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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: drkaje on April 19, 2007, 08:08:05 PM
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Uncomplicated might have been a better choice of words. :)
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Uncomplicated...hmmmm... does that mean low maintenance? Some guys prefer that. Others want the high maintenence, high performance, like comparing a muscle car to an economy car...Most would love to have the Ferrari, but have to be happy with something a little more sensible. So yes, I think "uncomplicated" is too boring for some and maybe most.
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Uncomplicated...hmmmm...does that mean low maintenance? Some guys prefer that. Others want the high maintenence, high performance, like comparing a muscle car to an economy car...Most would love to have the Ferrari, but have to be happy with something a little more sensible. So yes, I think "uncomplicated" is too boring for some and maybe most.
riiight most guys dont want a total bombshell that isn't a pain in the ass to deal with at the same time ::)
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Uncomplicated...hmmmm...does that mean low maintenance? Some guys prefer that. Others want the high maintenence, high performance, like comparing a muscle car to an economy car...Most would love to have the Ferrari, but have to be happy with something a little more sensible. So yes, I think "uncomplicated" is too boring for some and maybe most.
BG,
Let's say you earn 50K/year. The gift of a Ferrari would be a curse. You wouldn't be able to afford the insurance, tires, maintainance, gas, oil changes, etc... And, there are only certain tmes of the year and roads you can drive it. God forbid it breaks down, you'll either go into the poor house trying to fix it or take a huge loss. :)
Tons of people would love to drive a Ferrari but only a few can really afford one.
People are the same way, some just require more emotional currency. I'm not talking high maintainance in the simple stuff (shoes, hair, nails) department more along the lines of people who are very needy and/or incapable of being emotionally self sufficient.
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That all depends how one would define high maintnance. Me personally, I don't like slobs. People who constantly wear joggers, no make up, etc. Then again, who wants a person who wears full make up and a body suit just to go to a supermarket to pick up a few groceries? It all depends on the person. I take pride in the way I look so I would expect the same in return from a person I was dating. But thats just me :)
PB
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I like uncomplicated woman.......... chicks who almost think like guys.
I have dated a few very complicated woman, unless you are a special kinda guy it goes no where.
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I like uncomplicated woman.......... chicks who almost think like guys.
I have dated a few very complicated woman, unless you are a special kinda guy it goes no where.
Complicated is to the brain of the simple, as beauty is to the eye of the beholder. ;)
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there's uncomplicated women out there?
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there's uncomplicated women out there?
Complicated is to the brain of the simple, as beauty is to the eye of the beholder. ;)
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guys only care about looks
stop thinking that men think like women :)
E
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Without knowing the age of the questioner I cannot apropriately answer the question of to be or not to be uncomplicated. However, the younger a man is the less complicated he wants his woman to be because he doesn't have to "work" at the relationship which in turn means he won't have to work on himself. The older a man is the more challenging he wants his woman to be; he will be bored mentally with anything less plus it is a sexual turn on to have someone who can match you wit for wit.
When you find a woman that thinks like a man she is usually dumbing down.
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Without knowing the age of the questioner I cannot apropriately answer the question of to be or not to be uncomplicated. However, the younger a man is the less complicated he wants his woman to be because he doesn't have to "work" at the relationship which in turn means he won't have to work on himself. The older a man is the more challenging he wants his woman to be; he will be bored mentally with anything less plus it is a sexual turn on to have someone who can match you wit for wit.
When you find a woman that thinks like a man she is usually dumbing down.
Hmmm, my experience has been more along the lines of... people who constantly try to challenge you do so to keep you off balance so their lack of substance doesn't become apparent. In a lot of cases the 'eccentric' behaviors (which is only cute for a while) some of us display are signs of deeper problems we tend to ignore for whatever reason.
An uncomplicated person, IMO, has most of their relationship issues worked out in advance. That way, when there's an issue, they're actually dealing with you on a subconcious level not their parents, ex's, boss, etc..
I'm not suggesting people can't have emotional baggage, that would be stupid and judgemental. All I'm suggesting is that people should know which trip their baggage is from. :)
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Hmmm, my experience has been more along the lines of... people who constantly try to challenge you do so to keep you off balance so their lack of substance doesn't become apparent. In a lot of cases the 'eccentric' behaviors (which is only cute for a while) some of us display are signs of deeper problems we tend to ignore for whatever reason.
An uncomplicated person, IMO, has most of their relationship issues worked out in advance. That way, when there's an issue, they're actually dealing with you on a subconcious level not their parents, ex's, boss, etc..
