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Title: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: dodster on March 09, 2007, 06:16:59 AM
i havent been on here for a while, but this shit talker was pwnd last time i was here for having spider monkey arms, being a tranny , and being fucked in the head. He was a complete joke, now he has come out with some principles??? Now i heard of the book of"Klaus, the great one", but i did read into this before being confused. Wat the fuck r they in bullet points?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: jaejonna on March 09, 2007, 06:19:46 AM
-a calorie is a calorie
-calories are all you need to getbig
-500 calories of Chicken = 500 Calories of Cherry Garcia
-Too Easy
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 09, 2007, 06:21:48 AM
As far as I have read they are:
1. Eat whatever you like in a calorie deficit
2. No cardio but do weight training
3. Protein is overated
4. Saturated fats are not unhealthy
5. All other bb diets are stupid despite the great physiques they have helped produce for decades ::)

Anyone feel free to update this list....
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 09, 2007, 06:22:40 AM
-a calorie is a calorie
-calories are all you need to getbig
-500 calories of Chicken = 500 Calories of Cherry Garcia
-Too Easy


Thanks forgot about those two ;D
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: nycbull on March 09, 2007, 06:23:03 AM
-drugs are bad, ruin your looks.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ButtonMan on March 09, 2007, 06:24:42 AM
The way to enlightment ...........
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 09, 2007, 06:25:19 AM
Multi-vitamins are not neccessary for optimum health ::)
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: chainsaw on March 09, 2007, 06:29:07 AM
Adonis Principles,

Lie about you're lifts, and never post the promised video's.
Lure unsuspecting lifters into eating junk, it makes you feel good
Say you're gonna fight someone, and puuussy out!
OH, and you must dress up Like Hitler, cause you're an idiot trying to be tough.

Oh, you must be the biggest internet Hardass, since in person, you are a weasel

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Rimbaud on March 09, 2007, 06:33:22 AM
As far as I have read they are:
1. Eat whatever you like in a calorie deficit
2. No cardio but do weight training
3. Protein is overated
4. Saturated fats are not unhealthy
5. All other bb diets are stupid despite the great physiques they have helped produce for decades ::)

Anyone feel free to update this list....

You forgot to add that processed foods are actually very very healthy according to him.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: dodster on March 09, 2007, 06:35:14 AM
ive jus read adonis eats 2900 cals a week. I thought the daily avg for a man is 2500??? but then again wat is he? Wats the pt of starving urself? id just rather eat clean than 1 mcdonalds a day
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 06:36:59 AM
ive jus read adonis eats 2900 cals a week. I thought the daily avg for a man is 2500??? but then again wat is he? Wats the pt of starving urself? id just rather eat clean than 1 mcdonalds a day
Is it too late to pull him out of the matrix? He seems fairly young.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 09, 2007, 06:47:23 AM
Eating 3 bigger meals a day is just as effective for fat loss as spreading out those meals into 5-6 smaller meals.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: dodster on March 09, 2007, 07:01:26 AM
i dont think he is for real- i think someone said he lures unsuspecting lifters into eating junk to make himself feel better that he might be ruining other physiques. Has he tried to cut up the normal way? or was junk food too irresistible for him? Its true though that a lot of naturals dont use a lot of the protein they eat, if u on roids then u cant eat enuf of the stuff, but thats common knowlegde it aint somethin this tool has jus discovered!
I think he shud hit the juice and do it heavy 2x the normal dosage for twice as long then utilise his principles!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:03:21 AM
i dont think he is for real- i think someone said he lures unsuspecting lifters into eating junk to make himself feel better that he might be ruining other physiques. Has he tried to cut up the normal way? or was junk food too irresistible for him? Its true though that a lot of naturals dont use a lot of the protein they eat, if u on roids then u cant eat enuf of the stuff, but thats common knowlegde it aint somethin this tool has jus discovered!
I think he shud hit the juice and do it heavy 2x the normal dosage for twice as long then utilise his principles!
Hahahahah let me tell you how delusional everyone is around here. Once you get to a certain stage of leaness you can really keep track of how all this stuff effects you. I had half a cocunut cream pie and a box of oreos before lifting this week and i haven't gained an ounce of fat. I still weigh the same.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 09, 2007, 07:03:45 AM
- have nutthuggers and losers make every thread mention the Adonis name 5 pages
- meltdown all rookie weight lifters who believe FLEX is the gospel of truth
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:09:37 AM
Hahahahah let me tell you how delusional everyone is around here. Once you get to a certain stage of leaness you can really keep track of how all this stuff effects you. I had half a cocunut cream pie and a box of oreos before lifting this week and i haven't gained an ounce of fat. I still weigh the same.
let me tell you how delusional you are, your a noob, your name is a porn star alas and you don't know how the body works. I'll help you.

it is called a metabolism. Google it fucker.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:10:47 AM
it is called a metabolism. Google it fucker.


Nonsense.... i have been as fat as adonis if not fatter. You have to WORK your ass off to get fat. I do not have a fast metabolism. In fact i think it is fairly slow as i got obese on 3500 cals a day.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:16:04 AM
Nonsense.... i have been as fat as adonis if not fatter. You have to WORK your ass off to get fat. I do not have a fast metabolism. In fact i think it is fairly slow as i got obese on 3500 cals a day.

ok when your done sucking your dad's dick, call up your doctor and ask to be what a metabolism is. When he is finished laughing at you. Come back here and cry
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:17:16 AM
ok when your done sucking your dad's dick, call up your doctor and ask to be what a metabolism is. When he is finished laughing at you. Come back here and cry
Read a 3rd grade grammar book and when you are done crying come post on getbig.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:23:42 AM
adonis principles are a joke. Have you even attended a biology class? Hell have you even read up on any study done by Universities on nutrition? Didn't think so. Science of Nutrition it a program you can take when you finish Elementry School. Look into it.  OWned!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:25:02 AM
adonis principles are a joke. Have you even attended a biology class? Hell have you even read up on any study done by Universities on nutrition? Didn't think so. Science of Nutrition it a program you can take when you finish Elementry School. Look into it.  OWned!
Hahahahha your getbig screen name is no joke. A calorie is a way to measure energy. That is all a calorie is. You are only owning yourself by continuing this argument.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: wolfgang187 on March 09, 2007, 07:25:23 AM
Dear Get Big,

  You're about to discover the most delusional and pathological liar on the internet today.  This man is claiming to have developed principles of diet programs fitness models for bodybuilders to reach single digit body fat levels.  Now on top of that he will private message and tell you for a fee he will get you into shape.

  Over the past 9 years, through a long and painstaking process of trial, error, Adonis has done only a internet bodybuilding show and took second place. Now he asks for money because he's claiming to have a surefire system for losing body fat,  based on  no known education or training in nutrition or competitive bodybuilding experience with in the fitness industry.


   The True Adonis is a grifter on the internet, who will manipulate the web community and find a mark into his tricks or dishonest plan. Sometimes Adonis will rely on naive individuals who put their confidence in to his schemes, such as "too good to be true" claims. It may take months for the wider community to discover that such claims are bogus, and usually it is too late, as many people have lost time and money.



Thank You

Wolfgang
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:29:00 AM
Dear Get Big,

  You're about to discover the most delusional and pathological liar on the internet today.  This man is claiming to have developed principles of diet programs fitness models for bodybuilders to reach single digit body fat levels.  Now on top of that he will private message and tell you for a fee he will get you into shape.

  Over the past 9 years, through a long and painstaking process of trial, error, Adonis has done only a internet bodybuilding show and took second place. Now he asks for money because he's claiming to have a surefire system for losing body fat,  based on  no known education or training in nutrition or competitive bodybuilding experience with in the fitness industry.


   The True Adonis is a grifter on the internet, who will manipulate the web community and find a mark into his tricks or dishonest plan. Sometimes Adonis will rely on naive individuals who put their confidence in to his schemes, such as "too good to be true" claims. It may take months for the wider community to discover that such claims are bogus, and usually it is too late, as many people have lost time and money.



