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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: garraeth on March 26, 2007, 11:18:01 PM
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After the third round of the giant set we did for chest, we were doing incline barbell presses with 95lbs and barely able to get a single rep.
Fucken awesome.
Surreal that we're being trained by the #1 pro bodybuilder trainer in the world. Dayymmm.
.......so, no. No pink dumbells just yet. Maybe next chest workout tho... ;D
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which one are you, the tall drunk or the lazy-eyed asian?
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After the third round of the giant set we did for chest, we were doing incline barbell presses with 95lbs and barely able to get a single rep.
Fucken awesome.
Surreal that we're being trained by the #1 pro bodybuilder trainer in the world. Dayymmm.
.......so, no. No pink dumbells just yet. Maybe next chest workout tho... ;D
Good job! You own big guns eh? ;D
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there's $500 well spent....
Peace
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there's $500 well spent....
Peace
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dont tell me he paid that to train with him LOL
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dont tell me he paid that to train with him LOL
lol thats how much milos charges per hour
125$ per 15minutes...BRUTALLL!
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo o Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
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Milos charge around 200 - 300 per hour
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Milos charge around 200 - 300 per hour
crazy who would pay that??
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crazy who would pay that??
probably people who knew that when it was time to pay, they would bounce..
**cough** Mustafa**cough**
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ill train you for half that money. sooner or later, you wont be abel to complete a rep with me either. thats how the body works. aint no rocket science
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probably people who knew that when it was time to pay, they would bounce..
**cough** Mustafa**cough**
haha gaerreth must be trying to pull the same thing as his hero
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crazy who would pay that??
Not everyone is a broke ass bum like you.
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crazy who would pay that??
hahaha, exactly BP
You gotta laugh at these idiots that think lifting weights and growing is the hardest thing to learn or
do on the planet.
If you ate good, you could lift tree logs and rocks and build a great physique. I know a guy who
was 220 hard as nails that did nothing but pushups, situps, chins and lunges at playgrounds for
months at a time.
I can't imagine someone is dumb enough to fork over 100's of dollars to do cable curls and leg
extensions with someone. ::)
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haha gaerreth must be trying to pull the same thing as his hero
hahahah yes benji ..right on target..
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Not everyone is a broke ass bum like you.
or as stupid as you
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hahaha, exactly BP
You gotta laugh at these idiots that think lifting weights and growing is the hardest thing to learn or
do on the planet.
If you ate good, you could lift tree logs and rocks and build a great physique. I know a guy who
was 220 hard as nails that did nothing but pushups, situps, chins and lunges at playgrounds for
months at a time.
I can't imagine someone is dumb enough to fork over 100's of dollars to do cable curls and leg
extensions with someone. ::)
I know some of these fat slobs are pathetic.... lift heavy eat big to crow.... cut calories to cut... its not rocket science ::)
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Hey, Milos, has your bank account reach the one million mark, yet. If not, you might start charging $600-800 per session ;D
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Milos charge around 200 - 300 per hour
Professional lawyers and accountants charge that much per hour, so why cant Milos.
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I wonder how much Hide is paying to Milos.........
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hahaha, exactly BP
If you ate good, you could lift tree logs and rocks and build a great physique. I know a guy who
was 220 hard as nails that did nothing but pushups, situps, chins and lunges at playgrounds for
months at a time.
Old Rooster. Is that you?
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After the third round of the giant set we did for chest, we were doing incline barbell presses with 95lbs and barely able to get a single rep.
Fucken awesome.
Surreal that we're being trained by the #1 pro bodybuilder trainer in the world. Dayymmm.
.......so, no. No pink dumbells just yet. Maybe next chest workout tho... ;D
So 3 giant sets to failure for $500? Again, just so I'm clear, that was $500 to train chest to failure using giant sets?
Did Milos show y'all how to operate the gym water fountain also?
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So 3 giant sets to failure for $500? Again, just so I'm clear, that was $500 to train chest to failure using giant sets?
Did Milos show y'all how to operate the gym water fountain also?
hahaha no thats an extra 200
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hahah, yea we got so screwed that we're going back every Monday, Thursday and Saturday...
Y'all are gonna get huuuuuuuge.
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Damm straight.
Try not to snicker when Milos waxes poetic on techniques for developing huge guns.
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$200 to lift weights for an hour? were you getting sucked off in between sets? was there a hooker provided?
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haha Milos gave him a happy ending. Garreath said it was worth every dollar.
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haha Milos gave him a happy ending. Garreath said it was worth every dollar.
haha
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We're doing arms Thursday...should be cool. My tris lag.
And you're payin for arm advice from Milos?
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i'd pay $500 to see MOS curling 110 pound dumbbells for 8+ reps ::)
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i'd pay $500 to see MOS curling 110 pound dumbbells for 8+ reps ::)
You'd pay $500 to watch me wipe my ass.
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You'd pay $500 to watch me wipe my ass.
No, that I can believe you would actually be able to do ;D
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And I'm guessing probably legs on Saturday. Apparently Milos is nororious for destrying legs.
Should be a good challenge. ;D
Now that I have absolutely nothin bad to say.....Milos has fantastic legs.....no doubt about it......for that you better be ready!
For arms....not so much.......curlin a broomstick with two empty dixie cups on the end for 90 sets probably won't kill ya.
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Try this one. Take no gear and train with Milos. See how all the "giant super sets" make you a monster. ::) Reality check.
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Don't worry garraeth, I respect the hell outta Milos.....I only give shit to those I know can handle it.
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Hey Garraeth, welcome to the HOUSE OF PAIN!!! 8)
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1) Why does everyone rip on Garraeth for being "obese" ??? - you don't look too overweight there
2) How much do you think you'll end up spending on Milos in total?
