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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: ieffinhatecardio on March 29, 2007, 06:42:42 AM
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Frontline World did a great piece the other night on Arab news outlets. One of the questions Frontline posed was why isn't Al Jazeera English broadcast in the US, currently cable and satellite providers have refused to carry it. The only way to view it is on the internet. Surprisingly the two military members assigned to media duties in Dubai that Frontline followed for a day felt it should be broadcast.
Great show and interesting topic.
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/ (http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/)
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We had the same controversy here. The population wanted AlJazeera, but the gov't said no.
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I wouldn't risk any of my money on it.
But it will be amusing to see what tortured logic some rightie comes up with to argue that is should be prohibited. [We know how they love torture. ::)]
I mean, let's face it... they don't really believe in freedom of speech. You think you could ever get the votes to make that a constitutional amendment today?
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I wouldn't risk any of my money on it.
But it will be amusing to see what tortured logic some rightie comes up with to argue that is should be prohibited. [We know how they love torture. ::)]
I mean, let's face it... they don't really believe in freedom of speech. You think you could ever get the votes to make that a constitutional amendment today?
Ironic really. Research the country where Al Jazeera is published.
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I wouldn't risk any of my money on it.
But it will be amusing to see what tortured logic some rightie comes up with to argue that is should be prohibited. [We know how they love torture. ::)]
I mean, let's face it... they don't really believe in freedom of speech. You think you could ever get the votes to make that a constitutional amendment today?
Wait, are you saying you believe in freedom of speech more than a rightie?
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Ironic really. Research the country where Al Jazeera is published.
Alex Jones is published from America.
What was the point you were trying to make? ;)
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Wait, are you saying you believe in freedom of speech more than a rightie?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137717.msg1956650#msg1956650
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137717.msg1956650#msg1956650
You are going to use child porn to fight your freedom of speach debate? I'm sure Washington and the bunch intended for people to be able to round up 12 year old girls, post their pics on the net and let guys jack off to them when they came up with the first ammendment. Of course if I ran around here calling people blacks you would call me a racist and support me being kicked out of the military. But that makes sense because that instance wouldn't support your beliefs.
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Frontline World did a great piece the other night on Arab news outlets. One of the questions Frontline posed was why isn't Al Jazeera English broadcast in the US, currently cable and satellite providers have refused to carry it. The only way to view it is on the internet. Surprisingly the two military members assigned to media duties in Dubai that Frontline followed for a day felt it should be broadcast.
Great show and interesting topic.
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/ (http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/)
we should absolutely be able to take any and all infomation and be able to individually be capable of disseminating truth from BS. The more information we are able to get from different sources, the more able we are to do this. The fewer sources we have the more easy it is to pass off BS to the population and have it stick. I say let any and all sources freely broadcast... Keep on rocking in the free world ;)
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we should absolutely be able to take any and all infomation and be able to individually be capable of disseminating truth from BS. The more information we are able to get from different sources, the more able we are to do this. The fewer sources we have the more easy it is to pass off BS to the population and have it stick. I say let any and all sources freely broadcast... Keep on rocking in the free world ;)
YES!
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we should absolutely be able to take any and all infomation and be able to individually be capable of disseminating truth from BS. The more information we are able to get from different sources, the more able we are to do this. The fewer sources we have the more easy it is to pass off BS to the population and have it stick. I say let any and all sources freely broadcast... Keep on rocking in the free world ;)
So how do you feel about the Fairness Doctrine?
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Yes to the broadcasts.
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You are going to use child porn to fight your freedom of speach debate?
No, I'm going to call bullshit on puritanical free-speech haters who use the scare term "child porn" to try to bludgeon legislators into giving them their way.
Hope this helps. :)
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I know some people who get Al Jazeera on Satalite along with 5 other arabic stations.
So, if people want it they can get it
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Those female al jazeera broadcasters are hot. ;D
Of course Al Jazeera should be broadcast in the US. If there's a market for it, then by all means it should be broadcast on cable and dish. I think Al Jazeera could provide another pov in scheme of things in the middleeast, afterall they do a better job of keeping track of Bin Laden than the CIA.
