europe,,and middle east,,,thats all bullshit,,in reality they were sending empty vials and stickers/labels/rubbers and stoppers and some 20 year old did your bd bunk gear in the fuckin kitchen next to his steak and veg oil
so when you come to me and try to lecture me about hormones,,,first go to to the local dealers,,,then come to the remailers,,,,then to the china connection man you got ,,,,and only then come to me and even then make sure you know what you talking about,,
I guess being on a lot of test HAS psychological influence....
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if you think any of the so called "big guys" got initially "big" from using underground products you are severely mistaken,,
we all for years counted on HUMAN GRADE GEAR AND TO THIS DAY WE STILL DO,,,WE ALSO COUNTED ON MEX VET GEAR ANND SUCKED THE PAIN OF HIGH BA BECAUSE IT WAS LEGIT,,DIRTY BUT LEGIT!
i always suggest to every one to build their size (past natural that is) on human grade,,and there is a very very good reason for that beside the sterility ofcourse.
better pay 10 more $ and be happy,,,then pay 10 $ less and always look in the miror askin why cant you feel anything
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i say stick with the QV labs even though it got busted it is still good shit....... good ol jay cutler still takes it dont ya buddie btw if your read this V says HI ;D
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hey gh what do you think of somatorm by el ramoz, shit good bad, and what about their igf any good
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Reminds me why I can't be bothered to use steroids. So much bullshit and contradictory opinion its not funny.
Matt C, teh darkside is not worth the hassle, you're doing fine as it is.
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Reminds me why I can't be bothered to use steroids. So much bullshit and contradictory opinion its not funny.
Matt C, teh darkside is not worth the hassle, you're doing fine as it is.
so ignorantly put it's priceless. No go back to your basement and shut up!
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so ignorantly put it's priceless. No go back to your basement and shut up!
I think you're going to have a very hard time justifying that what I'm saying is particularly ignorant. Since its so ignorant that its priceless it shouldn't be difficult though.
(Whilst you might disagree that it is worth the hassle nothing I said is at all ignorant. There is volumes of conjecture about all aspects of gear usage and to many it isn't worth the trouble - thats not atall ignorant, its a statement of opinion).
Would you be interested in wading through all the opinions, half truths and so forth bandied around regarding sound monitors for around $1.5-2K US a pair? Remember now, should you refuse to help me come to my decision you're an ignorant twit (so ignorant - its priceless) because after all, if its not worth the hassle - its clearly ignorant?.. right?
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hey gh what do you think of somatorm by el ramoz, shit good bad, and what about their igf any good
Yeah I'd like to hear his opinion on this as well. I think the "company" is shady as hell.
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I think you're going to have a very hard time justifying that what I'm saying is particularly ignorant. Since its so ignorant that its priceless it shouldn't be difficult though.
(Whilst you might disagree that it is worth the hassle nothing I said is at all ignorant. There is volumes of conjecture about all aspects of gear usage and to many it isn't worth the trouble - thats not atall ignorant, its a statement of opinion).
Would you be interested in wading through all the opinions, half truths and so forth bandied around regarding sound monitors for around $1.5-2K US a pair? Remember now, should you refuse to help me come to my decision you're an ignorant twit (so ignorant - its priceless) because after all, if its not worth the hassle - its clearly ignorant?.. right?
blah blah
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blah blah
Thats what I thought ::)
Bit off more than you could chew, halfwit.
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there was NO CONTROL OVER PRODUCTION,,every one did his own thing,,,they wanted eastern europe ,,,and western europe,,and middle east,,,thats all bullshit,,in reality they were sending empty vials and stickers/labels/rubbers and stoppers and some 20 year old did your bd bunk gear in the fuckin kitchen next to his steak and veg oil
I always suspected this as well. Much riskier to transport full vials rather than sending powders, oils, vials and labels separately. The "manufacturing" was probably done at several locations.
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Thats what I thought ::)
Bit off more than you could chew, halfwit.
don't get mad...muua!
