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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Parker on May 30, 2007, 02:51:42 PM
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Just curious how good (or bad) would MD or Flex be if they were run by former or active pro bodybuilders. I'm talking about ones that could write something intelligent or had Lit. backgrounds. I could see Shawn being an Editor in Chief for Flex Mag and Mike Francois or Nasser writing articles on training, with other former pros, as well as say Rich Jones or Jeff "Box" Long contributing.
MD could have Arnold as Editor in Chief or Franco. With Lee Priest as a writer (no Caps lock)...
At leat have people who are passionate about bodybuilding and not people who are trying to exploit people that have sixpacks (which the editorsand writers never have)
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Just curious how good (or bad) would MD or Flex be if they were run by former or active pro bodybuilders.
running multi-million dollar businesses require people trained to run multi-million dollar businesses. you need to work your way to the top, not jump from the top of one field to the top of a completely unrelated field. and publishing a magazine is completely different than competing on a stage.
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running multi-million dollar businesses require people trained to run multi-million dollar businesses. you need to work your way to the top, not jump from the top of one field to the top of a completely unrelated field. and publishing a magazine is completely different than competing on a stage.
Bingo.
Former bodybuilders in posts that should be occupied by MBA's is a sure way to fucck up a business.
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former or active pro bodybuilders... I'm talking about ones that could write something intelligent or had Lit. backgrounds.
Excuse me...
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nO, SERIOUSLY,
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!!!!!!!
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running multi-million dollar businesses require people trained to run multi-million dollar businesses. you need to work your way to the top, not jump from the top of one field to the top of a completely unrelated field. and publishing a magazine is completely different than competing on a stage.
I hear ya, but you hear the same thing from BBers, "No respect for us"
"We are exploited"
and same from fans about the Mags
Yet, if bbers could control the medium which they claim has a hand in their exploitation...it would be beneficial for the fans and the bbers
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prolly not relative to you OS folk but take a look at Hardcore Aussie Muscle.
www.hardcoreaussiemuscle .com.au
run by BBers, written by BBers, for BBers.
will it be a multi million dollar success?
nope
just pays the bills, and sits nicely in it's niche.
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its kind of like a athiest writting a bible,i could care less
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I hear ya, but you hear the same thing from BBers, "No respect for us"
"We are exploited"
and same from fans about the Mags
Yet, if bbers could control the medium which they claim has a hand in their exploitation...it would be beneficial for the fans and the bbers
The mags won't even be around in ten years. The internet has killed them... they're just taking a while to die and are too stupid to realize they're mortally wounded.
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KAGEDMUSCLE.COM ;)
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run by BBers, written by BBers, for BBers.
will it be a multi million dollar success?
nope
youre not helping Parkers cause with this post
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running multi-million dollar businesses require people trained to run multi-million dollar businesses. you need to work your way to the top, not jump from the top of one field to the top of a completely unrelated field. and publishing a magazine is completely different than competing on a stage.
Give this man the prize!!
It is so insulting when people have this sense of entitlement over stuff they did not earn. How dare Victor Martinez have the audacity to state that bodybuilding.com should give more money to the bodybuilders because of how successful they are. How much money you earn in life is not a function of how hard you work but what the value of the work you generate is. Victor Martinez has been paid for his efforts in one form or another (endorsement contracts, paid photoshoots, prize money, etc), and he consented to the terms of all of his work. Nobody forced Victor on stage with a cattle prod and if after the fact he decides that he didn't feel the terms of his contracts were fair, he is perfectly free to cease participation in all future contract opportunities.
Bodybuilders can continue to do what they are good at: eating chicken, lifting weights, and pumping their bodies full of drugs. When they actually learn how businesses work they can start to intelligently discuss the topic.
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The mags won't even be around in ten years. The internet has killed them... they're just taking a while to die and are too stupid to realize they're mortally wounded.
Oddly, the only one who sees this is that felon-hiring metrosexual Blechman, hence the attempts to jump to internet and radio. The old guard over at Weider are just covering their ears, going "lalalalalalalalalalalala la", and thinking happy thoughts as they plunge towards the cliff.
