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Title: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:03:34 AM
According to Dr Budwig, she found the cure against cancer but the health field does not want to listen because the medical field to include pharmaceutical industries could lose out in making a profit if people actually got healthier? 

She states that her Flax oil and cottage cheese diet is a cure and prevention measure. Flax oil and cottage cheese is very inexpensive.

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Dr. Budwig found that the blood of seriously ill cancer patients was deficient in certain important essential ingredients which included substances called phosphatides and lipoproteins, while the blood of a healthy person always contains sufficient quantities of these essential ingredients.

She found that when these natural ingredients where replaced over approximately a three month period, tumors gradually receded, weakness and anemia disappeared and life energy was restored. Symptoms of cancer, liver dysfunction and diabetes were alleviated.

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Budwig claims that the diet is both a preventative and a curative. She says the absence of linol-acids [in the average western diet] is responsible for the production of oxydase, which induces cancer growth and is the cause of many other chronic disorders

What do you guys believe? Is there a conspiracy in the medical community and pharmaceutical industry because they could lose out on making all this money if this cancer cure is real?

Read the story and the testimonials:

http://www.aspartame.ca/page_c1.htm (http://www.aspartame.ca/page_c1.htm)


Testimonials:  http://www.beckwithfamily.com/Flax2.html (http://www.beckwithfamily.com/Flax2.html)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: The Squadfather on April 20, 2007, 09:04:35 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
Get off the internet and go confront reality. I'm sure your family misses you
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Motorbreath on April 20, 2007, 09:07:44 AM
There is no conspiricy in the Pharma industry.....I work in the industry, several of my customers currently have cancer drugs in the pipeline as well as approved by the FDA.

The problem currently is that they are creating drugs that target and SLOW DOWN current types of cancer, once the Government allows the stem cell research to take off a cure will happen in the next 10 years.

Pharma companies will make BILLIONS of dollars if they can create the proper cure.... 
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 09:09:01 AM

Pharma companies will make BILLIONS of dollars if they can create the proper cure.... 

If that happens I have no doubt they will post on Getbig.com cause everybody is a billionaire here.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:10:23 AM
I agree pharma companies will make billions...its all about money ;)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:16:46 AM
For your information, Dr Budwig has been nominated fo the Nobel Peace Prize multiple times
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 09:20:04 AM
For your information, Dr Budwig has been nominated fo the Nobel Peace Prize multiple times

LOL "Budwig" what a name haha
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:22:25 AM
BSB, how old are you?

Cant you have intelligent and thought provoking conversations?
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: avesher on April 20, 2007, 09:29:41 AM
good find jerryme--interesting that the website is called aspartame, one of the worst additives ever.  Omega 3's are proving to be a cure or preventative for a lot of issues as time goes on.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: youandme on April 20, 2007, 09:34:45 AM
yikes here is the whole diet.

Before breakfast - a glass of Acidophilus milk or Sauerkraut juice is taken.

Breakfast - Muesli (regular cereal) is overlaid with 2 tablespoons (30 ml) of Flax Oil and honey and fresh fruit according to season - berries, cherries, apricots, peaches, grated apple. Vary the flavour from day to day. Use any nuts except peanuts! Herbal teas as desired or black tea. A 4 oz (120 g) serving of THE SPREAD (directions below). This is fine to eat 'straight' like a custard, or add it to other foods taken in the day as you will see.

Morning tea (10am) - A glass of fresh carrot juice, apple, celery, or beet-apple juice is taken.

Lunch - Raw salad with yoghurt-Flax Oil Mayonnaise (directions below).
In addition to 'greens' salads, use grated turnips, carrots, kohlrabi, radishes, sauerkraut or cauliflower. A fine powder of horseradish, chives or parsley may be added for flavour.

Cooked Meal Course - Steamed vegetables, potatoes, or such grains as rice, buck-wheat or millet may be served. to these add either THE SPREAD or THE MAYO - for flavour and to up your intake of Flax Oil. Also mix THE SPREAD with potatoes for an especially hearty meal. Add caraway, chives, parsley or other herbs.

Dessert - Mix fresh fruit other than those used for breakfast with THE SPREAD, this time (instead of honey), flavoured using cream of lemon, vanilla or berries.

Afternoon Tea (4pm) - A small glass of natural wine (no preservatives) or champagne or fresh fruit juice with 1-2 tablespoons of honey-coated Fax Seeds.

