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Talk about hypocrisy. Who will they ban from the Olympia Expo next?
The media?
BALCO Founder Victor Conte Banned From Olympia!
Written by John Romano
July 13, 2007
My good friend Victor Conte called me yesterday and laid this crazy story on me. Over two months ago, Victor reserved and paid - via credit card - for booth space at the Mr. Olympia Expo. He was hoping to showcase the nutritional products being sold by his new company, SNAC. He also went ahead and booked airfare and hotel rooms in Vegas for himself and several of his staff.
Yesterday, Victor received a phonecall from someone at Weider named "Craig" who effectively told him that an upper level management decision was made and they nixed his reservation. His credit card deposit was refunded and the matter was closed without any attempt on Weider/AMI's part to explain their decision. Clearly, Victor's prior involvement in the biggest doping scandal in sports history has made him persona non grata at the Olympia.
Other than the unfairness of it all, this "upper level management decision" reeks of hypocrisy! Think about it, the guy accused and convicted of giving steroids to athletes is banned from the Olympia; while the guys taking them are the very reason everyone is attending to begin with!
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Is this BS.. is would that even be legal?s
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Good question. Can they legally ban somebody from participating in an event because they have a steroid stigma? This may be bound for the Supreme Court.
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Politics!!! It's all politics...I wish we didn't have to deal with this kind of crap in the bodybuilding world. Since he's seen as part of our existence then he's going to be condemned as well as any bodybuilders who are associated with him..Why can't the "little man" leave us alone????
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This may be about more than politics. It may be about fear. Steroid scandals in baseball, football and wrestling. Could bodybuilding be next? Are the suits still trying to get bodybuilding into the Olympic Games?
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This may be about more than politics. It may be about fear. Steroid scandals in baseball, football and wrestling. Could bodybuilding be next? Are the suits still trying to get bodybuilding into the Olympic Games?
That is so true..fear and politics go hand in hand...whatever they don't understand, they fear, and then try to destroy through whatever methods are available. Incite the public (who know nothing of steroids and their use) to a ferver over something they don't understand and make steroids the culprit in everything IE the Chris Benoit case...
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According to USA Today - Jul 13
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-07-12-balco-leak_N.htm?csp=34
Attorney sentenced to 30 months in BALCO leak case
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Conte still in the supplement game - USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-07-08-conte-cover_N.htm
Wonder if this article had anything to do with why he got banned from the Olympia?
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It really angers me the way the public always jumps to the conclusion that steroids are the culprit in everything. Look at the Chris Benoit case...they are blaming steroids for his breakdown...but how many other mutha-fuckas- have done the same thing in the last few months? They weren't on steroids! Perhaps it's the cheese they all ate the weeks before! Let's all boycott cheddar cheese! Do you see how rediculous that is? Banning Victor Conte is also the hight of stupidity! What people decide to do with their bodies, should not be visited on the supplier. I will now and always be a supporter of his. This is one lady who has the balls to speak up.
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Hopefully when he reserved his booth he got a contract. It's all good that they returned his money and what not, but we must not forget about the fact that he has lost an opportunity to generate revenue. I think if there was a contract of adhesion and it was broken with out a disclosed reason a lawsuit may be on the horizon. F the IFBB. Victor is responsible for half of the pro physiques and major league sports stars. That would be like un-inviting Arnold. Victor is sort of a Pseudo sponsor if you get my drift. ;)
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That's a bunch of crap. Victor was involved in a steroid scandal, yet the competitors themselves are using them...or is just MuscleTech products they use? ???
:D
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That's a bunch of crap. Victor was involved in a steroid scandal, yet the competitors themselves are using them...or is just MuscleTech products they use? ???
:D
Last I checked MLB is still letting Barry Bonds play. IFBB is just a really elite organization.
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Talk about hypocrisy. Who will they ban from the Olympia Expo next?
The media?
BALCO Founder Victor Conte Banned From Olympia!
Written by John Romano
July 13, 2007
My good friend Victor Conte called me yesterday and laid this crazy story on me. Over two months ago, Victor reserved and paid - via credit card - for booth space at the Mr. Olympia Expo. He was hoping to showcase the nutritional products being sold by his new company, SNAC. He also went ahead and booked airfare and hotel rooms in Vegas for himself and several of his staff.
