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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Grundle on February 01, 2007, 07:42:48 PM
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(http://240fm.com/rf/img5/r/1b.jpg)
Now go hug the trophy BB.com bought you gutboy!
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Musclememory is your friend....he's never beaten me.
End of story.
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Musclememory is your friend....he's never beaten me.
End of story.
I agree with you the judging is messed up
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the judging is a bigger joke than costumes
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rusty took a long time to be pro,needed master's nat's to make it ,chic did not.rusty had a better build in that time period in that above pic.
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Spot on Matt...I myself said I would have placed Rusty in the top 5, based on his great symmetry and presentation alone.
The judges decided to go with conditioning first and foremost for whatever reasoning, and Rusty was smooth...especially at the PJ.
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I would have placed him dead last for the mustache alone.
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I would have placed him dead last for the mustache alone.
are you kidding? that mustache should place him in the top 3 even if he came in at 15% bodyfat. all thats missing is some leather chaps and and an indian....
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I've never taken so much shit in my life over a little body hair!!!! At least I can grow one!! Haven't seen that pic in years, thanks for posting it! ....and by the way I'm 5'9 1/2" thank you!!
Rusty
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I've never taken so much shit in my life over a little body hair!!!! At least I can grow one!! Haven't seen that pic in years, thanks for posting it! ....and by the way I'm 5'9 1/2" thank you!!
Rusty
lol i gotta tell ya bro its hot in the kitchen, which is worst the pounding @ the gym or @ getbig ;D
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These guys are confusing "Rusty should have placed higher" (which no one is debating) with "Rusty should have won."
Let's see you guys find pictures of Rusty comparing to Bob in these shots. Thanks, I'll wait.
Bob never comes in dialed in,and as you have learnt in BB being ripped and medium size takes bloated and medium+.
Dont try to make Bob into Ronnie,do remember that he is 6 feet tall.
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Who cares about a trophy honestly these guys both have very impressive physics, the bitches they attract alone is a trophy itself, fuck the contest.
Honestly tell me, if you had there size would you Care about some Lil award?
just being in that shape is a award in itself as I'm sure they can tell ya
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Who cares about a trophy honestly these guys both have very impressive physics, the bitches they attract alone is a trophy itself, f**k the contest.
Honestly tell me, if you had there size would you Care about some Lil award?
just being in that shape is a award in itself as I'm sure they can tell ya
well, in the pros they get prize monies with the trophies too.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006masters_ngt_men7.htm (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006masters_ngt_men7.htm)
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bob already beat rusty so deal with it.
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bob is very diamond shaped not a good thing :P
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bob is very diamond shaped not a good thing :P
Diamond shape? That's a new one ;D
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Diamond shape? That's a new one ;D
Narrow shoulders, wide hips and unsavoury legs.....thats Chick Diamaond
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If you want to debate that Rusty should have placed higher, I'm all ears. As for him beating Bob, I would disagree. Rusty is 5'7 and competes in the 220s right? He gives up a lot of mass to Bob. It would kind of be like Shawn beating Dorian or Ronnie for example. Some of you guys make it sound like aesthetics are the only thing being judged and ignore mass, stature, conditioning, etc. Is this ironage? ???
i agree, Rusty has a great physique but Bob's shape is just as good plus Bob has more height, width and way more mass that's why Bob beats him IMO.
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I'm obviously biased, but excellent height!!
I'm more curious about how Claude beat you:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006masters_ngt_men7.htm (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006masters_ngt_men7.htm)
LOL He didn't. This contests and the results have no credibility. :'(
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=123867.0;attach=139506)
That's a really good pic of Chick.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=123867.0;attach=139506)
That's a really good pic of Chick.
IMO that's what an Olympia level physique should look like.
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Rusty looks awesome there. Very Nubret-like. I think Rusty should add just a tad of muscle to his chest and arms, but not so much as to ruin his lines.
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If you want to debate that Rusty should have placed higher, I'm all ears. As for him beating Bob, I would disagree. Rusty is 5'7 and competes in the 220s right? He gives up a lot of mass to Bob. It would kind of be like Shawn beating Dorian or Ronnie for example. Some of you guys make it sound like aesthetics are the only thing being judged and ignore mass, stature, conditioning, etc. Is this ironage? ???