3) Do you think it was worth it?
Thanks.
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1) nope....some fat still but clearly visible abs.
2) his rates are posted on his site
3) absolutely.
The question was not what are his rates but how much do yout hink you'll spend on him in total?
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And why dont other pros like Nasser do the same? He placed much higher than Milos, so people should be willing to pay him the same or more.
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Yeah, kinda sucks doesn't it? Too bad you'll never know...
So are you saying Milos accepts "other" forms of payment? :P
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So are you saying Milos accepts "other" forms of payment? :P
lol
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That's a bit too pricey for me lol.
On one part of the page it says $350 for an hour consultation, and on another it says $500. Weird.
I can actually see myself doing the $120 15-minute phone consultation if he answers drug questions as well.
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Sweet man, thanks. So does this mean you won't run me off the road anymore? ;)
When was that bro???
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And I'm guessing probably legs on Saturday. Apparently Milos is nororious for destrying legs.
Should be a good challenge. ;D
Hey garraeth, make sure you get some pics of this workout and share with us. This is the one workout I have promised myself, if I'm ever in Milos' area, to stop in and try. And by try, I mean get flattened and humbled by. :)
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It's not like it's simple by any means. Either the concept, theory, or implementation.
Heh, don't kid yourself.
Take for example...
We spent all night doing chest. Light weights so we could get the form correct.
So we did flat bench flys.
Milos wants us to contract - at max - our pecs, and only our pecs, throughout the WHOLE range of motion.
Going up, it's pretty easy...it's your natural inclination to flex completely. But remember you have to flex completely all the way up, from the start, and go slow. 100% contraction generally means you're slamming your hands together at the top. That's not what we were doing.
So then, once you're arms are perpendicular to the ground, how do you keep your chest flexed? It's fucken hard.
Then as you lower the weight, how do you lower the weight in a controlled manner, while flexing your pecs as hard as you can? Sure you flex them a little normally, but not full-on contraction as you go down. That, too, is really hard.
No so hard in the sense that you start with HEAVY weights, just the coordination and inclusion of all fibers for each rep, no matter the weight.
It gets "heavy" ("hard" describes it better) after a couple reps. Cuz your hands, forearms, and shoulders are saying it's super light weight...while your pecs are saying it's super insane heavy weight.
We still sux at it and have to practice a lot more.
Garreath, you could have got this info for free on the fitshow episodes.
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haha, cool, and here are your pink dumbells. We weren't able to complete reps with just that small weight at the end of the giant set.
In the pic: Milos had us poke each other in the chest muscle while doing it so we could tell the difference when we flexed 100% vs/ partially. Like, if i flexed partially, Owen would yell at me to contract fully.
Good training exercise to help learn 100% contraction.
you've got big legs for a tall guy Garraeth.
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We spent 5 hours saturday discussing stuff. 2.5 hours Monday doing it and discussing.
So $3,750 over the weekend? (7.5 hours x $500)
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So $3,750 over the weekend? (7.5 hours x $500)
its a given that garraeth has the money man
if he can pay for training with the best in the world...then more power to him
i know if i had the money id train with milos too
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It's not about Milos, Milos looks great and if he can get a milliion dollars from a client good for him.
But as far as building a physique, if you don't compete and don't need prep advice to nail conditioning,
anyone can do it, there's no need to pay someone.
Everyone should know their own body best.
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I watched them. And you can learn some of it. But spoke word vs/ doing w/ the author is quite different.
And, hell, you really think that's ALL he talked about and ALL we did? That was just ONE example I was giving for Matt C.. We spent 5 hours saturday discussing stuff. 2.5 hours Monday doing it and discussing.
I am happy for you Garreath, it seems you have gotten your enthusiasm back & that's commendable. :)
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you remind me of a younger Odd Haugen, Garraeth, do you know who he is?
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Yeah sorry about last week...you were one of the few who actually showed concern for my fat state. Since it was me just pulling everyone's leg, and you're the only one who was cool about it (and Intenseone, but I already spoke w/ him on the phone), I'll say sorry to you. :)
We're cool Garreath. :) I appreciate the apology.
I met Milos a few weeks back when he was in Australia and had a brief chat with him... He's a straight up guy who knows BB.
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heh, yeah...I never saw him young, just old in the WSM...
even old he's still an absolute beast, he was in town for a National competition and him and a couple of guys came to the gym and were doing a truck pull in the parking lot and we look out the window and see this huge beer truck going by faster than anyone else ans it's this huge old man pulling it, 6'3" 295 pounds and in great shape.
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Yeah sorry about last week...you were one of the few who actually showed concern for my fat state. Since it was me just pulling everyone's leg, and you're the only one who was cool about it (and Intenseone, but I already spoke w/ him on the phone), I'll say sorry to you. :)
garraeth I think everyone knew that you were training and dieting your ass off, your self deprecating posts were a little overboard. I'm pretty sure everyone just liked calling you a fat slob because it was funny.
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heh, Vegas at the Olympia. I was in the taxi...
Sorry man!!! Here in Australia everything is on the left hand side so sometimes i forget!!! ;D ;)
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Sorry man!!! Here in Australia everything is on the left hand side so sometimes i forget!!! ;D ;)
hi Luke.
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I have a magic bullet ::)...Matt C - grow up...and just continue to eat right and train regularly...as you preach.
Some people like to study...and still finish only elementary school...some like higher education and continue their studies...and some just NEVER WANT TO STOP LEARNING...which should be the case with all of us.
I am still only a "student"...and I will continue my "studies" as long as I live.