I'm not suggesting people can't have emotional baggage, that would be stupid and judgemental. All I'm suggesting is that people should know which trip their baggage is from. :)
I agree, on all points for both men and women...
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Hmmm, my experience has been more along the lines of... people who constantly try to challenge you do so to keep you off balance so their lack of substance doesn't become apparent. In a lot of cases the 'eccentric' behaviors (which is only cute for a while) some of us display are signs of deeper problems we tend to ignore for whatever reason.
An uncomplicated person, IMO, has most of their relationship issues worked out in advance. That way, when there's an issue, they're actually dealing with you on a subconcious level not their parents, ex's, boss, etc..
I'm not suggesting people can't have emotional baggage, that would be stupid and judgemental. All I'm suggesting is that people should know which trip their baggage is from. :)
Agreed whole heartedly!!! Eccentric behaviors are a sign of deeper problems IMO and "we" tend to ignore them either because we are so glad to be with someone or the sex is on point (two totally different issues for a thread discussion). I wouldn't go as far as to say that an uncomplicated person has a lot their relationship issues worked out, it takes some time and a lot of self reflection (possibly a couple of 45 minute hour sessions in someone's office) to undo the damage of toxic parenting, abusive family situtions, etc.; but I think a healthy person is willing to address issues and thus may appear to be complicated.
As far as the trip and the luggage is concerned, we not only need to know which trip the baggage came from but also willing to start unpacking to make it a little lighter.
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Agreed whole heartedly!!! Eccentric behaviors are a sign of deeper problems IMO and "we" tend to ignore them either because we are so glad to be with someone or the sex is on point (two totally different issues for a thread discussion). I wouldn't go as far as to say that an uncomplicated person has a lot their relationship issues worked out, it takes some time and a lot of self reflection (possibly a couple of 45 minute hour sessions in someone's office) to undo the damage of toxic parenting, abusive family situtions, etc.; but I think a healthy person is willing to address issues and thus may appear to be complicated.
As far as the trip and the luggage is concerned, we not only need to know which trip the baggage came from but also willing to start unpacking to make it a little lighter.
Start it up......
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That thread would probably die a painful death. :)
A lot of people don't know how automatic some of their reactions are or the extent to which old baggage affects new relationships.
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Yes you can tell almost immediately, at least I can. womens intuition???
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Yes you can tell almost immediately, at least I can. womens intuition???
Do most people know how messed up they are or why?
Doesn't take a lot of 'intuition' to figure out why people wouldn't talk about those things. :)
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Wow a thread that I actually enjoyed reading. Thanks, nice to know there is still some "substance' left around here. ;)
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guys only care about looks
Like the ones you dream of getting from him?
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there's uncomplicated women out there?
>:(
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Is being overly complicated a sign of internal unhappiness?
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Is being overly complicated a sign of internal unhappiness?
Define overly complicated. I won't be crude, but if you look at some responses on other boards, your's included ;), "overly complicated" could simply mean she's human rather than a breathing blow up doll.
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Define overly complicated. I won't be crude, but if you look at some responses on other boards, your's included ;), "overly complicated" could simply mean she's human rather than a breathing blow up doll.
You know exactly what I mean. :)
Besides, don't confuse threads. This forum has stricter rules and comments about 'selfishness' would have to be excessively dumbed down or nicened up too much. ;)
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You know exactly what I mean. :)
Besides, don't confuse threads. This forum has stricter rules and comments about 'selfishness' would have to be excessively dumbed down or nicened up too much. ;)
Yes I do know... :)
I think the more intelligent one is, the more complicated you will be. Not necessarily in a "bad" way, but more aware of certain worldly or non-worldly things... politics, perceptions, intuitions, passion... etc. Goes for both sexes. Don't you think?
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Yes I do know... :)
I think the more intelligent one is, the more complicated you will be. Not necessarily in a "bad" way, but more aware of certain worldly or non-worldly things... politics, perceptions, intuitions, passion... etc. Goes for both sexes. Don't you think?
Just keep telling yourself that. :)
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Just keep telling yourself that. :)
oh come on dr j... are you going to tell me that someone with an IQ of 90 is going to have the same life experience, hopes and dreams, as someone with a 130 + IQ? And are you telling me that the simplistic 90 is something to shoot for in terms of a love interest because she or he is "less trouble"? Only really insecure people want to be with someone who is less than they are. ;)
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I'm going to largely agree with Deedee on this one, I've noticed (personal experience) that intelligence allows for nuances and details, why? intelligent people have more mental resources to cope with information and usually have a better concentration. I've seen a lot of not so bright people have very black and white (and therefore regarded as uncomplicated) world views, even concerning the most trivial of things. Intelligence allows for better integration of information and a more nuanced view of life. It is however not a guarantee for well developed frame of mind and an IQ is of course only a small fraction of the equation.
