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Title: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 18, 2007, 07:52:26 AM
Tom Delay on Meet the Press:
"Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"

He also said that protesting the war and talking impeachment is un-American.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: Parker on March 18, 2007, 08:05:45 AM
Tom Delay on Meet the Press:
"Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"

He also said that protesting the war and talking impeachment is un-American.

I like how people say questioning the motives of a corrupt adminstration and protesting it is un-American. They use that to try and shut people up. It woun't work this time. It is Un-American to send Americans in harms way under the guise of a lie. Or is it? It has been done at least three times before.
 Setting a time line wil not aid and abet the enemy. Iraqi's need to stand up for Iraqi's, they need to fight for their own country.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: youandme on March 18, 2007, 11:51:03 AM
Why is that convict even talking.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 18, 2007, 11:54:07 AM
Why is that convict even talking.

Good point.  I wonder why he doesn't consider corruption or illegal fundraising to be un-American. 

But aside from that, the Constitution gives people the right to protest and the ability to impeach if indeed the President committed crimes.  Delay equates using constitutional rights are un-american, which means he considers at least part of the constitution to be anti-american.

I would think that delay wiping his ass with our nation's most precious document might be of assistance to al quida too.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: muscleforlife on March 18, 2007, 03:08:47 PM
Even after being convicted, Delay still has that "in Power" smirk that people who think they are above the law have.

Cheney's smirk is even worse.  I just want to smack them across the face.

Sandra
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: Parker on March 18, 2007, 03:39:37 PM
Good point.  I wonder why he doesn't consider corruption or illegal fundraising to be un-American. 

But aside from that, the Constitution gives people the right to protest and the ability to impeach if indeed the President committed crimes.  Delay equates using constitutional rights are un-american, which means he considers at least part of the constitution to be anti-american.

I would think that delay wiping his ass with our nation's most precious document might be of assistance to al quida too.

Quite true....

Ironic isn't it
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 18, 2007, 04:35:07 PM
He should keep his fucking mouth shut.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 24KT on March 19, 2007, 07:19:08 AM
Even after being convicted, Delay still has that "in Power" smirk that people who think they are above the law have.

Cheney's smirk is even worse.  I just want to smack them across the face.

Sandra

I would pay good money to see it happen too.  :P
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: youandme on March 19, 2007, 07:30:47 AM
Even after being convicted, Delay still has that "in Power" smirk that people who think they are above the law have.

Cheney's smirk is even worse.  I just want to smack them across the face.

Sandra

I know what you mean, don't worry once he's in a federal prison it will go right away, the only thing they can do is keep holding the trial back delaying the inevitable. Maybe for the time being he should go back to bug extermination.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 19, 2007, 07:50:11 AM
Tom Delay on Meet the Press:
"Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"

He also said that protesting the war and talking impeachment is un-American.

Only an Idiot thinks that telling the enemy we will be out in Sept 08 doesn't help them.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 09:58:50 AM
Only an Idiot thinks that telling the enemy we will be out in Sept 08 doesn't help them.

the repub controlled pentagon said oct 2008.

so you might wanna yell at your own party for shitting where they eat.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 19, 2007, 09:59:45 AM
the repub controlled pentagon said oct 2008.

so you might wanna yell at your own party for shitting where they eat.

As always you don't take the time to listent o anyone. I am not a Reb, and have been as critical on the GOP on here as anyone.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2007, 04:54:26 PM
As always you don't take the time to listent o anyone. I am not a Reb, and have been as critical on the GOP on here as anyone.

good.

The #2 man at the pentagon told us last week that we will wrap up iraq operations in Oct 2008, just in time for elections.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 05:51:27 AM
good.

The #2 man at the pentagon told us last week that we will wrap up iraq operations in Oct 2008, just in time for elections.

