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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Croatch on April 20, 2007, 03:05:33 PM
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Brokaid has sulfate, while Vasopro has HCl. Which is better?
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Don't everyone answer at once. I know how this site hates constructive threads...haha, including myself...boring.
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One is sulphate and the other HCL.
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croatch, you use ECA?
Flirting with the dark side? ;)
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Brokaid has sulfate, while Vasopro has HCl. Which is better?
It doesn't matter either way. Both will work just fine.
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Do you guys take ECA 2 or 3 times a day?
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Do you guys take ECA 2 or 3 times a day?
hahahaha, epic muscle wasting.
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Brokaid has sulfate, while Vasopro has HCl. Which is better?
Ephedrine sulphate is far more bioavailable, but the rate of absorption for ephedrine hydroclodide is faster.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I recently switched to the bronkaid for price reasons, but either work great. I might get a little more sweats from the bronkaid. Both great products
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hahahaha, epic muscle wasting.
everything is a trade off squad..some muscle lost for a lot a fat lost seems like a good trade to some people
expecially now that it is getting warmer...yes, those tiny tits as you like to call them, it is now their season
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everything is a trade off squad..some muscle lost for a lot a fat lost seems like a good trade to some people
expecially now that it is getting warmer...yes, those tiny tits as you like to call them, it is now their season
hahahaha, i know, i'm just angry because even when i take a little bit of that shit i start looking stringy, i lose weight FAST on that stuff, i'm trying lose bf the old fashiones way with diet and cardio. ;D
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I recently switched to the bronkaid for price reasons, but either work great. I might get a little more sweats from the bronkaid. Both great products
Same here, Bronkaid is about 20 cents a pill vs. 65 cents for Vasopro.
Ephedrine sulphate is far more bioavailable, but the rate of absorption for ephedrine hydroclodide is faster.
Explain it to me like a 5 year old.
So you absorb more of the sulphate, but the hydrocloride absorbs quicker?
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Brokaid has sulfate, while Vasopro has HCl. Which is better?
Just the name says to me Keep Away :-\
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hahahaha, i know, i'm just angry because even when i take a little bit of that shit i start looking stringy, i lose weight FAST on that stuff, i'm trying lose bf the old fashiones way with diet and cardio. ;D
you statement defies logic
so why would eca alone be any more of a muscle "waste" than cardio?
dude, get your ass up early, take the eca and then 45 min fast walk..you might even get a woman this summer :P
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you statement defies logic
so why would eca alone be any more of a muscle "waste" than cardio?
dude, get your ass up early, take the eca and then 45 min fast walk..you might even get a woman this summer :P
hahahahaha i get plenty of women "brutha", don't be angry that white chicks don't give you the time of day.
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hahahahaha i get plenty of women "brutha", don't be angry that white chicks don't give you the time of day.
I am white too...look at my sexy body..
I am too sexy to wear a shirt..chicks dig my hairy legs
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haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.
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haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.
poor people whose skid marks are worn with pride.
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haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.
Boxers are way better ;)
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The Hydrochloride form in inferior. Ditto for Glucosamine.
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Explain it to me like a 5 year old.
So you absorb more of the sulphate, but the hydrocloride absorbs quicker?
No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Fascinating stuff, well explained. Thanks.
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No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Looks like someone took freshman chemistry. LOL.
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Looks like someone took freshman chemistry. LOL.
::)....as if!
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HAHA that fucking picture is funny!!!!!!!!
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Like said before, hcl is less effective
Hcl is altered while sulfate is 'the real deal'
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broncaid is alot cheaper, I priced them yesturday. I found broncaid really quick it was like 5.99 for 30 tabs, I think. Primatine tabs were hard to find and they were about 12.99, not sure how many tabs you got.
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broncaid is alot cheaper, I priced them yesturday. I found broncaid really quick it was like 5.99 for 30 tabs, I think. Primatine tabs were hard to find and they were about 12.99, not sure how many tabs you got.
Princess L has been recommending Bronkaid for years. Sounds like no one was listening since suddenly it's become a hot topic.
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Croatch looks like shit, but most "naturals" on here do, to the dismay of us all...