Thank You

Wolfgang

Epic attempt to discredit someone. You cannot ignore science. I have gotten into single digits using the calorie is a calorie principle. You don't have to be miserable.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:36:47 AM
Maybe to you a calorie is just a way to measure energy, to myself and others a calorie is much more; it's one piece of the puzzle to make our muscles grow. It means the difference between getting the maximum growth potential or coming up short (like you do whenever your boyfriend wants anal sex). Listen Nib, Your obession for Adonis cock is only going to make you crazy, give it up.

On another note, if adonis principles [a theory] were true, where are the findings? Why hasn't a University handed Adonis a $25,000 research grant? Why is it Arnold got so big when he was at 18 years of age and Adonis is 20+ and still looks like shit?

When your brother is finished ramming the toilet plumber up your ass reply, to all these questions fucker.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ButtonMan on March 09, 2007, 07:37:52 AM
Maybe to you a calorie is just a way to measure energy, to myself and others a calorie is much more; it's one piece of the puzzle to make our muscles grow. It means the difference between getting the maximum growth potential or coming up short (like you do whenever your boyfriend wants anal sex). Listen Nib, Your obession for Adonis cock is only going to make you crazy, give it up.

On another note, if adonis principles [a theory] were true, where are the findings? Why hasn't a University handed Adonis a $25,000 research grant? Why is it Arnold got so big when he was at 18 years of age and Adonis is 20+ and still looks like shit?

When your brother is finished ramming the toilet plumber up your ass reply, to all he questions fucker.



Boring ......................
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: wolfgang187 on March 09, 2007, 07:38:28 AM
Epic attempt to discredit someone. You cannot ignore science. I have gotten into single digits using the calorie is a calorie principle. You don't have to be miserable.


ANOTHER ANUS GIMMICK ACCOUNT!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:40:15 AM
Maybe to you a calorie is just a way to measure energy, to myself and others a calorie is much more; it's one piece of the puzzle to make our muscles grow. It means the difference between getting the maximum growth potential or coming up short (like you do whenever your boyfriend wants anal sex). Listen Nib, Your obession for Adonis cock is only going to make you crazy, give it up.

On another note, if adonis principles [a theory] were true, where are the findings? Why hasn't a University handed Adonis a $25,000 research grant? Why is it Arnold got so big when he was at 18 years of age and Adonis is 20+ and still looks like shit?

When your brother is finished ramming the toilet plumber up your ass reply, to all he questions fucker.


An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source then a chicken breast. Gram for Gram an oreo cookie has more energy potential then a chicken breast or rice or baked potatoe. The study has been printed but i don't know where it is. I'll let adonis pull it up for you. How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep. People are soo silly that they let themselves suffer. Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural. Use your fucking brain. Your screeen name really does depict alot about you.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:41:06 AM

ANOTHER ANUS GIMMICK ACCOUNT!
Ignorance is bliss isnt it?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:43:03 AM
Adonis principles = no scientific proof / evidence

Your claim are as true as MuscleTechs Products.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:45:43 AM
Adonis principles = no scientific proof / evidence

Your claim are as true as MuscleTechs Products.
There have been studies published on it. Just recently one was done.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 09, 2007, 07:46:11 AM
I'm going to go out on limb and presume that Ignorance smokes the cock like it's his job
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: pobrecito on March 09, 2007, 07:47:17 AM
An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source then a chicken breast. Gram for Gram an oreo cookie has more energy potential then a chicken breast or rice or baked potatoe. The study has been printed but i don't know where it is. I'll let adonis pull it up for you. How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep. People are soo silly that they let themselves suffer. Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural. Use your fucking brain. Your screeen name really does depict alot about you.

Uhh...ever heard of satiety?

Adonis can have 2 oreos while I can have a plate full of food WITH the occasional oreo, cake, ice cream, etc.

Adonis' "principles" are nothing new, but what is fact, is that his method does not work for adding muscle.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 09, 2007, 07:47:21 AM
I'm going to go out on limb and presume that Ignorance smokes the cock like it's his job
hahahahahaahaha, yes Broad Street, "ignorance" is quite the little blowjob expert.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: tweeter on March 09, 2007, 07:47:47 AM
Dear Get Big,

  You're about to discover the most delusional and pathological liar on the internet today.  This man is claiming to have developed principles of diet programs fitness models for bodybuilders to reach single digit body fat levels.  Now on top of that he will private message and tell you for a fee he will get you into shape.

  Over the past 9 years, through a long and painstaking process of trial, error, Adonis has done only a internet bodybuilding show and took second place. Now he asks for money because he's claiming to have a surefire system for losing body fat,  based on  no known education or training in nutrition or competitive bodybuilding experience with in the fitness industry.


   The True Adonis is a grifter on the internet, who will manipulate the web community and find a mark into his tricks or dishonest plan. Sometimes Adonis will rely on naive individuals who put their confidence in to his schemes, such as "too good to be true" claims. It may take months for the wider community to discover that such claims are bogus, and usually it is too late, as many people have lost time and money.



Thank You

Wolfgang

Adonis doesn't charge anyone; he just likes to help people out.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 07:50:21 AM
Uhh...ever heard of satiety?

Adonis can have 2 oreos while I can have a plate full of food WITH the occasional oreo, cake, ice cream, etc.

Adonis' "principles" are nothing new, but what is fact, is that his method does not work for adding muscle.

Why just 2? I ate a whole box and had the best work out ive had in a while.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 09, 2007, 07:52:43 AM
An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source then a chicken breast. Gram for Gram an oreo cookie has more energy potential then a chicken breast or rice or baked potatoe. The study has been printed but i don't know where it is. I'll let adonis pull it up for you. How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep. People are soo silly that they let themselves suffer. Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural. Use your fucking brain. Your screeen name really does depict alot about you.

How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep?
A] Carb depletion

Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural.
A] Arnold was natural for a good portion of his life, no one knows when he started to use steriods, but you can get a good time frame just looking at his pictures from year to year.
As for Adonis, he has claimed to use pro-hormones during the Getbig.com 2006 contest.

An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source.
A] if your trying to giving yourself health problems. Listen that one oreo cookie also has simple carbs attached with it. a Chicken Breast doesn't. Your trying to play down the rest of the facts like nutrition by saying a oreo is better than a chicken breast. But all your looking at is the calories, why don't you look at all the aspects of the oreo and you will come down to the conclusion that a chciken breast is healthier and far more efficient in giving what the body wants, not what some noob on the web says.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: pobrecito on March 09, 2007, 07:53:56 AM
Why just 2? I ate a whole box and had the best work out ive had in a while.

...and how many calories is that whole box?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Andre Nickatina on March 09, 2007, 07:54:03 AM
I hope all you twats who support the "Adonis principles" actually apply them lol . fucking idiots. ill laugh when you die of a heart attack at the age of 40 . haahah
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Andre Nickatina on March 09, 2007, 07:56:54 AM
Why dont we just rename them the "Diabetes Principles?" lol you Adonis gimmicks make me laugh.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 08:09:07 AM
...and how many calories is that whole box?

about 2400-3000.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Dingleberry on March 09, 2007, 09:49:32 AM
Here is a compiled list with a couple of my own -

1. a calorie is a calorie
2. calories are all you need to get big
3. 500 calories of Chicken = 500 Calories of Cherry Garcia
4. Eat whatever you like in a calorie deficit
5. No cardio but do weight training
6. Protein is overrated
7. Saturated fats are not unhealthy
8. All other bb diets are stupid despite the great physiques they have helped produce for decades
9. Lie about your lifts, and never post the promised videos
10. If you post pictures of heavy lifts, make sure they're blurry so they can't be verified.
11. Juice yourself to the gills, and then when you diet and still look small, claim you are a lifetime natural.
12. In reality, don't use any of the above principles. Use proven principles and run gear. Tell people you use the above principles in an attempt to fool them into thinking you have superior genetics and are gifted.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 09, 2007, 09:53:45 AM
How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep?
A] Carb depletion

Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural.
A] Arnold was natural for a good portion of his life, no one knows when he started to use steriods, but you can get a good time frame just looking at his pictures from year to year.
As for Adonis, he has claimed to use pro-hormones during the Getbig.com 2006 contest.