Yeah that probably won't help out the insurgents... "hey guys, if you can hold out just a tad longer we will pack our last bag on 31 Sept '08 before the fiscal year starts. Then you guys can have the declared capital of your talifaith to start your world domination".
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 05:53:55 AM
Yeah that probably won't help out the insurgents... "hey guys, if you can hold out just a tad longer we will pack our last bag on 31 Sept '08 before the fiscal year starts. Then you guys can have the declared capital of your talifaith to start your world domination".

no offense dude, but if the mighty US military, with the assistance of an iraqi military/police we've been trianing for 2 years, cannot beat up the insurgency by then...

well..

they need to stop making excuses.  Germany/Japan/Italy fell faster.  You're telling me that our 150,000 men can't snuff out 2000 assholes in 6 years?  Fuck that.  Do your job and get out of there.  If they can't do it in 6 years, it's pathetic.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 05:56:57 AM
no offense dude, but if the mighty US military, with the assistance of an iraqi military/police we've been trianing for 2 years, cannot beat up the insurgency by then...

well..

they need to stop making excuses.  Germany/Japan/Italy fell faster.  You're telling me that our 150,000 men can't snuff out 2000 assholes in 6 years?  Fuck that.  Do your job and get out of there.  If they can't do it in 6 years, it's pathetic.

If you caught 60 minutes this weekend you would realize why it is taking so long. The american public won't let the military do it's job. If one civilian dies the public gets in an uproar and calls the military murders and rapists. You KNOW that if it was no hold barred it would be different but the ROE won't allow it.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 05:58:37 AM
If you caught 60 minutes this weekend you would realize why it is taking so long. The american public won't let the military do it's job. If one civilian dies the public gets in an uproar and calls the military murders and rapists. You KNOW that if it was no hold barred it would be different but the ROE won't allow it.

Oh, piss off mate.  Seriously.  We gave you a blank check for 4 years that you still enjoy.  We let you guys use torture for God's sake. 

You spend $200 million a day, and you're blaming the opinions of AMericans, on why you can't win? 

Excuses, excuses. 
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:00:45 AM
Oh, piss off mate.  Seriously.  We gave you a blank check for 4 years that you still enjoy.  We let you guys use torture for God's sake. 

You spend $200 million a day, and you're blaming the opinions of AMericans, on why you can't win? 

Excuses, excuses. 

You just can't accept it can you? The military doesn't have a blank check. If we did we would just drop a few bombs and be done with. I admire your nieveness though.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:18:31 AM
You just can't accept it can you? The military doesn't have a blank check. If we did we would just drop a few bombs and be done with. I admire your nieveness though.

I'm sorry, you are restrained by the geneva convention and US non-nuclear action treaties.

Sure, I see how joe lunchbox here in the US caused that.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:19:13 AM
You just can't accept it can you? The military doesn't have a blank check. If we did we would just drop a few bombs and be done with. I admire your nieveness though.

so the only way that 150,000 troops with the best technology in the world can beat 2000 insurgents with AKs, is to use nuclear weapons, huh?
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:20:18 AM
I'm sorry, you are restrained by the geneva convention and US non-nuclear action treaties.

Sure, I see how joe lunchbox here in the US caused that.

No you are right, I just forgot. It is because Bush is making billions of this war. The military commanders don't weigh public sentiment when developing ROE. My bad. I'm glad you know so much about the military
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:27:29 AM
No you are right, I just forgot. It is because Bush is making billions of this war. The military commanders don't weigh public sentiment when developing ROE. My bad. I'm glad you know so much about the military

explain it then.

WHy can't 150,000 of the worlds best military defeat 2000 insurgents?
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:27:54 AM
so the only way that 150,000 troops with the best technology in the world can beat 2000 insurgents with AKs, is to use nuclear weapons, huh?

