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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Dreamer on September 04, 2007, 05:37:07 PM
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Edit: I didn't create this thread some idiot registered here under my name and impersonationg me. Had to get ron to convert it back to me. Below is what the idiot wrote. I guess he was just hoping to flame bait everyone. Read through this thread and you will see my actual thoughts about my bulk. Overall i'm not happy with this bulk and i'm taking the correct steps to fix it.
"After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not."
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do you get a lot of girls saying your hot?
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welcome to the thunderdome bitch. ;D
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this should be good....... ;D
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On the street, he is known as lil' dreamer.
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Welcome to Getbig, bro! Glad to see you are still alive! ;D
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What happened to him? Specifically?
He got an awsome tribute post of him deleted by out of control mods! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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hahahahaha!
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mates? hi Kiwiol aka joey tito aka arvin avasu aka oracle.
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I don't get the punchline.. Is this a joke?
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before picture was better
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kind of looks like a fat Val Kilmer in the face in the before shot.
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kind of looks like a fat Val Kilmer in the face in the before shot.
Val Kilmer after several botox injections, acne and bug bites, and that just covers the face. ;D
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Val Kilmer after several botox injections, acne and bug bites, and that just covers the face. ;D
hahahhaa, i think being from jolly old England explains the complexion.
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Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
No way I call gimmick! However the above line could be legit in which case he has a lot to learn if he's gonna be hanging out here.
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DREAMER IS GOD!
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Honestly the only bulking i saw in your pics MATE is on your chin!
Mix in some workout routine with your bulk meals
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This is fake.
I believe these are actually Squadfathers baby pictures.
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No way I call gimmick! However the above line could be legit in which case he has a lot to learn if he's gonna be hanging out here.
He IS from teenbodybuilding afterall. Aww, what a shock it will be when he can't neg any of the "haters".
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
Welcome, Dreamer , PM Ron for your stars.
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
This kid must be on the Squadfather workout plan.
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Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
You're new around here, ain'tcha? ::)
You and Billy Guns can share a tampon.
Welcome, BITCH:
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PM Ron for your stars.
As long as he's not Black and from South Carolina, he's got a shot! ;D
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Poison. Buy poison. Drink poison. Thank you.
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mates? hi Kiwiol aka joey tito aka arvin avasu aka oracle.
Oh crap, you busted him on his first thread. ;D
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Poison. Buy poison. Drink poison. Thank you.
Vince G can help him out... I hear he's got crates and crates of expired Magic Stick out in his woodshed.
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Ignore the hatred, bro. You made a change and that's all that matters. What was your training and diet like? I'm a very super skinny guy myself and would love to change like that. thanks.
Pete.
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if this is not a gimmick ;)
man, much better in the before pic, all you've gain is fat and water.......
question is: when do you start training?
welcome to hell neckboy ;D
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What happened to him? Specifically?
Naive noob ventures onto getbig with absolutely no clue about the way things work around here...
What do you think happened? ;D
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keep the dreamer quotes coming he is an enigma
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
YOU MAKE ME PROUD TO BE FROM AUSTRALIA.
KEEP POSTING HERE!
"KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE!"
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Edit: Not my post either.
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your strait up ugly bro
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......I am trying to lose fat and keep as much muscle as possible.
.......muscles......... where ???.... all you have is fat :-\
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I will post progress pics as I have begun cutting. I am trying to lose fat and keep as much muscle as possible.
Dreamer which afl team do u go for?
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dare to dream that dream
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gimmick bitch
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Wouldn't it be nice to log on here one day
without a load of shit threads started by crap gimmicks ::)
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
Welcome! :D
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
who the fuck are you and why should we care
btw, you look disgusting. Clear that horrible acne
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Obviously a gimmick, only an american impersonating a brit/aussie would use the word mates in this context
"I dont care what you mates say about my bulk"
No english or australian ive ever known would say it that way
Dont care if this helps
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Obviously a gimmick, only an american impersonating a brit/aussie would use the word mates in this context
"I dont care what you mates say about my bulk"
No english or australian ive ever known would say it that way
Dont care if this helps
What about some one from New Zealand? ;)
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What about some one from New Zealand? ;)
Same there too mates
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Did dreamer really die from a brutal overdose of hydroxycut hardcore?
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Did dreamer really die from a brutal overdose of hydroxycut hardcore?
The coroner's report indicated that he had taken it so hardcore extreme maddog style that his body was permenantly stuck in a most-muscular pose.
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The coroner's report indicated that he had taken it so hardcore extreme maddog style that his body was permenantly stuck in a most-muscular pose.
