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Title: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 17, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
This event was supposed to happen tonight. How many unhappy ticket holders were there or any at all? Keith what gives?  240 - why didn't the website say it was cancelled? http://globalfightingchampionships.com

From Sherdog.com:


Friday, August 17, 2007
Global Fighting Championships has cancelled its Friday, Aug. 17 event at the Mohegan Sun in Uncasville, Conn., after four fights had been removed from the card, learned Sherdog.com's Andy Shapiro.

With only four bouts remaining on the bill, GFC representative Joel Parker told Sherdog.com that the organization's decision to cancel the event was due to paying fans not getting more for their money.

Mixed martial arts agent Ken Pavia confirmed on Friday that Mark Kerr and Edwin Dewees, both represented by Pavia, were pulled from the card by the overseeing athletic commission after Kerr registered an unhealthy blood pressure reading on Thursday, while Dewees was unable to make his contracted weight of 185 pounds.

More details to follow as they come available.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 17, 2007, 10:02:12 PM
This event was supposed to happen tonight. How many unhappy ticket holders were there or any at all? Keith what gives?  240 - why didn't the website say it was cancelled? http://globalfightingchampionships.com

From Sherdog.com:


Friday, August 17, 2007
Global Fighting Championships has cancelled its Friday, Aug. 17 event at the Mohegan Sun in Uncasville, Conn., after four fights had been removed from the card, learned Sherdog.com's Andy Shapiro.

With only four bouts remaining on the bill, GFC representative Joel Parker told Sherdog.com that the organization's decision to cancel the event was due to paying fans not getting more for their money.

Mixed martial arts agent Ken Pavia confirmed on Friday that Mark Kerr and Edwin Dewees, both represented by Pavia, were pulled from the card by the overseeing athletic commission after Kerr registered an unhealthy blood pressure reading on Thursday, while Dewees was unable to make his contracted weight of 185 pounds.

More details to follow as they come available.

I don't know what happened, ask your mom.  Asking me what happened would be the same as asking your mom.  Quit being so stupid.  I have nothing to do with that never have.  Nice try though.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 17, 2007, 10:05:52 PM
I don't know what happened, ask your mom.  Asking me what happened would be the same as asking your mom.  Quit being so stupid.  I have nothing to do with that never have.  Nice try though.
Did the shirts make it there in time?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 17, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
Did the shirts make it there in time?

Again, ask your mom.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 17, 2007, 10:17:00 PM
Funny how soon you forget. July you were confident, now you've already resorted to mom jokes.  ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=157402.0
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: LatsMcGee on August 17, 2007, 11:26:43 PM
Strike One.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 17, 2007, 11:41:33 PM
Funny how soon you forget. July you were confident, now you've already resorted to mom jokes.  ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=157402.0


I gotta tell Issac something is truly wrong with you.  whats your problem.  Are you really that insecure or bored or what.  Who gives a shit.  And where on that thread do say I am confident in this show  And you make it sound like he cancelled cause he didn't have the money or no sponsors.  Did you even read the story.  Ask someone to read it and then explain it to you.  Man I truly would hate to be you.  While you worry about Wayne and the PDI and Global fighting I am doing something you can only standback and envy about.  Oh yes!  Believe me when I say envy
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Shawn Ray on August 17, 2007, 11:44:07 PM
KEITH JUST GOT O W N E D!
Nice job, Lift ;D
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: danielson on August 18, 2007, 12:26:34 AM
I am doing something you can only standback and envy about.  Oh yes!  Believe me when I say envy

What are ya doing Keith? Btw, this Demilia guy seems like a total douchebag, if he can't put a show together he shouldn't waste the fans time. You think he is going to cancel the PDI shows as well?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: americanbulldog on August 18, 2007, 01:41:33 AM
That sucks for the fans. 
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 18, 2007, 05:10:14 AM
KEITH JUST GOT O W N E D!
Nice job, Lift ;D
Sean don't talk about being owned.  You had two years of it.  Nice try though. 
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 18, 2007, 05:16:32 AM
What are ya doing Keith? Btw, this Demilia guy seems like a total douchebag, if he can't put a show together he shouldn't waste the fans time. You think he is going to cancel the PDI shows as well?


