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Bodybuilder faces charges of assault
Diabetic 'Mr. Natural Universe' says he suffered from insulin shock
REDWOOD CITY — The reigning "Mr. Natural Universe" faces assault and resisting-arrest charges following a scuffle with police who thought the diabetic bodybuilder was intoxicated or high on drugs.
In fact, claims Doug Burns, 43, he was suffering from insulin shock — and now the Menlo Park bodybuilder is considering suing the Redwood City Police Department.
The incident, Burns recalled Tuesday, happened shortly after he entered a downtown movie theater in Redwood City on Sunday evening.
He was feeling dizzy and suffering from poor vision — symptoms of low blood sugar — so he made his way quickly to the theater's concession area.
A theater security guard who noticed that Burns was walking in circles tried to talk with him, but the bodybuilder had trouble communicating the situation to the guard, Burns said.
Burns, whose recollection of the events is hazy, recalled that the security guard escorted him down the theater's escalator. The next thing he remembers is falling on the pavement outside the theater.
According to police, two officers tried to speak with Burns. When the bodybuilder attempted to make his way back into the theater, one officer tried to block his path, said Capt. Chris Cessina.
"Mr. Burns shoved one of the officers backward and then took a fighting stance to fight the officer," said Cessina.
The officer tried to stun Burns with pepper spray and attempted to wrestle him to the ground with the help of another officer, said Cessina. However, Burns continued to fight, and three more officers were called in as back-up to handcuff the 207-pound bodybuilder.
"The officers were faced with someone who assaulted them, and they didn't have any time to check to see if his situation was a result of a medical condition," said Cessina.
When paramedics arrived, they noticed Burns' Medic Alert bracelet and administered an on-scene medical test which later confirmed that he was suffering from low blood sugar, Cessina said.
Burns was cited on assault and resisting-arrest charges and then taken to the hospital.
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Well...How were the cops suposed to know he was diabetic? I think they probably acted the only way they could...but I also think he should not face charges if he could prove he was in an insulin reaction.
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Bodybuilder faces charges of assault
Diabetic 'Mr. Natural Universe' says he suffered from insulin shock
REDWOOD CITY — The reigning "Mr. Natural Universe" faces assault and resisting-arrest charges following a scuffle with police who thought the diabetic bodybuilder was intoxicated or high on drugs.
In fact, claims Doug Burns, 43, he was suffering from insulin shock — and now the Menlo Park bodybuilder is considering suing the Redwood City Police Department.
The incident, Burns recalled Tuesday, happened shortly after he entered a downtown movie theater in Redwood City on Sunday evening.
He was feeling dizzy and suffering from poor vision — symptoms of low blood sugar — so he made his way quickly to the theater's concession area.
A theater security guard who noticed that Burns was walking in circles tried to talk with him, but the bodybuilder had trouble communicating the situation to the guard, Burns said.
Burns, whose recollection of the events is hazy, recalled that the security guard escorted him down the theater's escalator. The next thing he remembers is falling on the pavement outside the theater.
According to police, two officers tried to speak with Burns. When the bodybuilder attempted to make his way back into the theater, one officer tried to block his path, said Capt. Chris Cessina.
"Mr. Burns shoved one of the officers backward and then took a fighting stance to fight the officer," said Cessina.
The officer tried to stun Burns with pepper spray and attempted to wrestle him to the ground with the help of another officer, said Cessina. However, Burns continued to fight, and three more officers were called in as back-up to handcuff the 207-pound bodybuilder.
"The officers were faced with someone who assaulted them, and they didn't have any time to check to see if his situation was a result of a medical condition," said Cessina.
When paramedics arrived, they noticed Burns' Medic Alert bracelet and administered an on-scene medical test which later confirmed that he was suffering from low blood sugar, Cessina said.
Burns was cited on assault and resisting-arrest charges and then taken to the hospital.
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Cops are idiots. Bottom line. They abuse their power and they think they're above the law.
PB
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bodybuilding gossip of last week called. it wants its thread back.
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bodybuilding gossip of last week called. it wants its thread back.
LOL
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cops are all crooked fucking assholes,who were all picked on in highschool and think they are so bad because they have a badge,bullet proof vest,gun and baton and the right to do what ever they want,they should relax and act civily and not just try to beat people and add up charges on someone cause there board.the guy had a bracelet on that signifies he has a problem,they should open there eyes.
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Well...How were the cops suposed to know he was diabetic? I think they probably acted the only way they could...but I also think he should not face charges if he could prove he was in an insulin reaction.
maybe the same way the paramedics found out ;D
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I know doug pretty well, we used to train at the Powerhouse in RWC a couple of years ago (right accross from the theater).
