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Title: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 02, 2007, 12:20:06 PM
Top bodybuilders allegedly received steroids from Internet pharmacy
By Joe Mahoney and T.J. Quinn

New York Daily News

(MCT)

It may shock no one to learn that two world champion bodybuilders may have been using steroids or growth hormone, but two giants of that well-muscled world were among the athletes who received drugs in a shady Internet pharmacy operation, sources have told the New York Daily News.

Eight-time Mr. Universe Ronnie Coleman, a former BALCO client, and top Mr. Universe contestant Victor Martinez were among the many clients in an ongoing, multistate investigation that led to the raids on several pharmacies in Florida this week, a source said. But like the other athletes whose names have been leaked, Coleman and Martinez are not targets.

"We know that thousands of people in New York alone have been getting steroids this way over the Internet," said a law enforcement official involved in the investigation. "But you have got to go after the source, and that is what we are doing."

Also Thursday, baseball officials said they want to talk to Albany County District Attorney David Soares about Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.'s alleged links to a pharmacy in Mobile, Ala., that is part of the investigation.

However, whether the subject is sources or users, the current investigation keeps overlapping with the more famous BALCO case from the San Francisco area. Coleman, listed among clients on the Web site for BALCO founder Victor Conte's nutritional business, shares the record for Mr. Olympia titles with fellow former BALCO client Lee Haney, who worked out with Evander Holyfield, one of the athletes reportedly connected to the newest raids. While both Coleman and Haney have ties to BALCO, neither was ever accused of receiving drugs from the lab.

Returning from Florida Thursday, Soares said as many as 24 people will be rounded up in the days ahead. Rather than finding a hero's welcome, however, Soares was immediately hit with criticism from local law enforcement officials over his tactics, and with complaints from local reporters that he had favored the Albany Times-Union with a scoop when the raids were carried out Tuesday.

In the days since the highly publicized raids and arrests of pharmacists, Albany cops have challenged Soares' claims that steroid abuse is a growing problem in upstate communities, and thus justified his decision to lead raids in Florida. Soares fired back Thursday, saying his police critics have "never focused on anything other than the guy they can pick up and make $500 of overtime on," a strategy he said has doomed the war on drugs.

"If every member of law enforcement in Albany County was focused on actually putting away criminals instead of arguing with each other and engaging in turf battles, we would have a reduction in the crime rate of about 50 percent," Soares said.

A source with knowledge of the probe said another one of the steroid customers is a supervisor with the Albany Police Department's narcotics squad. Albany cops have been among Soares' most vocal critics.

With Soares and about 2,000 pounds of confiscated documents arriving in Albany Thursday, sources said other pharmacies are soon to be raided, and several employees of Florida pharmacies are expected to surrender to authorities in Albany on Monday. But while Soares defended his decision to go after suppliers and not users, as is the case with most drug prosecutions, attention will remain on the documents and the names they may contain.

"You won't find another Barry Bonds, but there are some names people will know," a source close to the investigation said. But only if the documents are unsealed or if the names are leaked.  :)
The four people arrested Tuesday at Signature Compounding Pharmacy in Orlando - Stan and Naomi Loomis, Michael Loomis and Kirk Calvert - waived extradition Thursday and must surrender themselves in Albany by Thursday.

So far, the names of Holyfield - the former heavyweight boxing champion - Matthews, ex-major league pitcher Jason Grimsley and retired slugger Jose Canseco reportedly have been connected to Applied Pharmacy Services in Mobile.

Mobile-based DEA agents searched Applied in August with a federal warrant, and the Albany Times-Union reported Thursday that two Applied owners had been indicted by an Albany County grand jury. But Arthur Madden, an attorney for the pharmacy's owners, said he had not been told his clients are targets in the investigation or have been indicted.

"I know nothing about a New York State proceeding," he said. "I read this stuff with horrid fascination."

Madden said he doesn't know why his clients, Jason and Sam Kelley, would be targets.

"Applied is not an Internet pharmacy where you go online and fill out a form and some doctor writes a prescription," he said. "It's a real pharmacy, it's a brick and mortar place, it's regulated by the FDA and DEA. It's a licensed pharmacy that dispenses prescriptions written by real doctors."

Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: the shadow on March 02, 2007, 12:22:34 PM
hahahahhaha jeebus ain't gonna save him now..haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: dragonheart on March 02, 2007, 12:30:44 PM
All that tax money they are spending on those gay investigations could be going to much better uses (health care, murder investigations, recreational drug investigations, hell even iraq).  Id love to vote those fags out of office
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: gordiano on March 02, 2007, 12:37:43 PM
hahahahhaha jeebus ain't gonna save him now..haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


HAHAHAHA!



"hep mee jeezus!"
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: BuffD on March 02, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
Was watching ESPN and they mentioned this and already said that Ronnie Coleman WAS NOT a target.  So basically they could care less about him.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: HUGEPECS on March 02, 2007, 12:51:24 PM
Was watching ESPN and they mentioned this and already said that Ronnie Coleman WAS NOT a target.  So basically they could care less about him.




Coleman should also be a target. isn't he a world class athlete as well ;D
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: timfogarty on March 02, 2007, 12:52:25 PM
but he's not an eight time Mr Universe
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Wombat on March 02, 2007, 12:57:31 PM
Was watching ESPN and they mentioned this and already said that Ronnie Coleman WAS NOT a target.  So basically they could care less about him.


They say those types of things guys like Ronnie Coleman will just think he has nothing to worry about...Then his door will get busted down and his computer taken away...

Ronnie is too big a target for the whole Bodybuilding industry...If i had to guess, i would say that he already has been talking to the DEA and probably for awhile...

The Ifbb may have known this was gonna go down for some time...who knows...
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: DK II on March 02, 2007, 01:01:20 PM
Why do you post the same topic twice, True Assholis?
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Marty Champions on March 02, 2007, 01:01:46 PM
i hope ronnie and all the other pro bodybuilders who lie to the public , who stood as false heros all go to fuckin prison
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: HUGEPECS on March 02, 2007, 01:02:18 PM
but he's not an eight time Mr Universe


those motherfcukers at ESPN don't know the difference between Mr Universe and Mr Olympia, and I doubt they even give a shit. it's all the same to them
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: tom joad on March 02, 2007, 01:16:04 PM
i hope ronnie and all the other pro bodybuilders who lie to the public , who stood as false heros all go to fuckin prison

haha yes!!!
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 02, 2007, 01:29:15 PM
goddamn, how many pharmacies has jose canseco been a customer at?
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: The Squadfather on March 02, 2007, 01:32:06 PM
goddamn, how many pharmacies has jose canseco been a customer at?
hahahahaha, the sad thing is that his arms have never been over 16 inches in his life.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Sir William Idol on March 02, 2007, 01:33:21 PM
but he's not an eight time Mr Universe

you may want to check your sources, it was clearly stated in that espn report that he was
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 02, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
The amount of gear Ronnie would need for one cycle would be the equivalent of 10 males going on 5 or 6 years of HRT.. LOL
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: XXXII/LX on March 02, 2007, 02:00:25 PM
Was watching ESPN and they mentioned this and already said that Ronnie Coleman WAS NOT a target.  So basically they could care less about him.

COULDN'T CARE LESS!
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: DK II on March 02, 2007, 02:03:41 PM
i hope ronnie and all the other pro bodybuilders who lie to the public , who stood as false heros all go to fuckin prison

haha, totally agree.

Sending all bodybuilding pros to prison would be a great way to get bodybuilding drug free.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: WiseGuy on March 02, 2007, 05:19:02 PM
Top bodybuilders allegedly received steroids from Internet pharmacy
By Joe Mahoney and T.J. Quinn

New York Daily News

(MCT)

It may shock no one to learn that two world champion bodybuilders may have been using steroids or growth hormone, but two giants of that well-muscled world were among the athletes who received drugs in a shady Internet pharmacy operation, sources have told the New York Daily News.

Eight-time Mr. Universe Ronnie Coleman, a former BALCO client, and top Mr. Universe contestant Victor Martinez were among the many clients in an ongoing, multistate investigation that led to the raids on several pharmacies in Florida this week, a source said. But like the other athletes whose names have been leaked, Coleman and Martinez are not targets.

"We know that thousands of people in New York alone have been getting steroids this way over the Internet," said a law enforcement official involved in the investigation. "But you have got to go after the source, and that is what we are doing."

