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"I'm going to cut right to it. Here's EXACTLY, word for word, what it takes for anyone to turn pro:
1. Genetics
2. Busting your ass in the gym
3. Knowing how to eat alot of good food
4. Knowing what it means to "rest"
5. 12-15 YEARS of being consistant, and never missing a scheduled workout (*note: you are allowed to miss 2-3 workouts in that 12-15 years for funerals, family tragedy, etc.)
NOW.. here's how 1-5 plays out: Your GENETICS, you are born with, and can do nothing about. Numbers 2,3,4, I could teach a retarded monkey with a brain amputation.
And #5.. is why 99.99999% of the people fail.. and fall dead on their ass.
Notice is doesn't say "gear" or "steroids" in there at all. If you are one of those people that walks around saying "he's just big because he's on tons of shit!", then you will NEVER make it. NEVER!!
Steroids, GH, gear.. is the ultimate weak minded pussies excuse. Because, if it's GEAR, they never have to admit they aren't good enough. These people come up with an abstract excuse that no one can exacty pin point (how much, exactly is "tons of shit"?), and that way they don't have to admit they just ain't got it.
Notice the only thing you never hear someone say is: "I'm just not good enough?""
Discuss!
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wow....
how many times has this been posted?
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wow....
how many times has this been posted?
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oh sorry im not an expert getbig poster like you there buddy.
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When/where did TP say this???
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Name: knny187
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where is this from?
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Name: knny187
Posts: 17956 (15.064 per day)
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Date Registered: March 31, 2004, 06:57:42 PM
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yup....a monstrous 15 post average a day
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wow....
how many times has this been posted?
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I've never seen it. Seems like a pretty good summary. So why do people rip on Tom Prince?
He's not advocating mad drug abuse like gh15 -- who oddly enough has fans on this board...he's advocating hard work and gumption.
Obviously drugs DO come into play, but w/o the other things as a solid foundation, you're going to be just another bloated dbol mess for a couple months then shrink right back to the 150lb weakling you started out as...
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I've never seen it.
Just means you haven't seen it posted all of the other times either
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oh sorry im not an expert getbig poster like you there buddy.
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i suggest you shut your fucking mouth and take the (well deserved) beating like a man.
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Steroids, GH, gear.. is the ultimate weak minded pussies excuse.
Does anyone have a recent pic of this weak minded pussy? He's so skinny in it it's pathetic. Talk about epic self ownage!
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Does anyone have a recent pic of this weak minded pussy? He's so skinny in it it's pathetic. Talk about epic self ownage!
Being skinny is not self ownage, you need to know more and read the whole story to appreciate Tom's self ownage.
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Being skinny is not self ownage, you need to know more and read the whole story to appreciate Tom's self ownage.
With his superior genetics, he should be able to keep most of his size. But he didn't keep any really.. so he just declared himself a weak minded pussy. Hope this helps.
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With his superior genetics, he should be able to keep most of his size. But he didn't keep any really.. so he just declared himself a weak minded pussy. Hope this helps.
Sorry come again?
So you suggest if you have major health issues and obviously cannot train anymore you should still keep your size?
ehhh? Points over to the Steroid and Trainings board.
Hope that helps too.
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Sorry come again?
So you suggest if you have major health issues and obviously cannot train anymore you should still keep your size?
ehhh? Points over to the Steroid and Trainings board.
Hope that helps too.
Hi Tom
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Every time I see Tom Prince's face....
I have to take a shit
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i suggest you shut your fucking mouth and take the (well deserved) beating like a man.
oh please, how about you shut your fucking mouth before it gets shut for you, little boy. is that the response you wanted? ::) ::) ::)
loser.
you seem to be quite the expert on 'weak minded pussies". coincidence? nah. ;D
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Still a good read and probably very accurate. I remember when he posted this on Mayhem.
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oh please, how about you shut your fucking mouth before it gets shut for you, little boy. is that the response you wanted? ::) ::) ::)
loser.
you seem to be quite the expert on 'weak minded pussies". coincidence? nah. ;D
Thats the reply I expected ;D you failed the first test
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Thats the reply I expected ;D you failed the first test
so then you do admit you are a weak minded pussy? ;D
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so then you do admit you are a weak minded pussy? ;D
absolutly....
Not ;)
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Tom Prince is a muscle bear
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I've never seen it. Seems like a pretty good summary. So why do people rip on Tom Prince?