There is SO MUCH MORE to training and EATING RIGHT than what average person knows...and some are interested and want to explore - to better themselves.
Garraeth and Owen are eager to learn and I am more than happy to teach them what I know.
What many of you don't realize or recognize:
- I started my own forum years ago - giving FREE ADVICE to thousands of people
- I volunteered to do FITSHOW so thousands of fans around the world would have a chance to learn from me FOR FREE (doing that I had to find the TIME...and in business world time is MONEY...from my busy schedule to film numerous shows. For filming all the episodes I received ZERO dollars and ZERO cents...and I charged Fitshow and bodybuilding.com - the same amount for filming their episodes in my gym...)
- Since than I allow FITSHOW guys to make GREAT 3 DVD set (4 hours of first class training +2 hours of first class nutritional information) and make it available to all of you for $40...(6 hours of my first class information for $40...and some would still complain). So, regardless of what I charge most of the guys would like to get everything for free...
Now, people that do come to me - they come FOR A REASON...and they stay FOR A REASON...but that reason many would not ever know - as they are just to cheap
Above mentioned DVD "Secrets of the Pros" I agreed to do - so guys from FITSHOW can make some money (we equally shared our profits).
I wanted to support them and the show - so they could continue what they started - which was AGAIN ultimately FOR YOU = THE FANS...
I realized that by giving my "secrets" on the show - I might dramatically reduce number of people coming to learn from me - as SO MUCH WAS SAID ON THE DVD...and for average trainees - it is MORE THAN SUFFICIENT...
For others that want to find out MORE - I make myself available personally - and still I have more clients that I can sometimes handle...
I have never had a single unsatisfied customer...and speaking of that - for people who were buying my DVD directly from me - I would give double the money back - guarantee...
I told them that if they anyhow believe that DVD is not worth what they paid for - I will send them double the money back...
I also haven't received ONE copy back - yet...
So, there you have it...
I will offer even ONE MORE THING (again - for the fans):
IF THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE INTERESTED HERE FROM GETBIG.COM (and you can invite "outsiders" as well) I WILL DO FREE SEMINAR (TRAINING AND NUTRITION) IN MY GYM...again to help serious guys interested to learn but not having the funds to hear few things from me...
I could even offer that seminar MONTHLY...again - to give back to my bodybuilding comunity...
Somehow I still don't think I would please everyone...
Oh well.
Garraeth, Owen - see you Thursday...8PM sharp!
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Anybody who has ever seen a pic of garraeth before knows that he could only be the owner of the "eyebrows of doom" towering over them.
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Milos, I'm just finishing this:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/battlefortheolympia2006dvdreview.html
Your section with Hide is on right now on the bonus disc but I won't review it until tomorrow. This whole review will take me three days in total - exactly why I put off reviewing your DVD until it was stolen (at least I think it was). From what I remember, your DVD was all from the Fit Show, so I will review it online...it will take me a long time to do it. I'm trying to dig up which episodes it is, which is why I sent you the PM. I don't want to buy another copy - I never pay for DVDs for bodybuilding stuff. ;D If you send me a review copy I will help you to promote your DVD, but I'm going to first try to look online for the episodes which comprised the DVD.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say about a healthy diet and exercise is that there is no special secret technique to make a person grow in the best way possible. We are all unique and the basics are the basics. Some people are convinced you are a magical guru who can somehow do what no one else can, and that is simply untrue. Only naive people will think so and that is not to say you are bad at what you do, I'm just saying once again, that the basics are the basics. The most important aspect of bodybuilding is consistency. This is where most people fail.
***Your section with Hide is on right now on the bonus disc but I won't review it until tomorrow.
Well, that was ONE workout done late at night after working all day (Olympia weekend)...It was far from special and not our usual...still - I hope Mits captured what was most important.
On some of the episodes of the FITSHOW when we were doing giant sets - footage doesn't show how we go from one exercise to another...and doesn't show COMPLETE SET - so many people would NOT get the right idea what we normally do...
I guess I will have to do another DVD to show exactly what I do...
Also, just so people understand the dedication of some guys...Friday, after the evening prejudging of 2006 Mr. Olympia I went to Gold's Gym (Flamingo) with Hide, Joel Stubbs and Kris Dim to train INSANE leg training. We trained from midnight until 2AM...and I wish someone taped THAT ONE...
Anyway...as far as consistency goes - my guys ARE always consistant...and therefore ALWAYS IN SHAPE (check out the photos of Hide and Silvio even today - on my board...)
****your DVD was all from the Fit Show
No, my DVD is way more comprehensive than Fitshow episodes...You can get idea on the show - but you have to see DVD to know the difference...
****I don't want to buy another copy - I never pay for DVDs for bodybuilding stuff.
As I said - some people are just too cheap...Too bad - I guess...
**** what I'm trying to say about a healthy diet and exercise is that there is no special secret technique to make a person grow in the best way possible.
::) ::) ::) YES IT IS...and all of us do have BEST WAY TO GROW...but as it is individual and depended on numerous things - one needs to KNOW much more than his or her own body and simple BASICS...Basic nutritional knowledge is NOT designed to create BODYBUILDERS...advanced nutrition and advanceknowledge COULD lead to ADVANCE BODY...But, you go ahead and stick with the basics and later wonder why you look basically the same year after year ;)
****Some people are convinced you are a magical guru who can somehow do what no one else can, and that is simply untrue.
Yes, my past, present and possibly future clients. I wonder why? Have any idea?
****Only naive people will think so and that is not to say you are bad at what you do, I'm just saying once again, that the basics are the basics.
;) Only naive people will think that there is no more than BASIC (nutrition, training....or whatever else...)