Also Thursday, baseball officials said they want to talk to Albany County District Attorney David Soares about Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.'s alleged links to a pharmacy in Mobile, Ala., that is part of the investigation.

However, whether the subject is sources or users, the current investigation keeps overlapping with the more famous BALCO case from the San Francisco area. Coleman, listed among clients on the Web site for BALCO founder Victor Conte's nutritional business, shares the record for Mr. Olympia titles with fellow former BALCO client Lee Haney, who worked out with Evander Holyfield, one of the athletes reportedly connected to the newest raids. While both Coleman and Haney have ties to BALCO, neither was ever accused of receiving drugs from the lab.

Returning from Florida Thursday, Soares said as many as 24 people will be rounded up in the days ahead. Rather than finding a hero's welcome, however, Soares was immediately hit with criticism from local law enforcement officials over his tactics, and with complaints from local reporters that he had favored the Albany Times-Union with a scoop when the raids were carried out Tuesday.

In the days since the highly publicized raids and arrests of pharmacists, Albany cops have challenged Soares' claims that steroid abuse is a growing problem in upstate communities, and thus justified his decision to lead raids in Florida. Soares fired back Thursday, saying his police critics have "never focused on anything other than the guy they can pick up and make $500 of overtime on," a strategy he said has doomed the war on drugs.

"If every member of law enforcement in Albany County was focused on actually putting away criminals instead of arguing with each other and engaging in turf battles, we would have a reduction in the crime rate of about 50 percent," Soares said.

A source with knowledge of the probe said another one of the steroid customers is a supervisor with the Albany Police Department's narcotics squad. Albany cops have been among Soares' most vocal critics.

With Soares and about 2,000 pounds of confiscated documents arriving in Albany Thursday, sources said other pharmacies are soon to be raided, and several employees of Florida pharmacies are expected to surrender to authorities in Albany on Monday. But while Soares defended his decision to go after suppliers and not users, as is the case with most drug prosecutions, attention will remain on the documents and the names they may contain.

"You won't find another Barry Bonds, but there are some names people will know," a source close to the investigation said. But only if the documents are unsealed or if the names are leaked.  :)
The four people arrested Tuesday at Signature Compounding Pharmacy in Orlando - Stan and Naomi Loomis, Michael Loomis and Kirk Calvert - waived extradition Thursday and must surrender themselves in Albany by Thursday.

So far, the names of Holyfield - the former heavyweight boxing champion - Matthews, ex-major league pitcher Jason Grimsley and retired slugger Jose Canseco reportedly have been connected to Applied Pharmacy Services in Mobile.

Mobile-based DEA agents searched Applied in August with a federal warrant, and the Albany Times-Union reported Thursday that two Applied owners had been indicted by an Albany County grand jury. But Arthur Madden, an attorney for the pharmacy's owners, said he had not been told his clients are targets in the investigation or have been indicted.

"I know nothing about a New York State proceeding," he said. "I read this stuff with horrid fascination."

Madden said he doesn't know why his clients, Jason and Sam Kelley, would be targets.

"Applied is not an Internet pharmacy where you go online and fill out a form and some doctor writes a prescription," he said. "It's a real pharmacy, it's a brick and mortar place, it's regulated by the FDA and DEA. It's a licensed pharmacy that dispenses prescriptions written by real doctors."



hahaha...my wife was freaking out since she buys hormones from signature pharmacy here in orlando....
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Rome on March 02, 2007, 06:51:55 PM
haha, totally agree.

Sending all bodybuilding pros to prison would be a great way to get bodybuilding drug free.
yeah, that would be just great!  ::) You think the crowds are small now, just wait and see how many people show up to watch a stage full of guys with swimmers builds doing muscle poses. Drugs are part of pro bodybuilding(and a lot of other pro sports) love it or leave it :)
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: onlyme on March 02, 2007, 09:35:46 PM
Apenis, why do you cut & paste so much shit.  Why do you try to make it look like you are telling us something new.  So far nothing you ever post is original news.  It is either old news or some shit you make up.  Son get back to the burger joint and make some money.  Quit pretending.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: youandme on March 02, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
Ok why is this even making the news now? Everyone nows people in sport take some kind of performance enhancement. They should at least make headlines out of the people who look least likely to be taking them, like the baseball outfielders, and Danny bonduce(sp)
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: onlyme on March 02, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
hahah meltdown #432,533,667

