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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Big Lee on May 10, 2007, 03:23:48 PM
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Since the last installment, I have lost 15kg of fat so I am 100kg now. This is 220kg x 11. 23 weeks out from competition, both deadlifting and bodybuilding. Following Dave Palumbo diet.
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How much do those green plates weigh? Usually they are 110 pounds. Obviously they're not, but I'm just curious.
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20kg each
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how come they're not blue?
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We have blue, green and red plates that are all 20kg each. Im not sure why.
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for pure bodybuilding use lighter weight.
;D
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im surprised you dont have a hernia, it almost looks like a good morning. you need to bend your knees lower, thats the perfect deadlift, this is ego training. good luck
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im surprised you dont have a hernia, it almost looks like a good morning. you need to bend your knees lower, thats the perfect deadlift, this is ego training. good luck
for his mass and bodybuilding purposes its enough if this guy to use ..140-160kg at the end of a back workout. reps done yates style.
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for his mass and bodybuilding purposes its enough if this guy to use ..140-160kg at the end of a back workout. reps done yates style.
yes i agree, one good rep equals 5 of those.
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he should really let "weight hang" from his lats like dorian does in his video.
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guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.
beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now. >:(
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he should really let "weight hang" from his lats like dorian does in his video.
no matter how your form is i believe it will hang on the lats, also on the traps. if you do the deadlift correctly your hamstrings will be sore for days. deadlift is a excellent hamstring excersize. but its a dilemma if you do full range of motion for legs with squat, you ll work your hamstrings 2 a week that way. :-\
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guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.
beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now. >:(
thou art an obese powerlifer
:D
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The first 2/3's of the set looked good. But, you must have steel cables for your erectae spinae because those last reps were pretty grueling looking!
Good lifting though. By the way, how much is that in pounds? I'm a US resident and unlike my sister I never had to learn the metric system!
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guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.
beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now. >:(
eventually he will fuck up his lover-back if he keeps his form like that. just trying to help this guy out.
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no matter how your form is i believe it will hang on the lats, also on the traps. if you do the deadlift correctly your hamstrings will be sore for days. deadlift is a excellent hamstring excersize. but its a dilemma if you do full range of motion for legs with squat, you ll work your hamstrings 2 a week that way. :-\
no if you do them for back as a bodybuilder you should let them "hang from your lats" as yates did them.
if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder
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220 kg is not 480lbs its something like 484-485lbs
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no if you do them for back as a bodybuilder you should let them "hang from your lats" as yates did them.
if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder
ive stopped doing them from the floor, i pick them the bar up off the squat safety-bars. i think its safer for the back not to start from a low position with big weight. what video is that from doran? how did he let it hang from the lats?
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yes partial deadlifts are a good alternative for bodybuilders and more safe in the long run.
dorian yates video: blood and guts.
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ive stopped doing them from the floor, i pick them the bar up off the squat safety-bars. i think its safer for the back not to start from a low position with big weight. what video is that from doran? how did he let it hang from the lats?
hang from the lats: dorian didnt use maximal leg drive because he wasnt resetting the reps on the floor..he really let the weight hang from the lats in the bottom position because he was able to dominate the weight and used his upperbody to lift the it.
in blood and guts dorian "only" used 200kg for 8 reps (after pre exhausting with hyperextensions). if he wanted to do deadlifts powerlifting style im sure he would have pulled over 300kg.
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if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder
Yates did stiff-leg deadlifts for his hamstrings. Not conventional for his back like Ronnie does.
Two different movements, and it's intended for two separate muscle groups.
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yes partial deadlifts are a good alternative for bodybuilders and more safe in the long run.
dorian yates video: blood and guts.
no im not talking about partials, just the first rep to pick up the weight of a higher stance, not off the floor. its much better for the back, to prevent injury, doing deadlift starting from the floor is like starting benching from your chest up.
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Yates did stiff-leg deadlifts for his hamstrings. Not conventional for his back like Ronnie does.
Two different movements, and it's intended for two separate muscle groups.
i wasnt talking about hamstrings. yates did stiff leg deadlifts for hamstrings, yes. but i wasnt discussing that.
yates did deadlifts for his back too.
2 different kinds of deadlifts.
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no im not talking about partials, just the first rep to pick up the weight of a higher stance, not off the floor. its much better for the back, to prevent injury, doing deadlift starting from the floor is like starting benching from your chest up.
only reason to do it that way is if your gonna do em yates style.
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only reason to do it that way is if your gonna do em yates style.
i dont think you understand, when i pick it up, i step back and do full range of motion deadlift, and when finish lean forward to drop the weight on the bars. So that way you will warm up your lower-back with first lowering the weight down and then up from a starting position.
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guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.
beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now. >:(
Agreed...not perfect, but if you trained that hard consistantly, you would grow...period.
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Agreed...not perfect, but if you trained that hard consistantly, you would grow...period.
you would grow more (back) and be able to do deadlifts more often+ not risk injury if you do the deadlifts yates style and lift with the right weight for your body mass
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guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.
beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now. >:(
i agree, there was nothing wrong at all with any of those reps, that's 485 for 11 reps, very strong guy, it's easy to sit back and critique but how many in this thread could do that?
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i agree, there was nothing wrong at all with any of those reps, that's 485 for 11 reps, very strong guy, it's easy to sit back and critique but how many in this thread could do that?
i can and could. i used to do powerlifting style deadlifts and got up to 280 for a couple of reps but my back improved alot when i did 180kg yates style deadlifts, focusing on using my back instead of all lower back+leg drive.