****The most important aspect of bodybuilding is consistency. This is where most people fail.
::) To this day I see some people that CONSISTANTLY train 5 days a week FOR YEARS - only to get worse...or (at best) STAY THE SAME...Wait - maybe you are one of them...???
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***Your section with Hide is on right now on the bonus disc but I won't review it until tomorrow.
Well, that was ONE workout done late at night after working all day (Olympia weekend)...It was far from special and not our usual...still - I hope Mits captured what was most important.
On some of the episodes of the FITSHOW when we were doing giant sets - footage doesn't show how we go from one exercise to another...and doesn't show COMPLETE SET - so many people would NOT get the right idea what we normally do...
I guess I will have to do another DVD to show exactly what I do...
Also, just so people understand the dedication of some guys...Friday, after the evening prejudging of 2006 Mr. Olympia I went to Gold's Gym (Flamingo) with Hide, Joel Stubbs and Kris Dim to train INSANE leg training. We trained from midnight until 2AM...and I wish someone taped THAT ONE...
Anyway...as far as consistency goes - my guys ARE always consistant...and therefore ALWAYS IN SHAPE (check out the photos of Hide and Silvio even today - on my board...)
****your DVD was all from the Fit Show
No, my DVD is way more comprehensive than Fitshow episodes...You can get idea on the show - but you have to see DVD to know the difference...
****I don't want to buy another copy - I never pay for DVDs for bodybuilding stuff.
As I said - some people are just too cheap...Too bad - I guess...
**** what I'm trying to say about a healthy diet and exercise is that there is no special secret technique to make a person grow in the best way possible.
::) ::) ::) YES IT IS...and all of us do have BEST WAY TO GROW...but as it is individual and depended on numerous things - one needs to KNOW much more than his or her own body and simple BASICS...Basic nutritional knowledge is NOT designed to create BODYBUILDERS...advanced nutrition and advanceknowledge COULD lead to ADVANCE BODY...But, you go ahead and stick with the basics and later wonder why you look basically the same year after year ;)
****Some people are convinced you are a magical guru who can somehow do what no one else can, and that is simply untrue.
Yes, my past, present and possibly future clients. I wonder why? Have any idea?
****Only naive people will think so and that is not to say you are bad at what you do, I'm just saying once again, that the basics are the basics.
;) Only naive people will think that there is no more than BASIC (nutrition, training....or whatever else...)
****The most important aspect of bodybuilding is consistency. This is where most people fail.
::) To this day I see some people that CONSISTANTLY train 5 days a week FOR YEARS - only to get worse...or (at best) STAY THE SAME...Wait - maybe you are one of them...???
so whats so "advance" about your nutrition?
Its not rocket science really. Eat 7 high protein meals/day + take your multivitamins /minerals..
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I have a magic bullet ::)...Matt C - grow up...and just continue to eat right and train regularly...as you preach.
Some people like to study...and still finish only elementary school...some like higher education and continue their studies...and some just NEVER WANT TO STOP LEARNING...which should be the case with all of us.
I am still only a "student"...and I will continue my "studies" as long as I live.
There is SO MUCH MORE to training and EATING RIGHT than what average person knows...and some are interested and want to explore - to better themselves.
Garraeth and Owen are eager to learn and I am more than happy to teach them what I know.
What many of you don't realize or recognize:
- I started my own forum years ago - giving FREE ADVICE to thousands of people
- I volunteered to do FITSHOW so thousands of fans around the world would have a chance to learn from me FOR FREE (doing that I had to find the TIME...and in business world time is MONEY...from my busy schedule to film numerous shows. For filming all the episodes I received ZERO dollars and ZERO cents...and I charged Fitshow and bodybuilding.com - the same amount for filming their episodes in my gym...)
- Since than I allow FITSHOW guys to make GREAT 3 DVD set (4 hours of first class training +2 hours of first class nutritional information) and make it available to all of you for $40...(6 hours of my first class information for $40...and some would still complain). So, regardless of what I charge most of the guys would like to get everything for free...
Now, people that do come to me - they come FOR A REASON...and they stay FOR A REASON...but that reason many would not ever know - as they are just to cheap
Above mentioned DVD "Secrets of the Pros" I agreed to do - so guys from FITSHOW can make some money (we equally shared our profits).
I wanted to support them and the show - so they could continue what they started - which was AGAIN ultimately FOR YOU = THE FANS...
I realized that by giving my "secrets" on the show - I might dramatically reduce number of people coming to learn from me - as SO MUCH WAS SAID ON THE DVD...and for average trainees - it is MORE THAN SUFFICIENT...
For others that want to find out MORE - I make myself available personally - and still I have more clients that I can sometimes handle...
I have never had a single unsatisfied customer...and speaking of that - for people who were buying my DVD directly from me - I would give double the money back - guarantee...
I told them that if they anyhow believe that DVD is not worth what they paid for - I will send them double the money back...
I also haven't received ONE copy back - yet...
So, there you have it...
I will offer even ONE MORE THING (again - for the fans):
IF THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE INTERESTED HERE FROM GETBIG.COM (and you can invite "outsiders" as well) I WILL DO FREE SEMINAR (TRAINING AND NUTRITION) IN MY GYM...again to help serious guys interested to learn but not having the funds to hear few things from me...
I could even offer that seminar MONTHLY...again - to give back to my bodybuilding comunity...
Somehow I still don't think I would please everyone...
Oh well.
Garraeth, Owen - see you Thursday...8PM sharp!