Yesterday, Victor received a phonecall from someone at Weider named "Craig" who effectively told him that an upper level management decision was made and they nixed his reservation. His credit card deposit was refunded and the matter was closed without any attempt on Weider/AMI's part to explain their decision. Clearly, Victor's prior involvement in the biggest doping scandal in sports history has made him persona non grata at the Olympia.
Other than the unfairness of it all, this "upper level management decision" reeks of hypocrisy! Think about it, the guy accused and convicted of giving steroids to athletes is banned from the Olympia; while the guys taking them are the very reason everyone is attending to begin with!
The Craig you are speaking of is probably Craig Titus working pro bono for the Wieder offices.
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Who would want this piece of shit anywhere near them....Now he's getting rich slinging bogus supplements to kids...
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Wonder how many people who have been allowed to have booths at the Olympia Expo have some sort of steroid related criminal history? Is he being banned simply based upon his level of profile? Will they take someone's money as long as the steroid stigma is not beyond a 6 on a scale of one to ten?
How about Victor Martinez being banned because of his past legal history involving steroids? Should Victor also be banned as a competitor?
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Another fucking dumbass move on the IFBB's part...People wonder why no one takes bodybuilding seriously.... ::)
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conte should be in jail for dispensing meds. without a license.
many of his athletes are banned from competition and this scumbag drives around in his new bentley, acting like a celebrity.
fvck him.
You sound like one of the athletes. :D
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conte should be in jail for dispensing meds. without a license.
many of his athletes are banned from competition and this scumbag drives around in his new bentley, acting like a celebrity.
fvck him.
Even worse is the fact that Greg Anderson is in jail and Victor is not. How do you explain that??
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Too bad Victor isn't a kneegrow... he could pull the "discrimination" card and sue. Jesse and everone else would show up and give sound bites for the cameras.
A poor White boy's got no recourse. >:(
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It really angers me the way the public always jumps to the conclusion that steroids are the culprit in everything. Look at the Chris Benoit case...they are blaming steroids for his breakdown...but how many other mutha-fuckas- have done the same thing in the last few months? They weren't on steroids! Perhaps it's the cheese they all ate the weeks before! Let's all boycott cheddar cheese! Do you see how rediculous that is? Banning Victor Conte is also the hight of stupidity! What people decide to do with their bodies, should not be visited on the supplier. I will now and always be a supporter of his. This is one lady who has the balls to speak up.
They are protecting the way the are portrayed by the "regular" public. They don't want the negative publicity of having him there, it would hurt ticket sales. Not this year, but next year you would have those "regular" people NOT buying tickets because they might not agree with him being there even though they KNOW that aas plays a huge role. He is looked at as a CRIMINAL they don't want that there period.
I wonder if Jason Arntz will be banned too :)
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Is having a steroid conviction really a reasonable explanation for banning someone from having an Olympia booth? Maybe that's a right that
all Americans with a felony should lose along with the right to vote. Patrick Arnold, Victor Martinez, Dave Palumbo and many other industry members with a similar history will be participating at the expo. So, that can't be the real reason. Seems to be more about a fear of the mainstream media bringing a zoom lens. Maybe Governor Arnold will step up and give Conte a pardon.
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They are protecting the way the are portrayed by the "regular" public. They don't want the negative publicity of having him there, it would hurt ticket sales. Not this year, but next year you would have those "regular" people NOT buying tickets because they might not agree with him being there even though they KNOW that aas plays a huge role. He is looked at as a CRIMINAL they don't want that there period.
I wonder if Jason Arntz will be banned too :)
That's a crock... "regular" (mainstream) people do not attend the Olympia and never will. No way in Hell Conte being there would effect ticket sales.
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You are talking about having a booth at the expo, not Victor Conte being banned for attending. There is a difference.
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You are talking about having a booth at the expo, not Victor Conte being banned for attending. There is a difference.
So that somehow makes it okay?
The people at Weider are unprofessional idiots who make arbitrary decisions for the express purpose of screwing with people they don't like. Real businesses don't run that way.
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Ok folks....here's a real question & maybe Milos can answer....
"What is Victor's relationship now with Milos & do they still have a friendship/working relationship?"