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you asked me before why i didnt approve BRITISH DRAGON UNDERGROUND COMPANY,, i said the reason is due to bunk shitty products that were either underdosed or were not up to standards.
i said i would talk about this subject in jan 2007,, but i dont think i need to talk about it anymore,,
you want to stay in business? get approved by FDA or get your products up to pharma standards,, to the T.
NEVER DID I SEE RESULTS COMING OUT OF BD PRODUCTS! NEVER! AND NEVER WILL YOU
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http://www.britishdragon.com
British Dragon has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of British Dragon.
Thus, no genuine British Dragon products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.
All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).
British Dragon would like to thank its loyal supporters.
Please re-visit this site for further bulletins.
I gotta disagree with you on that one, bro. I have used BD products many a time and with excellent results. My strength went up and my overall physique got better.
PB
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hey gh what do you think of somatorm by el ramoz, shit good bad, and what about their igf any good
somatorm is good gh. as strong as american made gh but too costly for its presentation since again we are talking about an underground presentation for generic gh,, it will make you lose fat a lot better than jintropin and it is same quality as hyg gh/old brown tops,, both top notch and both are better than jintropin.
now the igf is generic and is good. it is 90+% pure and thats all you need,,it will work better than gh on younger guys since younger guys 35 and less only look for the composition change that IGF has to offer,,and this composition change come very very fast at 100mcg a day.
older guys may find gh better for other reasons than pure growth.
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now the igf is generic and is good. it is 90+% pure and thats all you need
Is it receptor grade like they claim or not? The igf and the gh is not supposed to be Chinese made either, true?
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Is it receptor grade like they claim or not? The igf and the gh is not supposed to be Chinese made either, true?
Its probably media grade. everyone says they have receptor grade. classic pitch. you want pure receptor grade IGF-1 Im one of the few who has it.
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somatorm is good gh. as strong as american made gh but too costly for its presentation since again we are talking about an underground presentation for generic gh,, it will make you lose fat a lot better than jintropin and it is same quality as hyg gh/old brown tops,, both top notch and both are better than jintropin.
now the igf is generic and is good. it is 90+% pure and thats all you need,,it will work better than gh on younger guys since younger guys 35 and less only look for the composition change that IGF has to offer,,and this composition change come very very fast at 100mcg a day.
older guys may find gh better for other reasons than pure growth.
Serious question: how can one HGH make you lose fat better than another?
I also hear claims that XX's Testosterone enantate makes you build better muscles than YY's Enantate or makes you lose more hair or whatever. I'm talking about human grade that is. For example greek norma competing to german schering or whatever.Isn't this Bullshit? Test is test, and especially with human grade there shouldn't be a difference.
Testosterone is testosterone.
Any answers on this GH15?
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Serious question: how can one HGH make you lose fat better than another?
I also hear claims that XX's Testosterone enantate makes you build better muscles than YY's Enantate or makes you lose more hair or whatever. I'm talking about human grade that is. For example greek norma competing to german schering or whatever.Isn't this Bullshit? Test is test, and especially with human grade there shouldn't be a difference.
Testosterone is testosterone.
Any answers on this GH15?
Im not gh15 but alot has to do with the chem house the raw materials are coming from. there is a diffrence between USP grade powders and food grade powders. food grade powder is being prodcued on a large scale throughout china. if your getting product thats made from cheap"food grade" powder its going to show in the quality of the finished product. also there are diffrent amino acid sequences when it comes to GH. most use 191-AA.
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GH what is your opinion on Genesis meds? and also STALLION LABS? your opinion is much valued.
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Im not gh15 but alot has to do with the chem house the raw materials are coming from. there is a diffrence between USP grade powders and food grade powders. food grade powder is being prodcued on a large scale throughout china. if your getting product thats made from cheap"food grade" powder its going to show in the quality of the finished product. also there are diffrent amino acid sequences when it comes to GH. most use 191-AA.
I was talking about human grade big companies that are compared. You hear this all the time on the german boards. Russian Galenika are better than greek norma or whatever.
I'm not talking about cheap underground raw materials.
Sorry if that was unclear.
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I was talking about human grade big companies that are compared. You hear this all the time on the german boards. Russian Galenika are better than greek norma or whatever.