I am way to busy to worry about Wayne.  I have something happening way more important and bigger than that.  Everyone will know by Oct. 1.   

Sean don't talk about being owned.  You had two years of it.  Nice try though. 

Sean who is sponsoring your huge show next year.  Are you gonna make us wait another year to have you self-own again.  Really maybe you should put it on at a YMCA or something.  Think about it.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: kiwiol on August 18, 2007, 05:27:41 AM

I am way to busy to worry about Wayne.  I have something happening way more important and bigger than that.

Are you talking about this, Onlymen? 8)
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Hedgehog on August 18, 2007, 05:30:46 AM
This event was supposed to happen tonight. How many unhappy ticket holders were there or any at all? Keith what gives?  240 - why didn't the website say it was cancelled? http://globalfightingchampionships.com

Does anyone believe that a man with 20+ years of large event planning can't put on one event in August, then put on six bodybuilding shows, beginning six weeks later?

Well...

It seems like he wasn't.

What do you know about all of this 240 or Bust?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: JimmyThomson on August 18, 2007, 05:42:36 AM

I am way to busy to worry about Wayne.  I have something happening way more important and bigger than that.  Everyone will know by Oct. 1.   


Is that the date you start Liposuction ?

Seems to me that the people who boast about being so busy and importaint are usually those with the empty life. Soon they resort to publishing photos of themselves with Celebrities in a sad attempt at vicarious importance. Make sure you don't reach that stage young man. :)
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: SteelePegasus on August 18, 2007, 05:44:37 AM

I am way to busy to worry about Wayne.  I have something happening way more important and bigger than that.  Everyone will know by Oct. 1.   

a new and revolutionary script for an arm wrestling movie?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: sgt. d on August 18, 2007, 07:02:23 AM
lol
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 18, 2007, 08:55:00 AM
I gotta tell Issac something is truly wrong with you.  whats your problem.  Are you really that insecure or bored or what.  Who gives a shit.  And where on that thread do say I am confident in this show  And you make it sound like he cancelled cause he didn't have the money or no sponsors.  Did you even read the story.  Ask someone to read it and then explain it to you.  Man I truly would hate to be you.  While you worry about Wayne and the PDI and Global fighting I am doing something you can only standback and envy about.  Oh yes!  Believe me when I say envy
Keith,

There is nothing wrong with me my friend. I am simply calling you on your mounds of sh*t. You are the first one to pick up the phone and call Wayne when something is announced. You're also the first one to make up an excuse each time his events don't happen. It happened last year when his amateur shows didn't happen and yet again with this show. 

I worry about you and your delusions Keith. Are you still claiming you'll be at the Olympia this year or has that too changed?

 :-*
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 18, 2007, 08:58:36 AM
Sounds like GFC managed to find every MMA scrub who is on the verge of dying to sign up or this card. More details from Sherdog.


Friday, August 17, 2007

by Andy Shapiro

UNCASVILLE, Conn., Aug. 17
-- The inaugural Global Fighting Championships card at Mohegan Sun Casino & Resort was cancelled Friday night after four of the eight scheduled bouts fell through.

Less than an hour before the preliminary fights were set to begin, hundreds of disappointed fans were turned away when Mohegan Sun officials announced the card's cancellation. No explanation was given, only a guarantee of a full refund.

GFC representative Joel Parker revealed that half of the night's fights were called off, prompting the decision to nix the card rather than put on a lackluster event. Parker did acknowledge that Edwin Dewees (Pictures), who was set to fight Mavrick Harvey (Pictures) for the newly created GFC middleweight belt, failed to make the contracted weight of 185 pounds.

Fans were not the only ones outside the Mohegan Sun Arena who voiced their displeasure.


"Half of the card, most of the main events were disqualified for medical reasons,"
said fighter Greg Mucci, who was scheduled to fight Andrey Nevski on the undercard. "I've seen this happen at other venues, where a fight is stopped, or a fight is cancelled, but never half the fights. It's ridiculous."