::) Because hes full of fucking shit. Hes off the sauce now and hes 160 pounds, a shriveled up little pussy. It wasnt genetics and "hard work" that kept him at 300 pounds, it was tons of gear. ;D hahaha
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"Genetics" .,,,,ok Tom,,,,judging by the way you look now, your genetics suck. Another washed up bodybuilder who tries to pull this crap. Gear and lots of it, is what made you the "Thing".
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:D
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"I'm going to cut right to it. Here's EXACTLY, word for word, what it takes for anyone to turn pro:
1. Genetics
2. Busting your ass in the gym
3. Knowing how to eat alot of good food
4. Knowing what it means to "rest"
5. 12-15 YEARS of being consistant, and never missing a scheduled workout (*note: you are allowed to miss 2-3 workouts in that 12-15 years for funerals, family tragedy, etc.)
NOW.. here's how 1-5 plays out: Your GENETICS, you are born with, and can do nothing about. Numbers 2,3,4, I could teach a retarded monkey with a brain amputation.
And #5.. is why 99.99999% of the people fail.. and fall dead on their ass.
Notice is doesn't say "gear" or "steroids" in there at all. If you are one of those people that walks around saying "he's just big because he's on tons of shit!", then you will NEVER make it. NEVER!!
Steroids, GH, gear.. is the ultimate weak minded pussies excuse. Because, if it's GEAR, they never have to admit they aren't good enough. These people come up with an abstract excuse that no one can exacty pin point (how much, exactly is "tons of shit"?), and that way they don't have to admit they just ain't got it.
Notice the only thing you never hear someone say is: "I'm just not good enough?""
Discuss!
SO TRUE...........
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lee are you being sarcastic by the .... after true .... ???....
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SO TRUE...........
You have no fcking shame...The douchebag you are agreeing with has told many people in his life/and at the gym, that if he could go back he would leave the gear alone...And that he had to take it to be competitive...
The fcking guy is half dead for crying out loud and you are agreeing with what he says...You LEE PRIEST are a disgusting man...
Just imagine if all the football players/or actors got behind OJ Simpson and what he has said about the murder and said....."SO TRUE"
You have no fcking shame and you need to just go away with your BS lies...
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::) Because hes full of fucking shit. Hes off the sauce now and hes 160 pounds, a shriveled up little pussy. It wasnt genetics and "hard work" that kept him at 300 pounds, it was tons of gear. ;D hahaha
yeah what a crock of shit from a midget big 300 pounder LOL
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I've never seen it. Seems like a pretty good summary. So why do people rip on Tom Prince?
He's not advocating mad drug abuse like gh15 -- who oddly enough has fans on this board...he's advocating hard work and gumption.
Obviously drugs DO come into play, but w/o the other things as a solid foundation, you're going to be just another bloated dbol mess for a couple months then shrink right back to the 150lb weakling you started out as...
Garraeth.... TP was spouting shit like this all the time, yet when HE came off the drugs, he shrank down to like 160 lbs (while claiming to be 220 or something), proving he was ALL DRUGS.
It is true that all 5 of those things are required to have a pro physique. It's also true that #6, massive amounts of gear, are also required or numbers 1 through 5 will produce a 200-lb guy at best (less at TP's height), not a 5'8" 300-lb mass monster.
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SO TRUE...........
haha funny Lee
if its not about the drugs how come he's a tiny little bitch now ;D
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Just some information:
On musclemayhem, Tom Prince said he was the one who gave Branch Warren the diuretics he used to dry out at the 2001 Nationals. In MD, Branch said that he was cramping in his hotel room begging the person with him to take him to the hospital. How crazy is it that Tom gave Branch (a seasoned drug abuser) enough drugs to almost kill him? Branch did not mention Tom in the MD article but those of us who read both the thread on mayhem and the article in MD put the two stories together.
FYI, the original thread is here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=346423 (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=346423)
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Just some information:
On musclemayhem, Tom Prince said he was the one who gave Branch Warren the diuretics he used to dry out at the 2001 Nationals. In MD, Branch said that he was cramping in his hotel room begging the person with him to take him to the hospital. How crazy is it that Tom gave Branch (a seasoned drug abuser) enough drugs to almost kill him? Branch did not mention Tom in the MD article but those of us who read both the thread on mayhem and the article in MD put the two stories together.
FYI, the original thread is here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=346423 (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=346423)
branch was their protege. tamali use to talk about branch alot back in 2000
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what's with all the G4P? I don't get it... there are limitless non-degrading ways to make money.
