What's a flogging?
Getting whipped on the back like Jesus did.
lol the flogging part ws bad adn wrong but overall..sounds like the old english adge..be a proper woman..
its their culture..
not as bad as african vaginal circumsicion <sp?>
or the hindu burning of a bride if she's not a virgin on the day of marriage..
Thing is mate,
I used to be a victim of always comparing Muslims with even worse examples, eg comparing Muslim traditions with 19th century Christian traditions.
Problem is, we live in the 21st century, and Islam should be held to the same standard as anything else.
Having an understanding is great. We need to understand why Muslims have a worse grade of emancipation than in the Western World.
But we shouldn't tolerate it. It's not acceptable. Because our values and beliefs are superior, we believe in equality, they don't.
We must win them over in some way.
ya think the homeless..never been educated..sick of life muslim well believe in the war on terrorism..
Thing is mate,
I used to be a victim of always comparing Muslims with even worse examples, eg comparing Muslim traditions with 19th century Christian traditions.
Problem is, we live in the 21st century, and Islam should be held to the same standard as anything else.
I know you can see this, and forgive me for pointing out the obvious (I'm not fcuking around in this reply, if you're wondering, I don't do that on the Political Board or the Religious ;)).
Having an understanding is great. We need to understand why Muslims have a worse grade of emancipation than in the Western World.
But we shouldn't tolerate it. It's not acceptable. Because our values and beliefs are superior, we believe in equality, they don't.
We must win them over in some way.
And war is not the answer. (Isn't that the lyrics of some kind of hippie song? 8) Debussey, you know?)
-Hedge
eh..someone needs to actually go to a 3rd world and see how bad it is..
if i told these sobs the easter buny ws responsible..they'd wage jihad against that.. :-\
miserable shitty lives makes for angry people..
Thing is mate,
I used to be a victim of always comparing Muslims with even worse examples, eg comparing Muslim traditions with 19th century Christian traditions.
Problem is, we live in the 21st century, and Islam should be held to the same standard as anything else.
I know you can see this, and forgive me for pointing out the obvious (I'm not fcuking around in this reply, if you're wondering, I don't do that on the Political Board or the Religious ;)).
Having an understanding is great. We need to understand why Muslims have a worse grade of emancipation than in the Western World.
But we shouldn't tolerate it. It's not acceptable. Because our values and beliefs are superior, we believe in equality, they don't.
We must win them over in some way.
And war is not the answer. (Isn't that the lyrics of some kind of hippie song? 8) Debussey, you know?)
-Hedge
Great post, Hedge. I've taken great personal risk in my real life to point out the flaws of Islam. People don't want to accept that this religion is backwards, in defense they say "we're not like that" but that's not the point. When you see countries like Pakistan and Saudia Arabia havings laws that make pre-marital sex a crime based on Islamic law, then it's obvious that the faith itself is barbaric. There are certain points where you can't use the "it's my culture/religion" crap anymore. If the practice and it's ideals are barbaric then it needs to be done away with, especially in western society where it has no fucking place.
I fear you're not actually that far off the mark with this comment. Moderate Muslims have much to do in the coming century to bring their more extreme peers, and religion into the modern world. The rest of us will watch with interest.
Eh... Camel Jockey ain't Muslim, you know that right? ???
-Hedge
I didn't know that, but I assumed it. What suggests to you I thought different?
You brought up moderate Muslims.
He's Atheist.
-Hedge
True, 18th century conditions lead to 18th century mindsets. Although I must point out the worrying trends of many of today's terrorists, living in 1st world western countries, and being highly educated.
An Athiest commenting on Islam, I fail to see your point here.
And to top it of, the coupemakers fails. Miserably. Chavez was protected by the Venezuelan public, and his legend grows even more, and any support that the USA had in Venezuela, was now effectively removed.
-Hedge