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Oldest Surviving Chinese Head Tax Subject Gets Compensation
Saturday March 10, 2007
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Saturday was Ralph Lee's 107th birthday, but for the Canadian, who just happens to also be the oldest surviving subject of Canada's infamous Chinese head tax, it was also the day he finally got the compensation and apology he'd waited so many years for.
"Apart from the fact that I'm happy that grandpa's alive to receive the apology, it's a mixture of emotions," said grand-daughter Landy Anderson.
Fron 1885 to 1923 Chinese immigrants in Canada were charged a head tax. Lee himself paid $500, which at the time was two years pay for the young man.
"When he came over here he worked pretty hard to make a living," said daughter Faye Lee.
"He was only 12 years old and he had to work in a restaurant and wash dishes while going to school at the same time."
Lee was one of many in attendance last June in Ottawa when the Canadian government announced both the compensation and released an apology for the tax and the ensuing 24-year ban on Chinese immigration.
"On behalf of the people and government of Canada we offer a full apology to Chinese Canadians for the head tax and express our deepest sorrow for the subsequent exclusion of Chinese immigrants," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said that day.
That apology came with a $20,000 settlement offered to surviving head tax subjects or their spouses, though for some of their descendents that's nowhere near enough.
"It's a wonderful thing that there was an apology, and that redress has been given to surviving head tax payers and spouses, but this really only represents 0.6 per cent of the people who really suffered," said attendee Colleen Hua.
Currently only about 500 Chinese Canadians are eligible for the compensation. If the offer were extended to the families of those who paid the head tax - 3,000 people would be eligible.
The Chinese Head Tax
Saturday March 10, 2007
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It seems almost unthinkable today - charge an exorbitant levy on a specific ethnic group to prevent them from entering your country.
Even in a nation where citizens know taxes are too high and there are too many of them, this kind of move seems beyond the pale.
But it happened in Canada, and it's been a part of our not-so-secret shame ever since.
It was known as the Chinese Head Tax and was directed at Chinese immigrants in the mid 1800s.
Chinese workers were cheap and plentiful when Canada was building its railway from coast to coast. But once that national link was established, things changed, and a distinctly racist tone took over popular sentiment.
That led the government to pass the odious Chinese Immigration Tax in 1885.
It charged all would-be immigrants from that country a then enormous sum of $50 to come to Canada. If that wasn't enough, inflation and amendments increased the amount to $100 and $500 by 1900 and 1903.
Those with money were welcome. But for those without the funds, the borders were all but closed.
Just two decades later a new law was passed that added insult to the injury. The Chinese Immigration Act of 1923 banned all immigrants from the Eastern nation altogether.
No other ethnic group was targeted in this way.
Things changed over the years, of course, and the Head Tax disappeared into the dark corners of hatred and fear that spawned it in the first place.
Some 82,000 Chinese immigrants paid the price to come to Canada. The federal government earned an estimated $23 million from the levy, and used some of the money to help Canada fight World War I.
The rest was invested and over time and with interest that amount is now worth well over $1 billion.
The relatives of those forced to fork over the funds fought to be compensated.
For years, the Canadian government resisted both those demands, fearing how the legal liabilities might impact this country's coffers.
The case went to the halls of justice and in 2003, an Ontario provincial court ruled the relatively recent Charter of Rights and Freedoms can't be made retroactive, taking the government off the hook.
But public pressure and the basic Canadian sense of fair play eventually won over politicians - sort of.
In November 2005, the National Congress of Chinese Canadians reached a deal with the Liberals, when the Grits agreed to put millions into a non-profit agency to teach Canadians about our sordid past.
But there was no apology and no money was going to be given to survivors' families.
Chinese Canadians who fought so long and so hard to right the historical wrong were outraged and charged they - and key members of the government - were both misled about the deal they'd agreed to.
Finally came the last federal election and a promise from the N.D.P. and the Conservatives to finally make it right.
Paul Martin felt the heat, apologizing on the campaign trail, only to be told he should have done it officially in Parliament.
More than a century after it was first imposed, the story re-emerged as perhaps the most improbable election issue.
But in such a tight race, it couldn't be ignored.