I have your DVD. It's great, especially the nutritional segment. What I still don't understand is how any of your guys are going to grow by turning their anaerobic workouts into aerobic workouts (i.e. giant sets with a million reps and no rest). It may put them in better cardiovascular condition but how does that translate into building muscle. Also, if you favor workouts that seem to be more aerobic in nature why not throw them on the stairmill so they can build legs like Tom Platz? Why not slip in a Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies VHS tape and change them all into monstrous creatures that would easily dwarf Ronnie, Jay, etc.?
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I have your DVD. It's great, especially the nutritional segment. What I still don't understand is how any of your guys are going to grow by turning their anaerobic workouts into aerobic workouts (i.e. giant sets with a million reps and no rest). It may put them in better cardiovascular condition but how does that translate into building muscle. Also, if you favor workouts that seem to be more aerobic in nature why not throw them on the stairmill so they can build legs like Tom Platz? Why not slip in a Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies VHS tape and change them all into monstrous creatures that would easily dwarf Ronnie, Jay, etc.?
The whole point to training with Giant-Sets is to create intensity.........inteni ty of effort = doing the most amount of work in the shortest possible amount of time!!
Just another way to keep things progressive instead of adding poundage like so many people think you have to do to make gains.
Sometimes it`s not how much you lift,but how you lift it.
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The whole point to training with Giant-Sets is to create intensity.........inteni ty of effort = doing the most amount of work in the shortest possible amount of time!!
Just another way to keep things progressive instead of adding poundage like so many people think you have to do to make gains.
Sometimes it`s not how much you lift,but how you lift it.
i'm sure for a natural or user these principal's will create a net gain on a short term cycle of training.i think you would still break it up during a year and switch traing to more basic heavier fare.remember 3 to 5 wkts per wk all year is a lot of workts .
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hey milos would u get down to spain every month to do those free seminars ;D ;D
take care
before i competed in sta.susana i spoke to milos just one time in mi life,in sta.susana he gave me his help all the week end,told me what should i eat and do before the show,and helped me in all i needed and treated me like a friend.and he did this only because he wanted to do .u cant say mlos dosent love bodybuilding.he allways has a helping hand.
but when its time for bussines is time for bussines,every one in this board has bills to pay and runs some bussines o gets paid every week for his job, why milos should'nt?
take care milos
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hey milos would u get down to spain every month to do those free seminars ;D ;D
take care
before i competed in sta.susana i spoke to milos just one time in mi life,in sta.susana he gave me his help all the week end,told me what should i eat and do before the show,and helped me in all i needed and treated me like a friend.and he did this only because he wanted to do .u cant say mlos dosent love bodybuilding.he allways has a helping hand.
but when its time for bussines is time for bussines,every one in this board has bills to pay and runs some bussines o gets paid every week for his job, why milos should'nt?
take care milos
Hey Chacon!Ven mas amenudo. Echabamos menos de ti!
Final sales el de Santa susana o no?
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Gaerreth when are you going to post the new pics?
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The whole point to training with Giant-Sets is to create intensity.........inteni ty of effort = doing the most amount of work in the shortest possible amount of time!!
Just another way to keep things progressive instead of adding poundage like so many people think you have to do to make gains.
Sometimes it`s not how much you lift,but how you lift it.
Actually "Wes" my boy ( ;) ),
The idea behind giant sets, while you're correct, is to exhaust as many muscle fibers as possible with creating the most time under tension (TUT). For example, using a bench press, you can use a 428 tempo and use 6 reps for a total set time of 84 seconds (one minute 24 seconds) using one exercise and recruiting mainly slow-twitch type I fibers.
Now if you use a giant set, with say Bench BB press, Incline Flyes, Push-ups, Pec-Dec, and Decline DB Press; using a 2-2-2 tempo with 6 reps each that's 36 seconds per set times 5 and that equals 180 seconds. But you're using a completely different set of muscle fibers- some fibers will recover from the previous set while you're walking to the next exercise, but then again be exhausted relatively quickly and then have to go deeper into the fiber of the muscle while you continue the set. And you do not have to use heavy weight in order to do this- which saves your joints, allows you to contract the muscles properly (should you know how), give plenty of blood in the area for an unreal pump....and just overall provide a completely different stimulus.
Results=adaptation. How to adapt? Do something different to force your body to adapt.
(sorry if this had a lecture type tone to it Wes, more for the rest of the crowd, not you!)
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Milos is the master of the camera. But whenever he takes pics, I'll post em.
Allright cool...... keep up the good work if you are slimming down
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Whatever it was, I'm sore. And haven't been sore in years. So this means (I'm guessing) that new fibers were recruited in the workout that haven't been used in years...or haven't been used as much.
In a nutshell, yes. :)
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Good post YB!! ;)
The people who make fun of Milos training would probably shit themselves before finishing,if indeed they were able to even make it halfway through a workout.
Brutal way to train and anyone that thinks otherwise should simply try it out.
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Once and for all: WHY is everyone thinking that giant sets are done with light weight?
As you can see: I am actually OFFERING TO ALL OF YOU TO COME AND WITNESS WITH YOUR OWN EYES (or feel with your own muscles ;D) - by organizing FREE SEMINAR in my gym...which can be also a collective workout.
In the near future I will start organizing KOLOSEUM MUSCLE CAMPS - Internationally (but I am not going to promote my future business here - I am simply offering something to all of you guys).
Again, so many fail to realize: I don't have hard feelings and all your attacks DO NOT BOTHER ME WHATSOEVER...as I understand many are simply - sceptics.
So, without being sarcastic I am offering to everyone to come and let me show them what I am talking about...
Whoever comes I would suggest - come in shape - as I will demonstrate that even guys in top shape, ready, strong...etc WILL REALIZE how advance this system could be.
Speaking about straight sets is like speaking to the first baby steps of the newborn...
