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Title: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: muscleforlife on March 12, 2007, 05:11:18 AM
Heard a blurb on the news last night.
Halliburton is moving it's headquarters from Texas to Dubai.

I guess the pipeline must be close to  being finished.
Sandra
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2007, 05:15:54 AM
Bush is moving to Paraguay in 2009.

Is the US going to be an un-fun place to live soon?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 24KT on March 12, 2007, 06:43:14 AM
Bush is moving to Paraguay in 2009.

Is the US going to be an un-fun place to live soon?

Not to worry, ...for those of you who don't mind a little decriminalized marijuana, legal same sex marriage,
legal toplessness on women, and free health insurance, ...there's always Canada.  :P the weather sucks tho

(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/Canada-looks.jpg)

Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Straw Man on March 12, 2007, 10:01:45 AM
Not to worry, ...for those of you who don't mind a little decriminalized marijuana, legal same sex marriage,
legal toplessness on women, and free health insurance, ...there's always Canada.  :P the weather sucks tho

(http://platinum.funpic.org/images/Canada-looks.jpg)


can I come visit you?  Where are some nice places to live?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Straw Man on March 12, 2007, 10:03:39 AM
BTW - Halliburton is under Justice Department Securities and Exchange Commission investigation over allegations of improper dealings in Iraq, Kuwait and Nigeria and .....probably just a coincidence but Dubai has no extradition agreement with the US
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: OzmO on March 12, 2007, 10:09:31 AM
BTW - Halliburton is under Justice Department Securities and Exchange Commission investigation over allegations of improper dealings in Iraq, Kuwait and Nigeria and .....probably just a coincidence but Dubai has no extradition agreement with the US

Wow,  imagine that!
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2007, 10:48:31 AM
BTW - Halliburton is under Justice Department Securities and Exchange Commission investigation over allegations of improper dealings in Iraq, Kuwait and Nigeria and .....probably just a coincidence but Dubai has no extradition agreement with the US

coincidentally, Pres Bush bought 100,000 acres for a new living compound down there in Paraguay.  His family has been down there a lot.  And they have a non-extradition policy for political crimes, coincidentally.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on March 12, 2007, 10:51:52 AM
BTW - Halliburton is under Justice Department Securities and Exchange Commission investigation over allegations of improper dealings in Iraq, Kuwait and Nigeria and .....probably just a coincidence but Dubai has no extradition agreement with the US

Wow, who would have figured?

Can this whole Iraq War get anymore effed up? What a disaster.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Tre on March 12, 2007, 04:31:14 PM

How many dead Americans helped pave the way for Halliburton's profitable move? 

Great work, guys!
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 24KT on March 12, 2007, 04:33:44 PM
can I come visit you?  Where are some nice places to live?

Yes. You seem like an OK guy.

Some great places to live are Toronto of course, ...but prices are a little steep, ...and Montreal.  ;)
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: ribonucleic on March 12, 2007, 04:38:38 PM
coincidentally, Pres Bush bought 100,000 acres for a new living compound down there in Paraguay.  His family has been down there a lot.  And they have a non-extradition policy for political crimes, coincidentally.

1% of the population owns 77% of the land. It's a Bush kind of place.  ::)

Ah, I'm just wallowing in class envy. I've always wanted to have a compound.  :(
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 12, 2007, 04:46:13 PM
How many dead Americans helped pave the way for Halliburton's profitable move? 

Great work, guys!

Good job, headhunter.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 24KT on March 12, 2007, 04:52:14 PM
Good job, headhunter.

That's not very nice. In fact, that is completely uncalled for and out of line.

Headhunter may have been an unwilling participant in nefarious doings, but he was a soldier willing to put his life on the line to protect your ass, and deserves at least some degree of respectful consideration for that.

He's not Halliburton, and he doesn't make decisions for Halliburton.

If this thing had gone according to plan, how the idiots fantasized it would turn out, people would be hailing HH as a hero. Bottom line is, he at least has the balls to stand up and put his life on the line for you. Even if it was due to a pack of lie that he bought hook, line, and sinker, ...it is more than so many others are willing to do. Now show the man some respect.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2007, 05:16:38 PM
didn't headhunter re-enlist after being exposed to 9/11 truth?


Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 12, 2007, 05:45:12 PM
That's not very nice. In fact, that is completely uncalled for and out of line.

Headhunter may have been an unwilling participant in nefarious doings, but he was a soldier willing to put his life on the line to protect your ass, and deserves at least some degree of respectful consideration for that.

He's not Halliburton, and he doesn't make decisions for Halliburton.

If this thing had gone according to plan, how the idiots fantasized it would turn out, people would be hailing HH as a hero. Bottom line is, he at least has the balls to stand up and put his life on the line for you. Even if it was due to a pack of lie that he bought hook, line, and sinker, ...it is more than so many others are willing to do. Now show the man some respect.