Mucci said efforts were made to pair the remaining eligible fighters with each other to salvage the event but in the end the card fell through. According to Mucci, the bout between Eric "Butterbean" Esch and Ruben Villareal (Pictures) was the only main card contest that was still viable.

Mixed martial arts agent Ken Pavia confirmed on Friday that Mark Kerr (Pictures) and Edwin Dewees (Pictures), both represented by Pavia, were pulled from the card by the overseeing athletic commission.

According to commission doctors, said Pavia, Kerr registered an unhealthy blood pressure reading on Thursday. Dewees, whom Pavia said cut 14 pounds in two and a half hours, was also removed when his blood pressure level was elevated. Dewees missed the middleweight title fight limit by six-tenths of a pound, but would have been able to fight a non-title bout had his blood pressure registered normal.

Mucci also indicated that one fighter, whom he declined to name for lack of details, pulled out "because he didn't want to take a drug test." Neither GFC promoters nor representatives of the Mohegan Tribe Department of Athletic Regulation could be reached for comment.

Parker said that GFC would likely make an official statement in the coming days regarding the reasons for the card's cancellation and any plans for future events.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Spicy Shushi on August 18, 2007, 09:22:25 AM
Sounds like GFC managed to find every MMA scrub who is on the verge of dying to sign up or this card. More details from Sherdog.


Friday, August 17, 2007

by Andy Shapiro

UNCASVILLE, Conn., Aug. 17
-- The inaugural Global Fighting Championships card at Mohegan Sun Casino & Resort was cancelled Friday night after four of the eight scheduled bouts fell through.

Less than an hour before the preliminary fights were set to begin, hundreds of disappointed fans  were turned away when Mohegan Sun officials announced the card's cancellation. No explanation was given, only a guarantee of a full refund.

Sounds like a real success. Although, in all fairness, that's ten times the turnout for a PDI event. 

Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Nordic Beast on August 18, 2007, 09:31:26 AM
That sucks for the fans. 
seriously

my pops went up there and stood in line for awhile with mad people before they decided to tell everyone it was cancelled

crazy huh
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 18, 2007, 09:43:11 AM
LOL @ high blood pressure.  Pussies.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: swilkins1984 on August 18, 2007, 09:44:11 AM
Wayne could always take another route into football, keep the GFC logo, and call it Global Football Championships. It would topple the NFL in a years time due to the untapped market of football players in Europe and Asia. Picture it football....with costumes  :o Million Billion dollar idea ;D
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: danielson on August 18, 2007, 09:48:22 AM
seriously

my pops went up there and stood in line for awhile with mad people before they decided to tell everyone it was cancelled

crazy huh
Exactly, fuck giving the fans their money back. This motherfuker should pay them 500 bucks a piece for ruining their Friday nights. What a pos this Demilia guy is >:(
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Special Ed on August 18, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
Exactly, fuck giving the fans their money back. This motherfuker should pay them 500 bucks a piece for ruining their Friday nights. What a pos this Demilia guy is >:(
For real, many people book rooms at the Mohegan for fights and Fri/Sat nights run upwards of $400/night. Factor in gas and food, and this weekend put several people out $1000 they would have had in their pocket.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Grundle on August 18, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
What a loser Demilia is, he couldnt promote food to starving people!  Major self ownage delivered on a platter to the boys at the IFBB.  Hey Wayne, I hear Qwiznos is hiring  ;D





P.S. Keith, just because you're stupid doesnt give you the right to be fat.  Do you know how many peoples days are ruined after they catch a glimpse of you stuffing your face at Sizzler? 
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: LatsMcGee on August 18, 2007, 01:02:17 PM
I guess if I had a ticket to that I would I be glad it got cancelled if all I got to see was Esch vs. Warpath.  Fuck both of those two guys.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 18, 2007, 01:24:12 PM
I gotta tell Issac something is truly wrong with you.  whats your problem.  Are you really that insecure or bored or what.  Who gives a shit.  And where on that thread do say I am confident in this show  And you make it sound like he cancelled cause he didn't have the money or no sponsors.  Did you even read the story.  Ask someone to read it and then explain it to you.  Man I truly would hate to be you.  While you worry about Wayne and the PDI and Global fighting I am doing something you can only standback and envy about.  Oh yes!  Believe me when I say envy

You bombarded this site with PDI and Wayne bullshit for the longest time, as a matter of fact some of us were worried your head was gonna explode over the PDI debacle.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 18, 2007, 06:34:20 PM
Cancelling one or two fights is one thing, it's happened before but an entire show. Be glad you weren't one who booked a room, flight and tickets for this one.