An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source.
A] if your trying to giving yourself health problems. Listen that one oreo cookie also has simple carbs attached with it. a Chicken Breast doesn't. Your trying to play down the rest of the facts like nutrition by saying a oreo is better than a chicken breast. But all your looking at is the calories, why don't you look at all the aspects of the oreo and you will come down to the conclusion that a chciken breast is healthier and far more efficient in giving what the body wants, not what some noob on the web says.
When are you going to delete you account? Arnold was natural for a good portion of his life? Rofl.... delusional as the day is long. Do you wear hot pink brazillian cut posing trunks with sequens when you compete too? Or do you just pretend to be in shape and try to discredit the truth with gym science?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: XFACTOR on March 09, 2007, 10:13:16 AM
How do you think mike mentzer ate danishes for his contest prep?
A] Carb depletion

Arnold was big because he was taking Dbol dipshit. Adonis is natural.
A] Arnold was natural for a good portion of his life, no one knows when he started to use steriods, but you can get a good time frame just looking at his pictures from year to year.
As for Adonis, he has claimed to use pro-hormones during the Getbig.com 2006 contest.

An oreo cookie is much more efficient an energy source.
A] if your trying to giving yourself health problems. Listen that one oreo cookie also has simple carbs attached with it. a Chicken Breast doesn't. Your trying to play down the rest of the facts like nutrition by saying a oreo is better than a chicken breast. But all your looking at is the calories, why don't you look at all the aspects of the oreo and you will come down to the conclusion that a chciken breast is healthier and far more efficient in giving what the body wants, not what some noob on the web says.

Aside from the Arnold being natural comment. You are right on here.  This pretty much disproves the Adonis guy.  I have thought this for a long time, he never considers actual nutrition and being healthy.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: leonp1981 on March 09, 2007, 10:18:37 AM
I have thought this for a long time, he never considers actual nutrition and being healthy.

Correct, all this junk food nonsense.  That guy Tweeter who is TA's case study is barely taking in enough protein to maintain his muscle, let alone add some.  All the calories in the world can't build muscle.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: XFACTOR on March 09, 2007, 10:27:14 AM
Correct, all this junk food nonsense.  That guy Tweeter who is TA's case study is barely taking in enough protein to maintain his muscle, let alone add some.  All the calories in the world can't build muscle.

Who the hell wants to eat all that crap and feel shitty?  Actually I would really put it out there and say eating this bad is just as bad as juicing.  You have all the same factors to consider, heart disease, high cholesterol, high bp, etc...
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: natural al on March 09, 2007, 10:34:16 AM
Why just 2? I ate a whole box and had the best work out ive had in a while.

this is an honest question...how old are you? 
Title: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:02:46 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Fury on March 12, 2007, 01:04:03 PM
270 pounds! hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 01:04:18 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.
hahahahaha, 270 pounds for deadlifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what an animal!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: youandme on March 12, 2007, 01:04:29 PM
You gonna sue him?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: chainsaw on March 12, 2007, 01:08:59 PM
Should have known better than to follow that guys advice.  He's an idiot!
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 01:11:03 PM
You deadlifted. So what.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 01:12:24 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.
How can you blame that on him?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Ozzy on March 12, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
Deadlifts = suck
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 01:15:25 PM
How can you blame that on him?

I wouldn`t advise him even if I was paid.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 12, 2007, 01:16:04 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.

Why not blame the York Barbell company  ???
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Jerryme7 on March 12, 2007, 01:16:32 PM
EL Mariachi...you should have consulted a physician before doing any type of physical regimen ;)

Even the Body For Life program and Metrx program states that
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: ButtonMan on March 12, 2007, 01:17:31 PM
Are you sure this isn't you "El Mariachi" ..................

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Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 01:18:44 PM
Are you sure this isn't you "El Mariachi" ..................

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Hahahah is he the one in orange folding his lips back repeatidly chanting in his head im not gay.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: ButtonMan on March 12, 2007, 01:20:07 PM
Hahahah is he the one in orange folding his lips back repeatidly chanting in his head im not gay.

He trying to eat the other guys shoe with his rectum .............
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: donrhummy on March 12, 2007, 01:21:03 PM
I don't get it. How is this True Adonis' fault? Look, I think the guy's a bit of a joke but c'mon, you stupidly lifted (likely with poor form) and hurt yourself. That's YOUR fault.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: wes mantooth on March 12, 2007, 01:30:12 PM
Deadlifts = suck

??????

how do deadlifts suck?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Devon97 on March 12, 2007, 01:33:42 PM
The DEADLIFT is something you NEED when you are cutting.

On another note... why do you LOAD up on carbs and protein PRE workout if you are going to sweat it all out later?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:38:38 PM
I don't get it. How is this True Adonis' fault? Look, I think the guy's a bit of a joke but c'mon, you stupidly lifted (likely with poor form) and hurt yourself. That's YOUR fault.

i appriciate all the gestures and care guys, but dont worry ill be as good as new in a couple of days, its no serious ingery.  it could always get worse, like this case of human astronomy.

-dombo ears
- flat nasty case of foot
-bow-legged
- wide hips
- bullethole-adamsappel
- chicken legs
- elbows sticking yout like a katapult
-chicken breast
- bad haircut

i see palumboism-potential.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:40:03 PM
The DEADLIFT is something you NEED when you are cutting.

On another note... why do you LOAD up on carbs and protein PRE workout if you are going to sweat it all out later?

why not. an empty stomach destroys your concentration.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The Heckler on March 12, 2007, 01:41:56 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.

When you contracted HIV from having multiple sex partners in your local bath house, did you sue the owner of the bath house?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:45:54 PM
haha adonis/heckler this is getting pathetic, you need to sue your doctor for your schizophrenia.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Hedgehog on March 12, 2007, 01:46:28 PM
I wouldn`t advise him even if I was paid.

Just curious Abeles, have you ever been paid by any of your clients?

-Hedge
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Army of One on March 12, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
Recent pic of TA:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=133985.0;attach=149615;image)

AWESOME BONE MASS!!!
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:47:24 PM
Just wait till you see my legs.

ahahahahahah
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The Heckler on March 12, 2007, 01:50:20 PM
haha adonis/heckler this is getting pathetic, you need to sue your doctor for your schizophrenia.

You never answered my question.  Have you entertained the idea of suing the owner the bath house where you first contracted HIV?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: haider on March 12, 2007, 01:52:59 PM
What do you think of the TA principles?
Same opinion u have of bodybuildingpro.com ;)
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 01:55:26 PM
You never answered my question.  Have you entertained the idea of suing the owner the bath house where you first contracted HIV?

ill sue the guy. i have to.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: haider on March 12, 2007, 02:12:17 PM

hahahaha!!  Are you saying "The Heckler" thinks the principles are the shit and considers it his own creation?
I guess what Im saying is that you're one morbidly obese son of a bitch. The adonis principles will help u acheive the 3-4% bodymusclefat levels necessary to look like a steamin pile of shit for the look of ancient greek bodily ideals.  8)
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Stavios on March 12, 2007, 02:18:37 PM
stop being a pussy El Doritos
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: dr.chimps on March 12, 2007, 02:54:42 PM
stop being a pussy El Doritos
Hehe. Wasn't he the guy who broke a rib leg pressing, or something. I mean, how in the world does that happen? 
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
Hehe. Wasn't he the guy who broke a rib leg pressing, or something. I mean, how in the world does that happen? 

i wanted to use the benefit of full range of motion, just like dorian in blood and guts. but i think i overdid it.it was like quads to the ribs legpress, you can call it like that. but every problem has its benefits. atleast now i can focuse on squats. the rib is fine with the squats.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 03:01:44 PM
i wanted to use the benefit of full range of motion, just like dorian in blood and guts. but i think i overdid it.it was like quads to the ribs legpress, you can call it like that. but every problem has its benefits. atleast now i can focuse on squats. the rib is fine with the squats.
but i never said i broke my rib, its just painful and bruised from the heavy pressure.

Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 03:02:27 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift. A lot of guys get injured because of this exercise. Its garbage, you can train your lowerback safer with other excersisez.


Im cutting right now, but still my power in the gym is increasing. Im very brutal right now. sitting at around 198 pounds with 9 % bodyfat.  Im not the kind of man when dieting, to train like a pussy, i load up with carbs and protein before a brutal workout and then do a hour of cardio to sweat it out.

WTF are you talking about? Your back is screwed up because you attempted a heavy weight for a person who does not deadlift. Probably arched your back right?
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Bast000 on March 12, 2007, 03:03:23 PM
i wanted to use the benefit of full range of motion, just like dorian in blood and guts. but i think i overdid it.it was like quads to the ribs legpress, you can call it like that. but every problem has its benefits. atleast now i can focuse on squats. the rib is fine with the squats.

that son of a bitch Adonis never warned anybody.  >:(
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 03:04:32 PM
Did you scream "yeahhh budday!" or "light weight!" before you started? Its VERY important ;D
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 03:05:08 PM
Indeed.

Even though I invented the Deadlift and the Deadlift Challenge, I DO NOT take responsibility for anyone`s stupidity or injury.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 03:07:15 PM
just wait till you see my ribs
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 12, 2007, 03:08:22 PM
THERE r no studies done for or by Adonis on his theory. So until some real shit gets posted all the cock suckers that follow adonis lifestyle Are morons and idiots for thinking that way about his diet. While he is at it, why doesn't he calm to take Muscle-tech products as well.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Bast000 on March 12, 2007, 03:08:40 PM
El Mariachi, with your 13 inch fat arms and your lats being as developed as a 15 year old female, you should probably be deadlifting 125lbs to avoid injury.

Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 03:09:08 PM
Indeed.

Even though I invented the Deadlift and the Deadlift Challenge, I DO NOT take responsibility for anyone`s stupidity or injury.


hahahah so you invented the deadlift? hahaha i bet The Heckler had a huge grinn on his face when he told you to type that ahahah
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: phyxsius on March 12, 2007, 03:09:36 PM
When you contracted HIV from having multiple sex partners in your local bath house, did you sue the owner of the bath house?

He probably sued his mother for having a weak back
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: triple_pickle on March 12, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
Well i loaded 270 pounds on the deadlift and at 13th rep i fucked up my back. Thanks a lot Fagonis. Your principles are useless, so is the deadlift....

there's nothing to blame but you.  start taking responsibility for your actions, you whiny little bitch.
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 03:12:09 PM
there's nothing to blame but you.  start taking responsibility for your actions, you little whiny bitch.


hahahha you americans are so fuckin stupid, im using the adonis-principles, just to give this thread the attention it deserves, ahahahaha

Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: ignorance on March 12, 2007, 03:15:49 PM
I'm not American, I'm Irish fuck nut
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Knives on March 12, 2007, 03:22:11 PM
Just curious Abeles, have you ever been paid by any of your clients?

-Hedge

not in money
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 12, 2007, 03:23:06 PM
I'm not American, I'm Irish fuck nut

whats the difference
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 03:32:46 PM
Diet, exercise take off equal pounds, study finds
Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:27am ET
 
Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April.

They tested 24 people, 12 who ate a calorie-restricted diet, and 12 who dieted and also exercised five times a week for six months.

The dieters ate 25 percent less than normal, while the exercisers reduced their calorie intake by 12.5 percent and increased their physical activity to lose an extra 12.5 percent in calories.

Another 10 volunteers acted as controls. All food was provided by the university in carefully measured portions for most of the study.

The volunteers in both groups lost about 10 percent of their body weight, 24 percent of their fat mass, and 27 percent of their abdominal visceral fat. Visceral fat is packed in between the internal organs and is considered the most dangerous type of fat, linked with heart disease and diabetes.


The distribution of the fat on the body was not altered by either approach -- helping prove that there is no such thing as "spot reducing", Ravussin said in a telephone interview.

This suggests that "individuals are genetically programmed for fat storage in a particular pattern and that this programming cannot easily be overcome," he added.

Ravussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight.

"If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said.

Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April
Title: Re: Thanks to the adonis-principles i strained my lower-back
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 03:33:39 PM
I'm not American, I'm Irish fuck nut
Diet, exercise take off equal pounds, study finds
Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:27am ET
 
Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April.

They tested 24 people, 12 who ate a calorie-restricted diet, and 12 who dieted and also exercised five times a week for six months.

The dieters ate 25 percent less than normal, while the exercisers reduced their calorie intake by 12.5 percent and increased their physical activity to lose an extra 12.5 percent in calories.

Another 10 volunteers acted as controls. All food was provided by the university in carefully measured portions for most of the study.

The volunteers in both groups lost about 10 percent of their body weight, 24 percent of their fat mass, and 27 percent of their abdominal visceral fat. Visceral fat is packed in between the internal organs and is considered the most dangerous type of fat, linked with heart disease and diabetes.


The distribution of the fat on the body was not altered by either approach -- helping prove that there is no such thing as "spot reducing", Ravussin said in a telephone interview.

This suggests that "individuals are genetically programmed for fat storage in a particular pattern and that this programming cannot easily be overcome," he added.

Ravussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight.

"If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said.

Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April

;D
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ignorance on March 12, 2007, 03:37:19 PM
where is the link? you know the url link.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 03:38:09 PM
where is the link? you know the url link.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2007-01-26T152656Z_01_N26231484_RTRUKOC_0_US-DIET-EXERCISE.xml&pageNumber=2&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2


for more info

www.calerie.org
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Hedgehog on March 12, 2007, 03:50:45 PM
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2007-01-26T152656Z_01_N26231484_RTRUKOC_0_US-DIET-EXERCISE.xml&pageNumber=2&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2


for more info

www.calerie.org

Don't tell me you're getting on that 1000 calorie a day-and live to be a 120 year old-bandwagon... ;D

-Hedge
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 03:53:12 PM
Gram for Gram an oreo cookie has more energy potential then a chicken breast or rice or baked potatoe. The study has been printed but i don't know where it is.


Your freaking high, simple sugars are a fast burining energy with a crash, you don't where the study is because there is no study, there is no nutritional value in an oreo, knucklehead!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 03:54:03 PM
Don't tell me you're getting on that 1000 calorie a day-and live to be a 120 year old-bandwagon... ;D

-Hedge

No I average around 2900 a day, but with my method, I get all the benefits of CRON, since 2900 is slightly enough to keep me in a deficit.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 03:58:22 PM
Your freaking high, simple sugars are a fast burining energy with a crash, you don't where the study is because there is no study, there is no nutritional value in an oreo, knucklehead!
Have you ever worked out with the power of an oreo cookie vs chicken breast and a potatoe..... it is quite amazing. I have more intensity in the gym, better pumps, etc when i load up on junk before a work out as opposed to eating a potatoe.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: affy on March 12, 2007, 03:59:05 PM
the gimmicks on this site are getting out of hand

seriously

adonis, post your formula or stfu

its that easy.  you claim you do research for various companies, yet you can't get any of your bullshit published?  why is that, because its pure horse shit and no one would ruin their reputation publishing your garbage
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 03:59:44 PM
Have you ever worked out with the power of an oreo cookie vs chicken breast and a potatoe..... it is quite amazing. I have more intensity in the gym, better pumps, etc when i load up on junk before a work out as opposed to eating a potatoe.
chocolate cake is even better before a workout, i'm being totally serious, you won't believe it.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: svtmuscle on March 12, 2007, 04:00:30 PM
Maybe that'll explain why he looks like a 16 year old who hasnt eaten in 3 weeks. You guys need to stop giving him so much attention and let him go back to his trailer.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:00:37 PM
Your freaking high, simple sugars are a fast burining energy with a crash, you don't where the study is because there is no study, there is no nutritional value in an oreo, knucklehead!
hahahah i did have oatmeal but just because you said that im eating a candy bar right now before going to the gym.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Diet, exercise take off equal pounds, study finds
Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:27am ET
 
Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April.