So sad
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Same there too mates
Come down to the V mate!
::) ::) ::)
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Brutal Gimmick.
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Some Idiot registered here imposing me. I did not create this thread. I spoke to the owners of this board or wateva and got the account fixed. To say the least. I do not think my bulk was successful and i'm currently cutting.
Already lost 6 kgs. Once i get back to around 8-10% body fat i'll proceed to clean bulk properly and more effective. I can see that this board has alot of enjoyment out of flaming me for trying to make a change in my body.
Well yes i did it wrong, but yes i can try again. I will also provide progress pictures to this board aswell for those that are actually interested in my progress in cutting.
Cheers.
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Some Idiot registered here imposing me. I did not create this thread. I spoke to the owners of this board or wateva and got the account fixed.
Ron? Any truth to this? ???
Is this guy the REAL Dreamer? Someone said he was dead. ???
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Massive Gimmick
ron........ yes or no!
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i don't understand this gimmick thing? what are you talking about?
Also ron will clarify that there was an imposter if and when he reads this.
As for now here is a picture of me before i'm about to goto bed. I'm sure i'll get flamed for it. But atleast you know its me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/dreamer.jpg)
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Ok, but because you're wearing the same shirt as in all your other pics, it's hard to believe. Best way to prove it's you is to hold up a sign saying "Getbig rocks!" or something.
Looking a bit better around the face and neck. Keep on the diet.
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i don't understand this gimmick thing? what are you talking about?
Also ron will clarify that there was an imposter if and when he reads this.
As for now here is a picture of me before i'm about to goto bed. I'm sure i'll get flamed for it. But atleast you know its me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/dreamer.jpg)
You are a good looking dude. Don't let all the haters get you down.
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Yeah went out with a mate tonight and its his 19th birthday and thats my favourite shirt so yeah lol. I tell you what, going out to a club and not drinking is the worst experience ever.
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Yeah went out with a mate tonight and its his 19th birthday and thats my favourite shirt so yeah lol. I tell you what, going out to a club and not drinking is the worst experience ever.
Did you at least take some E or other recreational drugs?
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don't want to hate but you should do something against your acne
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don't want to hate but you should do something against your acne
No! Pissing it off could be dangerous.
Besides, he needs all the testosterone he has and it's a natural side effect.
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don't want to hate but you should do something against your acne
Girls are going to be into his build, so it doesn't really matter.
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Girls are going to be into his build, so it doesn't really matter.
exactly.
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Yeah went out with a mate tonight and its his 19th birthday and thats my favourite shirt so yeah lol. I tell you what, going out to a club and not drinking is the worst experience ever.
Dude, you're 19. Forget about all this bodybuilding shit. Get drunk and try to bang fat chicks.
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don't want to hate but you should do something against your acne
I've tried numerous things. Pro-active, Mincolin or watever its called (there tablets). The next step is something that could possibly cause infertility and kidney problems. So i really don't wanna risk it. I'm 18.. so if its still there by the latest of about 22 then i might change my mind and try the next step up. But for the moment doesn't bother the missus or myself so i'll accept it for the time being.
LOL no sorry. I've never taken E or any drug similar including MJ. I don't like to drink either. Probably drink about 4 times a year max. As for some reason it has a really big effect on my strength gains at the gym. Considering i'm not very strong anyways i really like to keep any strength i can get.
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maybe lowering your protein intake will help?
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Protein intake has nothing to do with acne. Its due to hormones. Food has very little effect on acne at all. I could eat chocolate all day and it really wouldn't make my acne any worse. Altho i might have oily skin and another 3 chins but thats about all that would change.
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You are a good looking dude. Don't let all the haters get you down.
lol, you are cruel
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LOL no sorry. I've never taken E or any drug similar including MJ. I don't like to drink either. Probably drink about 4 times a year max. As for some reason it has a really big effect on my strength gains at the gym. Considering i'm not very strong anyways i really like to keep any strength i can get.
Fuck being strong, you have a shitty build and an ugly face, I am not going to lie. You are 18, have some fun and get drunk a few times a week. Don't get caught up in this stupid clean lifestyle, working out is great, it may even get you laid, although the way you look I doubt it. Get drunk, take some drugs, by all means find a lucrative career and have some fun.
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Protein intake has nothing to do with acne. Its due to hormones. Food has very little effect on acne at all. I could eat chocolate all day and it really wouldn't make my acne any worse. Altho i might have oily skin and another 3 chins but thats about all that would change.
I have oily skins also, I find that drinking tons of water helps...also do not use any kind of cream or lotion on your face. They only block the pores with causes dirt to accumulate and thus product pimples.
also oddly enough doing cardio helps, you perspire which clears the pores.
