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We would like to find out the % of Americans who believe 9/11 is an inside job. We are having a disagreement about which is more likely to produce accurate results.
Choice 1 is Scripps poll, a widely accepted and reputable polling firm which uses well-worded questions, polls a wide group covering proportionate numbers of rfactors. They publish their findings with all scientific analysis.
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
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Choice 2 is an anonymous guy named ozmo that another anonymous guy, beach Bum, talked to and said he talks to lots of people all over and it never came up.
Absurd. Absolutely ridiculous. I think Ozmo is a much better gauge. He previously indicated he travels quite a bit and NOBODY talks about this conspiracy nonsense. It is primarily an internet phenomenon. I deal with lots of people too and with the exception of two of my softball teammates, it has never come up.
Now, you have two choices. Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?
1) Scippt scientific poll
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2) stranger talks to other stranger about worldwide voluntary "bringing it up" with strangers they meet.
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Quote from: 240 is Back on March 09, 2007, 11:47:54 PM
one out of three people you see on the street believes 911 was an inside job.
Bwahahahahahahaha!! :D
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3) Crazy internet web-page designer.
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3) Crazy internet web-page designer.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ;D
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okay, you two have made your point clear. You make fun of me but cannot back up why you believe Scripps is wrong.
I would like the rest of the political board folks to weigh in on this question now please.
Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?
1) Scippt scientific poll
OR
2) stranger talks to other stranger about worldwide voluntary "bringing it up" with strangers they meet.
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I don't know about the 1/3 part...but I would think a poll is the most accurate.
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okay, you two have made your point clear. You make fun of me but cannot back up why you believe Scripps is wrong.
I would like the rest of the political board folks to weigh in on this question now please.
Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?
1) Scippt scientific poll
OR
2) stranger talks to other stranger about worldwide voluntary "bringing it up" with strangers they meet.
Why don't we poll the members here to find out their thoughts??
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Why don't we poll the members here to find out their thoughts??
Poll the members here to find out their thoughts? BRILLIANT!
I'll take "3) Crazy internet web-page designer" for 300 Alex. :D LOL . . . .
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Why don't we poll the members here to find out their thoughts??
Are you saying that polling ten people is more accurate than the 1,000 they polled?
Wait, so polls using LARGE samples are inaccurate, but using ten people is more accurate?
You don't put stock in the large poll with well-selected rpopulation representations and a team of statisticians computing the results, but you do believe in the little, unscientific one on getbig?
Wow, you just embarassed yourself man.
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Are you saying that polling ten people is more accurate than the 1,000 they polled?
Wait, so polls using LARGE samples are inaccurate, but using ten people is more accurate?
You don't put stock in the large poll with well-selected rpopulation representations and a team of statisticians computing the results, but you do believe in the little, unscientific one on getbig?
Wow, you just embarassed yourself man.
You just did!
240: "Now, you have two choices. Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?"
I'm starting to tear up man. Stop it already. LOL . . . .
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At least 240 backs his position up with facts and or references...he never presents an argument without some kind of research to base it on. I don't know which one of you guys are right...but it makes for a much better argument when you have SOMETHING to base your opinions on.
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You just did!
240: "Now, you have two choices. Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?"
I'm starting to tear up man. Stop it already. LOL . . . .
I bet you want me to stop. Team BruceBum doesn't understand statistics. They think polling 10 is more accurate than polling 1000, and they're both less accurate than "some guy named ozmo said..."
Team BruceBum decided to throw a red herring => "Let's do our own poll!"
Team BruceBum is tearing up. Seriously, they are at the point of tears laughing at a man who understands stats while they don't.
Man.
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Cannot play anymore. Going to bed. I'll never be able to get to sleep if I don't stop laughing. Buenos noches. :)
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Cannot play anymore. Going to bed. I'll never be able to get to sleep if I don't stop laughing. Buenos noches. :)
I am trying hard to picture a 38 year old man falling alseep, laughing to tears about a poll he doesn't understand.
Creepy.
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Why don't we poll the members here to find out their thoughts??
That wouldn't fly........the member on this site (or at least from what I can see) are predominantly Liberal!
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Poll added to my weblog:
http://twatjoe.blogspot.com (http://twatjoe.blogspot.com)
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Poll added to my weblog:
http://twatjoe.blogspot.com (http://twatjoe.blogspot.com)
Too much to read at 12:30am, gimme the short version.
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Scripps interviewed over 1000 people, using various demographics to ensure a fair representation.
Using "a few getbiggers" is a tad less reliable. Using "twatjoe blog" - also less reliable.
It's a cute red herring you're throwing though. "240 made a point that I cannot argue, so I'll start my OWN poll, even though I just said polls are less accurate than one stranger's memory of conversations with strangers"
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That wouldn't fly........the member on this site (or at least from what I can see) are predominantly Liberal!