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what's with all the G4P? I don't get it... there are limitless non-degrading ways to make money.
why, who charges?
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90% of what said in this thread is garbage,,90%+ of what 'prince of bone' saying is garbage,,
remember you are talking about a swimmer and no olympic material swimmer here fellas,,never had good gnetics to begin with and even if he did hed be light weight,,but dont worry you wont see no pictures of the individual from age 16-17 because it was nothing to talk about or look at,,average joe
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90% of what said in this thread is garbage,,90%+ of what 'prince of bone' saying is garbage,,
remember you are talking about a swimmer and no olympic material swimmer here fellas,,never had good gnetics to begin with and even if he did hed be light weight,,but dont worry you wont see no pictures of the individual from age 16-17 because it was nothing to talk about or look at,,average joe
So you're saying that if TA took mad drugs, he'd be Mr. O material? heh, not in this dimension.
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90% of what said in this thread is garbage,,90%+ of what 'prince of bone' saying is garbage,,
remember you are talking about a swimmer and no olympic material swimmer here fellas,,never had good gnetics to begin with and even if he did hed be light weight,,but dont worry you wont see no pictures of the individual from age 16-17 because it was nothing to talk about or look at,,average joe
hahahahaa, exactly, Tom Prince was a walking pharmacy and has failed kidneys to prove it.
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Well, some peoples kidneys go thatt never touched a bottel of Dbol.
But I doubt steroid abuse didn't play major part with Tom.
The points are all accurate, but steroids do have profound effect. The guys would look A LOT DIFFERENT
WITHOUT THEM! ANyone wants to honestly argue that - never used any, or is misleading.
But pills and oils don't make champions by themself.
99.999% of the male population wouldn't make it to top Pro calibre with their own pharmacy and expert coaching and total dedication.
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So you're saying that if TA took mad drugs, he'd be Mr. O material? heh, not in this dimension.
not olympia material ,,but he would be same quality 30-40lb bigger to beggin with if he was constantly on hormones and other products,,
all depends on his reponse to hormone and training and since he already been on them since 250lb 5'10 is usually hormonized to some degree,,more likley m1t or some simple products in tablet forms,,and he is not getting any younger....he would most likley not win pro card even if constantly hormonized these days
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Now I know why I'll never be pro. I'm simply not good enough. Thanks Tom. By the way, if you want to get to 205lbs @5%bf without drugs, call me up and I'll give you my diet and training tips.
Most people who lift do not want to be a pro bodybuilder, myself included. If I had the genetic response to gear need to be a pro, I still wouldn't go that route. I can't imagine waking up every day and knowing I need 4 shots, 15 pills, etc, just to stay in contention. Also, knowing that drugs were the route of my existence/physique would to me, be a shitty feeling.
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Drug use is the most important part of being a pro and that's final.
Drug use is crucial to sports, wrestling and bbing.. That's the TRUTH.
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Now I know why I'll never be pro. I'm simply not good enough. Thanks Tom. By the way, if you want to get to 205lbs @5%bf without drugs, call me up and I'll give you my diet and training tips.
Most people who lift do not want to be a pro bodybuilder, myself included. If I had the genetic response to gear need to be a pro, I still wouldn't go that route. I can't imagine waking up every day and knowing I need 4 shots, 15 pills, etc, just to stay in contention. Also, knowing that drugs were the route of my existence/physique would to me, be a shitty feeling.
Better start out at 300+BW to end up w/ a honest 5% at 205. That aint realistic IMO.
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99.999% of the male population wouldn't make it to top Pro calibre with their own pharmacy and expert coaching and total dedication.
This is not true, drugs play such a huge role. Every high school in this country has at least a few kids off the football/wrestling/track teams that could equal many of the "pros" if given the Pharmacy, time and weights. Prince actually has shit genetics, his are sub-par as are Queen Tamale's and several other pros.
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This is not true, drugs play such a huge role. Every high school in this country has at least a few kids off the football/wrestling/track teams that could equal many of the "pros" if given the Pharmacy, time and weights. Prince actually has shit genetics, his are sub-par as are Queen Tamale's and several other pros.
Yeah I believe in "genetics for gear". Still, not that many turn top pro calibre.
It takes Decades to build a Dorian, or Haney or Ronnie .... Its not just drugs, but it does take drugs to do that.
