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Title: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:12:35 AM
When I see what these bodybuilders do to their bodies and the extremes they go to for a title or to get in the magazines, I say I wouldn't want to do that.

But in the end, many years from now, their pictures and stories will still be in magazines, web sites, their digital images will exist forever. Who knows what kid from the year 3000 thousand will be inspired by a Rhul or even a Kamali. And where will we be, the moderate people who played it safe, who never got in the magazines? Will anyone remember us.
Does it matter?

Maybe these guys are smart, get famous at all costs,  live forever.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: tommywishbone on July 21, 2007, 07:14:57 AM
Be just and fear not.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: bigmc on July 21, 2007, 07:19:43 AM
When I see what these bodybuilders do to their bodies and the extremes they go to for a title or to get in the magazines, I say I wouldn't want to do that.

But in the end, many years from now, their pictures and stories will still be in magazines, web sites, their digital images will exist forever. Who knows what kid from the year 3000 thousand will be inspired by a Rhul or even a Kamali. And where will we be, the moderate people who played it safe, who never got in the magazines? Will anyone remember us.
Does it matter?

Maybe these guys are smart, get famous at all costs,  live forever.

Discuss.


very funny

i bet 90 percent of the population could only name one bodybuilder

arnie
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:20:06 AM
Be just and fear not.

Or is it....  Success by crook or by hook.

Success achieved through honest means or crooked means is still success, right?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: tommywishbone on July 21, 2007, 07:22:10 AM
It's a tough call.

Oh, Good morning NYC. :)
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:27:48 AM
very funny

i bet 90 percent of the population could only name one bodybuilder

arnie

but maybe in the future some of these other bodybuilders will get recognition. It happens all the time.

There are many old singers and musicians that are not appreciated till after they are dead... Until their style becomes the style of the day, then they get famous. Why wouldn't it be the same with bodybuilding.

But, Im not talking about world famous like Arnold I'm talking about immortal recognition in the subculture of bodybuilding.

Even if Jay Cutler dies at 40, He will always be Mr. Olympia year 2006 from now until eternity. The digital age will keep his picture exactly as it is today, it will be there forever. He will be looked at and admired by someone from the year 3000, 4000, 5000..Maybe not such a bad trade off..?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2007, 07:29:06 AM
I would have to disagree with u ...the diff between u and the pros is not that u " play it safe buddy" ::)
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:31:31 AM
It's a tough call.

Oh, Good morning NYC. :)

It is a tough call and tougher as our culture increasingly values image and recognition over privacy and modesty. More about material gain than spiritual richness.

good morning to you too.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: UK Gold on July 21, 2007, 07:32:07 AM
Its only the real champs, freaks and innovators that will be remebered. Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Rhul etc. People have alredy started to forget about Shawn, Flex, Nasser etc etc.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:34:17 AM
I would have to disagree with u ...the diff between u and the pros is not that u " play it safe buddy" ::)

can you be more ambiguous?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: dr.chimps on July 21, 2007, 07:39:46 AM
"I plan to achieve immortality by not dying." - Woody Allen

/pace: off the top of my head
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2007, 07:45:01 AM
can you be more ambiguous?
he implyes that if he would abuse aas he'd be like ronnie...aaa...no
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:46:03 AM
Its only the real champs, freaks and innovators that will be remebered. Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Rhul etc. People have alredy started to forget about Shawn, Flex, Nasser etc etc.


Yes but in the digital age, Shawn, Flex, Nasser, are not going away. Their pictues are immortalized in cyber space bodybuilding history, good or bad their images and stories will still be around. Ours will not.  Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 07:48:45 AM
he implyes that if he would abuse aas he'd be like ronnie...aaa...no

well of course there are limitation that some people have

I am talking hypothetically. If you new you could make it in the magazines and have your image live forever, but you would die early, is that a cool trade off?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2007, 08:05:56 AM
well of course there are limitation that some people have

I am talking hypothetically. If you new you could make it in the magazines and have your image live forever, but you would die early, is that a cool trade off?
I think u generalize and exagerate...noone will die early
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: kyomu on July 21, 2007, 08:15:08 AM
When I see what these bodybuilders do to their bodies and the extremes they go to for a title or to get in the magazines, I say I wouldn't want to do that.

But in the end, many years from now, their pictures and stories will still be in magazines, web sites, their digital images will exist forever. Who knows what kid from the year 3000 thousand will be inspired by a Rhul or even a Kamali. And where will we be, the moderate people who played it safe, who never got in the magazines? Will anyone remember us.
Does it matter?

Maybe these guys are smart, get famous at all costs,  live forever.

Discuss.

Hey dude!Whats up? Its not like you.
You are too philosophical this time. ;D

Yes,You are right. The life has many point of views. The answer is in yourself.
The important thing is not if you are natural or full of roids.
If you look this way and you are satisfied,its not bad choice that you do every gears.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Livewire on July 21, 2007, 08:21:34 AM
noone will die early

if you're reading this, it means you've already outran a million other sperm cells and made it 15+ years in a dangerous world.  "Early" means you never made it to the egg cell.  You shut up and savor every minute, my friend.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Bluto on July 21, 2007, 08:25:20 AM
our posts on getbig will live forever. google making sure of that.

and the more you have, the bigger the immortality.

so carpe diem - make every post count, and make a lot of them!

Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: ironneck on July 21, 2007, 08:32:29 AM
i hate all the hate here
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 21, 2007, 08:35:19 AM
When I see what these bodybuilders do to their bodies and the extremes they go to for a title or to get in the magazines, I say I wouldn't want to do that.

But in the end, many years from now, their pictures and stories will still be in magazines, web sites, their digital images will exist forever. Who knows what kid from the year 3000 thousand will be inspired by a Rhul or even a Kamali. And where will we be, the moderate people who played it safe, who never got in the magazines? Will anyone remember us.
Does it matter?

Maybe these guys are smart, get famous at all costs,  live forever.

Discuss.


yeah and some of us will actually live long enough to live forever.  We will still be around in the year 3000 to make fun of these monkeys.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: EbBnFlO on July 21, 2007, 08:35:57 AM
Yea i want to be immortal for real and watch as history makes it self and not just read about it.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 21, 2007, 10:06:55 AM
if you're passionate about something, why not dedicate yourself to it? If you give half ass effort towards the endeavor that means more to you than any other, what kind of life are you leading?
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: gordiano on July 21, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
but maybe in the future some of these other bodybuilders will get recognition. It happens all the time.

There are many old singers and musicians that are not appreciated till after they are dead... Until their style becomes the style of the day, then they get famous. Why wouldn't it be the same with bodybuilding.

But, Im not talking about world famous like Arnold I'm talking about immortal recognition in the subculture of bodybuilding.

Even if Jay Cutler dies at 40, He will always be Mr. Olympia year 2006 from now until eternity. The digital age will keep his picture exactly as it is today, it will be there forever. He will be looked at and admired by someone from the year 3000, 4000, 5000..Maybe not such a bad trade off..?

I see the point you are trying to make. However, those people (musicians in this case) did something worthwhile. Something worth remembering. Growing muscles, to the point where it's unhealthy, and posing for a crowd of gay men, is not exactly something to glorify. Hell, if anyone actaully remembered them, I'd probably be as part of a joke, like we do today.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 21, 2007, 11:24:33 AM
This is one of the stupider threads I've read here in a long time.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: gordiano on July 21, 2007, 11:28:16 AM
This is one of the stupider threads I've read here in a long time.

I concur.


And that's saying something.....
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Fulgorre on July 21, 2007, 12:36:46 PM
I've got news for you too.  Being age 70 with 5 million in the bank no will remember you either.  Nor 10, 20, 30, 40 mill.  What you'll have to show at this age will be a splendid residence (or two), a very nice muscle car , and a 30 something gold-digging mistress.  You can enjoy this in your weaken, testosterone deficient, frail body knowing every day leads to great rx drug use and more doctor visits.  In time, your familia will have you committed to a retirement home.  It is here, a cruel person will beat you and steal you pain meds & your kids visititations will become less and less frequent until they only show up on major holidays.

None of us are going to live forever.  Given the above is the most likely scenario (minus the millions) for most people on this board, I think I'll choose to take some hormones and make the best of what time I've been given on this Earth.  Dead at 68 from hormones or diapers in a care home at 80?  You decide.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 21, 2007, 12:47:46 PM
I'd be mildly surprised if there is a year 3000 for the human race.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 02:18:34 PM
This is one of the stupider threads I've read here in a long time.


hahaha, yea right....you are just mad at something I must have said in some debate with you. Get over it.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 02:20:01 PM
Hey dude!Whats up? Its not like you.
You are too philosophical this time. ;D




 ;D
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 02:22:25 PM
I'd be mildly surprised if there is a year 3000 for the human race.

me too. I wonder what will do it, a virus, asteroid who knows.  Or maybe God will finally reveal who the chosen people really are and kill the rest of us.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: hazbin on July 21, 2007, 02:35:29 PM
i've thought the same thing for years. once you're even in one musclemag, your achievements are documented in hundreds of thousands of magazines and the chances of  a few copies being around in a few centuries is quite realistic. Fulgore's post is correct as well, "all your money can't another moment buy". even many rich people when dead are only remembered by their relatives, most of whom feel they got cheated in the will. the thought of some person 3 hundred years from now seeing a mag with your physique in it and being impressed is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Brutal_1 on July 21, 2007, 02:45:37 PM


There's another route....kill a whole bunch of other people, instead of killing yourself (as a pro bodybuilder)  ;)

You'll be remembered....  ;D
Title: Re: Immortality at All Costs.
Post by: Wombat on July 21, 2007, 09:46:55 PM
Everytime someone is being talked about for being "special" their will be many other people showing you why he/she is not...Its all relative..

If a man has 100million dollars and he believes he is special or unique...Someone will show him a magazine with the names of thousands of other people that have just as much money as him...