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i can and could. i used to do powerlifting style deadlifts and got up to 280 for a couple of reps but my back improved alot when i did 180kg yates style deadlifts, focusing on using my back instead of all lower back+leg drive.
of course you did. ::)
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no, i believe he means he maxed out at 280 pounds for 2 reps. :o
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no, i believe he means he maxed out at 280 pounds for 2 reps. :o
hahahahaha, every time you turn around on getbig there's another 600 pound deadlifter, 500 pound bencher and 700 pound squatter popping up, man oh man i need to get me some supplements. ::)
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hahahahaha, every time you turn around on getbig there's another 600 pound deadlifter, 500 pound bencher and 700 pound squatter popping up, man oh man i need to get me some supplements. ::)
280kg for 2 reps.
back bigger now tho when im doing yates style deadlifts.
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Very strong and good technique too IMO.
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Very strong and good technique too IMO.
yeah if powerlifting
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yeah if powerlifting
He did say he will be competing in the deadlift as well. Do you think Ronnie's and Johnnie's deads are bad for bodybuilding purposes as well? "Pure" powerlifting is excellent to build size for a natural trainer.
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He did say he will be competing in the deadlift as well. Do you think Ronnie's and Johnnie's deads are bad for bodybuilding purposes as well? "Pure" powerlifting is excellent to build size for a natural trainer.
not for slaveboy, he gets better "results' when he pulls 380 as opposed to 610 for 2. ::)
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not for slaveboy, he gets better "results' when he pulls 380 as opposed to 610 for 2. ::)
sure have. the initial pull is too much legs and ass if doing powerlifting style deadlifts. legs i focus on, on another day.
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ive stopped doing them from the floor, i pick them the bar up off the squat safety-bars. i think its safer for the back not to start from a low position with big weight.
it is called the deadlift for a reason, genius. pick a dead weight from the fcvking floor. there's nothing wrong though with doing partials from safety bars, but i am pissed when i am about to do legs and some fgagots are hoggin the squat rack because they have to do the fcvking dead lift from the hooks (or even better, biceps curls).
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This thread shows why "bodybuilders" shouldnt try to explain things to each other. the efforts far exceeds the gain
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i dont think you understand, when i pick it up, i step back and do full range of motion deadlift, and when finish lean forward to drop the weight on the bars. So that way you will warm up your lower-back with first lowering the weight down and then up from a starting position.
i would like to see you doing it with your max weight, i think it is retarded to step back with a shitload of weight
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I wouldnt' give a care to much of the criticism here bro. That's good dead lifting! I say throw on the extra weight and start doing 500+ instead of dicking around in the mid 4's :D :P.
I pull the same way and it feels great. Since you're so tall, bending down that low must be kinda rough. It is for me. Even if you can't rep it like that, move up in weight and start adding reps on 500+!! ;D nice to see someone here putting up the bigger weight.
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reading half the shit in here is a ridiculous waste of time. No matter if you're doing a stiff leg'd dead or a conventional dead...you're always going to work your back, traps, forearms, and legs...ALWAYS! To what degree depends on the exercise. But you can't deadlift a certain way to target one particular body part. It's impossible. It's THE original compound movement. Even if you're picking them up at the knees off the pins, you're still getting leg drive to get it up and off.
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you have absolutely no muscle to call your own.
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those looked strong man but I think you could do more with getting your ass in the grass it would flatten your back out and use your legs and glutes more which gets you the power ....but if your injury free and your back doesent scream at you for a week after then maybe it works for you
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My traps and forearms are a bit tight but to be honest I dont feel it in my low back really at all. I get sorer from strict hyperextensions. My structure suits the way I do them. Watch Ronnie Coleman The Unbeleivable. He does them exactly the same and he is pretty tall also.
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El Mariachi sounds likw a pussy.
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im surprised you dont have a hernia, it almost looks like a good morning. you need to bend your knees lower, thats the perfect deadlift, this is ego training. good luck
You're wrong.
He would need more leg strength for that.
Right now, he's lifting with near-optimal style.
Focusing on deep squats would probably help his deadlift more than anything.
-Hedge
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My only criticism is the Cradle of Filth t-shirt, some people just have bad taste in music :D
Great strength.
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You're wrong.
He would need more leg strength for that.
Right now, he's lifting with near-optimal style.
Focusing on deep squats would probably help his deadlift more than anything.
-Hedge
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE IS GOLDEN! MY SQUAT AND DEADS HAVE BOTH GONE UP WHEN I STARTED DOING THEM! I STARTED SQUATTING AND MY DEADS CAME UP. I STARTED DOING DEADS MORE OFTEN AND MY SQUAT NUMBERS WENT UP! These two single exercises are the kings of compound movements.
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I couldnt agree more except to say that heavy front squats (not in smith machine) have helped me a lot as your body gets in a great upright groove that helps back squats a lot.
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I couldnt agree more except to say that heavy front squats (not in smith machine) have helped me a lot as your body gets in a great upright groove that helps back squats a lot.
What's your deadlift PB?
-Hedge
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Since the last installment, I have lost 15kg of fat so I am 100kg now. This is 220kg x 11. 23 weeks out from competition, both deadlifting and bodybuilding. Following Dave Palumbo diet.
Nice lift. No straps. Impressive.