Supper - Have this early, at 6pm. Make a hot meal using buckwheat, oat or soy cakes. grits from buckwheat are the very best and can be placed in a vegetable soup, or in a more solid form of cakes with herbal sauce. Sweet sauces & soups can always be given far more healing energy by adding THE SPREAD. Only honey or grape juice can be used for sweeteners. NO white sugar (or brown!) Only freshly squeezed juices and NOT reconstituted juices (preservative danger) may be used. These must be completely natural.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:37:28 AM
Thanks Avesher...

There are so many cancer telethons where people invest millions ever year to find a cure for cancer and many other diseases. You would think they should be able to find a cure after all the millions have been donated after all these years?

So what are they doing to all this money? Who is profiting from all these donations done every year?

We put a man on the moon and created every weapon there is that would and could annihilate this planet and its inhabitants...yet we cant have world peace yet alone find a cure for cancer?

The reason has got to be greed. There is no money to be made in peace and the greedy people never stop being greedy but want more possessions...

I believe there is a cure for cancer but the medical industry will not share it because they would lose out on so much money. Plus its a way to keep population control with all these diseases running rampant
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 09:37:45 AM
BSB, how old are you?

Cant you have intelligent and thought provoking conversations?

I'm 43. Who wants to talk about cancer anyway. It's a mind disease. I never bought that line
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 09:40:56 AM
The actual recommendation:

Dosage: The recommended dosage for health maintenance is 1 tablespoon of Flax oil to 1/4 cup cottage cheese per 100 pounds body weight. In her book, Dr. Budwig says she uses 3 tablespoons of oil a day and sometimes up to 6 for people very seriously ill. These dosages are just suggestions and in no way constitute medical advice. For more information we suggest reading Dr. Budwig's books.

Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Motorbreath on April 20, 2007, 09:48:18 AM
Thanks Avesher...

There are so many cancer telethons where people invest millions ever year to find a cure for cancer and many other diseases. You would think they should be able to find a cure after all the millions have been donated after all these years?

So what are they doing to all this money? Who is profiting from all these donations done every year?

We put a man on the moon and created every weapon there is that would and could annihilate this planet and its inhabitants...yet we cant have world peace yet alone find a cure for cancer?

The reason has got to be greed. There is no money to be made in peace and the greedy people never stop being greedy but want more possessions...

I believe there is a cure for cancer but the medical industry will not share it because they would lose out on so much money. Plus its a way to keep population control with all these diseases running rampant

It takes a Pharma/Biotech company 15-20 years and 50-100 million dollars to create 1 drug, it is a long complicated process, with clinical trials different stages etc......it sounds much easier than it actually is.

 
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: the Pure Majestic on April 20, 2007, 09:48:53 AM
I take fish oil sometimes, and I've never had cancer.

That's proof enough for me.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Disgusted on April 20, 2007, 09:53:10 AM
There is no conspiricy in the Pharma industry.....I work in the industry, several of my customers currently have cancer drugs in the pipeline as well as approved by the FDA.

The problem currently is that they are creating drugs that target and SLOW DOWN current types of cancer, once the Government allows the stem cell research to take off a cure will happen in the next 10 years.

Pharma companies will make BILLIONS of dollars if they can create the proper cure.... 

There will always be more money in treatment of a disease than a cure. Name all the diseases that we can currently cure??? 
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 10:00:47 AM
There will always be more money in treatment of a disease than a cure. Name all the diseases that we can currently cure??? 

Life
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: the Pure Majestic on April 20, 2007, 10:02:26 AM
Life

Are you depressed?

You're not turning EMO, are you?
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 10:03:15 AM
Are you depressed?

You're not turning EMO, are you?

shut the fuck up
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Max_Rep on April 20, 2007, 10:04:18 AM
There is no conspiricy in the Pharma industry.....I work in the industry...

Pharma companies will make BILLIONS of dollars if they can create the proper cure.... 


 ::)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: the Pure Majestic on April 20, 2007, 10:06:12 AM
shut the fuck up

That's better. 

Anger is always more manly than depression.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 20, 2007, 10:17:56 AM
For your information, Dr Budwig has been nominated fo the Nobel Peace Prize multiple times

So has Ben Weider.  ::)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 20, 2007, 10:25:23 AM
There will always be more money in treatment of a disease than a cure.  

True, but this is one case where the short-term thinking of corporations actually works to the public's benefit.  In most cases, the CEO of a major corporation will last in his role for about five years before he retires or is replaced. Obviously, the case is a bit different for founding CEO's like Bill Gates or Michael Dell, or Bill Marriott or someone like that, but it is generally true in the later years of a corporation, when professional MBA's are running the show.

