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Title: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Knives on May 20, 2007, 09:46:20 AM
What is your guys' opinions on bulking up?  By bulking up, I'm referring to doing minimal or no cardio, and eating a ton of food, as to gain muscle mass, but also fat.  Of course, you then have to eventually burn the fat off.  However, some people say you can be more conservative with your diet, do cardio, and still gain muscle while remaining lean.  What is the most effective way to gain muscle?

Opinions on both natural and hormonized bodybuilders welcome.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Rearden Metal on May 20, 2007, 09:49:41 AM
Something in the middle. The leaner you can remain, the better your body will be at putting on muscle. Conversely, you won't gain without having adequate nutritional needs met.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Moen on May 20, 2007, 09:51:08 AM
A definite nay

You can not hasten the growth process by eating a lote MORE than you need

Ofcourse you have to eat ENOUGH

The only way to hasten the process is ...
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on May 20, 2007, 09:53:29 AM
Agree with whats already been said, there is no need to scoff everything for the sake of it, also leads to lots of poor quality food being eaten if you lose all discipline.


ta ta
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 09:57:02 AM
one idea would be to diet down before you start.  get 10% lean.  abs and veins.  And yes, your back and shoulders will shrink and you'll feel like crap.  Then you bulk back up and it's more of a quality bulk.  or so i've heard.  i'm still in the small shoulders/back and feeling small phase now.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 20, 2007, 10:14:38 AM
Probably depends a lot on your age.  If you're young, make your gains (on quality food).  Over 30, be more careful.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Knives on May 20, 2007, 10:43:09 AM
Good question man.

Hard to say though.  I wonder if sometimes overeating leads to the body adjusting by just not absorbing things as easily b/c it is trying to cope with the amount of food being put through.   When you are on a diet it seems as if every last bit of food is getting processed. 

There may be a better strategy of periodic days of dieting to get the body absorbing maximum amounts of food, and then days of eating much more than what is required while the body is still tricked into absorbing things. 

Just a thought, not sure how well it would actually work, but I have heard similar ideas in the past.

yeah, i think gh15 has said that when gaining, it's not a bad idea to keep carbs at medium/low levels for 4 days, then do a high carb day.

it's probably also a good idea to eat multiple times throughout the day, so that food is better absorbed, but of course that's bodybuilding 101
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Mars on May 20, 2007, 10:56:56 AM
Good question. i wished there would be more research material on this topic.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: marcus on May 20, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
Check out this article.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Knives on May 20, 2007, 11:37:41 AM
Check out this article.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956

thanks man, great article, i think he really hits the nail on the head
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: gordiano on May 20, 2007, 12:23:04 PM
Something in the middle. The leaner you can remain, the better your body will be at putting on muscle. Conversely, you won't gain without having adequate nutritional needs met.

Good "advices".
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 20, 2007, 12:32:58 PM
Only idiots overeat.

Undereat every day. 
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Knives on May 20, 2007, 12:59:46 PM
Only idiots overeat.

Undereat every day. 

how do you gain muscle if you undereat?
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: boonstack on May 20, 2007, 01:06:59 PM
Only idiots overeat.

Undereat every day. 

try again.... but this time, make sense
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 20, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
bulking more than 15-20 pounds is a waste of time, money, and food

anything after the 20 pound mark will be just fat and water

E
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: pumpster on May 20, 2007, 01:47:37 PM


anything after the 20 pound mark will be just fat and water

E

Possibly, but without defining the time frame that's not necessarily true.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 20, 2007, 02:38:08 PM
Possibly, but without defining the time frame that's not necessarily true.

if you're gaining a pound every 1-2 weeks

E
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Bluto on May 20, 2007, 02:41:28 PM
im surprised you're so negative against bulking  ???

it has worked wonders for people like the squadfather who is intimidating people wherever he goes
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: canadaphiliac on May 20, 2007, 04:43:20 PM
Only idiots overeat.

Undereat every day. 
Only idiots don't want to look like they crawled out of Auschwitz.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: dr.chimps on May 20, 2007, 04:49:19 PM
Only idiots overeat.

Undereat every day. 
Yay. Negative caloric balance: the number one way to build muscle.  ::)

/good to see ya back
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
What is your guys' opinions on bulking up?  By bulking up, I'm referring to doing minimal or no cardio, and eating a ton of food, as to gain muscle mass, but also fat.  Of course, you then have to eventually burn the fat off.  However, some people say you can be more conservative with your diet, do cardio, and still gain muscle while remaining lean.  What is the most effective way to gain muscle?

Opinions on both natural and hormonized bodybuilders welcome.
should have come to the seminar ;)
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: Knives on May 20, 2007, 06:35:23 PM
should have come to the seminar ;)

i would if i had a means of getting there.  what did they say?
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: bigmc on May 21, 2007, 01:50:14 AM
people who bulk tend to keep on bulking and live in self denial about how much fat they carry

how many guys do you see in the gym that are permanently off season

remember after you bulk you got to drop the fat and that can be a bitch
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: 210 and growing on May 21, 2007, 03:52:10 AM
Its only hard to drop the fat if you keep eating like you were eating. I did my biggest bulk this year and got up to around 238, and did have a gut on me, but have been dieting around 2 months and the gut has totally gone, and i havent even done much cardio. Its all in the diet - its just that many people cannot stick to it and have no willpower when it comes to fatty foods, cakes etc.
Title: Re: bulking up, yea or nay?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on May 21, 2007, 03:57:34 AM
a controlled bulk!

there is no reason to become obese but for best growth, adding a bit of fat is ok.