Hay Shawn; How many times have you beaten Ronnie. At least 6 I can see. But that was before Ronnie found the secret.
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Groucho Marx lives!
(http://240fm.com/rf/img5/r/1b.jpg)
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IMO that's what an Olympia level physique should look like.
Yes but with symmetry.
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Yes but with symmetry.
not everybody can have 12 inch arms, calves and neck like you stud.
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Yes but with symmetry.
Judging on that pic alone, that's about as symmetrical as you're gonna get.
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Judging on that pic alone, that's about as symmetrical as you're gonna get.
I mean't shape. I don't blame Chick though he did pretty good for himself. I am sure he will be able to qualify for the mr. Olympia one day.
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Yeah...maybe some day.
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Chick is that front double bi of you from the masters or the 2000 USA's? Very impressive. I'd venture to say that is your best pose.
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I've never taken so much shit in my life over a little body hair!!!! At least I can grow one!! Haven't seen that pic in years, thanks for posting it! ....and by the way I'm 5'9 1/2" thank you!!
Rusty
GOOD LUCK AT THE IRONMAN...HOPEFULLY THEY WILL JUDGE RIGHT... NOT LIKE YOUR LAST SHOW :)
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Where would you have placed Rusty at the last show lee?
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lol Chic i think that was a low blow by Lee he's sneaky aint he
;D
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These guys are confusing "Rusty should have placed higher" (which no one is debating) with "Rusty should have won."
Let's see you guys find pictures of Rusty comparing to Bob in these shots. Thanks, I'll wait.
That pic of Chick is a cartoon caricature. Let's see you find one of Rusty that's as bad as this:
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Narrow shoulders, wide hips and unsavoury legs.....thats Chick Diamaond
Narrow shoulders??? you're kidding right ???
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That pic of Chick is a cartoon caricature. Let's see you find one of Rusty that's as bad as this:
All drugs. Bob is watching himself wither a way day by day. Soon his arms will be nothing but prunes.
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Where would you have placed Rusty at the last show lee?
HHMMMMM HMMMMMM 2ND NO 3RD..MAYBE 1ST EITHER WAY AHEAD OF YOU :)
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HHMMMMM HMMMMMM 2ND NO 3RD..MAYBE 1ST EITHER WAY AHEAD OF YOU :)
lol same thing I was thinking. How can he even pretend to ask?
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HHMMMMM HMMMMMM 2ND NO 3RD..MAYBE 1ST EITHER WAY AHEAD OF YOU :)
Rusty looked better then chick, no doubt.
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Rusty looked better then chick, no doubt.
And Chick will acknowledge it right after Bush admits that the WMD story was just a cover so American oil interests could dictate the terms of their access to Iraqi production.
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2004/01/21/bush3.jpg)
"Admit it.. I had you goin' there for a while."
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And Chick will acknowledge it right after Bush admits that the WMD story was just a cover so American oil interests could dictate the terms of their access to Iraqi production.
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2004/01/21/bush3.jpg)
"Admit it.. I had you goin' there for a while."
I hate Bush!
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HERE COMES THE SUN; HERE COMES THE SUN::::ITS ALLRITE
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HERE COMES THE SUN; HERE COMES THE SUN::::ITS ALLRITE
Life wisdom from a millionaire plagiarist licking the vegetarian shit out of the Maharishi's bunghole...
I'm glad that Liverpudlian douchebag is dead.
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HHMMMMM HMMMMMM 2ND NO 3RD..MAYBE 1ST EITHER WAY AHEAD OF YOU :)
Chic lets hear it bro ;D
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HHMMMMM HMMMMMM 2ND NO 3RD..MAYBE 1ST EITHER WAY AHEAD OF YOU :)
ah, finally the truth...how refreshing!
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I mean't shape. I don't blame Chick though he did pretty good for himself. I am sure he will be able to qualify for the mr. Olympia one day.
are you being sarcastic? cause I believe he qualified for the olympia with the masters win.
Wow! so many people hugging Chick's jock on this thread. I've seen 15-20 threads about this same topic since they announced the winner of the masters O' and none of them were this kind to Bob. In my opinon Rusty has better overall shape but chick does have decent shape himself along with larger mass so either way I had them 1st and 2nd. The only way to settle this argument would be an ultimate challenge. I propose a race around the world. We will have each athlete meet at the Town Hall where the Queen herself will wave the checkered flag.