Kerr backed out of a fight 2 years ago in Denver. This guy should not be allowed to be on a card again.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: The Squadfather on August 18, 2007, 06:37:50 PM
Cancelling one or two fights is one thing, it's happened before but an entire show. Be glad you weren't one who booked a room, flight and tickets for this one.

Kerr backed out of a fight 2 years ago in Denver. This guy should not be allowed to be on a card again.
Mark Kerr was on that card?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 18, 2007, 09:39:31 PM
Exactly, Isaac is right, Keith could not stop hyping the PDI and Wayne a few months ago and how great this whole thing was, he's just getting now the backlash of its failure, you had to expect that.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: sgt. d on August 18, 2007, 09:46:24 PM
I love it     ;D
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 19, 2007, 08:26:16 AM
Cancelling one or two fights is one thing, it's happened before but an entire show. Be glad you weren't one who booked a room, flight and tickets for this one.

Kerr backed out of a fight 2 years ago in Denver. This guy should not be allowed to be on a card again.

Demilla's approach to MMA seemed very short term: find some past-their-prime fighters who still might be able to sell some tickets and put them all in a show, as opposed to creating an organization with hungry up and comers. Unfortunately for Wayne, the plan blew up in his face and now he's left with nothing. The poor slobs who showed up for this event certainly aren't going to allow themselves to get suckered again. Other MMA fans now know that this organization is a joke and won't support it.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on August 19, 2007, 10:28:34 AM
Looks like my $100 from onlyme is geeting closer. 240 . . . what was our bet again?

The beef
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: 240 is Back on August 19, 2007, 10:45:18 AM
Looks like my $100 from onlyme is geeting closer. 240 . . . what was our bet again?

The beef

Good points 240 . . . The Beef is willing to wait. Now, do you want in? Lets say a free web site if these contests don't come off/

The Beef


lol... last time I wagered, I lost to thisiskeith on the Mr Olympia and ended up owning him a website.  No thanks.  Gambling is a single/rich man's game.  I am neither.

I'd be happy to bet you ten pushups tho!

Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 19, 2007, 11:01:06 AM
Exactly, Isaac is right, Keith could not stop hyping the PDI and Wayne a few months ago and how great this whole thing was, he's just getting now the backlash of its failure, you had to expect that.

Hey correct me if I am wrong but the PDI had shows last year just like I said.  The gave away more prize money than 90% of all IFBB shows.  They have others scheduled for this year that so far look like they are happening.  If they don't then I still don't lose either way. This MMA shown had nothing to do with the PDI or am I wrong and you know something none of us know.  I could care less either way if anything happens I am not part of either organization.  You morons who have nothing in their lives (or at the most take photos) just want Wayne to fail cause you guys could never pull anything off close to anything so you want him to fail.  It would be great if everything went 100% great but in real life, not the dream lives you people live things happen. 

Some of us have the balls to at least try.  Then there are wannabes and people who are destined to do nothing and want everyone else to fail.  As much as Sean is an asshole and a punk I give him credit for at least doing his show.  You guys have no idea what it takes.  You guys just sit home play on the internet, read magazines and think you know everything.  A lot of talk from people who have done nothing.   Do you honestly think that means anything to me.  i love reading your dribble and typing out how stupid it looks when people like you react to something like this.  I have been there done that in just about every aspect you can think of.  So if it makes you feel better to blame me or say I am stupid or whatever then go ahead.  I am glad I can help you feel better.  I love it.  While I live the life I do and you live the life you have, believe me what you say doesn't phase me in the least.  hahaha, what a life you guys lead.  And the leader of the pack is never was photographer.  hahaha now that's funny. 
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: BEAST 8692 on August 19, 2007, 11:03:30 AM
all due respect to kerr, great fighter in his early days at vale tudo. the extra leniency back then helped kerr's...effective gnp style tremendously. the morphine before every fight helped a lot too. unfortunately, the fact that he wasn't feeling the injuries, doesn't mean they weren't occurring.