They tested 24 people, 12 who ate a calorie-restricted diet, and 12 who dieted and also exercised five times a week for six months.

The dieters ate 25 percent less than normal, while the exercisers reduced their calorie intake by 12.5 percent and increased their physical activity to lose an extra 12.5 percent in calories.

Another 10 volunteers acted as controls. All food was provided by the university in carefully measured portions for most of the study.

The volunteers in both groups lost about 10 percent of their body weight, 24 percent of their fat mass, and 27 percent of their abdominal visceral fat. Visceral fat is packed in between the internal organs and is considered the most dangerous type of fat, linked with heart disease and diabetes.


The distribution of the fat on the body was not altered by either approach -- helping prove that there is no such thing as "spot reducing", Ravussin said in a telephone interview.

This suggests that "individuals are genetically programmed for fat storage in a particular pattern and that this programming cannot easily be overcome," he added.

Ravussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight.

"If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said.

Dieting alone also did not appear to cause the volunteers to lose muscle mass along with fat, Ravussin's team found.

"There is a concept that if you exercise, you are going to lose less of your muscle," he said. But his team found no evidence this is true.

Ravussin believes exercise is crucial to health, however.

"For overall health, an appropriate program of diet and exercise is still the best," he said.


His team found some small suggestion that cutting 25 percent of calories by either diet or diet and exercise might extend life.

"We found that 2 of the biomarkers of aging were improved -- core temperature was 0.4 to 0.5 degrees C less," he said. "Insulin, which has been shown to be a biomarker of aging, was reduced," Ravussin said. That finding was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last April


This is your proof, studies like this have been around for years, nothing new, it makes sense............BTW, it says NOTHING about cream pies and Oreos being apart of that diet, dammit Adonis, your complete ignorance is getting really fucking annoying!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:01:29 PM
the gimmicks on this site are getting out of hand

seriously

adonis, post your formula or stfu

its that easy.  you claim you do research for various companies, yet you can't get any of your bullshit published?  why is that, because its pure horse shit and no one would ruin their reputation publishing your garbage

Do my method and you will get it.
If not, quit hounding me.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:02:12 PM
chocolate cake is even better before a workout, i'm being totally serious, you won't believe it.
Im usually a 3 muskateers guy with a cup of coffee but half a coconut cream pie works VERY well and i highly recommend it.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 04:02:26 PM
hahahahaha, listen to all the pent up frustration from some of you clowns, some of you are so brainwashed into believeing the "clean foods" bullshit that you can't even fathom eating something that tastes good.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: onlyme on March 12, 2007, 04:02:44 PM
i havent been on here for a while, but this shit talker was pwnd last time i was here for having spider monkey arms, being a tranny , and being fucked in the head. He was a complete joke, now he has come out with some principles??? Now i heard of the book of"Klaus, the great one", but i did read into this before being confused. Wat the fuck r they in bullet points?

Be sure to wipe your mouth after giving blowing your girlfriends dad
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: affy on March 12, 2007, 04:03:48 PM
Do my method and you will get it.
If not, quit hounding me.

i've pm'd you two times since you first came up with your methods

you've never replied...im open to try it for a few weeks

just give me the basics and i'll follow it and be the real judge
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
hahahahaha, listen to all the pent up frustration from some of you clowns, some of you are so brainwashed into believeing the "clean foods" bullshit that you can't even fathom eating something that tastes good.
Indeed... i actually find eating junk motivational before a workout because i have a fear of it sticking on me so my work outs become very fast paced and intense. Besides if you have any extra calories you can always burn them off doing something.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 04:04:39 PM
Have you ever worked out with the power of an oreo cookie vs chicken breast and a potatoe..... it is quite amazing. I have more intensity in the gym, better pumps, etc when i load up on junk before a work out as opposed to eating a potatoe.

Again, nothing new, it's simple sugar, it gets into the blood stream quicker, and if you have anykind of a workout for a long period of time, you crash in the middle of it, very little in the way of glycogen storage!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:05:06 PM
i've pm'd you two times since you first came up with your methods

you've never replied...im open to try it for a few

just give me the basics and i'll follow it and be the real judge
Ok, I need you to instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log.  

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:06:01 PM
Again, nothing new, it's simple sugar, it gets into the blood stream quicker, and if you have anykind of a workout for a long period of time, you crash in the middle of it, very little in the way of glycogen storage!
And you work out for what, 3 hours? I've been in the gym as long as 2 hours without crashing. Yeah when i get home and im done with cardio i crash but who cares when im home. I got nothing to do for the rest of the day other then school work, keeping up the apt, and posting on getbig.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:06:59 PM
And you work out for what, 3 hours? I've been in the gym as long as 2 hours without crashing. Yeah when i get home and im done with cardio i crash but who cares when im home. I got nothing to do for the rest of the day other then school work, keeping up the apt, and posting on getbig.
Also that whole thing about crashing is bullshit. I work out twice a day and do cardio on 1600 calories and have plenty of energy. Total nonsense. You are mentally weak if you cannot do these things.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Also that whole thing about crashing is bullshit. I work out twice a day and do cardio on 1600 calories and have plenty of energy. Total nonsense. You are mentally weak if you cannot do these things.
I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 04:08:39 PM
I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.
Hahahah sometimes i do 32 sets for chest just because i like the way it feels.... these people are brainwashed.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: svtmuscle on March 12, 2007, 04:08:49 PM
True Adonis, what is your college education? Professional Experience outside of being an e-whore?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 04:09:13 PM
Adonis, do you use either of these formulas as a basis to calculate caloric needs:

(1) Harris-Benedict Formula (with BMR based on total body weight)Women:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 X weight in kg) + (1.8 X height in cm) - (4.7 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 655 + (4.354 X weight in lbs) + (4.569 X height in inches) - (4.7 X age in years)

And in case you are wondering, the formula for Men is:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kg) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 66 + (6.213 X weight in lbs) + (12.69  X height in inches) - (6.8 X age in years)

Now that you know your BMR, you can calculate TDEE by multiplying your BMR by your activity multiplier from the chart below:

Activity Multiplier

Sedentary (desk job, with little or no exercise)
= BMR X 1.2  
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
= BMR X 1.375  
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
= BMR X 1.55  
Very active (intensive exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
= BMR X 1.725  
Extremely active (intensive daily exercise/sports & physical job or twice per day training for marathon, races, fitness contests, etc.)
= BMR X 1.9  

(2) Katch-McArdle Formula (with BMR based on lean body mass)

BMR (men/women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean body mass in kg)
OR
BMR (men/women) = 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs)

Example:

You weigh 130 lbs. (59.1 kg)
Your body fat percentage is 20% (26 lbs. fat, 104 lbs. lean)
Your lean body mass is 104 lbs. (47.3 kg)
Your BMR = 370 + (21.6 X 47.3) = 1392 calories

To determine TDEE from BMR, you simply multiply BMR by the activity multiplier (which is the same as those used in the Katch-McArdle formula above)

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:09:20 PM
True Adonis, what is your college education? Professional Experience outside of being an e-whore?
Physics.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
I agree.

