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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stavios on May 28, 2007, 07:20:28 PM
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Looks like he refused the pro card at the TU last year cause he is entering the Junior Nats this year.
he won the TU at 215 and people say he is 240-245 now very ripped
People say he had no clue how to eat and was eating protein bars backstage at the TU
they made him pass the test 3 times cause they didn't believe he was natural
what do you bitches think ?
Personally, I think he was natural. Some motherfuckers have great genetics ( mostly black dudes ), a guy at my gym looks like a mini version of this dude and he trains like a pussy and eat like shit too
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natural....right ::)
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He looks very smart. I think he'll go to work for NASA, and pass on an IFBB career.
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Maybe he was natural at 215, but not anymore if he is 245 ripped.
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natural....right ::)
He's black, so it's possible.
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years of breeding
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black people have good genetic
there is some exeptions like Vince Goodrum tho
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He's black, so it's possible.
do you really believe that? ;D
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black people have good genetic
there is some exeptions like Vince Goodrum tho
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HOLY SHIT! You don't see that shit very often. Genetic freak and not natural, but I am no way taking away from how freaky he is.
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;D
what is even more funny is goodrum still has better genetics than billy gunz ;D
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Here's another.
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Back shot.
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Seems to be a big difference in size between the right and left leg. Needs to work on his posing too.
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Back shot.
he actually has alright calf's for a black dude.
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He has a physical deformity in one leg is what was told to me by a guy who did the Team U with him.
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He has a physical deformity in one leg is what was told to me by a guy who did the Team U with him.
I figured that, but didn't want to insult the guy. What a shame since he pretty much has a complete physique.
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Seems to be a big difference in size between the right and left leg. Needs to work on his posing too.
he's gonna be Mr. Olympia then.
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You know this guy has good genetics with calves like that.
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he's gonna be Mr. Olympia then.
indeed
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I hear ya` Jim,but the guy still wins contests.
Another really good lighter bodybuilder,George Gibson has the same problem with one of his legs....nice guy and wins or places high at every show he enters.
I guess the rest of his physique is just too damned impressive.
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Tell me again what's impressive about this dude in terms of bodybuilding?
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I figured that, but didn't want to insult the guy. What a shame since he pretty much has a complete physique.
he looks great and we wish him the best
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they made him pass the test 3 times cause they didn't believe he was natural
what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
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what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
NO, grapefruit. :D
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what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
depends how he looked back then.
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what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
jealouse are we ;D
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Theres a brothaman in my gym that i thought was acompetitor.
We got to talking and he told me hes never been to bb show.......doesnt know shit about steroids and eats crap all day.
This guy is about my size but lean.............Im telling you guys, theres no limits for some guys....mostly from ignorance.
Last week i talked to a guy at the gym and hes on 1500mg a week of different stuff.....maybe a 16" arm......weird.
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Tell me again what's impressive about this dude in terms of bodybuilding?
The guy basically doesn't know how to diet, eats shit, and is a natural and looks amazing.
I say its possible...wasn't Sergio like that too? He ate whatever he wanted and still was a beast
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what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
yes.
Many years of great training natural...tehn on the juice...bam! top 3 in a pro contest!
waht's so hard to believe about that?
Why don't we all say these liberating words togteher......
"No one with a good physique can be drug free!"
Feel better?
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yes.
Many years of great training natural...tehn on the juice...bam! top 3 in a pro contest!
waht's so hard to believe about that?
Why don't we all say these liberating words togteher......
"No one with a good physique can be drug free!"
Feel better?
Good lord. Im surrounded by idiots.
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it's called sarcasm. :)
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it's called sarcasm. :)
Ok. carryon.. ;D
Im beginning to wonder if alot of nattys look like shit because they think that their limits have been reached or something?????
Whoever says you cant develop a muscular 20" arms wants to keep you small so that they are elite.
Anyone who could train with me,day in and day out would look like a freak within 2 yrs...no doubt.
The first thing i would teach them is throw out all the limited thinking...anythings possible, and if you fall a little short, then youll be miles ahead of most who never pushed it...
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In that first relaxed shot he looks nuts 8).
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yes.
Many years of great training natural...tehn on the juice...bam! top 3 in a pro contest!
waht's so hard to believe about that?
Why don't we all say these liberating words togteher......
"No one with a good physique can be drug free!"
Feel better?
You may be right. Kia won all of the top WNBF titles and they test their athletes for 7 years drug free. Piss and poly. 1999 could be natural, 2004 don't think so.
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He's black, so it's possible.
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I hear ya` Jim,but the guy still wins contests.
Another really good lighter bodybuilder,George Gibson has the same problem with one of his legs....nice guy and wins or places high at every show he enters.
I guess the rest of his physique is just too damned impressive.
No doubt the guy is still awesome. Just curious to know what happened. This guy will still do very well as a pro one day. Hopefully someone will work with him on his posing.