basically, something had to give so he abstained for a while. problem for kerr is that fighting without morphine just isn't the same (is anything the same when you've been addicted to morphine for so long) and he's been completely unreliable for over ten years.

fighting makes or breaks promoters because, if anyone is more unreliable than bbers, it's fighters and especially when said fighters are 'has beens' or 'never weres'.

demilla and the pdi? stick a fork in 'em, they're done.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 19, 2007, 11:03:32 AM
Demilla's approach to MMA seemed very short term: find some past-their-prime fighters who still might be able to sell some tickets and put them all in a show, as opposed to creating an organization with hungry up and comers. Unfortunately for Wayne, the plan blew up in his face and now he's left with nothing. The poor slobs who showed up for this event certainly aren't going to allow themselves to get suckered again. Other MMA fans now know that this organization is a joke and won't support it.


The whole PDI thing seemed focused on whatever money Wayne could scam from an "NOC" show or two moreso than building the foundations of an organization.

The fucckers still don't have a website, and their PR strategy seemed to be making sure as few people as possible knew anything about the PDI.  ::)
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Lift Studios on August 19, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
You're failing to mention the PDI "Pro Qualifying" show was cancelled last year. You claim you don't care, but you defend Wayne more than anyone on this board. You're also the first one to call him when you think you can get a jab back at the IFBB. You're the one who is still bitter and full of hate towards the NPC and IFBB. When you get called on your shit your tone changes and you claim you don't care. History will repeat itself and you'll open your big yap again around the time the PDI show is about to take place.

As big as you are I'd figure you to be a little less transparent Keith. Stick to what you do best, the cooks in the restaruant business thank you.



Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 19, 2007, 11:31:11 AM
You're failing to mention the PDI "Pro Qualifying" show was cancelled last year. You claim you don't care, but you defend Wayne more than anyone on this board. You're also the first one to call him when you think you can get a jab back at the IFBB. You're the one who is still bitter and full of hate towards the NPC and IFBB. When you get called on your shit your tone changes and you claim you don't care. History will repeat itself and you'll open your big yap again around the time the PDI show is about to take place.

As big as you are I'd figure you to be a little less transparent Keith. Stick to what you do best, the cooks in the restaruant business thank you.





hahaha, Lift stick to taking half ass photos and getting your jollys off at BB shows, cause you know nothing about me and what I do or know.   You are showing how truly stupid you are.  But hey, keep pretending if it helps your ego.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: CQ on August 19, 2007, 11:55:53 AM
Exactly, Isaac is right, Keith could not stop hyping the PDI and Wayne a few months ago and how great this whole thing was, he's just getting now the backlash of its failure, you had to expect that.

Keith, no offense, I am a big fan of yours but these points are valid. You made literally hundreds of posts bigging up the PDI, and the PDI has not delivered.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 19, 2007, 12:01:09 PM
Hey correct me if I am wrong but the PDI had shows last year just like I said.  The gave away more prize money than 90% of all IFBB shows.  They have others scheduled for this year that so far look like they are happening.  If they don't then I still don't lose either way. This MMA shown had nothing to do with the PDI or am I wrong and you know something none of us know.  I could care less either way if anything happens I am not part of either organization.  You morons who have nothing in their lives (or at the most take photos) just want Wayne to fail cause you guys could never pull anything off close to anything so you want him to fail.  It would be great if everything went 100% great but in real life, not the dream lives you people live things happen. 