I'm not talking about cheap underground raw materials.
Sorry if that was unclear.
only explanation for that is they use diffrent powder suppliers. also other things come into play like what kind of oil they are using and how much BA alcohol they are putting in the shit. also how well they are filtering the shit comes into play.
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Serious question: how can one HGH make you lose fat better than another?
I also hear claims that XX's Testosterone enantate makes you build better muscles than YY's Enantate or makes you lose more hair or whatever. I'm talking about human grade that is. For example greek norma competing to german schering or whatever.Isn't this Bullshit? Test is test, and especially with human grade there shouldn't be a difference.
Testosterone is testosterone.
Any answers on this GH15?
as long is the gh is 191aa then it all SHOULD be the same,,,the problem is with purity,,and additives,,and manufactoring standards,,where most of the generics are not up to par with american growth as of now. most! not all
and yes test is test as long as its human grade and same ester,,,only diff can be in the type of oil used,,some are smoother some are thicker some absorbed and processed better by the body,,its a matter of comfortability.
ingeneral test is test as long as its human grade and legit,,youre right
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Is it receptor grade like they claim or not? The igf and the gh is not supposed to be Chinese made either, true?
it is most likely media grade,,put in 1200mcg insted of 1000mcg and it becomes receptor ;) the media is pure enough for anyone,,they all are 90%+ as of the beggining of 2007,,
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GH what is your opinion on Genesis meds? and also STALLION LABS? your opinion is much valued.
its ug,,i dont use anything ug unless it is lsp and also only tablets and fina.
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They have good gear at BD, too bad they closed. I have tried their test and EQ and can personally verifiy it works well, at least the stuff I was getting. Very good results with relatively low doses.
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gh15, I think you right about BD as it is mostly hit and miss.
However what is your opinion on the following undergrounds from Europe like:
LSP
BM
Generic Supplements
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Serious question: how can one HGH make you lose fat better than another?
I also hear claims that XX's Testosterone enantate makes you build better muscles than YY's Enantate or makes you lose more hair or whatever. I'm talking about human grade that is. For example greek norma competing to german schering or whatever.Isn't this Bullshit? Test is test, and especially with human grade there shouldn't be a difference.
Testosterone is testosterone.
Any answers on this GH15?
Yes it should be equal but like the fellows said there could be impurities that affect the chemical, tabs could be pressed in a way that affects uptake or whatever. Who knows. I once asked Nandi aka Karl Hoffman (R.I.P.) this very question and he gave the example of legit psych drugs having different effects in some reports (he linked to a medline abstract), some schizophrenics were switched to generic forms of an antipsychotic and went psychotic again. So whatever the reason there could be differences even in legit drugs.
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it is most likely media grade,,put in 1200mcg insted of 1000mcg and it becomes receptor ;) the media is pure enough for anyone,,they all are 90%+ as of the beggining of 2007,,
Okay, what about this: some UG outfits claim to have gropep igf for affordable prices. True? It doesn't sound right to me since the gropep prices are so high but maybe they are much cheaper in bulk?
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Is Eurochem labs still good to go? ??? ???
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Are British dragon and British dispensary the same thing? Whoever makes the 5mg pink tias, those were legit. I used to get a thousand for a hundred bucks back in 2003.
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Are British dragon and British dispensary the same thing? Whoever makes the 5mg pink tias, those were legit. I used to get a thousand for a hundred bucks back in 2003.
Yes I believe so
I had those same pink thais
def legit.
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i thought the bd stuff and qv stull was made by chinaman, and the bd stuff was also made by a bunch of others? meaing it is all counterfit and the real BD is dead
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Read the thread date... lol
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i did british dragon test and deca my first cycle. 12 weeks 3 vials of test e and 3 vials of deca. gained 30lbs. it's lagit as anything in my experience.
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EUROCHEM ANYONE?
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Are British dragon and British dispensary the same thing? Whoever makes the 5mg pink tias, those were legit. I used to get a thousand for a hundred bucks back in 2003.
They are not the same thing.
i thought the bd stuff and qv stull was made by chinaman, and the bd stuff was also made by a bunch of others? meaing it is all counterfit and the real BD is dead
The original BD was shut down in 2008.