Oh brother...  ::) I think he's perfectly aware of everything as are you and I, but does it despite that, as do alot of other military folk.

I respect headhunter, maybe more so than you. I have friends serving in the armed forces and I want their ass back safe. But my respect for them will not blind me from saying what I have to say and from the truth.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2007, 06:01:20 PM
That's not very nice. In fact, that is completely uncalled for and out of line.

Headhunter may have been an unwilling participant in nefarious doings, but he was a soldier willing to put his life on the line to protect your ass, and deserves at least some degree of respectful consideration for that.

He's not Halliburton, and he doesn't make decisions for Halliburton.

If this thing had gone according to plan, how the idiots fantasized it would turn out, people would be hailing HH as a hero. Bottom line is, he at least has the balls to stand up and put his life on the line for you. Even if it was due to a pack of lie that he bought hook, line, and sinker, ...it is more than so many others are willing to do. Now show the man some respect.

Jag . . . is that you?   :o

 :)
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 24KT on March 12, 2007, 09:38:18 PM
Oh brother...  ::) I think he's perfectly aware of everything as are you and I, but does it despite that, as do alot of other military folk.

And there's a reason for that. The sooner you understand the reasoning, the sooner you'll be able to place the blame where it properly belongs, ...and it's not on the backs of those who were at least fortunate enough to survive the killing fields they were so callously thrown into.  He's back state-side now. He's just left one war-zone, don't throw him into another. Give him a bit of time to allow the truth to seep in.

Quote
I respect headhunter, maybe more so than you. I have friends serving in the armed forces and I want their ass back safe. But my respect for them will not blind me from saying what I have to say and from the truth.

How can you respect those who you blame? That doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain it?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 12, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
Heard a blurb on the news last night.
Halliburton is moving it's headquarters from Texas to Dubai.



MattT foresaw this move months ago, and set up "business interests" in Dubai, India!  ;D
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 12, 2007, 10:34:56 PM
I don't like this.  I have never been a fan of American companies outsourcing work outside of the U.S.  There is just something un-American about it. 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Tre on March 13, 2007, 09:25:19 AM
I don't like this.  I have never been a fan of American companies outsourcing work outside of the U.S.  There is just something un-American about it. 

Exactly.  Especially when Americans have paid billions of dollars and lost thousands of lives to make it happen.

Now that Halliburton has its move set, we should call for an immediate cease-fire and withdrawal. 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 240 is Back on March 13, 2007, 09:30:29 AM
1. Haliburton doesn't face a corporate tax in Dubai

2. US will be running fullscale oil operations in the middle east for the next 100 years, and HB/KBR are the firms running it all.  Closer to the action.

3. Haliburton is facing multiple investigations for fraud of course, and when Bush/Cheny leave office, they will no longer be able to protect them.

4. US economy up for a major dump.  Real estate will fall first (did you see the #2 lender in US is about to declare benkruptcy?) which will drop Dow and then the floor falls out.  Haliburton doesn't want to see stock hit.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Cavalier22 on March 13, 2007, 10:59:53 AM
They will still have to pay US corporate taxes for some time, I heard on the radio today.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: ribonucleic on March 13, 2007, 11:12:48 AM
<< Remember the big brouhaha that arose when a Dubai-based company was in line to take over the operation of several major U.S. ports last year? Members of Congress were in high dudgeon over that and in the end the plan was abandoned.

So how do we feel knowing that virtually the entire supply line for our over-extended troops in Iraq and Afghanistan is now in the hands of a Dubai corporation, and that it has its hooks into the central policy arm of our government, Blair House and the Office of the Vice President?

Next time Halliburton's KBR subsidiary serves our troops toxic, bacteria-ridden food, or puts untreated Euphrates River water into their canteens, maybe we should look harder to see if this was just another case of corporate corner and cost-cutting, or whether something more sinister was at work.

We--and members of Congress, if they still remember how to do their job--ought to be asking whether Halliburton's move to Dubai has anything to do with anticipated business should Cheney get his way and the U.S. attacks Iran this spring. Since such a war would inevitably include the destruction of much of Iran's state-owned oil industry, it would represent a huge new business opportunity for Halliburton, which first and foremost is an oil-services company.

Seeing all this is much easier with Halliburton based in Dubai, rather than Houston. Especially when you also consider the new oil law written by America and passed by the Iraqi parliament, which opens Iraq's oil reserves to American oil companies.

The American soldiers and marines stuck in Iraq, who have long been led to believe that they are over there fighting to defend America, should have little trouble these days seeing that they are really fighting and dying for Halliburton, Exxon/Mobil and Chevronand Dubai. >>

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff03132007.html
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 11:44:12 AM
They will still have to pay US corporate taxes for some time, I heard on the radio today.