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Spot on Matt...I myself said I would have placed Rusty in the top 5, based on his great symmetry and presentation alone.
The judges decided to go with conditioning first and foremost for whatever reasoning, and Rusty was smooth...especially at the PJ.
Bob,
You got to be kidding.
You were the smoothest guy in top 5. If judges went for conditioning, then you should not place higher than 5th (and that would be a gift).
It was a fixed show. Period.
You seem like a smart guy (altough you are a little bit full of yourseld), so why do you come on here defending yourself when it only makes you look "not so smart".
Yes, you won. Did you deserve it? Hell no and you know it.
In fact all your accomplishments in IFBB are based on your mouth rather than your physique. In NY you always get gifts. How you placed second in NY few years ago and got booed and now back in NY and the call is even worse than before.
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the judging is a bigger joke than costumes
Yep.
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I hate Bush!
You just "misunderestimate his strategery" body88. ;D
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I've never taken so much shit in my life over a little body hair!!!! At least I can grow one!! Haven't seen that pic in years, thanks for posting it! ....and by the way I'm 5'9 1/2" thank you!!
Rusty
hahaha I was only joking. You look awesome Rusty, especially in this pic,mustache and all. :)
(http://240fm.com/rf/img5/r/1b.jpg)
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I like Bob, but Rusty was better that day. Anybody who disagrees is a retard. Just like the judges. :D
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I like Bob, but Rusty was better that day. Anybody who disagrees is a retard. Just like the judges. :D
In any BB show someone always disagrees with the judges.I think pictures do not ALWAYS show you the same view the judges get from the contest.I think Rusty looks/looked great but Bob won the show and that's that. I think he has a good physique,far better than any of us(not counting the other pros) will ever come close to having and I don't see why he gets so much criticism on here. JMO.
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In any BB show someone always disagrees with the judges.I think pictures do not ALWAYS show you the same view the judges get from the contest.I think Rusty looks/looked great but Bob won the show and that's that. I think he has a good physique,far better than any of us(not counting the other pros) will ever come close to having and I don't see why he gets so much criticism on here. JMO.
calling them judges is THE joke.
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calling them judges is THE joke.
But that is always the case,isn't it? If it were not then Shawn Ray would have been Mr. Olympia at least once.
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I have tons of comparison pics on my website (www.rustyjeffers.net) if anyone cares to see them, smooth or out of condition?? Hardly. I have a coule of back poses in which I had striations on my butt. All I'm going to say about this show anymore is pics don't lie and it's up to the person looking at it to make the judgement..but always scrutinize pics and that's that. But to place behind physiques with missing bodyparts and bloated midsections is just another notch on my belt that makes me train harder. Trophys and prize money are nice, but seeing comparison pics and living well is the BEST REVENGE!!! nuff said
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I have tons of comparison pics on my website (www.rustyjeffers.net) if anyone cares to see them, smooth or out of condition?? Hardly. I have a coule of back poses in which I had striations on my butt. All I'm going to say about this show anymore is pics don't lie and it's up to the person looking at it to make the judgement..but always scrutinize pics and that's that. But to place behind physiques with missing bodyparts and bloated midsections is just another notch on my belt that makes me train harder. Trophys and prize money are nice, but seeing comparison pics and living well is the BEST REVENGE!!! nuff said
you've got an awesome physique Rusty i just think that Bob was a little superior that day as far as size, the shape was about the same but Bob is just bigger and freakier.
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Rusty bro that song has to go on your website, c'mon on dude this is not the stone age
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I have tons of comparison pics on my website (www.rustyjeffers.net) if anyone cares to see them, smooth or out of condition?? Hardly. I have a coule of back poses in which I had striations on my butt. All I'm going to say about this show anymore is pics don't lie and it's up to the person looking at it to make the judgement..but always scrutinize pics and that's that. But to place behind physiques with missing bodyparts and bloated midsections is just another notch on my belt that makes me train harder. Trophys and prize money are nice, but seeing comparison pics and living well is the BEST REVENGE!!! nuff said
Amen.
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Rusty owning the shit out of the top 5 !