Anyway,  corporate CEO's aren't thinking about the long-term viability of a company (beyond five years)...  frankly they don't care.  What concerns them is the profit they can take RIGHT NOW, while they still have their turn at bat.  The company that cures cancer will make enormous profits the first several years, even if it bankrupts them long-term.  That's enough time for said CEO to make billions and retire.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 11:19:34 AM
There will never be a company that cures cancer.

There is more money to be made in ailments, and treatments and medication than a simple nutritional cure such as prevention and living a healthy lifestyle.

The medical and pharma field is a billion dollar industy. A cure for cancer would make a lot of money initially but in the long run would ruin the medical and pharma community

Just look what happenned to a lot of new up and coming recording artists who will never make it due to music stealing such as free file sharing...

I believe there is already a cure for cancer but the world just isnt ready for people to live longer lives. Its all about making money....

How many stories have you read where they found a cure for an ailment but did not put it out until it was marketed so they can make a profit?
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 20, 2007, 11:42:02 AM
The Others on LOST cured cancer.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Disgusted on April 20, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
True, but this is one case where the short-term thinking of corporations actually works to the public's benefit.  In most cases, the CEO of a major corporation will last in his role for about five years before he retires or is replaced. Obviously, the case is a bit different for founding CEO's like Bill Gates or Michael Dell, or Bill Marriott or someone like that, but it is generally true in the later years of a corporation, when professional MBA's are running the show.

Anyway,  corporate CEO's aren't thinking about the long-term viability of a company (beyond five years)...  frankly they don't care.  What concerns them is the profit they can take RIGHT NOW, while they still have their turn at bat.  The company that cures cancer will make enormous profits the first several years, even if it bankrupts them long-term.  That's enough time for said CEO to make billions and retire.

You could not be more wrong. CEO's are not the ones who have control. The FDA which is controlled by our Gov. would never let a cure come to pass. Too many billions are being made by way to many people for this to happen. Hospitals alone would lose billions on all the cancer scam treatment.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Disgusted on April 20, 2007, 01:47:57 PM
I just drank a flax seed cottage cheese milkskake. YUM~!  :-X
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
Disgusted...you should have put some salt and pepper in it...would  have tasted savory :)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Disgusted on April 20, 2007, 01:53:10 PM
Disgusted...you should have put some salt and pepper in it...would  have tasted savory :)

Dude, don't you know that salt and pepper would totally destroy the cancer killing properties of the delicious concoction?? You need to do more research.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 01:58:06 PM
Oh man...I didnt know that...thanks for telling us!
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 20, 2007, 02:01:35 PM
Oh brother, first you're saying steroids are cheating because they're illegal, now cottage cheese and flax seed oil is curing cancer. Tell me this, do you even KNOW what cancer is?
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Princess L on April 20, 2007, 02:03:30 PM
According to Dr Budwig, she found the cure against cancer but the health field does not want to listen because the medical field to include pharmaceutical industries could lose out in making a profit if people actually got healthier? 

She states that her Flax oil and cottage cheese diet is a cure and prevention measure. Flax oil and cottage cheese is very inexpensive.


Her flax / cottage cheese diet has been around for several years.  I have a friend who was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and followed the diet.  Seemed it was effective for awhile.  He died about a year and a half after the diagnosis.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 02:06:59 PM
So Princess L...you are saying that the flax oil diet doesnt work?

And yes, canadaphiliac...steriods is cheating...you numb nuts !!
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 20, 2007, 02:08:50 PM
So Princess L...you are saying that the flax oil diet doesnt work?

And yes, canadaphiliac...steriods is cheating...you numb nuts !!
I'm thinking not, you got pretty well torn up on the fact in the other thread. You must be what, 12?  ::)
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 02:11:48 PM
You know Im a proponent for the proper use of anabolic compounds..

Personally...they do work but if you were to compete against someone who is on the juice and you werent...you better have better natural abilities, or better nutrition, or better food, and personal trainers than the guy who is "enhanced"

You should have debates with True Adonis on this!! You will lose that debate!

And Im actually 31....personally I know what anabolics can do.....and they do work..work too well in my honest opinion
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 20, 2007, 02:15:50 PM
You know Im a proponent for the proper use of anabolic compounds..

Personally...they do work but if you were to compete against someone who is on the juice and you werent...you better have better natural abilities, or better nutrition, or better food, and personal trainers than the guy who is "enhanced"

You should have debates with True Adonis on this!! You will lose that debate!