Easy on the guy, he is indeed "diabetic".... ;D
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I know doug pretty well, we used to train at the Powerhouse in RWC a couple of years ago (right accross from the theater).
Easy on the guy, he is indeed "diabetic".... ;D
jesus christ bro i hate to see you go into insulin shock ;D
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jesus christ bro i hate to see you go into insulin shock ;D
if I go into shock, Picture SWAT onsite, a dozen of County Sheriffs, 2 fire trucks and if I'm having a bad day, the National Guards ;D
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if I go into shock, Picture SWAT onsite, a dozen of County Sheriffs, 2 fire trucks and if I'm having a bad day, the National Guards ;D
no doubt!
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cops are all crooked fucking assholes,who were all picked on in highschool and think they are so bad because they have a badge,bullet proof vest,gun and baton and the right to do what ever they want,they should relax and act civily and not just try to beat people and add up charges on someone cause there board.the guy had a bracelet on that signifies he has a problem,they should open there eyes.
Bullseye.
PB
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Cops are idiots. Bottom line. They abuse their power and they think they're above the law.
PB
And who are the people you call when you're in trouble? :-\ ???
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And who are the people you call when you're in trouble? :-\ ???
Those of us in concealed carry states only call the police to help clean up the remnants of those we've pinkmisted.
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There is a time for vigilante-style justice. But at some point, he will need to call the authorities for some type of assistance.
Remember Flava Flav doing the song "911 is a joke?" Then a period of time passes, and he needs medical attention or else he's about to kick. Who did he call then? Right, 911. Then he went on TV and recanted his statement.
There are certainly horrible law enforcers out there...for instance the Chicago cop that beat the crap out of the 125lb female bartender then had his buddies attempt to buy her off. But there are some good cops too. And, when you need their help, you should remember all the mindless tripe that you spew and that an internet tough guy you only are (not directed at 240 FWIW).
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Those of us in concealed carry states only call the police to help clean up the remnants of those we've pinkmisted.
what a fucking rediculous remark
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what a fucking rediculous remark
yee haw.
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And who are the people you call when you're in trouble? :-\ ???
I never get into trouble so I wouldn't know. I'm not a shit disturber. But I have seen my share of cop stupidity. They can't solve a crime but yet it takes 10 cruisers to pull over some dumb 16 year old kid for doing 10 kilometers over the speed limit :-\ Joke.
PB
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There is a time for vigilante-style justice. But at some point, he will need to call the authorities for some type of assistance.
Remember Flava Flav doing the song "911 is a joke?" Then a period of time passes, and he needs medical attention or else he's about to kick. Who did he call then? Right, 911. Then he went on TV and recanted his statement.
There are certainly horrible law enforcers out there...for instance the Chicago cop that beat the crap out of the 125lb female bartender then had his buddies attempt to buy her off. But there are some good cops too. And, when you need their help, you should remember all the mindless tripe that you spew and that an internet tough guy you only are (not directed at 240 FWIW).
nah, I actually have police in my family and one of those FOP things. I respect them and I'd sure help one if they ever needed it. I was treated very rudely by one when I was 18, so I know there are bad seeds on the job. But their field is a tough one and I respect what they do.
At the same time, nationwide police response time is 11 minutes on average. IMO, any responsible person will make all arrangements possible to be in a position to protect himself and family for those 11 minutes. Here in florida we have a lot of legal shootings where a junkie idiot will accost an armed civilian and get dead for it, and nobody ever loses sleep over it.
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When I read this last week, I didn't comment on it but now some of your statements are just out of hand so here we go.
First off, the case will be thrown out as soon as it goes to court because without the initial probable cause to approach this gentlemen, they have no reason to arrest him, so the rest is bullshit after that. Secondly, the officers actually did exactly what they were suppose to do and take the side of caution but once they knew he was a diabetic they should have un-handcuffed his ass and got him medical right away and did an incident report without arrest. So yeah they fucked up and now they are going to pay for it but not because they beat him up or any of that bullshit, simply because when they realised they made the mistake they didn't take the time to make it right, they tried covering their ass by making an arrest.
Yeah yeah, I was a cop for close to ten years, I get it.
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does anyone know what kind of drugs he was on? does anyone know if he had cocaine in his system? the wrote him a citation, that doesnt mean hes guilty of anything. the courts will figure out what to do with him.. its a very complicated issue -it should be sorted out in a courtroom..
cops are not doctors. how are they supposed to know if whatever medication he was taking would cause a person to go crazy? is everyone here 100% positive he didnt have any illegal drugs in his system? what if he mixed insulin with crack -which caused him to go nuts?
send his ass to court and they can bring in experts to say what led him to attack a cop..they can do a blood test to see whats in his system
what if he shot the cop. would his "insulin shock" excuse him of murder too?