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Those female al jazeera broadcasters are hot. ;D
This is the best-looking one I could find.
(http://www.briangreene.com/july15/mini-AL%20JAZEERA%20-%20July%2015%2016%2001%2029.bmp.jpg)
She's no Melissa Theuriau. :(
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I saw some footage on CNN on al jazeera and this one broadcaster looked great, but nothing like that French gal.
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we should absolutely be able to take any and all infomation and be able to individually be capable of disseminating truth from BS. The more information we are able to get from different sources, the more able we are to do this. The fewer sources we have the more easy it is to pass off BS to the population and have it stick. I say let any and all sources freely broadcast... Keep on rocking in the free world ;)
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. Great post and I agree completely.
By the way Al Jazeera English is a different station than Al Jazeera. Same parent company but it's skewed to a different audience and is in fact broadcast from Washington D.C. They even hired an ex-CBS anchorman as the face of the show. Of course his cohost is a hotass Arab woman.
I know some people who get Al Jazeera on Satalite along with 5 other arabic stations.
So, if people want it they can get it
Frontline said that all US cable and satellite providers had refused to carry the channel. What satellite service are the people you know using? Frontline talked to the group that is claiming they pressured the cable/satellite providers into refusing to carry it.
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Let em run..it will let people see how evil these pricks are...
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Let em run..it will let people see how evil these pricks are...
What you need is a big, sloppy, juicy, toe-curling, wet kiss right on the lips by an Arab man.
I'm thoroughly convinced that would just make your day, ...or your night. Whaddya think? :)
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What you need is a big, sloppy, juicy, toe-curling, wet kiss right on the lips by an Arab man.
I'm thoroughly convinced that would just make your day, ...or your night. Whaddya think? :)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JAGUOWNED!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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You are going to use child porn to fight your freedom of speach debate? I'm sure Washington and the bunch intended for people to be able to round up 12 year old girls, post their pics on the net and let guys jack off to them when they came up with the first ammendment. Of course if I ran around here calling people blacks you would call me a racist and support me being kicked out of the military. But that makes sense because that instance wouldn't support your beliefs.
Hell, in Washingtons day, they were probably getting married at 14 or 15 to be honest... They probably would have considered "Child porn" to be closer to the age of 9 or 10.
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author=ieffinhatecardio link=topic=137825.msg1958420#msg1958420 date=1175175762]
Frontline World did a great piece the other night on Arab news outlets. One of the questions Frontline posed was why isn't Al Jazeera English broadcast in the US, currently cable and satellite providers have refused to carry it. The only way to view it is on the internet. Surprisingly the two military members assigned to media duties in Dubai that Frontline followed for a day felt it should be broadcast.
Great show and interesting topic.
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/ (http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/newswar/)
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What?
Al-Jazeera is NOT broadcasted in the US?
WTF?
You gotta be fcuking kidding me.
Self-censoring of the worst kind.
Of course Al-Jazeera should be broadcasted. It's actually a pretty decent news station, although I personally prefer BBC News, Sky News, CBS and CNN.
They offer balance, and they're definitely a news station.
Not some kind of terrorist network.
-Hedge
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Ironic really. Research the country where Al Jazeera is published.
Qatar is one of the more liberal countries on the Arab peninsula, and not known to be a haven of terrorists or shit like that.
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Qatar is one of the more liberal countries on the Arab peninsula, and not known to be a haven of terrorists or shit like that.
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Right? My point was about freedom of speech, I didn't mention terrorists ANYWHERE. I'd bet 240's life that there are probably more terrorists in the UK - BUT the media in the UK has freedom of speech beyond almost any nation.
Here read this:
Qatar explicitly uses Wahhabi law as the basis of its government, and the vast majority of its citizens follow this specific Islamic doctrine. Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab founded Wahhabism, a puritanical version of Islam which takes a literal interpretation of the Qur'an and the Sunnah. In the eighteenth century, Abd Al-Wahhab formed a pact with the al-Saud family, the founders of Saudi Arabia.
