60 Minutes just aired an interview by Steve Kroft with Obama.
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml)
He and his wife are certainly likable. It's going to be interesting to see what if any platform he runs on other than the Anti-Bush platform. I haven't heard any of his ideas yet and I don't think anyone has. His people probably haven't even formed their campaign strategy yet.
This is going to be interesting to watch. He's intelligent, charming and likable, too bad that's all we know about him. Time will tell.
How about fleeing Iraq? Your opinion?
How about sending people that believe in the war, volunteers? You up for it?
60 Minutes just aired an interview by Steve Kroft with Obama.
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml)
He and his wife are certainly likable. It's going to be interesting to see what if any platform he runs on other than the Anti-Bush platform. I haven't heard any of his ideas yet and I don't think anyone has. His people probably haven't even formed their campaign strategy yet.
This is going to be interesting to watch. He's intelligent, charming and likable, too bad that's all we know about him. Time will tell.
We knew even less about Bush, ...and what we did know wasn't favourable. That didn't seem to be a hindrance.
No offense kids, but we're not leaving iraq. Ever. No matter who wins.
Ding Ding you are correct sir. So why bother bashing Bush? Isn't it a waste of time? The way I see it the next person and the next person and so on will keep us there. Will we just waste the next 50 years bashing the current president? Obama talks a good game but even as president he wouldn't be able to go alone and pull everyone. So lets just stop discussing it
Because there can be varying degrees of occupation.
Bush wants our men in the cities, in an exact ratio as we've had, growing 15% each year as the insurgency does. Goal is to continue the stalemate - neither crush them nor leave - just hang out and run up a 200 MILLION a day bill. That be some bullshit.
I want us to pull out of the cities and guard the bases, pipeline, and border. let the iraqis do their own job. keep your silly ass form getting shot.
and 240 my friend for the 100th time I agree with you on that. However you aren't heading to congress anytime soon. So your elected dems are not going to do anything smart like that.
well, if enough people talk about it, it will move up.
It's all about military spending. haliburton makes tens of millions a day because we're fighting in the cities. We'd need maybe 20k men (IF THAT) to guard the sand between the cities and the pipeline/bases.
They wont, cause war is good business.
How can you say this after trumpeting the rising costs of the war, and the supposed fiscal mismanagement of the Bush Administration?
ahhh you're getting there!
The govt, our nation, our social security - all going f'king broke by spending $200 million a day on the war.
the defense contractors (collectively called the mil. industrial complex) and war logistics firms are making a mint. The mil. ind. comp. and the Pentagon are very closely tied to one another - people often move in and out of positions in govt, and positions in these firms, as administrations change. Look at cheney's resume- when the repubs were in power, he worked in the white house/pentagon. When out, he worked for defense contractors. Many of the top guys do this. Rummy did it too.
Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that little bit of triviality up for me.
are you mocking that idea? berserker posted a great google movie 'why we fight' i think it was called. very clearly details eisenhower's warning about the mil. ind. complex, and very clearly details how they have profited from wars since and extended them for the sole purpose of gaining financially - even as this always means more dead.
once you realize there are a group of firms making good $ from us fighitng in the cities, and you realize these groups influence bush admin/pentagon, this little "stall" technique starts to make sense ;)
Uh huh, what better way to make a fortune than to fly a few platoons thousands of miles across the world to a derelict desert nation. I'd sure buy into your plan if I was President too. Or not.
PS. I'm not disputing that some firms are profiting from the liberation of Iraq.
these groups of defense contractors are making a lot of money. They are run by ex-generals and scientists who make money when there is spending on war machinery.
they have been there since WWII and they'll always be there.
Bush is surrounded by people who work/have worked for them.
Have they influenced him/ I dont know. What do you think?
I don't think Bush went into politics to become rich, there are better (and less scrutinised) ways of getting there. You'll probably laugh, and others worse, but I do think he is a good man.
I don't think Bush went into politics to become rich, there are better (and less scrutinised) ways of getting there. You'll probably laugh, and others worse, but I do think he is a good man.
I don't think Bush went into politics to become rich, there are better (and less scrutinised) ways of getting there. You'll probably laugh, and others worse, but I do think he is a good man.