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Hey mate you ever been to a gym?
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Fuck being strong, you have a shitty build and an ugly face, I am not going to lie. You are 18, have some fun and get drunk a few times a week. Don't get caught up in this stupid clean lifestyle, working out is great, it may even get you laid, although the way you look I doubt it. Get drunk, take some drugs, by all means find a lucrative career and have some fun.
;D
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Fuck being strong, you have a shitty build and an ugly face, I am not going to lie. You are 18, have some fun and get drunk a few times a week. Don't get caught up in this stupid clean lifestyle, working out is great, it may even get you laid, although the way you look I doubt it. Get drunk, take some drugs, by all means find a lucrative career and have some fun.
Yeah. Thats just not the life style i like.
I have a girlfriend soon to be finance. So clubbing etc isnt really what i'm into. Gym is. Even though it probably doesn't look like it, looking at my progress pictures. But yeah. I'm not exactly a depressed person. Just unhappy with my results.
i mean my missus isn't too bad on the eyes i don't think. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/leah.jpg) Anyways i might head off to bed catchya later fellas.
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Fuck being strong, you have a shitty build and an ugly face, I am not going to lie. You are 18, have some fun and get drunk a few times a week. Don't get caught up in this stupid clean lifestyle, working out is great, it may even get you laid, although the way you look I doubt it. Get drunk, take some drugs, by all means find a lucrative career and have some fun.
Word.
take Danielson's advice kid, enjoy yourself
Don't turn into the next Billy Guns or worse
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Yeah. Thats just not the life style i like.
I have a girlfriend soon to be finance. So clubbing etc isnt really what i'm into. Gym is. Even though it probably doesn't look like it, looking at my progress pictures. But yeah. I'm not exactly a depressed person. Just unhappy with my results.
i mean my missus isn't too bad on the eyes i don't think. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/leah.jpg) Anyways i might head off to bed catchya later fellas.
She would look better under the influence, trust me.
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I have a girlfriend soon to be finance.
At 19!? Brutally bad judgement!
Do not buy the cow, I repeat, do not buy the cow!
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Well you certainly got the finance part correct. Yes, must be nice to be 18 and already know that you're going to marry this girl. Way to predict your own future. Workout harder mate.
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dreamer can pull much better pussy.
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At 19!? Brutally bad judgement!
Do not buy the cow, I repeat, do not buy the cow!
even better advice ;D
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Yeah went out with a mate tonight and its his 19th birthday and thats my favourite shirt so yeah lol. I tell you what, going out to a club and not drinking is the worst experience ever.
Hahahah, same gimmick, new strategy. Hi Kiwol! ;D
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Hahahah, same gimmick, new strategy. Hi Kiwol! ;D
Can someone explain why people keep saying gimmick. I really don't understand it...
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Can someone explain why people keep saying gimmick. I really don't understand it...
I really hope you are not a gimmick.
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I really hope you are not a gimmick.
I don't get what you mean by gimmick. Is it that you don't think i am who i say i am or... i dunno. i'm confused.
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Confused white boy with the brothas volume 4
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I don't get what you mean by gimmick. Is it that you don't think i am who i say i am or... i dunno. i'm confused.
Most people who are as ugly as you don't post pics. It is just hard to believe that someone who looks that horrible would open themselves up to this type of abuse.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/aurey_okeefe/leah.jpg)
I'd tear this girls a$$ apart. She looks like she'd be into some double dipping. a$$...pu$$y...a$$...pu$$y....
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Dreamer,
get hammerer and Bang your girl with Reckless abandon ....would be a great cardio workout for your cut
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she looks like the type of a girl who is into sex with dogs.
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Dreamer,
What's your favorite porn site??
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I really hope you are not a gimmick.
Me too, it's just too good to beleive though. :'(
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www.book-mark.net/mark (http://www.book-mark.net/mark)
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Sounds like you've got a fetish for dogs if anything.
I don't know how you got that impression from her photo but ok...
I would say this is not a gimmick but actions speak louder then words. So i'll post my cut later on. When i'm at about 8-10%
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Dreamer, if I was you, I would get her knocked up a.s.ap.
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just kidding with you big man ;D
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Hey listen up kid.......you have little to no muscle, plus your fat. Your in desperate need of psychological help.
Hope this helps.
I didn't write that post or the original Niether did i create this thread. Some idiot registered under my name and i had to get ron to change it back over for me.