I don't think you watch much News. We aren't fighting face to face, you probably missed that though. And you probably missed the fact that in every instance where we have fought face to face we have kicked their ass. Problem is all your chicken shit cousins are over there setting road side bombs and won't fight face to face. See you clearly never excelled in History either. If you look at the wars back through history you will se a trend. The wars weren't won by defeating the military, they were won by defeating the public sentiment. We have done that in everywar we have ever won (with the exception of the first gulf war) In Japan, Germany etc... those countries gave up because they lost support of the public. The Insurgents are alot smarter than you and realize that by beating people like you and causing the american people to lose their support for the war is the only way they will win.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:30:31 AM
You just can't accept it can you? The military doesn't have a blank check. If we did we would just drop a few bombs and be done with. I admire your nieveness though.

please tell us why 150,000 troops cannot beat 2000 insurgents, without the use of nukes?
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:30:40 AM
explain it then.

WHy can't 150,000 of the worlds best military defeat 2000 insurgents?

You really suprise me at your lack of common sense. You are so blinded by your hatred of Bush to see the truth of what is going on in the Iraq war. Luckily the silent majority in America is coming out of their shell (see the rallies last weekend) and they have enough backbone to make up for your lack of one to help America win this war on terror.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:32:21 AM
IProblem is all your chicken shit cousins are over there setting road side bombs and won't fight face to face.

my chicken shit cousins?

I'm an American, dude.  I don't know who you're thinking of.  Calling me an iraqi cause I question your performance ability is a bitch move and you know it.  

ANd I have high standards for my military, and I have high standards for $200 million a day of my tax dollars being spent.

Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:33:38 AM
You really suprise me at your lack of common sense. You are so blinded by your hatred of Bush to see the truth of what is going on in the Iraq war. Luckily the silent majority in America is coming out of their shell (see the rallies last weekend) and they have enough backbone to make up for your lack of one to help America win this war on terror.


silent majority?  20% fewer americans support the war than 3 years ago.

I don't see why my opinion has jack shit influence on your opinion in the field, dude.

If you need a pat on the butt and a kind word to go out and obliderate the fuckers, you should do your own gut check dude.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:34:49 AM
my chicken shit cousins?

I'm an American, dude.  I don't know who you're thinking of.  Calling me an iraqi cause I question your performance ability is a bitch move and you know it.  

ANd I have high standards for my military, and I have high standards for $200 million a day of my tax dollars being spent.



I didn't call you Iraqi, but they posses the same chicken shit genes you posses.....like I said, I guess you think the commanders don't take pussy american sentiment like yours into consideration when they develop the ROE...my bad
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2007, 06:36:22 AM
I didn't call you Iraqi, but they posses the same chicken shit genes you posses.....like I said, I guess you think the commanders don't take pussy american sentiment like yours into consideration when they develop the ROE...my bad

i'm no chicken shit.  i think we're wasting US lives standing on street corners.  we need to leave the cities and guard the pipeline, border, and bases.  Let the iraqi police take those risks. 

dude, i just want you guys out of danger.  nothing chicken shit about that. 
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:37:57 AM

silent majority?  20% fewer americans support the war than 3 years ago.

I don't see why my opinion has jack shit influence on your opinion in the field, dude.

If you need a pat on the butt and a kind word to go out and obliderate the fuckers, you should do your own gut check dude.

Your polls are crazy 240 face it. Like Isaid why did the supporters out number the haters 3 to 1 this past weekend. That is basically a poll in itself and if you figure it out then that means 66% support the war. Your calling Marines murders affects the ROE, plain and simple because in the military we learn from history and realize the only way we will lose is if the will of the nation is defeated. You clearly didn't read my History response a few back. Must have been to factual for you.
Title: Re: "Setting a date for withdrawl from Iraq = aiding and abetting the enemy"
Post by: militarymuscle69 on March 20, 2007, 06:39:06 AM
i'm no chicken shit.  i think we're wasting US lives standing on street corners.  we need to leave the cities and guard the pipeline, border, and bases.  Let the iraqi police take those risks. 

dude, i just want you guys out of danger.  nothing chicken shit about that. 

We have discussed this before and have a semi agreement, and I do apologize for lumping you in with the pull out now crowd.