I doubt the corporation pays much in taxes anyway.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Cavalier22 on March 13, 2007, 12:38:25 PM
Corporations pay a shitload of taxes. Why do you think they always try to have fake holding companies in the Caymens and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: 240 is Back on March 13, 2007, 01:17:46 PM
I doubt the corporation pays much in taxes anyway.

What do you consider 'much'?

They have something like 18B (KBR) and 13B (HB) dollar contracts.

Surely they pay something on that 30+ billion?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
Corporations pay a shitload of taxes. Why do you think they always try to have fake holding companies in the Caymens and stuff like that.

Not the good ones.   :)  The well run corporations pay out most of their profits (that aren't reinvested in the company) to shareholders, which reduces their taxable income. 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 01:34:45 PM
What do you consider 'much'?

They have something like 18B (KBR) and 13B (HB) dollar contracts.

Surely they pay something on that 30+ billion?

http://stuartbuck.blogspot.com/2004/01/halliburton.html

Says they paid $15 million in 2002.  If true, that is a drop in the bucket.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: ribonucleic on March 13, 2007, 01:57:45 PM
http://stuartbuck.blogspot.com/2004/01/halliburton.html

Says they paid $15 million in 2002.  If true, that is a drop in the bucket.

"The real problem with Halliburton? Dick Cheney used to be the CEO. That's it. If he had headed up MTV prior to being Vice-President, the left would be constantly complaining about the latest season of The Real World and the lack of any good music videos these days."

Amusing. Also as much evidence as I need that the author is not someone worth taking seriously. 

Besides, we've been complaining about the lack of videos on MTV since before Cheney seized power.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
"The real problem with Halliburton? Dick Cheney used to be the CEO. That's it. If he had headed up MTV prior to being Vice-President, the left would be constantly complaining about the latest season of The Real World and the lack of any good music videos these days."

Amusing. Also as much evidence as I need that the author is not someone worth taking seriously. 

Besides, we've been complaining about the lack of videos on MTV since before Cheney seized power.

good point. 

VH1 is starting to do the same shit.

Does Cheney own that too?   ;D
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 02:04:43 PM
I bet VH1 doesn't pay much in taxes either.   :)
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2007, 02:05:44 PM
I bet VH1 doesn't pay much in taxes either.   :)

You know what though,  i wonder what they paid after 2003?  '04, '05, '06?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 02:08:53 PM
You know what though,  i wonder what they paid after 2003?  '04, '05, '06?

Why?
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2007, 02:10:03 PM
Why?

Well you said Halliburton only paid 15  million in taxes in 2002 right?  Well they didn't get major rich until after the Iraq war. 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 02:15:06 PM
Well you said Halliburton only paid 15  million in taxes in 2002 right?  Well they didn't get major rich until after the Iraq war. 

Well, the company itself is never rich.  It's the shareholders, officers, directors, and employees who make the money. 

I didn't say they paid $15 million in taxes in 02.  I quoted a link that said this.  I have no idea if that number is accurate.  I also don't know what they made before 02, but I would imagine they were a Fortune 500 company before 02? 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2007, 02:26:47 PM
Don't know what they paid in taxes, but here is where they went on the Fortune 500 list from 01 to 06:

01: 148
02: 153
03: 153
04: 122
05: 101
06: 103



Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Tre on March 13, 2007, 03:41:04 PM

Along with Dick Cheney, one of the Halliburton people was also part of the scandal at Walter Reed.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 14, 2007, 10:14:00 AM
I don't like this.  I have never been a fan of American companies outsourcing work outside of the U.S.  There is just something un-American about it. 

This isn't a case of outsourcing... most of the jobs are staying in Houston.  It's just the CEO and his crew who are "moving".  I think 240 is probably closer to the truth about their motives.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2007, 10:38:05 AM
This isn't a case of outsourcing... most of the jobs are staying in Houston.  It's just the CEO and his crew who are "moving".  I think 240 is probably closer to the truth about their motives.

We'll see.  I'll be surprised if they don't hire a significant number of foreigners to help run their operation. 
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 14, 2007, 10:42:21 AM
Don't know what they paid in taxes, but here is where they went on the Fortune 500 list from 01 to 06:

01: 148
02: 153
03: 153
04: 122
05: 101
06: 103





Gone up since 9/11. Big surprise.
Title: Re: Halliburton headquarters moving
Post by: ribonucleic on March 14, 2007, 10:49:23 AM
Gone up since 9/11. Big surprise.

If I was a market player, I'd have bought Halliburton stock the day the Supreme Court decided Bush v. Gore.