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(http://www.tonyskansascity.com/tonyskansascity/chestheadphones.jpg)
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(http://www.tonyskansascity.com/tonyskansascity/chestheadphones.jpg)
i would love to live between her tits
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(http://www.tonyskansascity.com/tonyskansascity/chestheadphones.jpg)
She got a name?
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(http://www.tonyskansascity.com/tonyskansascity/trophykissoncemore.jpg)
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for the acne try drinking lots of water, get some natural sun, and showering at night instead of the morning. and if you eat fried foods, stop.
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for the acne try drinking lots of water, get some natural sun, and showering at night instead of the morning. and if you eat fried foods, stop.
food has nothing to do with acne
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(http://cdn.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/animal_babies18.jpg)
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Yo Dreamer, why did you bulk up if you don't even lift weights. You look like a fat pudgy 7th grader.
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Yo Dreamer, why did you bulk up if you don't even lift weights. You look like a fat pudgy 7th grader.
Where did you get the impression that i don't lift weights. Or is that just intended to be an insult.
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I get the impression you dont lift weights from the fat all over your body and the way you look.
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Dreamer stand tall :)
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Where did you get the impression that i don't lift weights. Or is that just intended to be an insult.
Post some more pics of your sweet heart. What kind of woman is she?
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you are fat
ugly
poor
unpopular
and unsuccessful
hope this helps
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Dreamer, is this your twin brother?
(http://doraj.com/wp-images/2005/08/i-fuck-on-the-first-date.jpg)
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Dreamer, is this your twin brother?
(http://doraj.com/wp-images/2005/08/i-fuck-on-the-first-date.jpg)
nope its not.
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Post some more pics of your sweet heart. What kind of woman is she?
Yeah post some body shots. How's her ass look?
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Dreamer, what did your girl say when you were piling on the pounds? Didn't she tell you that you were getting fat?
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Dreamer, what did your girl say when you were piling on the pounds? Didn't she tell you that you were getting fat?
Yeah she knew. I knew. But she understood that it was something i wanted to do. I said to her. Once i get to 90kg i will shave off all the fat and be better than when i started. In truth i will be. But i could of had a lot better results with a better diet. So i dare say i'll be around 75 kgs cut. Which is still a 15kg increase in mass in 1.5 years. So it wasn't like i am going to stay fat. Also she wouldn't of cared if i gained another 9kgs putting me too 100kg. Shes not that shallow and niether am i.
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dreamer can pull much better pussy.
she looks fine.
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So she didn't tell you that you were looking good? I'm trying to understand what made you decide to keep on bulking.
Did you really eat a packet of chicken rice every couple of hours? Someone posted that as your diet.
Also, what was your workout like?
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Can you explain your Androgel cycle again. On for 2 weeks off 4 weeks. Taper down after a week?
I forgot what you said.
Thanks
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Can you explain your Androgel cycle again. On for 2 weeks off 4 weeks. Taper down after a week?
I forgot what you said.
Thanks
Was Dreamer on hormones?! Seems believable given his drive to succeed.
Speak on this Dreamer.
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Dreamer you need to do something to change your training. After 1.5 years you don't even look like you train. Plenty of us made mistakes with our diet early on but the hard training will always show. I would possibly train with someone more experienced for a few sessions because your physique does not show any serious lifting going on.
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I was under the impression the amount of bodyfat i gained was normal. So i didn't really expect to be all that great looking while on my bulk. But i learned from my mistakes. Anyways here was my old diet and workout routine.
My Diet Consisted of:
Monday - Friday:
1st meal:
7 weet bix 2 eggs and glass of milk
2nd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
3rd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
4th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
5th Meal:
3 eggs and glass of milk or water
6th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
7th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
8th Meal:
7 weetbix 2 eggs and glass of milk
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9th meal Whole large chicken and glass of milk or water
Saturday and Sunday
Consisted of anything i felt like really.
Whole chickens, Rump steaks, Weetbix and occasionally cheat meals.
My old workout is as Follows:
-Monday-
Chest/Triceps
Incline Dumbbell Flyes 3 x 4-6
Flat Bench 3 x 4-6
Incline Bench 3 x 4-6
Dips 3 x 4-6
Close Grip bench 3 x 4-6
-Tuesday-
Back and Biceps:
Under hand Chin-ups 3 x 4-6
Dead lifts 3 x 4-6
Hammer Dumbbell Curls 3 x 4-6
Barbell Curls 3 x 4-6
One arm dumbbell rows 3 x 4-6
Using it as a super set with:
Ground Seated Cable Rows 3 x 4-6
-Wednesday-
Legs:
Leg Press 3 x 4-6
Squats 3 x 4-6
Lying Leg Curls 3 x 4-6
Seated Calf Raises 3 x 4-6
-Thursday-
Shoulders and Traps:
Seated Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3 x 4-6
Dumbbell lateral Raises 3 x 4-6 (using drop sets with this exercise)
Barbell Upright Row 3 x 4-6
Lying Incline Deltoid Raise 3 x 4-6
Barbell Shrugs 3 x 4-6 (Using Drop sets with this exercise)
Friday:
I use this day to give special attention to any muscles that require it. I Also do abs
Currently i need more leg drive for my deadlifts so I'm incorporating another leg day.