Some of us have the balls to at least try.  Then there are wannabes and people who are destined to do nothing and want everyone else to fail.  As much as Sean is an asshole and a punk I give him credit for at least doing his show.  You guys have no idea what it takes.  You guys just sit home play on the internet, read magazines and think you know everything.  A lot of talk from people who have done nothing.   Do you honestly think that means anything to me.  i love reading your dribble and typing out how stupid it looks when people like you react to something like this.  I have been there done that in just about every aspect you can think of.  So if it makes you feel better to blame me or say I am stupid or whatever then go ahead.  I am glad I can help you feel better.  I love it.  While I live the life I do and you live the life you have, believe me what you say doesn't phase me in the least.  hahaha, what a life you guys lead.  And the leader of the pack is never was photographer.  hahaha now that's funny. 

hahaha, keep dancing around the issue that you suck off Wayne every chance you get fat man.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 19, 2007, 01:58:17 PM
Keith, no offense, I am a big fan of yours but these points are valid. You made literally hundreds of posts bigging up the PDI, and the PDI has not delivered.

Wayne is a friend of mine.  Wayne is going against the grain and taking a chance.  I like that.  I support my friends especially when they decide to do something that isn't easy and takes balls.  I hate people who talk shit like so many on here yet they have done nothing in their lives.  I have always found it funny how anyone can talk about something when they know nothing about it.  Most of these guys just talk shit and have no experience in anything they talk about or put down.  I have experience and I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in this industry.  These guys come on an internet board and think they are experts.  Now that is funny as hell.  I take this board now as a place to read stupid posts by stupid people in most cases.  There are some on here that have experience and now what they are taking about.  But, the majority on here are just idiots who have nothing else better to do.

hahaha, keep dancing around the issue that you suck off Wayne every chance you get fat man.

And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: sgt. d on August 19, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
Keith, no offense, I am a big fan of yours but these points are valid. You made literally hundreds of posts bigging up the PDI, and the PDI has not delivered.

hater
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: sgt. d on August 19, 2007, 02:37:28 PM
Wayne is a friend of mine.  Wayne is going against the grain and taking a chance.  I like that.  I support my friends especially when they decide to do something that isn't easy and takes balls.  I hate people who talk shit like so many on here yet they have done nothing in their lives.  I have always found it funny how anyone can talk about something when they know nothing about it.  Most of these guys just talk shit and have no experience in anything they talk about or put down.  I have experience and I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in this industry.  These guys come on an internet board and think they are experts.  Now that is funny as hell.  I take this board now as a place to read stupid posts by stupid people in most cases.  There are some on here that have experience and now what they are taking about.  But, the majority on here are just idiots who have nothing else better to do.

And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.

Onlyme what do you have planned for us? You said you was working on something big, what is it? ??? I have been thinking about this for days.


Sgt. D
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Mr.Diet on August 19, 2007, 03:03:14 PM
Wayne is a friend of mine.  Wayne is going against the grain and taking a chance.  I like that.  I support my friends especially when they decide to do something that isn't easy and takes balls.  I hate people who talk shit like so many on here yet they have done nothing in their lives.  I have always found it funny how anyone can talk about something when they know nothing about it.  Most of these guys just talk shit and have no experience in anything they talk about or put down.  I have experience and I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in this industry.  These guys come on an internet board and think they are experts.  Now that is funny as hell.  I take this board now as a place to read stupid posts by stupid people in most cases.  There are some on here that have experience and now what they are taking about.  But, the majority on here are just idiots who have nothing else better to do.

And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.
You have absolutely right ;)!
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 19, 2007, 03:35:39 PM


And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.

Yes, a man of your girth needs the help of buoyancy ever chance he can get.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: JasonH on August 19, 2007, 03:43:44 PM
Hey correct me if I am wrong but the PDI had shows last year just like I said.  The gave away more prize money than 90% of all IFBB shows.  They have others scheduled for this year that so far look like they are happening.  If they don't then I still don't lose either way. This MMA shown had nothing to do with the PDI or am I wrong and you know something none of us know.  I could care less either way if anything happens I am not part of either organization.  You morons who have nothing in their lives (or at the most take photos) just want Wayne to fail cause you guys could never pull anything off close to anything so you want him to fail.  It would be great if everything went 100% great but in real life, not the dream lives you people live things happen. 