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I interviewed Lockett at the Arnold this year. He was incredibly lean and muscular for a guy in the off-season. He is a religious guy and swears up and down he's natural. On one hand, he's got the symptomatic jaw, but on the other, if his test/gh levels are abnormally high, he could have those effects as well. I'll just post the video and let you guys decide.
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I hate to really chime in on this cause I personally don't have a problem with what people do with their own bodies. With that being said as far as I'm concerned this guy is "ON", but so what. That does not take away from his freaky conditioning. Now as far as the Team U it's not natural. That's all I will say cause I keep my word when I give it.
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Back shot.
he may be a genetic freak, but he has a weak back. And backs can make or break u in this sport.
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Ok. carryon.. ;D
Im beginning to wonder if alot of nattys look like shit because they think that their limits have been reached or something?????
Whoever says you cant develop a muscular 20" arms wants to keep you small so that they are elite.
Anyone who could train with me,day in and day out would look like a freak within 2 yrs...no doubt.
The first thing i would teach them is throw out all the limited thinking...anythings possible, and if you fall a little short, then youll be miles ahead of most who never pushed it...
You are absolutely right - people always seem to limit themselves and create a barrier in their head. How many times have you heard "oh you can not get that ripped naturally", or "there is no way that guy is natural - you can not get that big without the gear".
With that sort of mentality of course you will never get as big or as lean as you possibly can, and you begin to settle for mediocre results and convince yourself that there is nothing more you can do naturally to achieve a better body. However I bet they could train just a little more harder, or eat just that little bit better, or be just that much more consistant if they really take a closer look at themselves.
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all drugs
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The guy basically doesn't know how to diet, eats shit, and is a natural and looks amazing.
I say its possible...wasn't Sergio like that too? He ate whatever he wanted and still was a beast
If he can get in shape for a bodybuilding competition, then he knows how to diet. It doesn't matter how anyone else does such for his contest prep.
The same applied to Sergio Oliva. He knew what worked for his body and dieted and trained accordingly. Plus, given the manual labor jobs he was known for working, I'm sure he burned more than his fair share of calories, anyway.
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dude's got a wicked set of calves on him for a brotha
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I know another really religious guy...his name rhymes with "Fawn Gay"...he says he's natural too.
HAHAHA!! good one!!
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My interview with Michael Locket appears in the June 2007 issue of Ironman Magazine. Yes he is very religious, claims up and down to be natural and won the team Universe after training only 15 months. He was a boxer previously. Eats little and loves candy. A true genetic freak.
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he may be a genetic freak, but he has a weak back. And backs can make or break u in this sport.
LOL. Aren't we the pious hypocrite. Are you saying he should get his pro card in Dubai, India?
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hes using steroid ofcourse he aint naturel and yes he looks good only thing he needs to bring his leg
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You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to.
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Dante please post something along these lines every week if you will
I tend to slip off to the pussypumping side to easily
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Monster truth Dogg crapp..... 8) Take 10 guys and have train the same, eat the same and some will fly ahead while others will start blaming for there physique.
If anyone reading this doesnt think he can put on a measly 1/8th " on his arms this week....then he doesnt want it bad enough.
1/8 can add up fast to an inch and so on......just lift big train big and rest big.
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Oh come on Dante! All that typing? You're fighting alosing battle here!
We all know that...but this is what we do here on Getbig. Talk shit. All the time.
All I know is this...I was with one of my guys yesterday who will be in the 220-224lbs range at this years JRnats. I told him this guy was entering it and his jaw dropped and was all down and out in Beverly Hills.
He said the same thing Dante said here about how his IS 100% clean and nobody ever believes anyone with a stellar physique claiming drug free status out of jealousy and ignorance not to mention the fact that negroes are genetically superior when it comes to this game and most physical activities.
I said this before a plethora of time. I see barfly's standing outside the neighborhood taverns in the summer...beer guts and flabby piles of boar shit. White dudes.
I drive through the ghetto? I see bruthaz drinking their 40's standing outside the liquor sto'...3 out of 4 of them look 2 weeks out of any state level show. Striations, seperation, vascularity and overly muscular.
True Story.
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I'll agree with alot of what DC says, the problem I have with BB is whenever a guy achieves anything they are labeled as being on roids, like it's compeletly unheard of for anyone to gain any amount of muscle naturally. I started a thread about how far can a natural go just to see what guy on here would say and it's funny cause it seems the mentality is that if you don't do roids you're never gonna be big. It's a genetic thing that determines alot, there's guys who I've met who were monsters and never, ever worked out and guys I've met who were doing cycles and had no muscle to speak of.
BTW here's a shot of the guy's calves that this thread was originally about, that's a genetic advantage over 90% of the black guys I've seen in my BB experiences, not everyone but alot of em:
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Hard work, my freinds...hard work can only help you.