(http://240fm.com/rf/gallcollect/a3.jpg)
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I have tons of comparison pics on my website (www.rustyjeffers.net) if anyone cares to see them, smooth or out of condition?? Hardly. I have a coule of back poses in which I had striations on my butt. All I'm going to say about this show anymore is pics don't lie and it's up to the person looking at it to make the judgement..but always scrutinize pics and that's that. But to place behind physiques with missing bodyparts and bloated midsections is just another notch on my belt that makes me train harder. Trophys and prize money are nice, but seeing comparison pics and living well is the BEST REVENGE!!! nuff said
Many of us posted numerous comparison pics between you and Chick, the pics clearly showed your superiority.
Chicks response was that pictures sometimes lie and that the only way to really judge who won was by being there.
What do you say to Chick's assertion that pictures don't tell the story and that being there is the only way to judge?
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Yeah that show was a tragedy! More power to you Rusty! You have the fans with you!
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That pic of Chick is a cartoon caricature. Let's see you find one of Rusty that's as bad as this:
its the first time i see him going off the juice. like for all the others, its amazing to see how powerful steroids are.
i thought he was on tons of juice all year round...finally he got off?
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I like Bob, but Rusty was better that day. Anybody who disagrees is a retard. Just like the judges. :D
I disagree here. Lets just say I know few things about judging first hand and I can assure you the judges are not blind. The show was fixed. Plain and simple. Chic can say whatever he wants but the truth remains that he didnt deserve first....or second....or third. He was smooth, alittle flat but overall not bad for a guy who is 40.
Chic, please dont take it as hate, cause it's not. Simple opinion of of the majority of fans, who clearly sees bullshit.
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Rusty you should show up with a female date to the next show. That way people will see that you are straight and you will win big time!
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Rusty you should show up with a female date to the next show. That way people will see that you are straight and you will win big time!
ahahhahhahhhhaha ;D
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If you want to debate that Rusty should have placed higher, I'm all ears. As for him beating Bob, I would disagree. Rusty is 5'7 and competes in the 220s right? He gives up a lot of mass to Bob. It would kind of be like Shawn beating Dorian or Ronnie for example. Some of you guys make it sound like aesthetics are the only thing being judged and ignore mass, stature, conditioning, etc. Is this ironage? ???
usually, i agree with you. but i think it was obvious that jeffers was in far better shape at that rigged masters show
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usually, i agree with you. but i think it was obvious that jeffers was in far better shape at that rigged masters show
it does not matter who is better shape this one is in the books but my honest opinion is rusty looked better
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Rusty you should show up with a female date to the next show. That way people will see that you are straight and you will win big time!
In order to place top 5 he would also need to beat her a few times. And without a police report it doesn't count
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Fair enough, I know this has been a heatly discussed topic. One question I have is why is Bob taking all the heat for this? He wasn't the only one who beat Rusty:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Masters+Pro+World+-+IFBB&y=2006
1 Bob Cicherillo
2 Johnny Stewart
3 Pavol Jablonicky
4 Claude Groulx
5 Stan McCrary
6 Nathan Wonsley
7 John Simmons
Rusty is a classic Serge Nubret / Frank Zane mix. 8)
Matt, I think Bob is taking most the heat for this, because all the people who placed ahead of Rusty ( with the exception of chick) where so laughable, one cannot fathom how they placed ahead of Jeffers. There is just no fucking way guys like Claude,and Stewart should be anywhere near the top 3. Rusty looked way better then Pavol on that particular night.To be honest, it was close between Chick and Rusty. But, Rusty is the rightful winner. Chick in second. Rusty looked much better.
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After reading these cool posts...I am going to bust ass in the gym!!! Thanks all..
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After reading these cool posts...I am going to bust ass in the gym!!! Thanks all..
Good luck to you!
Just don't post any pictures of Chick showing off his PBW jacket. He seems to be a little touchy about that for some reason. :-\
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Bob beat Rusty fair and square. Rusty looks great in pics depicting him alone, but Bob outmasses him in side-by-side comparisons.
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Bob beat Rusty fair and square. Rusty looks great in pics depicting him alone, but Bob outmasses him in side-by-side comparisons.
and that's all that counts ;)
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and that's all that counts ;)
If Mass was all that counted, Ruhl would be in the top 4 last year.
