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Title: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: donrhummy on April 19, 2007, 01:40:03 PM
TEF (Thermic Effect Of Food) - In simple terms, it's the increase in energy required to digest a certain food. generally this is around 10% of the calories ingested but fat is at only 3% while carbs are at 23%. In other words, eat 1 calorie of fat and you'll have more left over energy than 1 calorie of a carb.

Some more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermic_effect_of_food

An interesting point as well, is that your body composition as well as activity and meal frequency can ALSO affect TEF. So eating 1 calorie as a sedentary fat person eating once a day will not end up as the same amount of post-processing energy as an active, in shape person eating 8 times a day.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11079826&dopt=Abstract
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The course of energy expenditure after a meal can vary widely with regard to the slope of onset, amplitude, and duration of the thermic effect. The aim of the present study was to explore the relationship between the thermic effect of food (TEF), as characterized by kinetic analysis of postprandial energy expenditure, body composition, and variables related to the metabolic syndrome including central obesity, hypertension, and glucose tolerance...This study shows that kinetic analysis of postprandial energy expenditure can be used to examine the determinants of the time course of the thermic effect of food in man.

The lesson: a calorie does NOT equal a calorie.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: dseiler on April 19, 2007, 01:58:23 PM
Where's TA at?
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 19, 2007, 02:01:35 PM
a bitch is a bitch
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: donrhummy on April 19, 2007, 04:21:27 PM
Oh, and good luck to TA.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2007, 04:25:33 PM
hahah dont be gay a calorie is a calorie keep calories LOW LOW LOW when dieting and alternate from a low carb day to a low fat day

day one 80 percent calories from carbs . total calories 800

day 2 50 percent of calories from fats 20 percent from protien total calories 800

1hour of running /jogging cardio a day

your set
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 19, 2007, 04:28:09 PM
DW, you're pulling an alexxx here. the schtick was funny for a little while, now it's just stupid.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Bast000 on April 19, 2007, 04:29:56 PM
DW, you're pulling an alexxx here. the schtick was funny for a little while, now it's just stupid.

DW really eats that way.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: donrhummy on April 19, 2007, 08:46:27 PM
hahah dont be gay a calorie is a calorie

Um...no it's not. Different types of calories have different thermic effects on human bodies. There's no question about this. A calorie of fat is NOT the same to your body as a calorie of a carbohydrate. Sorry if that bursts your bubble but that's the way it works in reality.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2007, 08:53:05 PM
Um...no it's not. Different types of calories have different thermic effects on human bodies. There's no question about this. A calorie of fat is NOT the same to your body as a calorie of a carbohydrate. Sorry if that bursts your bubble but that's the way it works in reality.

right they might all have different thermic effects but it really means jack shit in the end. stick to high potassium foods like grapejuice , peanuts and youll be ok
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Wikidudeman on April 19, 2007, 09:12:39 PM
TEF (Thermic Effect Of Food) - In simple terms, it's the increase in energy required to digest a certain food. generally this is around 10% of the calories ingested but fat is at only 3% while carbs are at 23%. In other words, eat 1 calorie of fat and you'll have more left over energy than 1 calorie of a carb.

Some more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermic_effect_of_food

An interesting point as well, is that your body composition as well as activity and meal frequency can ALSO affect TEF. So eating 1 calorie as a sedentary fat person eating once a day will not end up as the same amount of post-processing energy as an active, in shape person eating 8 times a day.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11079826&dopt=Abstract
The lesson: a calorie does NOT equal a calorie.

Your sources don't support what you're saying. The fact that our bodies use more calories to burn specific types of calories is irrelevant to the contention that 1 calorie=1 calorie. Comparing one calorie of protein to one calorie of carbohydrates and they are the same as far as energy content goes. The fact that one is harder to digest isn't relevant to their actual baselevel energy content.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Birdman on April 20, 2007, 01:29:26 AM
Your sources don't support what you're saying. The fact that our bodies use more calories to burn specific types of calories is irrelevant to the contention that 1 calorie=1 calorie. Comparing one calorie of protein to one calorie of carbohydrates and they are the same as far as energy content goes. The fact that one is harder to digest isn't relevant to their actual baselevel energy content.