Some of us have the balls to at least try.  Then there are wannabes and people who are destined to do nothing and want everyone else to fail.  As much as Sean is an asshole and a punk I give him credit for at least doing his show.  You guys have no idea what it takes.  You guys just sit home play on the internet, read magazines and think you know everything.  A lot of talk from people who have done nothing.   Do you honestly think that means anything to me.  i love reading your dribble and typing out how stupid it looks when people like you react to something like this.  I have been there done that in just about every aspect you can think of.  So if it makes you feel better to blame me or say I am stupid or whatever then go ahead.  I am glad I can help you feel better.  I love it.  While I live the life I do and you live the life you have, believe me what you say doesn't phase me in the least.  hahaha, what a life you guys lead.  And the leader of the pack is never was photographer.  hahaha now that's funny. 

It's true what Onlyme says - most of the guys on here are all talk and no action - hiding behind their computers with thier dicks in their hands spouting off their "opinions" with little or no real life experience to back up their words. At least the PDI are giving it a go which isn't easy up against the IFBB - give the guy a break FFS.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Grundle on August 19, 2007, 03:45:18 PM

And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.


Keith,

You go scuba diving? In the open ocean?  Don't you run a serious risk of being harpooned by Japanese whale poachers?
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Special Ed on August 19, 2007, 04:37:15 PM
Wayne is a friend of mine.  Wayne is going against the grain and taking a chance.  I like that.  I support my friends especially when they decide to do something that isn't easy and takes balls.  I hate people who talk shit like so many on here yet they have done nothing in their lives.  I have always found it funny how anyone can talk about something when they know nothing about it.  Most of these guys just talk shit and have no experience in anything they talk about or put down.  I have experience and I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in this industry.  These guys come on an internet board and think they are experts.  Now that is funny as hell.  I take this board now as a place to read stupid posts by stupid people in most cases.  There are some on here that have experience and now what they are taking about.  But, the majority on here are just idiots who have nothing else better to do.

And you are?  Exactly another moron with a big mouth.  Keep flipping the burgers and going to gay bars at night, you'll make it someday. ::)  Outta here, going diving today.  Have fun cleaning out the barn.
Keith,

Serious question because you're somebody who knows.
1) When a promoter books an expensive venue like Mohegan Sun, purchases insurance, spends money on promotion and advertising, pays travel expenses for the athletes and their entourages, and the event fails to come off, approximately how much money does the promoter lose?
2) Even if 3 of the 8 bouts were cancelled, what sense does it make calling off the event hours before the gates open?
3) Either way, the customers who bought tickets are feeling ripped off, so can we assume that cancelling the event saves SOME money for the promoter?
4) Having cancelled their first MMA show under the GFC name, is it possible to come back using the same name in this day and age of internet gossip and word of the cancellation spreading globally?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: onlyme on August 19, 2007, 07:46:22 PM
Keith,

Serious question because you're somebody who knows.
1) When a promoter books an expensive venue like Mohegan Sun, purchases insurance, spends money on promotion and advertising, pays travel expenses for the athletes and their entourages, and the event fails to come off, approximately how much money does the promoter lose?
2) Even if 3 of the 8 bouts were cancelled, what sense does it make calling off the event hours before the gates open?
3) Either way, the customers who bought tickets are feeling ripped off, so can we assume that cancelling the event saves SOME money for the promoter?
4) Having cancelled their first MMA show under the GFC name, is it possible to come back using the same name in this day and age of internet gossip and word of the cancellation spreading globally?

Thanks!




Not sure how serious you are because I think things like this you would know.

1.  You can purchase event insurance.  If not I would say you lose everything you spent.  Not sure how much the Sun cost but my venue cost $48,000 for 2 days.  ANd that is just for an empty shell.  you have convention services for the booths, setup chairs, security, shipping, steerage and other costs.  I am pretty sure Wayne didn't do this show to cancel it and lose all this money.  But, the guys who think he did re the same idiots who have never done anything.
2.  I think this was a bad call.  there has to have been some local fighters or someone nearby that would take a fight at a short notice.  He made a huge stake cancelling and I bet there will be some legal action taken.  WHo knows.
3. I would think if he cancelled the show the ticket company may refund the price but not sure.  Generally I think refunds would only occur from acts of god
4. Boy not sure.  I think he is going to be in for a rough ride.  he should do a free show and try to get good fighters in, try to absorb costs with sponsors or his own money.  But to try and put another show on and charge is going to be very hard.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 19, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
Not sure how serious you are because I think things like this you would know.