Just because we are not die hard republicans does not mean we are all liberal. I agree and disagree with issues on both sides.
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Too much to read at 12:30am, gimme the short version.
Joe - that is the short version.
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Using "twatjoe blog" - also less reliable.
Lies!
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Lies!
Actually BRUCE, multiple-administration ensures reliability in polling. Polling 1000 people will have more reliable results than your twatjoe blog, unless you have 1001 respondants, which you check for population dispersement consistent with the actual population, which will be hard to do on an internet blog.
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Also, in the future, any articles featuring polls posted by Bruce or beachBum should be instantly discarded.
You see, they love polls when it makes their point. but they don't believe polls when it says something they disagree with.
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Poll added to my weblog:
http://twatjoe.blogspot.com (http://twatjoe.blogspot.com)
LOL! I almost voted for "crazy internet web page designer." LOL. That is too funny! LOL. ;D
And you better be careful with this stuff. The CIA is watching. You might be kidnapped by the CIA and tortured under the provisions of the Military Commissions Act. :-\
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LOL! I almost voted for "crazy internet web page designer." LOL. That is too funny! LOL. ;D
And you better be careful with this stuff. The CIA is watching. You might be kidnapped by the CIA and tortured under the provisions of the Military Commissions Act. :-\
Oh, golly!
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We would like to find out the % of Americans who believe 9/11 is an inside job. We are having a disagreement about which is more likely to produce accurate results.
Choice 1 is Scripps poll, a widely accepted and reputable polling firm which uses well-worded questions, polls a wide group covering proportionate numbers of rfactors. They publish their findings with all scientific analysis.
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
OR
Choice 2 is an anonymous guy named ozmo that another anonymous guy, beach Bum, talked to and said he talks to lots of people all over and it never came up.
Now, you have two choices. Which do you feel would provide you with a better estimation of the number of Americans who believe 911 is an inside job?
1) Scippt scientific poll
OR
2) stranger talks to other stranger about worldwide voluntary "bringing it up" with strangers they meet.
why did you have to bring me into this?
what did i do?
Other than come into contact with 100's of people every month, but not in a situtation where we would talk about 9/11. But in my circle of firneds it's never been brought up.
And the people i do know, who have expertise in many of the areas 240 makes speculative conclusions from and tries to pass them off as fact or expert analysis, these people pretty much debunked anything related or at least showed me how stuff really works and how impossible or how many people would have to be involved making it very very far fetched.
Didn't you try to pass off another poll a while back that said 18% believe it was an insaide job or the government had prior knowledge?
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I trust Ozmo... Why not...
Although I'm one of the three who thinks it's "possibly" an inside job... just because of gross inconsistencies.
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I trust Ozmo... Why not...
Although I'm one of the three who thinks it's "possibly" an inside job... just because of gross inconsistencies.
I think there is a good possibility BUSH knew.
I don't think:
- The WTC's where hit by missiles and the planes on video tape were holograms
- The pentagon was hit by a missile
- Flight 93 was shot down
WTC7, i still haven't made up my mind on. but i lean towards it falling on it's own.
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If Bush knew (and it's silly at this point, with his own statements and those of foreign nations, to believe he didn't.), then the 911 Commission is completely wrong from the get-go.
people think I want to prove 9/11 was an inside job. I don't. I just want a second investigation. They should test the metal for explosives, obviously. They should ask paki intel why they gave atta 100k, right before 9/11. They should make NORAD answer for those missing 45 minutes.
Simple police work that was never done. I know people here defend infidelity, incompetence, and perjury, if its THEIR party doing it. And it's disgusting. If 9/11 had happened on Gore's watch, and he had done such a shitty investigation, I'm betting BB and Bruce would be screaming loudest for an investigation.
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If 9/11 had happened on Gore's watch, and he had done such a shitty investigation, I'm betting BB and Bruce would be screaming loudest for an investigation.
WRONG!! Mr. Intenseone would be screaming the loudest. :)
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WRONG!! Mr. Intenseone would be screaming the loudest. :)
Yeah, Intenseone would probably be the top guy on that ladder.
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And it really points something out -
People are willing to sacrifice their own integrity for their "team".
And it's a terrible thing.
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If 9/11 had happened on Gore's watch, and he had done such a shitty investigation, I'm betting BB and Bruce would be screaming loudest for an investigation.
Please.
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If 9/11 had happened on Gore's watch, and he had done such a shitty investigation, I'm betting BB and Bruce would be screaming loudest for an investigation.
No, if you really believe that you have not been paying attention to the things they are saying. 9/11 and these debates are clouding your objectivity.