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When I read this last week, I didn't comment on it but now some of your statements are just out of hand so here we go.
First off, the case will be thrown out as soon as it goes to court because without the initial probable cause to approach this gentlemen, they have no reason to arrest him, so the rest is bullshit after that. Secondly, the officers actually did exactly what they were suppose to do and take the side of caution but once they knew he was a diabetic they should have un-handcuffed his ass and got him medical right away and did an incident report without arrest. So yeah they fucked up and now they are going to pay for it but not because they beat him up or any of that bullshit, simply because when they realised they made the mistake they didn't take the time to make it right, they tried covering their ass by making an arrest.
Yeah yeah, I was a cop for close to ten years, I get it.
you were a cop for 10 years? do you know what probable cause is? or did you not read the case?
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In a very telling study, it was found that the average cop's psychological profile most resembled that of a career criminal -- more so than any other profession.
Cops are the necessary evil of any society, including our own. Unfortunately, it takes low-minded people to provide a barrier between reckless victimizers and the rest of society.
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Assaulting a cop...brilliant. The judges love that kind of stuff. ;)
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Those of us in concealed carry states only call the police to help clean up the remnants of those we've pinkmisted.
what do you carry 240
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A bodybuilder in Tucson, AZ onced showed the pigs how to fly like Lucy in the sky, and you should have seen them run........ 8)
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A bodybuilder in Tucson, AZ onced showed the pigs how to fly like Lucy in the sky, and you should have seen them run........ 8)
Well, of course they did, Tucson is one giant retirement community, they don't know how to deal with anyone under 65.
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yee haw.
yeah 240, guns are sweet
"A gunman has killed 32 people at a Virginia university, many of them students attending class, and then shot himself dead in the deadliest shooting rampage in US history."
and don't start the 'if the students were 'packing' bullshit
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yeah 240, guns are sweet
"A gunman has killed 32 people at a Virginia university, many of them students attending class, and then shot himself dead in the deadliest shooting rampage in US history."
and don't start the 'if the students were 'packing' bullshit
Man, and just a couple days before the 8 year anniversary of Columbine. My grandma was a librarian at Columbine and my aunt was a swim coach. It's tragic some assholes can't deal with their lives and feel they have to take it out on others.
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bodybuilding gossip of last week called. it wants its thread back.
good one ;D
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yeah 240, guns are sweet
"A gunman has killed 32 people at a Virginia university, many of them students attending class, and then shot himself dead in the deadliest shooting rampage in US history."
Do you use crack? No? Well it is illegal, and criminals get it. Imagine only the criminals having access to guns.
and don't start the 'if the students were 'packing' bullshit
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ive never used crack or 'pinkmisted' a school kid
ya tool
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i would have pinkmisted the shooter, absolutely.
i carry a glock 40 and a keltec 32, I have for over 9 years now. I've been punched once, shoved a few times, and threatened, but never pulled it or even made it known I was packing.
I believe that teachers should be able to carry a weapon. I worked in rough public schools when i was a teacher and yes, some of the kids were packing and I knew it. You never want to send a kid to the office when you know he had 2 gun charges the year before and he's wearing his blue n grays. It's a helpless position to be in.
IMO, the teachers at VT should have had the option to carry a fanny pack with a weapon and a panic alarm. The first time that kid reloaded, he would have been dropped. You wouldn't have had 60 dead. Or maybe he wouldn't have entered the classroom at all.
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I believe that teachers should be able to carry a weapon.
what year of their teaching degree should they learn 'pinkmisting'?
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cops should have stun gunned his stupid ass.
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what year of their teaching degree should they learn 'pinkmisting'?
haha 'pinkmisting' is a disparaging term used to describe the deading of bad guys.
If any teacher wishes to carry, they should have to go thru the normal background checks, accuracy requirements, legal understanding exams as the rest of us - plus an additional course in school law and situational requirements.
An armed society is a polite society. There are a lot of people whose last thought while looking up at a gunman is "I wish I had a weapon to defend myself".
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i would have pinkmisted the shooter, absolutely.
i carry a glock 40 and a keltec 32, I have for over 9 years now. I've been punched once, shoved a few times, and threatened, but never pulled it or even made it known I was packing.
I believe that teachers should be able to carry a weapon. I worked in rough public schools when i was a teacher and yes, some of the kids were packing and I knew it. You never want to send a kid to the office when you know he had 2 gun charges the year before and he's wearing his blue n grays. It's a helpless position to be in.