And Im actually 31....personally I know what anabolics can do.....and they do work..work too well in my honest opinion
I'd lose, because I don't deal well with schizophrenics.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 02:18:23 PM
canadaphiliac ...you are a lost cause ;)

just kidding bro...i love debating...you are a very intelligent person who makes me rethink what I think to be true
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 20, 2007, 02:22:55 PM
canadaphiliac ...you are a lost cause ;)

just kidding bro...i love debating...you are a very intelligent person who makes me rethink what I think to be true
Revelations are good. The removal of steroids would be the death of sports. No one wants to see 200 pound linebackers like in the 1940's. No one wants to see track times increasing. No one wants to see home runs that barely make it over the fence. We'd be left with NASCAR, and nobody wants that.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 20, 2007, 02:33:29 PM
You are so right..the purose ofd being human is excelling to be something more than what we currently are.

To break boundaries of human limitations
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 20, 2007, 02:42:54 PM
You are so right..the purose ofd being human is excelling to be something more than what we currently are.

To break boundaries of human limitations
When D-bol first came out it was approved by the FDA. They were banned because they were cheating. Studies show the average user doesn't compete in anything. So, despite a lack of medical evidence, the argument shifted to them causing sever side effects and death. When that was shown false, steroids became cheating because they were illegal, but hadn't they been made illegal because they were cheating? There is no logic, and the real explanation is that the culture we live in is very much against stronger individuals. you can see it everywhere, in how obesity has become so acceptable, and the body type we're told is ideal is some skinny 98-pound weakling who is 'toned' and 'fit'.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: mdgkmg on April 20, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
sounds like a bunch of crap to me. my father died when i was 12 of colon cancer he tried everything from flax to carrots and brocoli cauliflower the whole nine yards. the only thing that happend is a 6'2 250 pnd lean guy with 20-21" arms  big german fella shrank down back injury's caused his height to be about 5'10" weight of about 150 over the course of about 9 months. the height well thats due to back injury's disks and vertabrea's pretty well gone. just before he died he weighed at about 113 no jk. that was colon cancer caused his loss of weight and health. the "cures'' that ppl talk about now sure as hell ain't gonna work on everyone for the ones it does work on great but other than that your gonna die.
Title: Re: Flax Oil...cure for and preventative against cancer? What do you guys think?
Post by: GroinkTropin on April 21, 2007, 02:38:28 AM
yikes here is the whole diet.

Before breakfast - a glass of Acidophilus milk or Sauerkraut juice is taken.

Breakfast - Muesli (regular cereal) is overlaid with 2 tablespoons (30 ml) of Flax Oil and honey and fresh fruit according to season - berries, cherries, apricots, peaches, grated apple. Vary the flavour from day to day. Use any nuts except peanuts! Herbal teas as desired or black tea. A 4 oz (120 g) serving of THE SPREAD (directions below). This is fine to eat 'straight' like a custard, or add it to other foods taken in the day as you will see.

Morning tea (10am) - A glass of fresh carrot juice, apple, celery, or beet-apple juice is taken.

Lunch - Raw salad with yoghurt-Flax Oil Mayonnaise (directions below).
In addition to 'greens' salads, use grated turnips, carrots, kohlrabi, radishes, sauerkraut or cauliflower. A fine powder of horseradish, chives or parsley may be added for flavour.

Cooked Meal Course - Steamed vegetables, potatoes, or such grains as rice, buck-wheat or millet may be served. to these add either THE SPREAD or THE MAYO - for flavour and to up your intake of Flax Oil. Also mix THE SPREAD with potatoes for an especially hearty meal. Add caraway, chives, parsley or other herbs.

Dessert - Mix fresh fruit other than those used for breakfast with THE SPREAD, this time (instead of honey), flavoured using cream of lemon, vanilla or berries.

Afternoon Tea (4pm) - A small glass of natural wine (no preservatives) or champagne or fresh fruit juice with 1-2 tablespoons of honey-coated Fax Seeds.

Supper - Have this early, at 6pm. Make a hot meal using buckwheat, oat or soy cakes. grits from buckwheat are the very best and can be placed in a vegetable soup, or in a more solid form of cakes with herbal sauce. Sweet sauces & soups can always be given far more healing energy by adding THE SPREAD. Only honey or grape juice can be used for sweeteners. NO white sugar (or brown!) Only freshly squeezed juices and NOT reconstituted juices (preservative danger) may be used. These must be completely natural.

A buddy of mine's wife was put on a diet like that when she had cancer, the doctors didn't come up with it I think a dr in mexico did of all places. ANyway the docs here gave her pretty slim chance of survival, within 4 months she was better and 8 months cured. Unfortunately I believe the cancer recurred, no idea how she turned out but the doctors here did say her recovery was a miracle no matter how short lived.