And with Stephen Harper's eventual win, the apology so many have waited so long to hear became a fact in June 2006.
"Chinese Canadians ... made a significant historical contribution despite many obstacles," Harper intoned just days after the vote that put him in power. "That's why, as I said during the election campaign, the Chinese Canadian community deserves an apology for the head tax and appropriate acknowledgement and redress."
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I agree with the apology, but what good is the money?
I am quite confused by this.
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I agree with the apology, but what good is the money?
I am quite confused by this.
The premise is when you commit an injustice, you should be required to be held accountable.
The $20,000,000 is merely a token payment considering the government made over a billion on the head tax.
However, it's not enough to just say "I'm sorry", ...or we'd commit injustices everyday and say "I'm sorry."
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The premise is when you commit an injustice, you should be required to be held accountable.
The $20,000,000 is merely a token payment considering the government made over a billion on the head tax.
However, it's not enough to just say "I'm sorry", ...or we'd commit injustices everyday and say "I'm sorry."
I do :D
and he's 107? holy shit!! :o
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The premise is when you commit an injustice, you should be required to be held accountable.
The $20,000,000 is merely a token payment considering the government made over a billion on the head tax.
However, it's not enough to just say "I'm sorry", ...or we'd commit injustices everyday and say "I'm sorry."
The article says 20 THOUSAND, not 20 MILLION... That's why I ask. What good is the money?
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The article says 20 THOUSAND, not 20 MILLION... That's why I ask. What good is the money?
The $20,000 settlement is being paid out to 500 eligible Canadians.
I meant to type $ 10 million, not $20. The '1' key is too close to the '2' key. :(
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The $20,000 settlement is being paid out to 500 eligible Canadians.
I meant to type $ 10 million, not $20. The '1' key is too close to the '2' key. :(
Ah, I see... how much is 10 Million to the government though? How much is 20K to an individual? Does it make that much of a difference?
That's all I'm wondering.
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Ah, I see... how much is 10 Million to the government though? How much is 20K to an individual? Does it make that much of a difference?
That's all I'm wondering.
It is a token payment granted, ...however $20,000 can have an impact.
At 107 yrs. old, I'm not sure what it will do for his life, ...but for other seniors on a fixed income it can make a difference, and it can be used to cover university education for grandkids etc., contribute to the downpayment on a house... there is a lot that can be done with $20K. If you don't believe me... send me $20K and I'll show you. :P
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haha $20k is a lot of work you don't have to do.
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It is a token payment granted, ...however $20,000 can have an impact.
At 107 yrs. old, I'm not sure what it will do for his life, ...but for other seniors on a fixed income it can make a difference, and it can be used to cover university education for grandkids etc., contribute to the downpayment on a house... there is a lot that can be done with $20K. If you don't believe me... send me $20K and I'll show you. :P
I'm just saying that 20K is ok... it's not all that.
If I send you 20K am I getting something in return?
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I'm just saying that 20K is ok... it's not all that.
If I send you 20K am I getting something in return?
if you send me 20k, you'll get a thanks buddy in return
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if you send me 20k, you'll get a thanks buddy in return
I'll be ok wit one less thanks then.
:D
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I'm just saying that 20K is ok... it's not all that.
If I send you 20K am I getting something in return?
of course. :D
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of course. :D
It better not be some of those fuel additives... I don't drive.
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It better not be some of those fuel additives... I don't drive.
Not a "fuel additive" per se, ...but rather a "combustion chamber conditioner" :P
It does nothing to the fuel itself, ...it simply disperses in the fuel, in order to get where it needs to go...
...once inside the 'combustion chamber', ...that's where it works it's magic
You can click here for a video explaination of how it works (http://www.jme.myffi.biz) <--click me
You could call it Viagra for your car, ...it makes your engine do what it's supposed to do even better. :D
...but for $20K, ...I'd certainly give you more than that. ;)
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Thank god!!! I need a little slut in my life... I think more women should be honest about their sluttiness... It's great.
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This guy deserved it for having to live through that garbage.
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This guy deserved it for having to live through that garbage.
Not saying he didn't... I think my point is that he deserved MORE than 20K... A LOT MORE!