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This thread is an excellent find for numerous reasons.
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This thread is an excellent find for numerous reasons.
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I'm simply referring to some old comments made by GH15 a few years ago.
As far as your question. I remember William Llewellyn saying there were no contaminants found in EUROCHEM but I don't recall what he said about dosing or anything of that nature.
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The latest incarnation of British dragon sucks donkey balls.
Got some Var and Dbol from them, both were worthless.
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I'm simply referring to some old comments made by GH15 a few years ago.
PURE GOLD. ;D
The latest incarnation of British dragon sucks donkey balls.
Got some Var and Dbol from them, both were worthless.
I just got some new BD DBOL and it's great, maybe ours are from a different patch? BTW. I got the 500, 10mg pills, Methanabol.
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PURE GOLD. ;D
I just got some new BD DBOL and it's great, maybe ours are from a different patch? BTW. I got the 500, 10mg pills, Methanabol.
Yeah i think it is massively batch dependant. Great one batch, nothing next batch.
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Yeah i think it is massively batch dependant. Great one batch, nothing next batch.
There's a batch floating about with under 400 tabs in it when you pay for 500. Quality control is still not great but some work and some don't. Prochem seems to be doing a good job recently
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The latest incarnation of British dragon sucks donkey balls.
Got some Var and Dbol from them, both were worthless.
There are actually three different labs out there that are producing under the British Dragon label in mass amounts....three labs that are not connected to each other in any way. From what I've seen in lab reports, two are pure crap, one seems OK.
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There are actually three different labs out there that are producing under the British Dragon label in mass amounts....three labs that are not connected to each other in any way. From what I've seen in lab reports, two are pure crap, one seems OK.
Bd.Eu.
There have been a lot of people running with the name because of the brand recognition.
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There are actually three different labs out there that are producing under the British Dragon label in mass amounts....three labs that are not connected to each other in any way. From what I've seen in lab reports, two are pure crap, one seems OK.
so basically there are 3 dudes out there brewing stuff and slapping a british dragon label on it? this is what i have always suspected, china man being one and i would inject my own piss before taking his stuff. lol
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There are actually three different labs out there that are producing under the British Dragon label in mass amounts....three labs that are not connected to each other in any way. From what I've seen in lab reports, two are pure crap, one seems OK.
Ran some bd masteron E awhile back. It was bunk.
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so basically there are 3 dudes out there brewing stuff and slapping a british dragon label on it? this is what i have always suspected, china man being one and i would inject my own piss before taking his stuff. lol
corect,,
the only british dragon i approve is the retabolil production which is no long aroudn for good 6 years...
anything ip is bunk ,, ANY THING! sometime compounds that will! harm you
gh15 approved
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Anyone tried RAM or precision labs?!?
And I'm curious, if there's multiple guys producing BD, can the same go for GH? I mean are all kigs coming from the same guy? Or all rips?! My guy swears up n down that his kigs are not the bunk shit floating around. But after all the shit, can I really believe him?!
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Anyone tried RAM or precision labs?!?
I tried Precision Labs Test/Tren/Mast blend but I couldn't continue with it because it gave me extensive swelling and pain for 8 days straight. It was brutal. I guess I was allergic to the Ethyl Oleate they use.
My guy swears up n down that his kigs are not the bunk shit floating around. But after all the shit, can I really believe him?!
If your guy is the guy who sells the Precision and RAM, he will definitely tell you what you want to hear regarding those Kigs. I bought some from him and they were total garbage.
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I tried Precision Labs Test/Tren/Mast blend but I couldn't continue with it because it gave me extensive swelling and pain for 8 days straight. It was brutal. I guess I was allergic to the Ethyl Oleate they use.
If your guy is the guy who sells the Precision and RAM, he will definitely tell you what you want to hear regarding those Kigs. I bought some from him and they were total garbage.
Kinda what I figured!! I hate dealing with all the shit sources!! By the time I find legit gear I will be too old to compete and broke from buying bunk shit!!
Thanks for the answer though!