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Bob is more balanced and proportioned than Ruhl. That's a lame comparison.
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To the guy who posted that I should show up with a woman..., I show up at EVERY show with my wife and many times with our daughter with us. Guess you don't go to the shows?
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To the guy who posted that I should show up with a woman..., I show up at EVERY show with my wife and many times with our daughter with us. Guess you don't go to the shows?
LOL..welcome to the jungle.
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To the guy who posted that I should show up with a woman..., I show up at EVERY show with my wife and many times with our daughter with us. Guess you don't go to the shows?
Are you not concerned about your health? You have a family, and pro level BB ais not the most healthy thing around. Are you monitored by doctors?
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To the guy who posted that I should show up with a woman..., I show up at EVERY show with my wife and many times with our daughter with us. Guess you don't go to the shows?
For sure, Rusty was in Scottsdale with his daughter at One Stop, talking to fans and taking pictures alongside Jay C.
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Rusty c'mon on bro let's hear it, do you think that you should've won that show between you & Chick?
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Rusty has more of an oldschool look. He needs to come in either bigger at the same condition or more ripped to stand a chance with guys like Darrem, Heath, Dex, Melv, Vic, Gustavo, etc etc.
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To the guy who posted that I should show up with a woman..., I show up at EVERY show with my wife and many times with our daughter with us. Guess you don't go to the shows?
Sorry my bad. I was under the impression by many here that you where playing for the other side.
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What I think isn't and doesn't matter, the show is over. However, there is the future and that's where I intend to look. I do appreciate the cool posts, and once in a while I'll go online to read stuff for fun, post progress pics and look for feedback, but to "get into it" just isn't my style. I'm sure you've figured that out by what and how I conduct myself. I will retreat into the cave soon enough. I really don't think 240 ever inferred anything by the way....
As for health, I couldn't be healthier, I get checked all the time, and my personal physician has always said "All I can figure is whatever you're doing, either it is hiding very well or you are just superman" I'l opt for superman!!! Wait, Lee Priest has that one...I was Wolverine for Marvel comics for about a year tho----I'll have to post that pic if I can find it
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No shit..I was Capt America for Marvel...NOW we've got a contest!!
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Rusty owning the shit out of the top 5 !
(http://240fm.com/rf/gallcollect/a3.jpg)
Damn....no shit!
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Did you ever do the Comicon in San Diego?
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Rusty is the peoples masters olympia winner...That's what matters...No offense Bob...JMO
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No...but I hard it's great. I may do it this year. I only did the modeling for the actual comics, not the costume for the trade show.
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Rusty is the peoples masters olympia winner...Thatss what matters...No offense Bob...JMO
Not to rain on Rustys parade...............but it looks like Chic had that one also. lol............
Fan's Choice Online Voting was again very successful and gave another $1000 dollar award to the winner.
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Thanks for voting on the 2006 IFBB Masters Professional World Championships Fan's Choice.
Bob Cicherillo wins with 86%!
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Bob Cicherillo
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Not to rain on the parade, but the poster J. Fogerty has implied you are a homosexual on here because you posed in some magazines.
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Bob came in with size and shape and rightfully won the contest. Let it go ::)
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Bob came in with size and shape and rightfully won the contest. Let it go ::)
Synthol. ::) Right Lucious?
Just kidding Bob.
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Synthol. ::) Right Lucious?
Just kidding Bob.
Hahahahaha....old times ;D Synthol has become so ubiquitous that a " :-[" is more appropriate than a " ::) " ;D
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What I think isn't and doesn't matter, the show is over. However, there is the future and that's where I intend to look. I do appreciate the cool posts, and once in a while I'll go online to read stuff for fun, post progress pics and look for feedback, but to "get into it" just isn't my style. I'm sure you've figured that out by what and how I conduct myself. I will retreat into the cave soon enough. I really don't think 240 ever inferred anything by the way....
As for health, I couldn't be healthier, I get checked all the time, and my personal physician has always said "All I can figure is whatever you're doing, either it is hiding very well or you are just superman" I'l opt for superman!!! Wait, Lee Priest has that one...I was Wolverine for Marvel comics for about a year tho----I'll have to post that pic if I can find it
what did your doctor expect to find? what is the 'it' he speaks of?