Just curious if one thing is related to another
;)
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Ron says,"You are talking about having a booth at the expo, not Victor Conte being banned for attending. There is a difference"
Are you suggesting that it is ok for them to ban him from having a booth as long as they allow him to buy a ticket? We live in America, "the land of the free." No discrimination. Free enterprise and all that. Equal opportunity, etc. This seems more like "He who has the gold, rules,"
Ron, thoughts?
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Wouldnt it be funny to see Ranalli,Weinberger, and Manion comming out in hand cuffs.In a IFBB scandal.The Feds are already looking into Weinberger for distributing steroids in his gym.A local Long Island doctor spilled the beans.Isnt he on discipline committee.Maybe the IFBB should suspend him like they did Milos.Being he is being fingered by the doctor.Hey no one is above the law and when the Feds show up at IFBB headquarters one day and remove boxes and boxes of evidence and records.Then evervone will have their day in court.The FEDS did it with Don King,they did it with the WWF,Balco,Enron,it goes on and on.The IFBB is not bigger than the Government.Weather they end up Guilty or innocent, I know one thing its going to hit them right in their pocket $$$$.And we all will have a good laugh 8)
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The Balco rat will have a booth at the Olympia, they should ban him also.
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knny187,
Below was posted by Milos on milossarcev.com yesterday:
I would just like to remind AMI and IFBB that Victor always supported both - magazine and federation...plus IFBB professional bodybuilders.
He made possible for FLEX to interview Marion Jones...M&F to interview Barry Bonds...bodybuilders to get free blood tests and free ZMA + other minerals they were deficient in...
I hope someone in the office will realize it...and I will certainly mention it to few people who might actually care.
Victor is my personal friend - always was...always will be.
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Victor Conte banned from the Olympia?Let me ask you this.This weekend I saw an interview with congressman Patrick Kennedy.In the interview he said "Im bipolar,an alcoholic and a drug addict".Now,can someone explain how Victor Conte is banned from attending a bodybuilding show,but Kennedy is allowed to make laws for us to follow.Does anyone find that truly amazing?Congress will have hearings on steroids and call for suspensions like 3 strikes and your out,but Kennedy goes into rehab for his third time and NOT one of those gutless scumbags call for his removal from congress.Thats why people despise their government.
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kennedy was elected
hope this helps
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kennedy was elected
hope this helps
he's also been doing a good job, personal life aside
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Ron says,"You are talking about having a booth at the expo, not Victor Conte being banned for attending. There is a difference"
Are you suggesting that it is ok for them to ban him from having a booth as long as they allow him to buy a ticket? We live in America, "the land of the free." No discrimination. Free enterprise and all that. Equal opportunity, etc. This seems more like "He who has the gold, rules,"
Ron, thoughts?
It's a private event, they can deny entry.
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It's a private event, they can deny entry.
If you advertise to the public and charge admission, that seems pretty "public" to me. Try arbitrarily refusing to entry to a black guy and see the nice discrimination suit you end up with. ::)
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What a pile of shit.
The world's biggest anabolic abuser event, doesn't want Conte (mr. drugs) there. ::)
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Is Craig, Chicks upper management name at Weedah?
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It's a private event, they can deny entry.
Yep. Same as NFL or MBL or UFC or whatever deciding who can and can't use their venue to conduct business.
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The bottom line is that whatever criteria is used for denying someone an exhibit booth at the expo should be uniform and apply to all people who fit that criteria. There are many others with a past history of legal cases involving steroids who are being allowed to have exhibit booths. Why is he being singled out? They even allow competitors on stage (Victor Martinez) with a legal history involving steroids. It just doesn't seem to pass the smell test. Someone recently posted that it was like Paris Hilton attempting to ban Pamela Anderson from the neighborhood because of her reputation.
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The bottom line is that whatever criteria is used for denying someone an exhibit booth at the expo should be uniform and apply to all people who fit that criteria. There are many others with a past history of legal cases involving steroids who are being allowed to have exhibit booths. Why is he being singled out? They even allow competitors on stage (Victor Martinez) with a legal history involving steroids. It just doesn't seem to pass the smell test. Someone recently posted that it was like Paris Hilton attempting to ban Pamela Anderson from the neighborhood because of her reputation.
ah the appearance of impropriety. ban the booth or it will appear like guilt because of assosiation