Do you understand what LITERAL means?
Law:
When contrasted with other Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, for instance, Qatar has comparatively liberal laws, but is still not as liberal as some of its neighbors like UAE or Bahrain. Women can drive in Qatar, whereas they may not legally drive in Saudi Arabia.
You need to research wahhbism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi
Sounds real liberal eh Hedge ::)
I wish my country used Wahhabi law it's so liberal, humane and such an embracer of peace :-\
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Right? My point was about freedom of speech, I didn't mention terrorists ANYWHERE. I'd bet 240's life that there are probably more terrorists in the UK - BUT the media in the UK has freedom of speech beyond almost any nation.
Here read this:
Qatar explicitly uses Wahhabi law as the basis of its government, and the vast majority of its citizens follow this specific Islamic doctrine. Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab founded Wahhabism, a puritanical version of Islam which takes a literal interpretation of the Qur'an and the Sunnah. In the eighteenth century, Abd Al-Wahhab formed a pact with the al-Saud family, the founders of Saudi Arabia.
Do you understand what LITERAL means?
Law:
When contrasted with other Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, for instance, Qatar has comparatively liberal laws, but is still not as liberal as some of its neighbors like UAE or Bahrain. Women can drive in Qatar, whereas they may not legally drive in Saudi Arabia.
You need to research wahhbism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi
Sounds real liberal eh Hedge ::)
I wish my country used Wahhabi law it's so liberal, humane and such an embracer of peace :-\
You know my stance on the Islamic countries. At least I think you do.
In case it has to be repeated, here's the short version:
I think Islam is flawed at its core, it is a discriminating religion, it is anti-democratic, and there are other flaws.
I am a Feminist, and a firm believer in Democracy. Therefore I oppose any form, ANY form, of Islam.
So I am naturally critical of any kind of government like the one in Qatar, and the one in Saudi Arabia.
Of course.
But where did I state that I thought Qatar was a decent country?
Please point that out.
As far as Al-Jazeera: I believe in a free press. That is reason enough to broadcast Al-Jazeera.
Remember Voltaire, Nord.
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You know my stance on the Islamic countries. At least I think you do.
In case it has to be repeated, here's the short version:
I think Islam is flawed at its core, it is a discriminating religion, it is anti-democratic, and there are other flaws.
I am a Feminist, and a firm believer in Democracy. Therefore I oppose any form, ANY form, of Islam.
So I am naturally critical of any kind of government like the one in Qatar, and the one in Saudi Arabia.
Of course.
But where did I state that I thought Qatar was a decent country?
Please point that out.
As far as Al-Jazeera: I believe in a free press. That is reason enough to broadcast Al-Jazeera.
Remember Voltaire, Nord.
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Where did I say you thought Qatar WAS decent country?
I believe in free press too, and do believe Al-Jazeera should be able to publish their network in the west as long as it adheres to guidelines of course.
My original comment in the thread (go read it) was making a contrast at a fly comment by someone criticising the US's freedom of speech.
And yes I do know your view on islam: it is a perfect ideology for human life and government :P
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Where did I say you thought Qatar WAS decent country?
I believe in free press too, and do believe Al-Jazeera should be able to publish their network in the west as long as it adheres to guidelines of course.
My original comment in the thread (go read it) was making a contrast at a fly comment by someone criticising the US's freedom of speech.
And yes I do know your view on islam: it is a perfect ideology for human life and government :P
LMFAO.
Right on, Imam Nord.
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I'd bet 240's life that...
I got even odds that you'd be triple-tapped center mass before you got a word out.
Racist.
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I got even odds that you'd be triple-tapped center mass before you got a word out.
Racist.
Lighten up up hippy
(http://www.mynewsroom.co.uk/photographs/cannabis-joint.jpg)
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Lighten up up hippy
(http://www.mynewsroom.co.uk/photographs/cannabis-joint.jpg)
Please. I was voting warmonger while you were still walking old ladies across the street.
Only difference is, I possess the testicular fortitude to admit it.