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im thinking of printing a weekly mag of quotes from getbig on glossy paper (no pictures, no adds)
holla if you think this is a great idea
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im thinking of printing a weekly mag of quotes from getbig on glossy paper (no pictures, no adds)
holla if you think this is a great idea
As long as you exclude any Bluto quotes, sure!
How do you plan on profiting from this venture?
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As long as you exclude any Bluto quotes, sure!
How do you plan on profiting from this venture?
by having 50% of the pages consist of gay personals
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by having 50% of the pages consist of gay personals
So just the "V" Board?
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by having 50% of the pages consist of gay personals
I think that might have been MD's plan at one point too.
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So just the "V" Board?
pretty much ;D
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goatboy: is your wife the same nationality as King?
Yes/No?
;D
Oddly, the only one who sees this is that felon-hiring metrosexual Blechman, hence the attempts to jump to internet and radio. The old guard over at Weider are just covering their ears, going "lalalalalalalalalalalala la", and thinking happy thoughts as they plunge towards the cliff.
Absolutely correct!! I first noticed this when I observed John Romano promoting the new website and forum at the Arnold to people who he talked briefly too. MD has read the writing on the wall! In 10 years, the most powerful entities in bodybuilding will be the biggest and best websites, which could include getbig if Ron decided to go that route. Getbig remains very influential but is unlikely to ever become commercial because Ron has interests elsewhere, and all the power to him for feeling that way.
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Jeff Everson's Planet Muscle is the only mag owned and run by someone who really knows the industry, nutrition and fitness. Jeff is a very smart guy.
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Give this man the prize!!
It is so insulting when people have this sense of entitlement over stuff they did not earn. How dare Victor Martinez have the audacity to state that bodybuilding.com should give more money to the bodybuilders because of how successful they are. How much money you earn in life is not a function of how hard you work but what the value of the work you generate is. Victor Martinez has been paid for his efforts in one form or another (endorsement contracts, paid photoshoots, prize money, etc), and he consented to the terms of all of his work. Nobody forced Victor on stage with a cattle prod and if after the fact he decides that he didn't feel the terms of his contracts were fair, he is perfectly free to cease participation in all future contract opportunities.
Bodybuilders can continue to do what they are good at: eating chicken, lifting weights, and pumping their bodies full of drugs. When they actually learn how businesses work they can start to intelligently discuss the topic.
Matt, did he really say that? When/where?
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Matt, did he really say that? When/where?
I learned it from this thread by "In it 2 win it":
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=94193.0
Also, I agree with garraeth. Even though all of the information is available online, I still prefer to have magazines available to read so I will continue to buy them.
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Jeff Everson's Planet Muscle is the only mag owned and run by someone who really knows the industry, nutrition and fitness. Jeff is a very smart guy.
Quite correct Keith. It's a great mag.
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Other than on the treadmill or the crapper, print rags are a relic of the past. And if you're like me and bring your laptop to the can, then mags are strictly for the treadmill. Unless you jerk off a lot to the photos, in which case print mags are a solid long-term investment.
Online is where it's at, particularly since our TVs of the not-too-distant future will have internet capability built-in. The playing field is leveled by the content. Content is always king.
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Nahh, they'll still be around. Same as brick and mortar was supposed to be killed by amazon.com. People like tangibles. The internet will just become an alternative.
Not a good analogy. Brick and mortar retailing will always be around for two reasons: for some products, you can only tell so much from a photo... you want to look at it and hold it in yur hands in person before buying, and sometimes you want to buy something and take it home now, not 3 days from now via UPS. With mags vs the internet, neither of these issues is valid. The product is information, and it's the same online or in a mag... and the time factor works the other way compared to a physical product, with the advantage going to the internet in this case.
The internet will kill print periodicals, and it will happen sooner than later.
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Not a good analogy. Brick and mortar retailing will always be around for two reasons: for some products, you can only tell so much from a photo... you want to look at it and hold it in yur hands in person before buying, and sometimes you want to buy something and take it home now, not 3 days from now via UPS. With mags vs the internet, neither of these issues is valid. The product is information, and it's the same online or in a mag... and the time factor works the other way compared to a physical product, with the advantage going to the internet in this case.
The internet will kill print periodicals, and it will happen sooner than later.
Already happened.
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Already happened.
yeah now they are trying to invade radio
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yeah now they are trying to invade radio
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tell me more Bench.. whaddaya mean?