I find that I need someone that can match me in wits as a partner, I need to be inspired, challenged.
But on the matter of complication, I'm hardly a complicated person, I have clear views on most subjects, but most of those views are the result of an extensive cognitive process. When confronted with good evidence from a plausible source I'm willing to change my views.
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I'm going to largely agree with Deedee on this one, I've noticed (personal experience) that intelligence allows for nuances and details, why? intelligent people have more mental resources to cope with information and usually have a better concentration. I've seen a lot of not so bright people have very black and white (and therefore regarded as uncomplicated) world views, even concerning the most trivial of things. Intelligence allows for better integration of information and a more nuanced view of life. It is however not a guarantee for well developed frame of mind and an IQ is of course only a small fraction of the equation.
I find that I need someone that can match me in wits as a partner, I need to be inspired, challenged.
But on the matter of complication, I'm hardly a complicated person, I have clear views on most subjects, but most of those views are the result of an extensive cognitive process. When confronted with good evidence from a plausible source I'm willing to change my views.
Exactly. :) Of course there are other things to consider, like someone's emotional maturity... but intelligence helps. You don't get bored.
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I'm going to largely agree with Deedee on this one, I've noticed (personal experience) that intelligence allows for nuances and details, why? intelligent people have more mental resources to cope with information and usually have a better concentration. I've seen a lot of not so bright people have very black and white (and therefore regarded as uncomplicated) world views, even concerning the most trivial of things. Intelligence allows for better integration of information and a more nuanced view of life. It is however not a guarantee for well developed frame of mind and an IQ is of course only a small fraction of the equation.
I find that I need someone that can match me in wits as a partner, I need to be inspired, challenged.
But on the matter of complication, I'm hardly a complicated person, I have clear views on most subjects, but most of those views are the result of an extensive cognitive process. When confronted with good evidence from a plausible source I'm willing to change my views.
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Cool, I've never gotten so many e-trophies in my life ;D
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Cool, I've never gotten so many e-trophies in my life ;D
I've never presented so many e-trophies to someone in my life either. Good job! :)
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Well?
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Well?
>:(
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oh come on dr j... are you going to tell me that someone with an IQ of 90 is going to have the same life experience, hopes and dreams, as someone with a 130 + IQ? And are you telling me that the simplistic 90 is something to shoot for in terms of a love interest because she or he is "less trouble"? Only really insecure people want to be with someone who is less than they are. ;)
I'm saying some people feign 'complicaticatedness' to get away with being a pain in the butt and/or to divert your attention away from how shallow they are.
A person with their feces organized in one place wouldn't need to go through the effort of letting a man/woman know it. Having one's stuff together would be evident.
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I'm saying some people feign 'complicaticatedness' to get away with being a pain in the butt and/or to divert your attention away from how shallow they are.
A person with their feces organized in one place wouldn't need to go through the effort of letting a man/woman know it. Having one's stuff together would be evident.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. :-\
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I don't think we're talking about the same thing. :-\
What does "less than what they are" mean?
Besides, I'm far from convinced that IQ is an accurate measure of a person's potential. It's been said that people can be express genious within their limitations. It seems more common to meet 'smart' people who underachieve than otherwise.
Also, people are quick to confuse education with smartness. :)
Deedles,
How often do you meet someone who you honestly feel is smart?
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There's an ungoing debate in the G&O forum about IQ and intelligence and in which way they correlate.
IQ is a very strictly defined construct of intelligence, IQ is culturally biased and varies over time. It's useful as indicator but not much more. Intelligence is the ability to overcome problems and adapt to new situations and is a broad set of coping mechanisms.
Education indeed does not equal intelligence, sure, there's a decent correlation but a lot of slack can be picked up by simple plain hard work. I've spoken to a psychologist from a well known dutch assessment center and she told me only half of the people with an academic title really have an academic level of performance.
It's been said that people can be express genious within their limitations
The idiot savant idea I presume, in many cases the basis is obsessive behaviour. The number of idiot savants is very very small, thanks to the movie "Rainman" people believe that every autist is a genius that can count. Excellence doesn't require intelligence, rather perseverance and attention to detail. Intelligence won't hurt but it's not a prerequisite.
It seems more common to meet 'smart' people who underachieve than otherwise.
Hmm I've met more people that surprised me of how far they've come with limited intelligence. "Street smarts' is such a phenomenon, a good understanding of human nature can get you very far. There's a lot of people in management positions that really have no business there, result of favoritism.