IMO, the teachers at VT should have had the option to carry a fanny pack with a weapon and a panic alarm. The first time that kid reloaded, he would have been dropped. You wouldn't have had 60 dead. Or maybe he wouldn't have entered the classroom at all.
That's going into the what if's a little to much. Then they just would of went into the uni gym where everyone is in there shorts and did the same. That's complete bullshit. Unless we carry guns everywhere as part of redneck pride or something. Your advantage with a gun go's away because it just causes the shooters to kill the teacher's first. On top of that if the punk knows you got a gun it just makes the idea of using it as a weapon instead a tool of fear way stronger. I mean if they hall it out they know they gotta use it. This sure as hell don't mean people aren't gonna stop with crime either deperate people are deperate people. It just means when they do it there gonna be a bit more prepared.
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That's going into the what if's a little to much. Then they just would of went into the uni gym where everyone is in there shorts and did the same. That's complete bullshit. Unless we carry guns everywhere as part of redneck pride or something. Your advantage with a gun go's away because it just causes the shooters to kill the teacher's first. On top of that if the punk knows you got a gun it just makes the idea of using it as a weapon instead a tool of fear way stronger. I mean if they hall it out they know they gotta use it. This sure as hell don't mean people aren't gonna stop with crime either deperate people are deperate people. It just means when they do it there gonna be a bit more prepared.
In Oregon and utah, if you own a permit to carry, you can carry on campus as well.
If that has been the case, the moment that kid entered the first classroom and pointed that gun, you would have had 3 to 6 people in class legally draw their weapons and stop the crime in progress.
And it would have been a quiet, hero story instead of a massacre. But I guess the new law saying VT students cannot even have weapons in the cars, really paid off, eh? :(
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cops should have stun gunned his stupid ass.
yeah its always a smart move to get within 9 feet of an active shooter to use less lethal force ::)
grow the fuck up old-man
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In Oregon and utah, if you own a permit to carry, you can carry on campus as well.
If that has been the case, the moment that kid entered the first classroom and pointed that gun, you would have had 3 to 6 people in class legally draw their weapons and stop the crime in progress.
And it would have been a quiet, hero story instead of a massacre. But I guess the new law saying VT students cannot even have weapons in the cars, really paid off, eh? :(
gun control would have never prevented this crisis,you and i both know this but since this board is full of optimist and few realist your wasting your breath :-\
they gave me back my h&k usp 45 the other day so i am carrying again now too ;D
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gun control would have never prevented this crisis,you and i both know this but since this board is full of optimist and few realist your wasting your breath :-\
they gave me back my h&k usp 45 the other day so i am carrying again now too ;D
Agreed. they had COMPLETE gun control there - a ZERO gun law. Even people who legally carried couldn't have them in their cars.
And we see the result.
The MSNBC anchor just outright asked a guest "Do you believe if several kids had been LEGALLY carrying in each class, this could have ended differently?"
The guest, an anti-gun guy from the Brady Instititute, refused to answer.
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Agreed. they had COMPLETE gun control there - a ZERO gun law. Even people who legally carried couldn't have them in their cars.
And we see the result.
The MSNBC anchor just outright asked a guest "Do you believe if several kids had been LEGALLY carrying in each class, this could have ended differently?"
The guest, an anti-gun guy from the Brady Instititute, refused to answer.
what model glock do you carry,my guess is model 22
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nah, baby glock, the G27.
I used to own a G22, but you ever try sitting thru at the movie theater with it? ouch
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nah, baby glock, the G27.
I used to own a G22, but you ever try sitting thru at the movie theater with it? ouch
yeah ever since my tactical incident(you may remember),they had my h&k for ballistics but they gave it back sunday.
but it is taking some getting used to,to carry that bigg-ass thing again i had been carrying a tanfoglio full-size tacticle 9mm it was very thin and i might start carrying it again
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yeah ever since my tactical incident(you may remember),they had my h&k for ballistics but they gave it back sunday.
but it is taking some getting used to,to carry that bigg-ass thing again i had been carrying a tanfoglio full-size tacticle 9mm it was very thin and i might start carrying it again
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How long did they hold it for? My brother shot a man who tried to rob his pharmacy. Took 22 months to get his G30 back.
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How long did they hold it for? My brother shot a man who tried to rob his pharmacy. Took 22 months to get his G30 back.
around 6-8 months i think ,do not really remember
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around 6-8 months i think ,do not really remember
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that's pretty quick. you were wearing a badge tho. they kept jerking him around for his piece. Turns out the cop that caught the case actually got to KEEP the gun if my brother didn't claim it. So he kept routing it around from place to place.