The guys do the drugs, because they wanted it Yesterday......Im telling you the journey is better than the destination, kids.
Enjoy the workout, make friends, enjoy the journey, and expect small results every week. Wether its a little definition or 1/8 on your arms.
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He said the same thing Dante said here about how his IS 100% clean and nobody ever believes anyone with a stellar physique claiming drug free status out of jealousy and ignorance not to mention the fact that negroes are genetically superior when it comes to this game and most physical activities.
I said this before a plethora of time. I see barfly's standing outside the neighborhood taverns in the summer...beer guts and flabby piles of boar shit. White dudes.
I drive through the ghetto? I see bruthaz drinking their 40's standing outside the liquor sto'...3 out of 4 of them look 2 weeks out of any state level show. Striations, seperation, vascularity and overly muscular.
True Story.
So true. Bodybuilding is almost entirely genetics, and if you aren't african-american, you probably don't have them. Go to any gym, and I can guarantee you that nearly all of the guys who are big and ripped are black dudes. If you happen to see someone of a different ethnic persuasion who looks big and ripped, look for signs of roid use :). Any big, ripped non-African American dude is on roids until proven otherwise.
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You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to.
if the kid is not on juice im guessing he is on a radical diet of sorts
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I tend to slip off to the pussypumping side to easily
You'd rather be an assspumper 'moen' ?
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He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day.
They don't have the same genetics, only monozygotic twins have that. So it's just an assumption that only excercise makes the difference between the cousins.
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They don't have the same genetics, only monozygotic twins have that. So it's just an assumption that only excercise makes the difference between the cousins.
Dont get technical...you understand the overview dont you??
Brad applies himself in training diet and areas required for maximun genetic ability.
his relative doesnt.
It is important...
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my latest videos....its not about being a genetic freak, well it takes a certain type of genetics everymorning with that hunger for life, so yes in a way its genetic. but a diet tailored from years of experience will help you progress. heres my latest vids
challenge to layne staley
muscle gayning
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Looks like he refused the pro card at the TU last year cause he is entering the Junior Nats this year.
he won the TU at 215 and people say he is 240-245 now very ripped
People say he had no clue how to eat and was eating protein bars backstage at the TU
they made him pass the test 3 times cause they didn't believe he was natural
what do you bitches think ?
Personally, I think he was natural. Some motherfuckers have great genetics ( mostly black dudes ), a guy at my gym looks like a mini version of this dude and he trains like a pussy and eat like shit too
Is that a TEN PACK????
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I know another really religious guy...his name rhymes with "Fawn Gay"...he says he's natural too.
bwaahahaahaa, that's a good one...!!
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They don't have the same genetics, only monozygotic twins have that. So it's just an assumption that only excercise makes the difference between the cousins.
Not even monozygotics...they have different mtDNA ;)
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what kind of test? urine tests take days to process. and if they actually test people at TU, why has no one ever been DQed for failing the drug test?
Kai Greene won the TU in 1999 and again in 2004. You want me to believe that his current physique is from only 2.5 years of drug use?
No, not you, but the organization probably wants people of lesser intelligence than you to believe that. ;D
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injection site scars in the left glute....100% natural....must be a birthmark or something then?
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You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to.
Dante, don't bother typing all of this for the losers here ;D
I totally agree with you tho
I stopped dreaming about being a pro (or even top national bber !) long ago and I am only 19 ;D
you have the genetic or you don't.
for those like me who don't, you can still compete and improve your physique with a lot of effort and hardwork ( just don'T be pissed when someone is your size with only a year of training tho :))
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my latest videos....its not about being a genetic freak, well it takes a certain type of genetics everymorning with that hunger for life, so yes in a way its genetic. but a diet tailored from years of experience will help you progress. heres my latest vids
challenge to layne staley
muscle gayning
god you are retarded.
no wonder you and adam anus abeles get along
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I am very impressed by both Miceal Lockett and Brad Castleberry. Really shows what true hard work can do for a physique to keep for life.
BTW here's a shot of the guy's calves that this thread was originally about, that's a genetic advantage over 90% of the black guys I've seen in my BB experiences, not everyone but alot of em:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=151426.0;attach=169308;image)
You are wacked dude. Isn't that Jay Cutler and Flex Lewis?
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Dante is probably one of the best motivational speakers in bodybuilding. A common theme in the many many posts of his that I've read is that you have to build a solid, devoted work ethic. Work ethic and science will give you better results (and more self respect) than any needle. The guy is old school.
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Dante, don't bother typing all of this for the losers here ;D
I totally agree with you tho
I stopped dreaming about being a pro (or even top national bber !) long ago and I am only 19 ;D
you have the genetic or you don't.
for those like me who don't, you can still compete and improve your physique with a lot of effort and hardwork ( just don'T be pissed when someone is your size with only a year of training tho :))
your being a little hard on yourself Stavios.....