They are great, basic...wonderful by all means - but is this ALL there is to walking? Could we learn to walk a bit better, faster, more efficient?
One can walk the same all their life and WILL GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING...No question.
However, those that learn advance methods of "walking" might end up there much faster and better all around (enjoy a ride while being ultimately way more efficient)...
OK - I just came up with this ;D and I hope you got my point...
What I am saying FOR EXAMPLE:
Whoever is fan of that straight set theory - finish that set (whatever that might be) and than instead of taking a break - try to do something else (other exercise of choice for the same muscle), immediately without taking any break (well, let's say maximum 5 seconds break)...
What do you think will happen?
Do you think it will destroy everything you had accomplished with your straight set or will it add to it?
Think about that...(well, I have to go to work now... :-[)
Reason WHY I am offering to organize the GETBIG SEMINAR (Ron, are you listening?) is because as Garreath said: it is one thing seeing on the DVD and completely other trying it in front of me...when I have a chance to make necessary adjustments and corrections...
Also, as Garreath will confirm - we spent 4 (or 5?) hours just talking...and I only told them just a very small fraction of my theories...
If I would start explaining myself here on board I would simply be overwhelmed with questions and I would NOT have a time to answer them all - thus I don't EVEN want to start...
However, I promise that during the seminar (which should be taped BTW) I will not leave a single question unanswered - so if it takes me 10 hours to finish - so be it...
My 2 hour nutritional segment on my DVD was ONE TAKE...Unprepared, nor rehearsed...I was picked up in the gym - went to Travis's home and simply started talking...I did stop ONCE just to ask them HOW LONG SHOULD I GO and for them to signal me about 5 minutes before I should stop...as I could talk ALL DAY...
I touched only what you guys called "the basics" but what few will recognize my 'basic" is somewhat more detailed and thought off than BASIC basics ;D
Anyway...got to go...
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Hey Milos, I don't think the workouts are done with light weights, whatever weight you can.
Myself, you changed my outlook on this aspect of training. Thanks. :)
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Milos, people have asked numerous times for some of this "free" advice you keep mentioning you hand out from the goodness of your heart but I have yet to see you respond directly to their questions.
It is indesputable that drugs play a part in bodybuilding but you NEVER even come close to answering any questions on the subject, but opt to dance around the questions. As a matter of fact I havent ever seen you give us any "advanced" tips on nutrition or training. Instead you talk about buying a dvd or paying for a training session from you.
For once, would you kindly toss us a bone and let us in on one "advanced" nutrition secret, at least one "advanced/secret" training method or at least talk about steroids to some degree that doesnt include us having to dish out money for it?
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milos, when is your first free seminar in your gym?
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Yeah as was said before, a video doesn't cut it...so how could a message board be any better? It's too complicated to explain on a message board. I did, however, try and share some of what I learned:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137365.msg1952706#msg1952706
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137365.msg1953456#msg1953456
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137365.msg1955514#msg1955514
So you can see, it's pretty impossible to convey all the info using written word.
...and I'm surprised you all don't have enough sense to realize that reading a book (or msg board) or watching a video never, ever, compares to real life. Try learning how to golf (it's a SIMPLE game: swing club, hit ball, get ball into hole) from a book or video. Or even learning from a normal golf tutor. Then try learning from Tiger Woods...now you're talking!
I tried a bit of his stuff on back last night. Course my attempt was probably pretty lame, but it did give me a gnarly pump today. And my friends were even mocking me through the giant set cuz I was doing dumbell rows with 30lbs and stressing hard. Ha! I love it.
Well congrats.
You were able to provide a lot more inforamtion in your posts then Milos has ever given us here. That's the problem, he talks about how he hands out tons of free advice but you had to pay through your nose to give us a little bit of information about keeping the exercised muscle flexed at all times, (appreciate what you had to offer anyway).
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Few questions for Milos...
Im very interested in the DVDs. I might get Tom to pick it up for me (you do have them on hand correct?) when hes out there and you and Rich go head to head (i hear its officially scheduled for the fit show... should be fun to see two true warriors hit it hard, even tho Rich hasnt been at it for a number of years hardcore). $40 apiece? How many DVDs are there and what does each DVD contain? Im looking for the advanced training and nutritional segments. Which ones do i get? Is there any actual workout footage on them? Im FIGHTING to break 230 and im one of those "straight set guys". Im hoping this contains the information iv been missing to help me break that plateau
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TooPowerful4u - are you in the Gaspari ads? ??? Did Gaspari just have a kid? ???
The National sales manager for Gaspari Nutrition gave me some free SIZEONE at the Arnold. The stuff definitely works better than any other creatine I've tried.
Nah not in the ads (im too puny haha). Yes he just had a baby girl. One reason he has hardly been training at all for 9 months. Still he looks friggen good for his age and not training or eating correctly. Hes a warrior to the end though, so i know he will bring whever he has when him and Milos do legs in 4 weeks. Should be interesting.
Yea you must have met with Tom. Very good guy. SizeOn kicks major azz. Glad you like it, Lemon is the best flavor.
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Milos, do you think you will be present at the Montreal Pro Show and if so, do you think you will have a little bit of free time ?
thanks
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Milos, do you think you will be present at the Montreal Pro Show and if so, do you think you will have a little bit of free time ?
thanks
Milos doesnt have "free" time, if you know what I mean.
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Once and for all: WHY is everyone thinking that giant sets are done with light weight?
As you can see: I am actually OFFERING TO ALL OF YOU TO COME AND WITNESS WITH YOUR OWN EYES (or feel with your own muscles ;D) - by organizing FREE SEMINAR in my gym...which can be also a collective workout.