Bodybuilding is too simple and is no way a test of endurance.
hahahaha, exactly, these guys make it sound as if they need to eat like a Greek God moving mountains to fuel their massive 13 set chest workout.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
Adonis, do you use either of these formulas as a basis to calculate caloric needs:

(1) Harris-Benedict Formula (with BMR based on total body weight)Women:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 X weight in kg) + (1.8 X height in cm) - (4.7 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 655 + (4.354 X weight in lbs) + (4.569 X height in inches) - (4.7 X age in years)

And in case you are wondering, the formula for Men is:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kg) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
OR
BMR = 66 + (6.213 X weight in lbs) + (12.69  X height in inches) - (6.8 X age in years)

Now that you know your BMR, you can calculate TDEE by multiplying your BMR by your activity multiplier from the chart below:

Activity Multiplier

Sedentary (desk job, with little or no exercise)
= BMR X 1.2  
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
= BMR X 1.375  
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
= BMR X 1.55  
Very active (intensive exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
= BMR X 1.725  
Extremely active (intensive daily exercise/sports & physical job or twice per day training for marathon, races, fitness contests, etc.)
= BMR X 1.9  

(2) Katch-McArdle Formula (with BMR based on lean body mass)

BMR (men/women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean body mass in kg)
OR
BMR (men/women) = 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs)

Example:

You weigh 130 lbs. (59.1 kg)
Your body fat percentage is 20% (26 lbs. fat, 104 lbs. lean)
Your lean body mass is 104 lbs. (47.3 kg)
Your BMR = 370 + (21.6 X 47.3) = 1392 calories

To determine TDEE from BMR, you simply multiply BMR by the activity multiplier (which is the same as those used in the Katch-McArdle formula above)



No I do not.

Those read high and are innaccurate as they are not individualized.

My formula is based totally on individual performance and their own trends.  Totally individualized.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: onlyme on March 12, 2007, 04:12:11 PM
Physics.

Prove it.  Without proof you are full of shit
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: affy on March 12, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
Ok, I need you to instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log. 

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.



i knew it

bullshit...all i asked for was a formula to prove ME wrong, and your the one giving the stipulations

you just pwned yourself agian...im done with you.  I wont hound you any longer like you wished, its not worth it
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: svtmuscle on March 12, 2007, 04:16:04 PM
Prove it.  Without proof you are full of shit
And just believing that a calorie is a calorie, your a complete retard. Let's eat 3,000 calories a day of Big Mac's, and 3,000 calories a day of chicken and brown rice, lets see who comes out on top.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:16:15 PM
i knew it

bullshit...all i asked for was a formula to prove ME wrong, and your the one giving the stipulations

you just pwned yourself agian...im done with you.  I wont hound you any longer like you wished, its not worth it

I am willing to help you totally for free.

I need to you to follow those steps as I need that for data.  I also need to communicate freely with you.  I want to be sure you are doing everything according to my own principles.

I am willing to help you.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:16:59 PM
And just believing that a calorie is a calorie, your a complete retard. Let's eat 3,000 calories a day of Big Mac's, and 3,000 calories a day of chicken and brown rice, lets see who comes out on top.

Lets do it.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: ButtonMan on March 12, 2007, 04:17:17 PM
Prove it.  Without proof you are full of shit

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/buttonman_2007/Formula-MWd_t.gif)
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:18:42 PM
i knew it

bullshit...all i asked for was a formula to prove ME wrong, and your the one giving the stipulations

you just pwned yourself agian...im done with you.  I wont hound you any longer like you wished, its not worth it
What is so difficult about doing this:
Ok, I need you to instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log. 

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.


Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: svtmuscle on March 12, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
Lets do it.
You've already posted your pics, your a joke. you just look like a track runner who does 50 pushups a day, congratulations.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Unbiased on March 12, 2007, 04:20:48 PM
Indeed... i actually find eating junk motivational before a workout because i have a fear of it sticking on me so my work outs become very fast paced and intense. Besides if you have any extra calories you can always burn them off doing something.

Like perhaps sucking cocks, you little homo?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Saxon on March 12, 2007, 04:21:50 PM
And just believing that a calorie is a calorie, your a complete retard. Let's eat 3,000 calories a day of Big Mac's, and 3,000 calories a day of chicken and brown rice, lets see who comes out on top.

Why would anyone want to eat the same thing again and again everyday??? Especially the tasteless foods mentioned above, now that is retarded.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:22:33 PM
Why would anyone want to eat the same thing again and again everyday??? Especially the tasteless foods mentioned above, now that is retarded.
I agree.

Why not just eat whatever you like.

Which is what I advocate.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: svtmuscle on March 12, 2007, 04:22:59 PM
Why would anyone want to eat the same thing again and again everyday??? Especially the tasteless foods mentioned above, now that is retarded.
just an example
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 04:23:54 PM
Why would anyone want to eat the same thing again and again everyday??? Especially the tasteless foods mentioned above, now that is retarded.
hahahaha, listen to all the anger and name calling in the "clean food" eater's posts, epic bitterness at eating tuna and lettuce and still being fat.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Devon97 on March 12, 2007, 04:24:11 PM
Adam, what is the formula?

Also please list your education thus far:
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
Adam, what is the formula?

Also please list your education thus far:

As I stated, I would also help you and give you my knowledge, if you simply:
instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log. 

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.

 
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Saxon on March 12, 2007, 04:30:29 PM
hahahaha, listen to all the anger and name calling in the "clean food" eater's posts, epic bitterness at eating tuna and lettuce and still being fat.

Clean food will still taste good if you can cook.  I don't understand why people eat plain rice or plain chicken breast when even a simple marinade would flavour the chicken without adding many calories.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
Clean food will still taste good if you can cook.  I don't understand why people eat plain rice or plain chicken breast when even a simple marinade would flavour the chicken without adding many calories.

Thank you
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Squadfather on March 12, 2007, 04:32:11 PM
Clean food will still taste good if you can cook.  I don't understand why people eat plain rice or plain chicken breast when even a simple marinade would flavour the chicken without adding many calories.
hahahaha, no, they're too paranoid about the 35 mg's of sodium in the Durkee's Cajun Seasoning Salt to do anything CRAZY like that. ::)
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 12, 2007, 04:33:51 PM
And you work out for what, 3 hours? I've been in the gym as long as 2 hours without crashing. Yeah when i get home and im done with cardio i crash but who cares when im home. I got nothing to do for the rest of the day other then school work, keeping up the apt, and posting on getbig.


Also that whole thing about crashing is bullshit. I work out twice a day and do cardio on 1600 calories and have plenty of energy. Total nonsense. You are mentally weak if you cannot do these things.

You just finished mentioning you crash after your workout but now your saying crashing is all bullshit. Which is it, Buttplug?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Devon97 on March 12, 2007, 04:34:35 PM
As I stated, I would also help you and give you my knowledge, if you simply:
instant message me and we will start a Progress thread.
You will be required to take pictures every week and post them, like the others.

You will also be required to do a log. 

I am willing to help you in anyway I can, if you can do this.

 


HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE # of Cals to perscribe?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 04:35:31 PM
No I do not.

Those read high and are innaccurate as they are not individualized.

My formula is based totally on individual performance and their own trends.  Totally individualized.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha...... .you've been owned AGAIN, yet you still claim it's inaccurate, this is what happend, you looked at this formula and said to yourself "shit, what the hell is this", "I better make up something quick, I know, I'll just tell them it's inaccurate........Hhahah ahahahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 12, 2007, 04:35:50 PM
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE # of Cals to perscribe?

He pulls the answer out of a hat.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: XFACTOR on March 12, 2007, 04:37:15 PM
I agree.

Why not just eat whatever you like.

Which is what I advocate.

TA, please address health issues associated with eating poorly such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure and heart disease.  All known factors of having a poor, fattening diet.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:37:38 PM
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE # of Cals to perscribe?

First you must follow a constant, So I can gather data.

Then I use trends and your individualized data which is arranged in an equation I came up with, solely based on Energy.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 04:38:59 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......you've been owned AGAIN, yet you still claim it's inaccurate, this is what happend, you looked at this formula and said to yourself "shit, what the hell is this", "I better make up something quick, I know, I'll just tell them it's inaccurate........Hhahah ahahahahahahahahahaha!

 8)
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Devon97 on March 12, 2007, 04:39:38 PM
First you must follow a constant, So I can gather data.

Then I use trends and your individualized data which is arranged in an equation I came up with, solely based on Energy.

