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Title: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 23, 2007, 12:33:35 PM
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STEPHANOPOULOS:  How about the broader context?  After Columbine, you gave a speech where you blamed 35 — blamed the shootings on 35 years of liberalism.  You went — you said, "I want to say to the elite of this country, the elite news media, the liberal academic elite, the liberal political elite — I accuse you in Littleton of being afraid to talk about the mess you've made and being afraid to take responsibility for the things you have done, and instead foisting on the rest of us pathetic banalities because you don't have the courage to look at the world you have created."

Do you stand by that prescription today?
 
GINGRICH:  Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God, that if you kill somebody, you're committing an act of evil.

STEPHANOPOULOS:  But what does that have to do with liberalism?

GINGRICH:  Well, who has created a situation ethics, essentially, zone of not being willing to talk about any of these things.  Let me carry another example.  I strongly supported Imus being dismissed, but I also think the very thing he was dismissed for, which is the use of language which is stunningly degrading of women — the fact, for example, that one of the Halloween costumes this last year was being able to be either a prostitute or a pimp at 10, 11, 12 years of age, buying a costume, and we don't have any discussion about what's happened to our culture because while we're restricting political free speech under McCain-Feingold, we say it's impossible to restrict vulgar and vicious and anti-human speech.

And I would argue that that's a major component of what's happened to our culture in the last 40 years.

Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on April 23, 2007, 12:37:55 PM
The Va Tech shooter didn't own a video game system.  that theory was ruled out.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2007, 12:41:07 PM
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STEPHANOPOULOS:  How about the broader context?  After Columbine, you gave a speech where you blamed 35 — blamed the shootings on 35 years of liberalism.  You went — you said, "I want to say to the elite of this country, the elite news media, the liberal academic elite, the liberal political elite — I accuse you in Littleton of being afraid to talk about the mess you've made and being afraid to take responsibility for the things you have done, and instead foisting on the rest of us pathetic banalities because you don't have the courage to look at the world you have created."

Do you stand by that prescription today?
 
GINGRICH:  Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God, that if you kill somebody, you're committing an act of evil.

STEPHANOPOULOS:  But what does that have to do with liberalism?

GINGRICH:  Well, who has created a situation ethics, essentially, zone of not being willing to talk about any of these things.  Let me carry another example.  I strongly supported Imus being dismissed, but I also think the very thing he was dismissed for, which is the use of language which is stunningly degrading of women — the fact, for example, that one of the Halloween costumes this last year was being able to be either a prostitute or a pimp at 10, 11, 12 years of age, buying a costume, and we don't have any discussion about what's happened to our culture because while we're restricting political free speech under McCain-Feingold, we say it's impossible to restrict vulgar and vicious and anti-human speech.

And I would argue that that's a major component of what's happened to our culture in the last 40 years.



Where does he blame liberalism for the Va Tech massacre? 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 23, 2007, 12:57:07 PM
Where does he blame liberalism for the Va Tech massacre? 

Do you stand by that prescription today?
 
GINGRICH:  Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God,


He's comparing columbine to va tech.. And mistakenly blaming video games. Typical fox news camp conservative dribble.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 23, 2007, 12:59:02 PM
Where does he blame liberalism for the Va Tech massacre? 
Sorry, that was just a portion I copied, the topic of the first part of the show was the VA Tech Massacre.  That is what George was addressing when he said, "Do you stand by that prescription today?" under the topic of the VA Tech Disscussion. The question was asked during the portion of the show talking about the recent shootings.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: w8tlftr on April 23, 2007, 01:00:52 PM
Do you stand by that prescription today?
 
GINGRICH:  Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God,


He's comparing columbine to va tech.. And mistakenly blaming video games. Typical fox news camp conservative dribble.

I don't think he's necessarily blaming "video games" but our culture of violence and lack of respect for human life.

Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 23, 2007, 01:07:52 PM
I don't think he's necessarily blaming "video games" but our culture of violence and lack of respect for human life.



What's his logic for blaming that on liberalism? In a free society people will get trampled by others who wanna make money. And aren't true conservatives supposed to favor free and unregulated business? This guy is a fucking hypocrite and an idiot. These quotes from him are almost as bad when he called spanish a "ghetto language."  ::)
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 23, 2007, 01:08:18 PM
I don't think he's necessarily blaming "video games" but our culture of violence and lack of respect for human life.


Which is the fault of Liberalism according to Newt the Fruit.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2007, 01:10:10 PM
Do you stand by that prescription today?
 
GINGRICH:  Yes, I think the fact is, if you look at the amount of violence we have in games that young people play at 7, 8, 10, 12, 15 years of age, if you look at the dehumanization, if you look at the fact that we refuse to say that we are, in fact, endowed by our creator, that our rights come from God,


He's comparing columbine to va tech.. And mistakenly blaming video games. Typical fox news camp conservative dribble.

You're making an assumption. 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2007, 01:10:45 PM
Sorry, that was just a portion I copied, the topic of the first part of the show was the VA Tech Massacre.  That is what George was addressing when he said, "Do you stand by that prescription today?" under the topic of the VA Tech Disscussion. The question was asked during the portion of the show talking about the recent shootings.

Understood.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: w8tlftr on April 23, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
Which is the fault of Liberalism according to Newt the Fruit.

Conservatives play violent video games, listen to hard rock, and watch violent movies too.

The problem is people failing to take responsibility for their own actions. We live in a blame someone else first society.

Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 23, 2007, 02:21:43 PM
Conservatives play violent video games, listen to hard rock, and watch violent movies too.

The problem is people failing to take responsibility for their own actions. We live in a blame someone else first society.



Yeah
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: youandme on April 23, 2007, 02:48:54 PM
I don't think he's necessarily blaming "video games" but our culture of violence and lack of respect for human life.



So he's blaming the war?  Newt eats more words than calories nowadays.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: w8tlftr on April 23, 2007, 02:53:02 PM
So he's blaming the war?  Newt eats more words than calories nowadays.

No. He's blaming a society that has no respect for human life and no sense of accountability.

Listen, I'm not defending the man. I'm just interpreting what he said.

Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: Tre on April 24, 2007, 07:46:17 AM

Liberals and conservatives commit criminal acts at roughly the same frequency, but liberalism does teach the offenders that they aren't really responsible for their actions. 

Conservatives are more likely to feel guilty for doing wrong, I'd imagine, but feelings are tough to quantify. 

How much is Newt paying Jesse Jackson each year?
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich blames “Liberalism” for VA Tech massacre
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2007, 07:50:57 AM
Conservatives are more likely to feel guilty for doing wrong, I'd imagine, but feelings are tough to quantify. 

Really?

Conservatives are the ones advocating torture.  Conservatives are the ones calling for global imperialism.  Conservatives are the ones who have created this situation over the last 6 years.

The reason so many are leaving the repub party is that they have a conscience and their religious learnings don't match their party lines.