In the near future I will start organizing KOLOSEUM MUSCLE CAMPS - Internationally (but I am not going to promote my future business here - I am simply offering something to all of you guys).
Again, so many fail to realize: I don't have hard feelings and all your attacks DO NOT BOTHER ME WHATSOEVER...as I understand many are simply - sceptics.
So, without being sarcastic I am offering to everyone to come and let me show them what I am talking about...
Whoever comes I would suggest - come in shape - as I will demonstrate that even guys in top shape, ready, strong...etc WILL REALIZE how advance this system could be.
Speaking about straight sets is like speaking to the first baby steps of the newborn...
They are great, basic...wonderful by all means - but is this ALL there is to walking? Could we learn to walk a bit better, faster, more efficient?
One can walk the same all their life and WILL GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING...No question.
However, those that learn advance methods of "walking" might end up there much faster and better all around (enjoy a ride while being ultimately way more efficient)...
OK - I just came up with this ;D and I hope you got my point...
What I am saying FOR EXAMPLE:
Whoever is fan of that straight set theory - finish that set (whatever that might be) and than instead of taking a break - try to do something else (other exercise of choice for the same muscle), immediately without taking any break (well, let's say maximum 5 seconds break)...
What do you think will happen?
Do you think it will destroy everything you had accomplished with your straight set or will it add to it?
Think about that...(well, I have to go to work now... :-[)
Reason WHY I am offering to organize the GETBIG SEMINAR (Ron, are you listening?) is because as Garreath said: it is one thing seeing on the DVD and completely other trying it in front of me...when I have a chance to make necessary adjustments and corrections...
Also, as Garreath will confirm - we spent 4 (or 5?) hours just talking...and I only told them just a very small fraction of my theories...
If I would start explaining myself here on board I would simply be overwhelmed with questions and I would NOT have a time to answer them all - thus I don't EVEN want to start...
However, I promise that during the seminar (which should be taped BTW) I will not leave a single question unanswered - so if it takes me 10 hours to finish - so be it...
My 2 hour nutritional segment on my DVD was ONE TAKE...Unprepared, nor rehearsed...I was picked up in the gym - went to Travis's home and simply started talking...I did stop ONCE just to ask them HOW LONG SHOULD I GO and for them to signal me about 5 minutes before I should stop...as I could talk ALL DAY...
I touched only what you guys called "the basics" but what few will recognize my 'basic" is somewhat more detailed and thought off than BASIC basics ;D
Anyway...got to go...
So, did you invent supersets ???
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Milos doesnt have "free" time, if you know what I mean.
I don't care I would be glad to pay, I think it worth it
tho, I can only afford 1 session. I am not rich like Garraeth ! >:(
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milos, when is your first free seminar in your gym?
When we (getbig.com) have ENOUGH interested people to attend my seminar...
We can set the date and start a list...If we have let's say 50 people interested - I would do it with the 2 weeks notice...
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Milos doesnt have "free" time, if you know what I mean.
Milos does..but NEVER for people who expect free things ;)
You've heard about my free seminar?
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When we (getbig.com) have ENOUGH interested people to attend my seminar...
We can set the date and start a list...If we have let's say 50 people interested - I would do it with the 2 weeks notice...
alright, i'd recommend you start a thread specifiically about that so people can rsvp
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So, did you invent supersets ???
I invented a wheel and a fire too...Didn't you know that?
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alright, i'd recommend you start a thread specifiically about that so people can rsvp
I'd recommend WHOEVER is interested starts the thread...Don't you think it makes a bit more sense?
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Dont be suprised if garreath looks like silvio samuel in five weeks!
Milos is that good.
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Milos does..but NEVER for people who expect free things ;)
You've heard about my free seminar?
Milos, you would be a great politician. ;)
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MattC,
STFU and begin uploading my DVDs >:(
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lol.
It is sort of a conflict of interest or else maybe I would...also I am bloody damn conservative when it comes to the economy. :-X But in your case, I see no problem with you downloading DVDs if you wouldn't buy them anyway. Didn't Tech9 upload some DVDs?
WTF is going on with tech9?
He made all those preview videos, then mitzuru threatened to sue him due to the fact that his previews were far better than the ones mitzuru made (that they show at the olympia)....and now he is uploading DVD portions ???
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I have no clue. It looks like he uploaded some complete DVDs to me - like Branch's new one for example. The preview clips and promotion he did was way better than anything Mits made. Tech9 does great work if he only kept things conservative. Sometimes he goes over the top.
I have all of his videos saved, they kick ass.
the best of dorian yates
best of kevin levrone
best of flex wheeler
best of jay cutler
ronnie coleman and johnnie jackson bfto 04
RC 1st video preview
greatest show on earth (99 BGP)
Coleman - china white
bfto 05 preview
all awesome previews
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;D ;D ;D
Well, it looks like somebody in charge of this board doesn't want me to offer free seminar to all of you?
Somehow threads are just dissapearing ::)?
Wonder who can do such a thing ::)?
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A pro should take a chance and let Tech 9 produce their video. He's good at capturing emotion as gay as that may sound. The only problem he'd have is gaining music rights
Anyone have the link to that Nasser Clip he did with that wild african beat?
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;D ;D ;D
Well, it looks like somebody in charge of this board doesn't want me to offer free seminar to all of you?
Somehow threads are just dissapearing ::)?
Wonder who can do such a thing ::)?
I don't know for shawn, errr......I mean for sure, Milos, but I have a good idea who might be responsible for this...... ::)
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I don't know for shawn, errr......I mean for sure, Milos, but I have a good idea who might be responsible for this...... ::)
why would shawn do this? why would anyone do this???
man , the guy is doing this for free!!!! I would enjoy a lot if i could participate....