LOL ok " equation I came up with" LMFAO!!

Ok whats the equation?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: leonp1981 on March 12, 2007, 04:40:08 PM
So you make the subject eat 2000 cals a day.  If he doesn't lose weight, drop him to 1900.  If he still doesn't lose weight, drop him to 1800.  And on and on and on.  When he finally loses weight, you give him a random number slightly lower still, telling him that's what the formula came out with.

 ???
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:40:28 PM
TA, please address health issues associated with eating poorly such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure and heart disease.  All known factors of having a poor, fattening diet.

Eating poorly is only one of two things.

1. Overeating causing obesity
2. not meeting minimum nutritional needs.

The latter is not feasible.  ALL AMERICANS are meeting these needs as is anyone who eats regularly.


www.truthinfitness.org
Also, here are Chazz Weaver`s results from eating Nothing But Mcdonalds.
Okay, here are the results:

Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%


Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:42:05 PM
So you make the subject eat 2000 cals a day.  If he doesn't lose weight, drop him to 1900.  If he still doesn't lose weight, drop him to 1800.  And on and on and on.  When he finally loses weight, you give him a random number slightly lower still, telling him that's what the formula came out with.

 ???

No.

I don`t drop calories at all.  I keep it a constant, then when I have enough data, I instruct them of their limits using my formula which uses the data.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
Eating poorly is only one of two things.

Overeating casuing obesity and not meeting minimum nutritional needs.

The latter is not feasible.  ALL AMERICANS are meeting these needs as is anyone who eats regularly.


www.truthinfitness.org
Also, here are Chazz Weaver`s results from eating Nothing But Mcdonalds.
Okay, here are the results:

Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%




I suppose you didn't realize he taking Lipitor....hahahahahahah ahahahaha!!
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Devon97 on March 12, 2007, 04:43:42 PM
ADAM... PLEASE LIST the EQUATION based SOLEY on ENERGY, that YOU ALONE DEVELOPED.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:44:21 PM
I suppose you didn't realize he taking Lipitor....hahahahahahah ahahahaha!!
He isn`t.

Please show me where that is stated.

Stop making up lies.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: leonp1981 on March 12, 2007, 04:45:27 PM
No.

I don`t drop calories at all.  I keep it a constant, then when I have enough data, I instruct them of their limits using my formula which uses the data.

So what data do you collect from the subject?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:45:59 PM
ADAM... PLEASE LIST the EQUATION based SOLEY on ENERGY, that YOU ALONE DEVELOPED.

Again,

Do what I requested if you are interested.  If not, just move on.

I do not wish to provide you or anyone with it, if they are not going to comply.

I am willing to help you for free.  Its totally up to you.

I am going to give Tweeter his data this week.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 12, 2007, 04:46:26 PM
Chris Aceto had a formula in his book that was pretty simple (almost too simple):

[(LBM  * 10)(x)] + (LBM *10)

x=.2 sendentary
  .4 moderately active
  .7 very active  
   1 extremely active
    
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 12, 2007, 04:46:35 PM
He isn`t.

Please show me where that is stated.

Why would he state that when he's already baffling you with bullshit?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:47:28 PM
Why would he state that when he's already baffling you with bullshit?

He is not at all.

www.truthinfitness.org
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:48:11 PM
Why would he state that when he's already baffling you with bullshit?
The real question is,

WHY would YOU state a lie, knowing its not true?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: XFACTOR on March 12, 2007, 04:48:38 PM
Eating poorly is only one of two things.

1. Overeating causing obesity
2. not meeting minimum nutritional needs.

The latter is not feasible.  ALL AMERICANS are meeting these needs as is anyone who eats regularly.


www.truthinfitness.org
Also, here are Chazz Weaver`s results from eating Nothing But Mcdonalds.
Okay, here are the results:

Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%




Interesting.  BP was the ony thing slighty affected negatively.  I still have a feeling eating poorly like this will clog arteries.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: leonp1981 on March 12, 2007, 04:49:57 PM
Interesting.  BP was the ony thing slighty affected negatively.  I still have a feeling eating poorly like this will clog arteries.

Well it didn't do Morgan Spurlock any favours when he did the same thing.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:50:47 PM
Interesting.  BP was the ony thing slighty affected negatively.  I still have a feeling eating poorly like this will clog arteries.

This is not eating poorly.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:51:21 PM
Hello. I want to thank you very much for visiting Truth In Fitness. I feel honored that you’ve taken time out of your busy schedule to visit this website. For those of you who don’t already know who I am, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Chazz Weaver . I’m a 48 year old economist with my master’s degree. However, nutrition and fitness has been a passion of mine for the past 19 years. During the past 19 years I’ve done extensive research regarding health and fitness and applied my findings to my own lifestyle as well as coached others in their own quest for weight loss. So, let me start at the beginning and give you some background information on why I’ve embarked on the “McDonald’s Diet” project.

For years I’ve been concerned about the mountain of misinformation that the health and fitness industry places before the public in order to make a profit selling their goods and services. We’ve all seen the ads for diet plans, exercise equipment, gym memberships and personal trainers that claim by using their particular product or service you will “in no time” be looking like Mr. or Mrs. America. Or the industry experts that spew out facts and figures about how to achieve weight loss, when they themselves are generally overweight. All of this misinformation leaves the general public with only bits and pieces of the entire picture.

I’ve seen so many people pointing fingers at the fast food industry, placing blame on them for the acceleration of obesity in America, instead of taking personal accountability for their problems. And after reading about Morgan Spurlock’s documentary “Supersize Me” I just knew it was time to put all the pieces of the puzzle together and help educate the public about the real picture of health and fitness.

The following journal is a daily account of my 30 day journey through the golden arches of fast food. I will be eating McDonald’s food, and only McDonald’s food, for the next 30 day’s. My objective is to prove that through proper caloric intake and exercise (aerobic & anaerobic) it’s possible to eat a variety of foods, including fast food, without gaining fat. Please be aware that I am not advocating fast food as a lifestyle. I am merely demonstrating that it is possible, that with proper information and education, to eat McDonald’s food for 30 day’s and not gain any fat. I will be eating everything on the menu at least once during the 30 day’s and will not be making alterations or adjustments to the items. Every day will be documented by means of video tape, signed statements from witnesses at every meal, receipts collected from every meal which list exact items purchased and have a time and date stamp.

I hope you’ll be able to join me for a free health and fitness seminar on May 1, 2004 from 11 am – 1 pm at Triangle Square located in the heart of Costa Mesa. I will be discussing my experience during the McDonald’s 30-day challenge and reflect on the following three components of fitness: The human body and its efficiency; how the human body uses calories (proteins, carbohydrates and fat); and why people need to exercise in order to have a better quality of life.

 
 

 

Journal Entries 
Days 1-5
Days 6-10
 
Days 11-15
Days 16-20
 
Days 21-25
Days 26-30
Conclusion



 

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: onlyme on March 12, 2007, 04:52:05 PM
I FOUND THE APENIS EQUATION

BS+BS+BS+BS+Bs= ALLOT OF BULLSHIT
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: XFACTOR on March 12, 2007, 04:52:20 PM
This is not eating poorly.



High in saturated fat is eating poorly.  How can this even be argued?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 04:52:27 PM
Greetings to all,

Well, it’s been a week since “The McDonald’s Diet” officially ended and the results are in. However, before I get into that, I’d like to thank all the individuals that donated their time and effort to help out on the project – Mike, Carlos, and Michele for their great work on the web site and postings, Rosalie for keeping my schedule together and keeping me on track, Scott for making sure the integrity of the project was sound, Jessie & James for their creative filming and the incredible documentary that is coming soon, and all the rest that played a part in the project – Thank You…

The project was fun and I had a great time doing it – sounds funny given the results that Morgan Spurlock claims to have had from only McDonald’s food. We both (Spurlock & I) knew exactly what we were doing. The difference was that Spurlock was/is playing on the misinformation that the public has in order to make a profit; I was/am interested in educating in order to stop the acceleration of obesity in America. However, am I looking to get something for my efforts? Yes – psychic benefit, a term in economics, which is more valuable to me than monetary benefit.