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Thank god!!! I need a little slut in my life... I think more women should be honest about their sluttiness... It's great.
:o :o Who's talking about giving you sexual favours? I meant I'd throw in some ProArgi9 as well. ;D
ps - I said some of my girlfriends are sluts, ...but I'm not. :)
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:o :o Who's talking about giving you sexual favours? I meant I'd throw in some ProArgi9 as well. ;D
ps - I said some of my girlfriends are sluts, ...but I'm not. :)
I did not say you were giving me any sexual favors... I talk to you online therefore you are in my life.
You need to stop thinking so nasty all the time.
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I'll send my girlfriend over to visit you as well. If you have the right qualifications, ...I'm sure she'd be eager
...do you have a resumé of 'special skills' I might forward to her? :P
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I'll send my girlfriend over to visit you as well. If you have the right qualifications, ...I'm sure she'd be eager
...do you have a resumé of 'special skills' I might forward to her? :P
My resume is actually quite short for my special skills.
Past History: Will do anything when needed.
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Jag is experienced I bet.. :D
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My resume is actually quite short for my special skills.
Past History: Will do anything when needed.
Apparently there are a few people around here who need the living $#iT kicked out of them!
...would you do that for me? {batting my eyelashes} :)
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Apparently there are a few people around here who need the living $#iT kicked out of them!
...would you do that for me? {batting my eyelashes} :)
Hi Israel.
;D
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Apparently there are a few people around here who need the living $#iT kicked out of them!
...would you do that for me? {batting my eyelashes} :)
Haha... so you're saying I gotta give you 20K and I get the "privilege" of kicking $#iT out of someone....
Why do I feel that I'm getting the short end of the proverbial stick here.
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Haha... so you're saying I gotta give you 20K and I get the "privilege" of kicking $#iT out of someone....
Why do I feel that I'm getting the short end of the proverbial stick here.
Isn't that how America operates? ???
Confooosed, ...then please see 240's cheeky little comment that preceded yours. ;)
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Isn't that how America operates? ???
Confooosed, ...then please see 240's cheeky little comment that preceded yours. ;)
It's not how "I" operate.
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It's not how "I" operate.
so much for "Will do anything when needed" :-\
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so much for "Will do anything when needed" :-\
I just didn't see the "need".
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Just 5 days after receiving his reparations settlement from the Cdn gov., 107 yr. old Ralph Lee passed away. :'(
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Just 5 days after receiving his reparations settlement from the Cdn gov., 107 yr. old Ralph Lee passed away. :'(
See... the money wasn't shit.
It's not about money... it never is.
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See... the money wasn't shit.
It's not about money... it never is.
It was a token payment. I'm not saying otherwise, however, it makes a statement no matter how small.
That man had to work for 5 yrs to pay off the $500 headtax when he arrived in 1912.
I'm sure his great grand kids can benefit from it.
And again, ...if you think $20K is so much chopped liver, give it to me and I will prove you wrong. :P
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It was a token payment. I'm not saying otherwise, however, it makes a statement no matter how small.
That man had to work for 5 yrs to pay off the $500 headtax when he arrived in 1912.
I'm sure his great grand kids can benefit from it.
And again, ...if you think $20K is so much chopped liver, give it to me and I will prove you wrong. :P
I'm just saying that it's not the HUGE chunk you're making it sound like.
Also, I don't give money away... that's just irresponsible.
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thats gay as hell he had to reach 107 to get it
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I'm just saying that it's not the HUGE chunk you're making it sound like.
Also, I don't give money away... that's just irresponsible.
It's not necessarily the amount, ...but rather how it is used that makes the difference.
ps - Who's talking about giving it away? ...just consider it an investment. :P
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thats gay as hell he had to reach 107 to get it
True, ...but better late than never.
There were many before him who passed away before seeing any apology or settlement of any kind.
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True, ...but better late than never.
There were many before him who passed away before seeing any apology or settlement of any kind.
Thats fucked...Dude dies right after the money...talk about bad timing.
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It's not necessarily the amount, ...but rather how it is used that makes the difference.
ps - Who's talking about giving it away? ...just consider it an investment. :P
An an investment on what?