Jeez you get dumber with each post.  At least know when to put "meltdown".  Expand your vocabulary.  It's getting old.  And to let you know, you can't meltdown someone when you are inferior.  But keep trying, it's funny as hell.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: GoneAway on March 02, 2007, 11:42:44 PM
Coleman's not a target. Good news for him and us to an extent. Question is: why wasn't he targetted? You know for a fact he uses just by looking at him. That should be warrant enough. I'm guessing there's something we don't know about that's stopping the feds from investigating.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on March 02, 2007, 11:44:22 PM
I'm sick and tired of seeing peacefull heroin, nubain, cocaine, and crystal meth dealers being put through the ringer. It's the bodybuilders that are robbing liquor stores, murdering, and creating mayhem nationwide.

Correct.  I'm calling you Big Brain Bob.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: midwaymonster on March 03, 2007, 05:59:22 AM
Coleman's not a target. Good news for him and us to an extent. Question is: why wasn't he targetted? You know for a fact he uses just by looking at him. That should be warrant enough. I'm guessing there's something we don't know about that's stopping the feds from investigating.
As far as Ronnie or any other person getting gear from these companys they were doing it legal. Blood work, scripts, RX no.s, just like any other med you would get from your doctor. So for them it was legal, the doctors were the ones who may have broken the laws.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: GoneAway on March 03, 2007, 06:26:46 AM
As far as Ronnie or any other person getting gear from these companys they were doing it legal. Blood work, scripts, RX no.s, just like any other med you would get from your doctor. So for them it was legal, the doctors were the ones who may have broken the laws.

Good point.
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: BigSexy50 on March 03, 2007, 06:43:37 AM
Its really funny, your obssession with bodybuilding drugs is so evident to all of us, your curiosity with pinning your self is what you think of as you fall asleep, and it is what wakes you up in the morning.  Seriously, go the fuck away.

Top bodybuilders allegedly received steroids from Internet pharmacy
By Joe Mahoney and T.J. Quinn

New York Daily News

(MCT)

It may shock no one to learn that two world champion bodybuilders may have been using steroids or growth hormone, but two giants of that well-muscled world were among the athletes who received drugs in a shady Internet pharmacy operation, sources have told the New York Daily News.

Eight-time Mr. Universe Ronnie Coleman, a former BALCO client, and top Mr. Universe contestant Victor Martinez were among the many clients in an ongoing, multistate investigation that led to the raids on several pharmacies in Florida this week, a source said. But like the other athletes whose names have been leaked, Coleman and Martinez are not targets.

"We know that thousands of people in New York alone have been getting steroids this way over the Internet," said a law enforcement official involved in the investigation. "But you have got to go after the source, and that is what we are doing."

Also Thursday, baseball officials said they want to talk to Albany County District Attorney David Soares about Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.'s alleged links to a pharmacy in Mobile, Ala., that is part of the investigation.

However, whether the subject is sources or users, the current investigation keeps overlapping with the more famous BALCO case from the San Francisco area. Coleman, listed among clients on the Web site for BALCO founder Victor Conte's nutritional business, shares the record for Mr. Olympia titles with fellow former BALCO client Lee Haney, who worked out with Evander Holyfield, one of the athletes reportedly connected to the newest raids. While both Coleman and Haney have ties to BALCO, neither was ever accused of receiving drugs from the lab.

Returning from Florida Thursday, Soares said as many as 24 people will be rounded up in the days ahead. Rather than finding a hero's welcome, however, Soares was immediately hit with criticism from local law enforcement officials over his tactics, and with complaints from local reporters that he had favored the Albany Times-Union with a scoop when the raids were carried out Tuesday.

In the days since the highly publicized raids and arrests of pharmacists, Albany cops have challenged Soares' claims that steroid abuse is a growing problem in upstate communities, and thus justified his decision to lead raids in Florida. Soares fired back Thursday, saying his police critics have "never focused on anything other than the guy they can pick up and make $500 of overtime on," a strategy he said has doomed the war on drugs.

"If every member of law enforcement in Albany County was focused on actually putting away criminals instead of arguing with each other and engaging in turf battles, we would have a reduction in the crime rate of about 50 percent," Soares said.