Anyone who has studied nutrition and dietetics is familiar with the Thermal Effect of food. 
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 20, 2007, 01:56:53 AM
This sounds like it's going back to that whole celery arguement.. where you actually burn more calories chewing and eating a piece of celery then is in the celery.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Wikidudeman on April 20, 2007, 02:02:16 AM
Anyone who has studied nutrition and dietetics is familiar with the Thermal Effect of food. 

I know what the Thermic Effect of Food is. It's irrelevant to the discussion of whether "a calorie is a calorie".
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 20, 2007, 02:07:54 AM
I know what the Thermic Effect of Food is. It's irrelevant to the discussion of whether "a calorie is a calorie".

Exactly. 
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: johnnytosh on April 20, 2007, 04:04:51 AM
I know what the Thermic Effect of Food is. It's irrelevant to the discussion of whether "a calorie is a calorie".

Obviously you don't. 
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 20, 2007, 05:31:27 AM
hahah dont be gay a calorie is a calorie keep calories LOW LOW LOW when dieting and alternate from a low carb day to a low fat day

day one 80 percent calories from carbs . total calories 800

day 2 50 percent of calories from fats 20 percent from protien total calories 800

1hour of running /jogging cardio a day

your set

dude, unless you are going on stage in a couple of days. That is way too low

hell, I am past that amount by lunch
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Old_Rooster on April 20, 2007, 05:46:26 AM
Um...no it's not. Different types of calories have different thermic effects on human bodies. There's no question about this. A calorie of fat is NOT the same to your body as a calorie of a carbohydrate. Sorry if that bursts your bubble but that's the way it works in reality.
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: donrhummy on April 20, 2007, 07:53:52 AM
Your sources don't support what you're saying. The fact that our bodies use more calories to burn specific types of calories is irrelevant to the contention that 1 calorie=1 calorie. Comparing one calorie of protein to one calorie of carbohydrates and they are the same as far as energy content goes. The fact that one is harder to digest isn't relevant to their actual baselevel energy content.

Actually, they support exactly what I'm saying. Look, if you eat 1 calorie and by the time it's reached a usable state in your body, it's got the energy value of .97 calories and another calorie in that state has the energy value of .77 calories, and you've exercised to where you're burned .77 calories, then the first calorie will result in stored energy, the second will not. That's why 1 calorie does NOT always equal 1 calorie.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: CT_Muscle on April 20, 2007, 08:07:32 AM
Does fat build muscle? do carbs build muscle?, protein builds muscle you need a balance of all three.....a calorie is NOT a calorie.....END OF STORY
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 20, 2007, 08:09:27 AM
a bitch is a bitch

whether poor or rich?
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Wiggs on April 20, 2007, 08:25:19 AM
whether poor or rich?

Even more when she givin' the 10 day itch.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 20, 2007, 08:28:09 AM
 Food makes me sick.

  (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-9lJr4XRANI0dM:http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2006/08/01/dvd-blazingsaddles-mug.jpg)
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Wiggs on April 20, 2007, 08:41:36 AM
Food makes me sick.

  (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-9lJr4XRANI0dM:http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2006/08/01/dvd-blazingsaddles-mug.jpg)

That dude looks like snitch.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: dodster on April 20, 2007, 08:50:38 AM
this is where TA gets his calories from: how many cals u reckon he get from it about 150?  remember the principle a cal is a cal, so therefore u can eat dogshit and still look the same
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Wikidudeman on April 20, 2007, 10:20:31 PM
Actually, they support exactly what I'm saying. Look, if you eat 1 calorie and by the time it's reached a usable state in your body, it's got the energy value of .97 calories and another calorie in that state has the energy value of .77 calories, and you've exercised to where you're burned .77 calories, then the first calorie will result in stored energy, the second will not. That's why 1 calorie does NOT always equal 1 calorie.

This has nothing to do with the actual energy content of the calories though.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: Rami on April 20, 2007, 11:16:15 PM
Food will make you fat. Food is bad.
Title: Re: Still think a calorie is a calorie?
Post by: gtbro1 on April 21, 2007, 03:16:13 AM
That dude looks like snitch.

That is Gene Wilder. That pic  was his character from "BLAZING SADDLES"...