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next stop beantown and ready to reclaim 1st place,bosox do have a good balanced club this year i must admit.
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next stop beantown and ready to reclaim 1st place,bosox do have a good balanced club this year i must admit.
From 13.5 to 7.5 out in a week and a half.
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From a Sox fan perspective, the Yankees are a scary club. With all thier talent they should be right there come Sept.
I'm really glad we had the 14 game pad, we'll need every game of it by the end of the season.
Go Sox.
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From a Sox fan perspective, the Yankees are a scary club. With all thier talent they should be right there come Sept.
I'm really glad we had the 14 game pad, we'll need every game of it by the end of the season.
Go Sox.
should be interesting,when lester is full steam it's a good staff,beckett,lester.papelbon are tough,as a yankee fan i love facing that scumbag schilling,dice k is soft against yanks can't pitch from the stretch,we own wakefield.it's up to the bullpens,like i said earlier.sox have good balanced lineup almost carbon copy of yanks some power,enough speed,defense,yanks bench is a little thin than past years.
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Is A-rod still screwing the stripper?
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should be interesting,when lester is full steam it's a good staff,beckett,lester.papelbon are tough,as a yankee fan i love facing that scumbag schilling,dice k is soft against yanks can't pitch from the stretch,we own wakefield.it's up to the bullpens,like i said earlier.sox have good balanced lineup almost carbon copy of yanks some power,enough speed,defense,yanks bench is a little thin than past years.
Agreed on most parts. Dice K gets a pass until next year in my book. Next year he has to show up huge IMO.
The unknown factor is Clippard/Hughes, we'll see how they fare in the stretch.
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anyone that thinks the yanks make it to the post season are insane.
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anyone that thinks the yanks make it to the post season are insane.
anyone that counts them out given the history is mentally impaired.
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anyone that thinks the yanks make it to the post season are insane.
Care to back this up with any real reasons?
I'll start with reasons why they will.. They will make the playoffs because the will add either Phil Hughes or another arm via trade to their rotation. This will give them one of the best staffs in baseball 1-5. They already have the best lineup, and many of them are starting to return to their normal levels. They still have Rivera as well. They have also had the hardest schedule in baseball to this point (per ESPN's rating scale), so the dog days of summer will be filled with weaker teams that they should feast on. They have 17 games left with TB and Baltimore, and six with KC. They've had their slump coincide with devastating injuries to their pitching staff, yet are only 3.5 out of the WC in the middle of June.
The teams they need to overcome at this point are Cleveland, Detroit, and Boston. Detroit's staff is very good, but their lineup is ok, and their closer plain sucks. Cleveland's starting pitching is supect, and their lineup is ok as well. Both teams are lucky to play the Royals 19 times, but, overall the central is a much tougher division. The White Sox will get better, which will only make it harder.
Catching Boston could prove to be very hard, but keep in mind that Beckett will regress as the season goes on, as will Lowell and Youklis. I doubt you will see any Sox starter with an ERA under four at years end, which means they will not keep up their current pace. I think Crisp and Lugo are just average players and will not improve much, although Manny and Drew should get better. The bullpen should regress as well - their statisical history shows them to be average at BEST, but they have outperformed their norms early, which could indicate a big correction coming. If the sox are able to add another frontline starter, though, it should be enough to compensate for their weakness and make them extrememly dangerous, especially in a short series.
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Care to back this up with any real reasons?
I'll start with reasons why they will.. They will make the playoffs because the will add either Phil Hughes or another arm via trade to their rotation. This will give them one of the best staffs in baseball 1-5. They already have the best lineup, and many of them are starting to return to their normal levels. They still have Rivera as well. They have also had the hardest schedule in baseball to this point (per ESPN's rating scale), so the dog days of summer will be filled with weaker teams that they should feast on. They have 17 games left with TB and Baltimore, and six with KC. They've had their slump coincide with devastating injuries to their pitching staff, yet are only 3.5 out of the WC in the middle of June.
The teams they need to overcome at this point are Cleveland, Detroit, and Boston. Detroit's staff is very good, but their lineup is ok, and their closer plain sucks. Cleveland's starting pitching is supect, and their lineup is ok as well. Both teams are lucky to play the Royals 19 times, but, overall the central is a much tougher division. The White Sox will get better, which will only make it harder.
Catching Boston could prove to be very hard, but keep in mind that Beckett will regress as the season goes on, as will Lowell and Youklis. I doubt you will see any Sox starter with an ERA under four at years end, which means they will not keep up their current pace. I think Crisp and Lugo are just average players and will not improve much, although Manny and Drew should get better. The bullpen should regress as well - their statisical history shows them to be average at BEST, but they have outperformed their norms early, which could indicate a big correction coming. If the sox are able to add another frontline starter, though, it should be enough to compensate for their weakness and make them extrememly dangerous, especially in a short series.
i'd love to agree on all counts but being realistic,beckett,youklis,lowell are having careers years,given lowell is a free agent so his numbers are good for a reason,boston will not fall like last year.the yanks will go to the wire,hopefully clemens is a factor,and a rod is off the charts...