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Ron - STOP DELETING MY THREADS!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Next time I see you ....I will let bags fly on you...
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Ron - STOP DELETING MY THREADS!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Next time I see you ....I will let bags fly on you...
hahahaha, what did he delete, big guy?
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:'( :'( :'(He... :'( :'( :'( he... :'( :'( :'( he deleted my... :'( :'( thhhhhreeeeaadddd :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
How cruuuuuuuuuuuuuel :'( :'( :'( Just because he has a small p :'( :'( :'( :'(ictures he shouldn't do :'( :'( :'( that.... :'( :'(
Don't you think Squady-budy... ;D
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hahahaha, what did he delete, big guy?
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:'( :'( :'(He... :'( :'( :'( he... :'( :'( :'( he deleted my... :'( :'( thhhhhreeeeaadddd :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
How cruuuuuuuuuuuuuel :'( :'( :'( Just because he has a small p :'( :'( :'( :'(ictures he shouldn't do :'( :'( :'( that.... :'( :'(
Don't you think Squady-budy... ;D
deleting threads is for communists.
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deleting threads is for communists.
Whats problem with communist?
Huh.......Sarcasm.....
You are so boring,routinely,nothing special, average rural american.......
Your opinions are so boring.
Your routines are..
1 White is the best race.
2 America is No 1(So everybody should speak correct english..)
3 Communist is bad
4 Gay should go to hell.
5 Sunday you should go to church.
These items are so typical.
Hey,you dont have any special point?
Just you are boring.
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Whats problem with communist?
Huh.......Sarcasm.....
You are so boring,routinely,nothing special, average rural american.......
Your opinions are so boring.
Your routines are..
1 White is the best race.
2 America is No 1(So everybody should speak correct english..)
3 Communist is bad
4 Gay should go to hell.
5 Sunday you should go to church.
These items are so typical.
Hey,you dont have any special point?
Just you are boring.
i don't go to church "big guy".
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Milos, do you know mr. Alexandre Pagnani, form IFBB Brazil?
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i don't go to church "big guy".
Oh then little bit better ;D
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Whats problem with communist?
Huh.......Sarcasm.....
You are so boring,routinely,nothing special, average rural american.......
Your opinions are so boring.
Your routines are..
1 White is the best race.
2 America is No 1(So everybody should speak correct english..)
3 Communist is bad
4 Gay should go to hell.
5 Sunday you should go to church.
These items are so typical.
Hey,you dont have any special point?
Just you are boring.
Holy smoke. Don't get your mawashi in a knot, K-man. In any case, don't the Japanese believe in corrupt central government control rather than communism? ;)
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Holy smoke. Don't get your mawashi in a knot, K-man. In any case, don't the Japanese believe in corrupt central government control rather than communism? ;)
Well First of all. Many american dont know what is the comunism.
The comunism is not implying for being like Russia or China.
What they are dictators and imperialist.
The relation between comunism and capitalism is like warm and batterfly.
Normaly when Capitalism progress to the end,it covert into Communism.
Here i dont explain how.Because its gonna be really long.
So real Communism is borned from a mom named Capitalism.
So it is very stupid to decide one.
They are just a state of society living form.
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Well First of all. Many american dont know what is the comunism.
The comunism is not implying for being like Russia or China.
What they are dictators and imperialist.
The relation between comunism and capitalism is like warm and batterfly.
Normaly when Capitalism progress to the end,it covert into Communism.
Here i dont explain how.Because its gonna be really long.
So real Communism is borned from a mom named Capitalism.
So it is very stupid to decide one.
They are just a state of society living form.
communism and Marxism are probably one of the to ever grace the earth
why do you think they've all failed or are failing? you can't have everyone equal, you need social classes otherwise people will have zero motivation and will just be worthless pieces of shits (like 99.99% of getbig ;D)
but lets not let politics crap all over milos's thread
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Ron - STOP DELETING MY THREADS!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Next time I see you ....I will let bags fly on you...
I found evidence of this on your board Milos ;)
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OK...my guys just got in...
They have no idea what's coming... ;D
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Well First of all. Many american dont know what is the comunism.
The comunism is not implying for being like Russia or China.
What they are dictators and imperialist.
The relation between comunism and capitalism is like warm and batterfly.
Normaly when Capitalism progress to the end,it covert into Communism.
Here i dont explain how.Because its gonna be really long.
So real Communism is borned from a mom named Capitalism.
So it is very stupid to decide one.
They are just a state of society living form.
I like where this is going! What do you think of Cuban communism?
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communism and Marxism are probably one of the to ever grace the earth
why do you think they've all failed or are failing? you can't have everyone equal, you need social classes otherwise people will have zero motivation and will just be worthless pieces of shits (like 99.99% of getbig ;D)
but lets not let politics crap all over milos's thread
Agreed. Thats the reason why still capitalism is better for humanity.
But,when people are in danger and tired of competition(Economicali,militaly),finaly they shake hand and try to live and survive together. Thats called communism.In this stage there is no ego in our mind and whole society become one.
Until then we compete and compete.But, its a phenomenon of the nature.We are just too much...many people...
When there were prehistoric communism,we were very few. So people could devide their food equal.And above all there was no ego.
I heard there are several tribes in deep Amazon who do the life of same style of this. And the doctor who visit them say "they dont have those words such as "my" or "me". Just they dont need to use them.".
Anyway,sorry. This is the Milos lifting thread. I stop it. ;D
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I like where this is going! What do you think of Cuban communism?
Dictation with false communism mind.
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Anyway,sorry. This is the Milos lifting thread. I stop it. ;D
So how about that Milos eh? ;D