2.  I think this was a bad call.  there has to have been some local fighters or someone nearby that would take a fight at a short notice.  He made a huge stake cancelling and I bet there will be some legal action taken.  WHo knows.


I was thinking this myself. Most people who go to MMA aren't familiar with many of the fighters they see. So, putting some unknowns on the card wouldn't have been disasterous. Sometimes, the unknowns put on a better show than the big names. Demillia could've offered the customers a choice of a refund or seeing the show at a reduced price. IMO almost everyone there would've stayed. But, to cancel the first show, the expression "You don't get a second chance to make a first impression" comes to mind.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Special Ed on August 19, 2007, 10:32:33 PM
Not sure how serious you are because I think things like this you would know.

1.  You can purchase event insurance.  If not I would say you lose everything you spent.  Not sure how much the Sun cost but my venue cost $48,000 for 2 days.  ANd that is just for an empty shell.  you have convention services for the booths, setup chairs, security, shipping, steerage and other costs.  I am pretty sure Wayne didn't do this show to cancel it and lose all this money.  But, the guys who think he did re the same idiots who have never done anything.
2.  I think this was a bad call.  there has to have been some local fighters or someone nearby that would take a fight at a short notice.  He made a huge stake cancelling and I bet there will be some legal action taken.  WHo knows.
3. I would think if he cancelled the show the ticket company may refund the price but not sure.  Generally I think refunds would only occur from acts of god
4. Boy not sure.  I think he is going to be in for a rough ride.  he should do a free show and try to get good fighters in, try to absorb costs with sponsors or his own money.  But to try and put another show on and charge is going to be very hard.
Thanks Keith. I was being serious. I don't know much about the costs of staging events like this. So if insurance covers everything, then you're saying that Wayne probably only lost his insurance premium of a couple grand.
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: kiwiol on August 20, 2007, 05:04:50 AM
Yes, a man of your girth needs the help of buoyancy ever chance he can get.

Are you saying when Onlymen tells you to flip burgers, he's talking about this one cause he feels like a snack, BD? ;D
Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: BEAST 8692 on August 20, 2007, 07:45:57 AM
onlyme

i agree with a lot of what you're saying and i respect your loyalty to your friend, but as you say wayne made a bad mistake.

now forgive me because i don't know wayne from a bar of soap, but i just see shit promotion written all over this.

1. promoting something you know very little about.

2. signing some of the most unreliable fighters in the business (refer point 1).

3. not keeping the fans abreast of what was happening until last minute.

4. hopelessly inadequate promoting and communication with the actual fighters. this is extremely important because fighters are generally pretty insecure to start with, but i know how a pro fighter thinks and fighters as a rule would trust an ex bbing promoter as cold as demilla comes across less than they would trust a murderer. case in point, don king. guys like king and white treat their fighters like their children, whether they are sincere or not, good fight promoters keep REGULAR CONTACT WITH THE FIGHTERS and practically blow them to earn their trust. i'm sure you remember king practically adopting tyson and moving him into his own house (funnily enough, just like d'amato did - 'fighters are like children' ;)) it seems unbelievable to me given all the talk of demilla's promoting skills that he didn't pull out all the stops on this one, given it was his 1st mma show and that he would be judged by it (first impressions)

5. a fighter is as good as his last fight (especially to mma fans). a local fighter with a zero record could make fans instantly by simply fighting his heart out on the night. hell fans will watch 2 bums on the street if they see two guys with a heart beat (again, refer point 1).

not being negative keith, you know i respect you but, as i said, i don't know wayne so maybe you can shed some light on what's up with him ???

Title: Re: Demilia's MMA Event Cancelled
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 20, 2007, 08:16:59 AM
Are you saying when Onlymen tells you to flip burgers, he's talking about this one cause he feels like a snack, BD? ;D

I'm saying that there is no ice melting causing water levels to rise, it's just Onlyme going diving.