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Chick won that fair & square. The conspiracy theorists are hard at work as usual. Rusty looked good , I may have placed him higher, but Bob clearly out muscled him. Chick was "The Man" on that day.
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What I think isn't and doesn't matter, the show is over. However, there is the future and that's where I intend to look. I do appreciate the cool posts, and once in a while I'll go online to read stuff for fun, post progress pics and look for feedback, but to "get into it" just isn't my style. I'm sure you've figured that out by what and how I conduct myself. I will retreat into the cave soon enough. I really don't think 240 ever inferred anything by the way....
As for health, I couldn't be healthier, I get checked all the time, and my personal physician has always said "All I can figure is whatever you're doing, either it is hiding very well or you are just superman" I'l opt for superman!!! Wait, Lee Priest has that one...I was Wolverine for Marvel comics for about a year tho----I'll have to post that pic if I can find it
So, your heart has a normal size without any left ventricle hypertrophy? Your liver is free of tumors? Your kidneys are operating at 100% efficiency?
Do you really know all these things?
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I know what my physician tells me, why do you know something that we don't?
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I know what my physician tells me, why do you know something that we don't?
Simple blood tests can not show everything.
Just stay safe, and monitor as many aspects as you can.
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I don't do just simple blood tests, I am VERY conscious of my health. My family means too much to me not to. Thanks for your concern, it is well received.
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I don't do just simple blood tests, I am VERY conscious of my health. My family means too much to me not to. Thanks for your concern, it is well received.
Good. You are one of the smartest pros out there. :)
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Bob Chick just deleted three of my threads because one was of his comments on squat buns of steel and another because of his comment on the x board about jimmy's penis.
just let it go, you sound desperate.
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It's my wife's post, you fuckin moron...I've never posed on the X board.
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He already deleted 4 threads and only one was started by me lol!
who cares.
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It's my wife's post, you fuckin moron...I've never posed on the X board.
she should make her own username/gimmick to prevent this from happening again....so chick, does she do this normally ?
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She has her own account, obviously she thought it was still logged on....she posts under "Proschic".
I had my computer bit the dust this past week, so were working with one for now...
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She has her own account, obviously she thought it was still logged on....she posts under "Proschic".
I had my computer bit the dust this past week, so were working with one for now...
you spelled Porsche wrong
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:o ;D
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My theory is that Chick is a little testier than usual lately due to baby-fueled sleep deprivation.
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No...just my usual "no patience for goofs" attitude.
Actually, I'm sleeping just fine...she gets up twice during the night, eats, and goes back to sleep.
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How many of his mags do you own?
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Cupcake?
You're the one bragging to be a Carl Hardwick fan....
No problem bro...to each their own...I just dont see the reasoning behind coming here to a BB board and announcing to everyone your sexual preference.
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Cupcake?
You're the one bragging to be a Carl Hardwick fan....
No problem bro...to each their own...I just dont see the reasoning behind coming here to a BB board and announcing to everyone your sexual preference.
He is looking for a new date. CUpcake sounds like a musclebear.
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Do you have a valid point?
Do you have ANY point?
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Ok dude, denial aint a river in Egypt.
You're right..it's your reality.
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Ahahahahahaha, Rusty Jeffers OWNS you! :-*
No...apparently YOU own Rusty Jeffers...on DVD as Carl Hardwick.
Good job!!
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No...apparently YOU own Rusty Jeffers...on DVD as Carl Hardwick.
Good job!!
I'm sure he's sold more DVD's than you. As a matter of fact, I'll bet money on it!
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No...apparently YOU own Rusty Jeffers...on DVD as Carl Hardwick.
Good job!!
;D
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I'm sure he's sold more DVD's than you. As a matter of fact, I'll bet money on it!
Great....so were back to square one...whats your point??
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She has her own account, obviously she thought it was still logged on....she posts under "Proschic".
I had my computer bit the dust this past week, so were working with one for now...
Are you buying a new one or having yours repaired?
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Are you buying a new one or having yours repaired?
why would you ask that? who cares?
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you're fat and small. i've seen you at the gym.
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But I think Arnold said it best Chick.
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When did he say this to you?
I'm sorry, it must have been traumatic to have an icon of Arnold's status shoot you down like that...he obviously sensed the same thing we do about you....