Spurlock will move on to host a TV show, Truth In Fitness will be starting a new project this month. We’ll be coaching a 55 year-old, obese woman, whom is diabetic, to a new life, and you will be able to track her every step on the web site. We’ll keep a journal, just as before, with pictures and comments from her. The introduction to this new project will have the full story.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
You forgot to mention that we won't see your face on camera at all in this TV show (if it ever airs), and that we'll have to "take your word for it" that you're working with him. Total BS. You post things without a shed of proof.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 05:16:35 PM
You forgot to mention that we won't see your face on camera at all in this TV show (if it ever airs), and that we'll have to "take your word for it" that you're working with him. Total BS. You post things without a shed of proof.
???
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 05:18:10 PM
???

Exactly. More BS from The True Liar. Don't you have better things to do than make up elaborate stories on an internet forum?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 05:20:12 PM
Exactly. More BS from The True Liar. Don't you have better things to do than make up elaborate stories on an internet forum?
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 05:22:05 PM
What are you talking about?

My first post in this thread was in relation to this:

"Spurlock will move on to host a TV show, Truth In Fitness will be starting a new project this month. We’ll be coaching a 55 year-old, obese woman, whom is diabetic, to a new life, and you will be able to track her every step on the web site. We’ll keep a journal, just as before, with pictures and comments from her. The introduction to this new project will have the full story."

You can't expect me to believe you're working with this guy.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 05:23:37 PM
My first post in this thread was in relation to this:

"Spurlock will move on to host a TV show, Truth In Fitness will be starting a new project this month. We’ll be coaching a 55 year-old, obese woman, whom is diabetic, to a new life, and you will be able to track her every step on the web site. We’ll keep a journal, just as before, with pictures and comments from her. The introduction to this new project will have the full story."

You can't expect me to believe you're working with this guy.

I`m not.

That is what Chazz Weaver wrote.

Do you comprehend what you read ever?  Does anyone anymore?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 05:27:25 PM
I`m not.

That is what Chazz Weaver wrote.

Do you comprehend what you read ever?  Does anyone anymore?

Why did you post it then? You made it look as if it were you on another one of your ramblings. Don't tell me you tried to give any other impression than that.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2007, 05:33:24 PM
Why did you post it then? You made it look as if it were you on another one of your ramblings. Don't tell me you tried to give any other impression than that.
If you read what I post once in a while, you wouldn`t have to make wild assumptions.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 05:40:47 PM
Hi intenseone.... i just got back from my back work out and had an awsome pump.... my back is throbbing. Looks like the 3 muskateers helped alot. I think ill have anothero ne. OMG OMG OMG ZOMG I NEED TO SPIKE MY INSULIN AND GET A PROTIEN SHAKE OMG!!!! BAGHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH delusionality is the fungus of the modern day bodybuilding industry.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GoneAway on March 12, 2007, 06:01:37 PM
If you read what I post once in a while, you wouldn`t have to make wild assumptions.

You do have alot of good things to say, I won't deny that.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: GigantorX on March 12, 2007, 07:50:13 PM
   I think Adonis' principles may have some merit to them to some extent. In a broad sense a calorie does equal a calorie no matter how you slice it. But,don't  the Carb/Fat/Protein each have their own metabolic process? Such as protein being converted into amino acids etc? But with that, how much protein do you truely need to sustain growth coupled with an exercise program? These questions need to be explored, as popular "fact" is often nothing more than junk science mixed with hype and advertising dollars.

  And really Onlyme, calling Adonis "Apenis" is the fucking lamest thing I've seen in a while. Instead of attacking Adonis, maybe you should engage in actual constructive arguements based on fact and research instead of calling Adonis a 'stupid poo poo head' you fucking child.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on March 12, 2007, 07:54:33 PM
too unorthodox for me or any other hormonized bodybuilder. No point to do it. maybe offseason. if it was sooo greatm everybody would be doing it
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Buttsuck on March 12, 2007, 08:16:47 PM
too unorthodox for me or any other hormonized bodybuilder. No point to do it. maybe offseason. if it was sooo greatm everybody would be doing it
People are too afraid to try it. I was too but i took a leap and it worked. You are begining to see more and more people coming out of the wood work claiming success.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Big N on March 12, 2007, 08:27:46 PM
Dude this whole thread is something else

  ;D
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: onlyme on March 12, 2007, 08:33:29 PM
   I think Adonis' principles may have some merit to them to some extent. In a broad sense a calorie does equal a calorie no matter how you slice it. But,don't  the Carb/Fat/Protein each have their own metabolic process? Such as protein being converted into amino acids etc? But with that, how much protein do you truely need to sustain growth coupled with an exercise program? These questions need to be explored, as popular "fact" is often nothing more than junk science mixed with hype and advertising dollars.

  And really Onlyme, calling Adonis "Apenis" is the fucking lamest thing I've seen in a while. Instead of attacking Adonis, maybe you should engage in actual constructive arguements based on fact and research instead of calling Adonis a 'stupid poo poo head' you fucking child.


 ???
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Bast000 on March 12, 2007, 08:35:09 PM
onlyme, what are you 50?
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: dodster on March 12, 2007, 11:12:14 PM
i started this thread and thru all this bs, most entertaining but pure bs, i gather that apenis eats 2900 cals a day, which sounds normal. from what i have read a nutrtion cal deficit of 500 cal will allow u to lose weight. Apenis does not tell the formula he uses and must be well happy that everyone is askin wat it is - like the kid in playground who knows "the secret" but alas my friends there is no secret if he had discovered something iincredibly new and amzin then he would declare it straight away, i know hed do anything to improve his rep on here, where hes nicknamed apenis, someone post the pics again im savin them so in a year  i can melt him down again.
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Enigma on March 13, 2007, 05:01:27 AM
Sociopath

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.


Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of Adonis.

Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: wolfgang187 on March 13, 2007, 05:07:25 AM
WARNING


Dear Get Big,

  You're about to discover the most delusional and pathological liar on the internet today.  This man is claiming to have developed principles of diet programs fitness models for bodybuilders to reach single digit body fat levels.  Now on top of that he will private message and tell you for a fee he will get you into shape.

  Over the past 9 years, through a long and painstaking process of trial, error, Adonis has done only a internet bodybuilding show and took second place. Now he asks for money because he's claiming to have a surefire system for losing body fat,  based on  no known education or training in nutrition or competitive bodybuilding experience with in the fitness industry.


   The True Adonis is a grifter on the internet, who will manipulate the web community and find a mark into his tricks or dishonest plan. Sometimes Adonis will rely on naive individuals who put their confidence in to his schemes, such as "too good to be true" claims. It may take months for the wider community to discover that such claims are bogus, and usually it is too late, as many people have lost time and money.



Thank You

Wolfgang
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Playboy on March 13, 2007, 05:20:26 AM
i havent been on here for a while, but this shit talker was pwnd last time i was here for having spider monkey arms, being a tranny , and being fucked in the head. He was a complete joke, now he has come out with some principles??? Now i heard of the book of"Klaus, the great one", but i did read into this before being confused. Wat the fuck r they in bullet points?
Sure...when you smoke enough crack anything is possible.

PB
Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: The Enigma on March 13, 2007, 03:45:53 PM
Hi intenseone.... i just got back from my back work out and had an awsome pump.... my back is throbbing. Looks like the 3 muskateers helped alot. I think ill have anothero ne. OMG OMG OMG ZOMG I NEED TO SPIKE MY INSULIN AND GET A PROTIEN SHAKE OMG!!!! BAGHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH delusionality is the fungus of the modern day bodybuilding industry.

Sociopath:

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.


Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of "Adonis" IMO.


Title: Re: wtf is adonis principles???
Post by: Big N on March 13, 2007, 03:47:46 PM
Dude this whole thread is something else and it continues EPIC  ;D