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tell me more Bench.. whaddaya mean?
i dont know,i am trying to make 1600 post and am just typing random bullshit
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my bad 1700
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i dont know,i am trying to make 1600 post and am just typing random bullshit
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Ok... ;D
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Ok... ;D
thanx for understanding ;D
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One time they said that the television will kill the radio.
Then they said that the video tape machine will kill the movie industry.
Then they said that the CD and tape machines will kill the music industry.
Then they said that the internet sites will kill the retail stores.
People told me that multi channels and video games will kill the books that people read.
None of this happened.
Things adapt. Magazines have a unique place, and I still subscribe to a number of magazines, both bodybuilding and non-bodybuilding related. Sometimes you just want to read it on your own level, your own time, your own place.
While magazines cannot give you up to the date and current info, they can give you a retrospect, quality pics, and a storyline that is cool to read, and which I look forward to each month.
Now, as for bodybuilders running the magazines, if they can, it is great. But like any business, you don't need to be a member of that sport to run a successful magazine, whether it be football, basketball, or anything. But you do need to be knowledgable and understand whatever you are doing.
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Good points Ron, but whether or not magazines will be dead completely there will still be huge economic implications due to the advent of the internet.
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www.zinio.com
They're a publisher of digital magazines. Alot of major magazines: BusinessWeek, Men's Health, MD, Playboy, etc are all available for digital download and subscriptions.
This is the future. Look at how newspaper subscriptions are collapsing. I read the other day that the Wall Street Journal has almost 1 million paid subscribers to their online website.
TRF
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One time they said that the television will kill the radio.
Then they said that the video tape machine will kill the movie industry.
Then they said that the CD and tape machines will kill the music industry.
Then they said that the internet sites will kill the retail stores.
People told me that multi channels and video games will kill the books that people read.
None of this happened.
Things adapt. Magazines have a unique place, and I still subscribe to a number of magazines, both bodybuilding and non-bodybuilding related. Sometimes you just want to read it on your own level, your own time, your own place.
While magazines cannot give you up to the date and current info, they can give you a retrospect, quality pics, and a storyline that is cool to read, and which I look forward to each month.
Now, as for bodybuilders running the magazines, if they can, it is great. But like any business, you don't need to be a member of that sport to run a successful magazine, whether it be football, basketball, or anything. But you do need to be knowledgable and understand whatever you are doing.
Well said mate.
There is definitely a place for magazines. Computers are inconvenient. With the exception of laptops, you can't just pick them up & take them anywhere. And even laptops are a pain. They run low on battery, you can't keep them out of your sight in case some bastard pinches them, you have to be careful not to drop them or spill shit on them.
Magazines are cool. You can fold 'em up & take 'em anywhere. If you misplace it, spill something on it or whatever, you just buy a new one.
They are cheap, convenient & disposable. They won't die.
The Internet is obviously the way to go for up-to-date info, but you can't stick a computer on your fridge door or gym wall for motivation.
Rip a page out of a magazine, pin it on you fridge for motivation. Awesome!
Everything has it's place. Magazines have theirs.
As for BBers writing their own magazine, well, as Monsta said, Australia has it's very own magazine that is run by Aussie BBers, for Aussie BBers.
I am the proud publisher/editor. Our first issue was released on 1st June and the response is far & above anything that I had expected.
We have no qualified people involved with the magazine, just local BBers. Everyone tells me it's the best magazine that they have ever seen. BBers know what BBers want. No bullshit 'How to grow big arms in 10 workouts' kinda crap. Contest reports & profiles are the mainstay of our magazine. We just want to see photos of the comps & reports on how they went. A couple of profiles on local champions & we are happy.
It's easily the best looking & most informative Aussie magazine on the market.
You guys should do something similar. There is too much crap in BBing magazines these days.
Cheers.
Craig.
www.hardcoreaussiemuscle .com.au
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You just have to note the way that 99.99 per cent of bodybuilders struggle to put together a meaningful sentence on the Internet (in forums like this) to get a quick realisation on the futility of putting them in charge of a (relatively) successful magazine like FLEX. Yes, FLEX is a pile of shite, but it's a profitable one. And you have to applaud them for taking the piss - does any other magazine get away with printing basically the same thing each and every month?