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i'd love to agree on all counts but being realistic,beckett,youklis,lowell are having careers years,given lowell is a free agent so his numbers are good for a reason,boston will not fall like last year.the yanks will go to the wire,hopefully clemens is a factor,and a rod is off the charts...
I agree that it will be tough, but it's hard to say that those guys are having career years while it's mid June. Lowell had a poor split last year, fading badly in the second half.
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next stop beantown and ready to reclaim 1st place,bosox do have a good balanced club this year i must admit.
you aren't playing triple a teams anymore
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you aren't playing triple a teams anymore
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Yanks have had the hardest schedule to date and have recently taken series from the sox and the mets.
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No one is heckling A-Rod now! ::)
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I agree that it will be tough, but it's hard to say that those guys are having career years while it's mid June. Lowell had a poor split last year, fading badly in the second half.
Becket is 10 - 1 with a era of 3.14. Last year after 11 starts he was 7-2 with a era of 4.46.
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Yanks have had the hardest schedule to date and have recently taken series from the sox and the mets.
Hard to believe they are still 9 games back.
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No one is heckling A-Rod now! ::)
Arod can be a little bitch, but he would replace "the bust" nicley at short next year :) Great player.
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No one is heckling A-Rod now! ::)
He's still a little bitch
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Becket is 10 - 1 with a era of 3.14. Last year after 11 starts he was 7-2 with a era of 4.46.
Wasn't referring to Beckett, just the bats. Beckett appears to be fufilling his potential. He was an off the chart prospect, and most of his issues have been due to injury. Now that he's staying healthy, the results are following.
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From 13.5 to 7.5 out in a week and a half.
Then right back to 10 games out again ;)
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next stop beantown and ready to reclaim 1st place,bosox do have a good balanced club this year i must admit.
Before you come you might wanna make up some of that 10 game lead the sox have again ;)
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Before you come you might wanna make up some of that 10 game lead the sox have again ;)
Winning the division's a nice touch, but the sox are too far ahead to even warrant discussion. It was nice to get it to 7.5, but unrealistic to think the Yankees would win another 11 out of 13 right after they just did so. The only chance the Yanks have at the division is to be down around 6 come the ASB and hover there until August, when the sox go on the road for almost the whole month.
The WC will be the most likely route to the playoffs for the Yankees. As currently constructed, I like their chances in a best of seven vs. boston.
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Before you come you might wanna make up some of that 10 game lead the sox have again ;)
Clemens better come through with a good outing tonight. The Yankees bats are due. Getting swept by the Rockies would suck. It really sucks to have given those 2.5 games back to the Sox.
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Before you come you might wanna make up some of that 10 game lead the sox have again ;)
yeah they got swept by colorado ??? ???,they seem to lose ground quicker than the past,everyone has to fall sometime,bosox collapsed last yr and finished 3rd.they could over take the wildcard,but lets face it,twins,cleveland,detroit are no slouches.
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Fvcken Colorado!
They took 2 outta 3 from the Sox and then sweep the Yanks :'(
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Fvcken Colorado!
They took 2 outta 3 from the Sox and then sweep the Yanks :'(
The Rockies are no chumps. I think we A.L. East fans assumed they were, we were wrong.
BTW, I'm a little miffed that none of you Yankee fans are typical obnoxious a-holes. It's a lot easier hating you heathens when you're obnoxious.
Hell, most of you Yankees fans posting on this board are level headed and cool to debate with, Grape Ape shockingly so.
Red Sox fans and Yankees fans debating rationally with no flaming or bashing, Hell must have frozen over. ;D
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The Rockies are no chumps. I think we A.L. East fans assumed they were, we were wrong.
BTW, I'm a little miffed that none of you Yankee fans are typical obnoxious a-holes. It's a lot easier hating you heathens when you're obnoxious.
Hell, most of you Yankees fans posting on this board are level headed and cool to debate with, Grape Ape shockingly so.
Red Sox fans and Yankees fans debating rationally with no flaming or bashing, Hell must have frozen over. ;D
It's tough to be an a-hole when your team is 10 back :-\
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True but we all know the Yanks are going to make a run. The season hasn't reached the halfway point yet, 10 games in June is a lot different than 10 games in September. There's no way an offense that outstanding won't make a push especially considering the pitching has improved so much.
Unless the Yanks meltdown like the Sox did last year there's no way this isn't a dogfight come September. The Sox have too many holes in the lineup, eventually it's going to catch up.
You can't have Lugo, Coco, Drew and to a lesser extent Manny having bad offensive years and continue to win. Papi and Manny's HR's are WAY down this year. There's no way in hell Mike Lowell should be the leading HR hitter with Papi and Manny in the lineup.
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The Rockies are no chumps. I think we A.L. East fans assumed they were, we were wrong.
BTW, I'm a little miffed that none of you Yankee fans are typical obnoxious a-holes. It's a lot easier hating you heathens when you're obnoxious.
Hell, most of you Yankees fans posting on this board are level headed and cool to debate with, Grape Ape shockingly so.
Red Sox fans and Yankees fans debating rationally with no flaming or bashing, Hell must have frozen over. ;D
The Rockies have the best record in baseball the past month.