I admit I voted in an imperialist oil plunderer. You're still living in that "wmd/liberator" fantasyland.
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Please. I was voting warmonger while you were still walking old ladies across the street.
Only difference is, I possess the testicular fortitude to admit it.
I admit I voted in an imperialist oil plunderer. You're still living in that "wmd/liberator" fantasyland.
Ok cowgirl, are you going to try and show evidence showing Blair has lied more than M. A in that thread?
You've yet to refute my 911 scenario too buddy.
Have a nice day.
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Ok cowgirl, are you going to try and show evidence showing Blair has lied more than M. A in that thread?
You've yet to refute my 911 scenario too buddy.
Have a nice day.
I never took a position, funboy.
I asked you what your opinion was. You showed us several lies he made. Thanks for your time. No one else touched the argument, oddly.
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I never took a position, funboy.
I asked you what your opinion was. You showed us several lies he made. Thanks for your time. No one else touched the argument, oddly.
lol, here's a theoretical scenario:
You life is on the line, you're asked the question: "Who has lied more in the last 5 years? Blair or Ahmadinejad"
They have a perfect lie detector if you lie you die, what's your answer? :-*
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lol, here's a theoretical scenario:
You life is on the line, you're asked the question: "Who has lied more in the last 5 years? Blair or Ahmadinejad"
They have a perfect lie detector if you lie you die, what's your answer? :-*
First, in this world of propaganda and deceit, it's hard to know what is true and what isn't.
However, given your scenario, I would do my research then answer accordingly based upon the information I found.
I know that google has WAY more info on the Blair (sometimes read: "Bliar") lies. Maybe that just means that more people make websites about his lies for some reason. Or maybe he lies more. I don't know.
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First, in this world of propaganda and deceit, it's hard to know what is true and what isn't.
However, given your scenario, I would do my research then answer accordingly based upon the information I found.
I know that google has WAY more info on the Blair (sometimes read: "Bliar") lies. Maybe that just means that more people make websites about his lies for some reason. Or maybe he lies more. I don't know.
You don't think his front seat in the world of politics for the last decade has anything to do with that?
Guess not, that would be way too logical.
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You don't think his front seat in the world of politics for the last decade has anything to do with that?
Guess not, that would be way too logical.
Well, not to pick at your answer, but part of yours was speculative. Do we know for sure he was part of that hostage thing?
And why would his seat in the world of politics have to do with him lying? I am referring to statements which are refuted by evidence. Nobody made him lie. And the timeline has nothing to do with it. IMO, a leader shuld have ZERO lies on his record. When he does lie, he should be voted out. People have pitifully low standards and are "okay" with being lied to. They're little bitches for this, I"m afraid.
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lol, here's a theoretical scenario:
You life is on the line, you're asked the question: "Who has lied more in the last 5 years? Blair or Ahmadinejad"
They have a perfect lie detector if you lie you die, what's your answer? :-*
Ahmadinejad of course.
I wouldn't have to have anything on the line for that one either.
BTW, according to my political analysists and mil intel sources, he's on the way out. He's currently the 3rd man in ranking in Iran.
Behind the Ayatollah and the former President, who apparently has regained control in some recent election, but more importantly, has the support of more Mullas, who aren't too pleased with Ahmadinejad's failure with the economic policies and his foreign "chicken race" tactics.
Consider where you got this from though... 8)
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Ahmadinejad is the boogeyman that US/UK uses to get people to go along with a war in Iran.
He's like bin laden.
A powerless scary face, reeking of poetic rhetoric and little logistical ability to implement his vision of destruction.
We all know Osama didn't bring down WTC7. And we all know Ahmadinejad doesn't have the power to attack Israel or the US. But it sure does give people the moral authority they need to go along with elective wars.
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Hell, in Washingtons day, they were probably getting married at 14 or 15 to be honest... They probably would have considered "Child porn" to be closer to the age of 9 or 10.
my bad, true but you see my point right?
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my bad, true but you see my point right?
Oh of course... Using Child porn to protect freedom of speech (or in some cases religion) is just a sad and disgusting thing.
I'm with you on that.