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haha funny Lee
if its not about the drugs how come he's a tiny little bitch now ;D
I HAVE NO IDEA...I HAVE BEEN OF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR AFTER ENGLAND NOC...TRAIN HARD EVERYDAY HAVENT TAKEN TIME OF...EATING WHATEVER AND I AM 255-260...SO WHY THESE GUYS SHRINK UP I HAVE NEVER KNOWN...I SAW FLEX AFTER OYLMPIA ONE YEAR AND HE WAS DOWN TO LIKE 180......BEATS ME DOSENT MAKE SENSE TO WORK HARD AND THEN LOSE IT ALL........JUST LUCKY I NEVER DO.......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT I GUESS.......
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I'm clean too and as big as a fuckin' house..
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thats coz flex was on juice since day 1
when pppl shrink down, its down to no training not proper eating, lee enjoys his kfc.
gear will increase ur strength and recovery, it will utilize the proteins properly, strength when on gear and off:
i was doing half stacks on everythin, take a couple of dbols, and next thing ya know full stacks and shrugs with 14 plates!
ya dont turn into ronnie after one cycle it takes years on gear , and many cycles. eg one cycle should add about 10lbs on lean body muscle, and 1 " + on all measurements arms etc
but if ya take gear ya gotta eat ya protein as much as possible.
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I've never seen it. Seems like a pretty good summary. So why do people rip on Tom Prince?
He's not advocating mad drug abuse like gh15 -- who oddly enough has fans on this board...he's advocating hard work and gumption.
Obviously drugs DO come into play, but w/o the other things as a solid foundation, you're going to be just another bloated dbol mess for a couple months then shrink right back to the 150lb weakling you started out as...
Yes but he comes off holier than thou like he didn't do any drugs and or they played no part in his success.
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I HAVE NO IDEA...I HAVE BEEN OF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR AFTER ENGLAND NOC...TRAIN HARD EVERYDAY HAVENT TAKEN TIME OF...EATING WHATEVER AND I AM 255-260...SO WHY THESE GUYS SHRINK UP I HAVE NEVER KNOWN...I SAW FLEX AFTER OYLMPIA ONE YEAR AND HE WAS DOWN TO LIKE 180......BEATS ME DOSENT MAKE SENSE TO WORK HARD AND THEN LOSE IT ALL........JUST LUCKY I NEVER DO.......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT I GUESS.......
Maybe because you do have the great genetics Tom talks about. While somebody like Prince doesn't.
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I HAVE NO IDEA...I HAVE BEEN OF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR AFTER ENGLAND NOC...TRAIN HARD EVERYDAY HAVENT TAKEN TIME OF...EATING WHATEVER AND I AM 255-260...SO WHY THESE GUYS SHRINK UP I HAVE NEVER KNOWN...I SAW FLEX AFTER OYLMPIA ONE YEAR AND HE WAS DOWN TO LIKE 180......BEATS ME DOSENT MAKE SENSE TO WORK HARD AND THEN LOSE IT ALL........JUST LUCKY I NEVER DO.......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT I GUESS.......
you're correct, we're not all midgets that eat tons of crap with tons of gear. some people like to be able to look down and SEE their dicks, so they stay a bit leaner than you. tom prince was/is a FAG. i remember how addicted to NUBAIN he was. it was rumored he would do anything for it. most of those "burn outs" used alot of "bain".
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Tom "wrote" that in an article in Flex magazine like 10 years ago. It sounds about right, less the AAS . . .
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I HAVE NO IDEA...I HAVE BEEN OF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR AFTER ENGLAND NOC...TRAIN HARD EVERYDAY HAVENT TAKEN TIME OF...EATING WHATEVER AND I AM 255-260...SO WHY THESE GUYS SHRINK UP I HAVE NEVER KNOWN...I SAW FLEX AFTER OYLMPIA ONE YEAR AND HE WAS DOWN TO LIKE 180......BEATS ME DOSENT MAKE SENSE TO WORK HARD AND THEN LOSE IT ALL........JUST LUCKY I NEVER DO.......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT I GUESS.......
You have a good point Lee, but when you say you "have no idea" how these guys loose every last pound of muscle is very simple. They didn't have patience to build a solid foundation in the first place (at least 5+ years), they wanted everything NOW and the only way to get everything NOW is to take insane amounts of drugs that could be used smartly. I have seen it many times, i have at least 10 friends that started AAS very soon and have all stopped training, cycling and proper eating, all of them look like average joes.
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I got a headache...where's the advil?
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I got a headache...where's the advil?
Haha coincidental Tom became sick because of the advil hahahah.
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Tom nearly died for you bitches because of Advil.
Haha coincidental Tom became sick because of the advil hahahah.