A source with knowledge of the probe said another one of the steroid customers is a supervisor with the Albany Police Department's narcotics squad. Albany cops have been among Soares' most vocal critics.

With Soares and about 2,000 pounds of confiscated documents arriving in Albany Thursday, sources said other pharmacies are soon to be raided, and several employees of Florida pharmacies are expected to surrender to authorities in Albany on Monday. But while Soares defended his decision to go after suppliers and not users, as is the case with most drug prosecutions, attention will remain on the documents and the names they may contain.

"You won't find another Barry Bonds, but there are some names people will know," a source close to the investigation said. But only if the documents are unsealed or if the names are leaked.  :)
The four people arrested Tuesday at Signature Compounding Pharmacy in Orlando - Stan and Naomi Loomis, Michael Loomis and Kirk Calvert - waived extradition Thursday and must surrender themselves in Albany by Thursday.

So far, the names of Holyfield - the former heavyweight boxing champion - Matthews, ex-major league pitcher Jason Grimsley and retired slugger Jose Canseco reportedly have been connected to Applied Pharmacy Services in Mobile.

Mobile-based DEA agents searched Applied in August with a federal warrant, and the Albany Times-Union reported Thursday that two Applied owners had been indicted by an Albany County grand jury. But Arthur Madden, an attorney for the pharmacy's owners, said he had not been told his clients are targets in the investigation or have been indicted.

"I know nothing about a New York State proceeding," he said. "I read this stuff with horrid fascination."

Madden said he doesn't know why his clients, Jason and Sam Kelley, would be targets.

"Applied is not an Internet pharmacy where you go online and fill out a form and some doctor writes a prescription," he said. "It's a real pharmacy, it's a brick and mortar place, it's regulated by the FDA and DEA. It's a licensed pharmacy that dispenses prescriptions written by real doctors."


Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: gtbro1 on March 03, 2007, 06:50:42 AM
As far as Ronnie or any other person getting gear from these companys they were doing it legal. Blood work, scripts, RX no.s, just like any other med you would get from your doctor. So for them it was legal, the doctors were the ones who may have broken the laws.

Where ya gona find a Doc to cut you a script for 4000 mg of test a week?  ???
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: ThaRealist on March 03, 2007, 06:55:03 AM
Where ya gona find a Doc to cut you a script for 4000 mg of test a week?  ???

I do know Doctors in Florida that are writing guys scripts for 50ml of test 250 per month.......
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: gtbro1 on March 03, 2007, 07:42:43 AM
I do know Doctors in Florida that are writing guys scripts for 50ml of test 250 per month.......

    :-\  How can they justify that?
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: HERACLES on March 03, 2007, 08:09:14 AM
Great thread/find TA.

Its so pathetic, these investigators are worried and consumed with shit like this, rather than other drugs....

Pathetic...and like its gonna make anyone think anyless of Ronnie? haha..or Victor? I guess the clueless society it will be a shock, that 8 time "Mr universe" haha was involved...too funny!

What up RONNIE!!!! Just look at is as publicity with your name!  8)
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Wombat on March 03, 2007, 10:40:02 PM
Great thread/find TA.

Its so pathetic, these investigators are worried and consumed with shit like this, rather than other drugs....

Pathetic...and like its gonna make anyone think anyless of Ronnie? haha..or Victor? I guess the clueless society it will be a shock, that 8 time "Mr universe" haha was involved...too funny!

What up RONNIE!!!! Just look at is as publicity with your name!  8)

yes but that clueless society are the ones that seen him dressed in a cops uniform everyday when he ate at the outback ect.....Their are pictures of him all around his police station...Most in his community think the guys natural...As silly as that sounds to us..

Ronnie has alot of lose in all this IMOP...His career is coming to an end and this could be something that really hurts him...That is if the feds make him out to be the Barry Bonds of bodybuilding...
Title: Re: BODYBUILDERS WITH PRESCRIPTIONS under Investigation.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 03, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Here's the problem, it's not up to the athlete to verify if the pharmacy is legit, if they tell him/her to get a blood test first, then writes him/her a script with there name on it and the pharmacy name and number on the box, as far as the athlete or bodybuilder is concerned, it's legit!