Squats 3 x 4-6
Leg Press 3 x 4-6
Weighted Crunches 3 x 10-12
Hanging leg raises 3 x 10-12
Weighted side bends 3 x 10-12
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Was Dreamer on hormones?! Seems believable given his drive to succeed.
Speak on this Dreamer.
I don't actually understand what you mean by this.
The supplements i have taken in the past have been.
Nlarge2
CytoGainer
No-explode
Animal Stak 2
Animal Pak
Anator p70
Glutamine
HigherPower Creatine
At the moment my supplements are:
Max Protein Lean
Higher Power - Creatine
Fish Oil tablets
(i ran out of Animal pak. But going to re-order)
Thats pretty much it.
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Thanks for posting up your diet and split. I'm sure you'll get some feedback. I'd say you're high on calories but low on protein each meal (2,3,4,6,7). Drop the high GI carbs like white rice and replace with low GI carbs like oatmeal. Take some time to plan your food this time around 'cause you really screwed it up.
You'd do better with a 3 days/week 1 hour whole body routine using compound lifts with weights which see you fail in the 8-12 range.
You liked the Animal Pak by the sound of it. What did you think of the others? Which ones would you advise?
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Thanks for posting up your diet and split. I'm sure you'll get some feedback. I'd say you're high on calories but low on protein each meal (2,3,4,6,7). Drop the high GI carbs like white rice and replace with low GI carbs like oatmeal. Take some time to plan your food this time around 'cause you really screwed it up.
You'd do better with a 3 days/week 1 hour whole body routine using compound lifts with weights which see you fail in the 8-12 range.
You liked the Animal Pak by the sound of it. What did you think of the others? Which ones would you advise?
The routine and diet is what i used in my unsuccessful bulk.
My current Routine and diet are in my 3 weeks progress thread. I think its about 2 weeks old. So i've lost about 2-3 kgs since then.
Heres the link.
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DREAMER IS ON THE RIGHT PATH NOW....JUST WAIT AND SEE HIS RESULTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
DREAMER AND D.L.5 WILL SHOW U ALL ;) ;D
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I don't actually understand what you mean by this.
The supplements i have taken in the past have been.
Nlarge2
CytoGainer
No-explode
Animal Stak 2
Animal Pak
Anator p70
Glutamine
HigherPower Creatine
At the moment my supplements are:
Max Protein Lean
Higher Power - Creatine
Fish Oil tablets
(i ran out of Animal pak. But going to re-order)
Thats pretty much it.
Monster waste of money....
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Where did you get the impression that i don't lift weights. Or is that just intended to be an insult.
Dreamer, in all honesty for having been at it a year and a half it really doesn't look like you've gained much muscle at all, you've just gotten fat. Your program clearly needs some adjustments if you're going to get the progress you want, and it might help to get someone who knows what he's doing to work with you and see what changes need to be made.
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Nlarge2 - Wasn't all that crash hot. Was average. I wouldn't buy again.
CytoGainer - Was great. Might get again during a bulk if i need the extra calories.
No-explode - a gimmick. It gave me a buzz for about the first 2-3 months then my body adapted and it didn't work. Obviously i just decided to take more each time hoping for the buzz to return. But all that happened was i felt bloated when working out. Also got cramps. Defiantly a waste of money after your body adapts. Over-priced also.
Animal Stak 2 - Was just stupid of me to get this considering i'm 18 and my test levels are already high. I did actually notice some strength gains when using this for the first few months. But that could also be due to the placebo effect from just taking it. Waste of money.
Animal Pak - Good overall product. Gives me no strength benefits. Just good for health in long run.
Anator p70 - I didn't notice anything at all with this product. Nothing at all. I have a tub and a half left. So i guess i'll use it when i bulk again. But i defiantly wouldn't buy again.
Glutamine - A gimmick. nothing more really.
HigherPower - Good source of creatine. Will Continue to buy.
Fish oil Tablets - Good for health and joints. Will continue to buy
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The link didn't display... strange. Anyways heres what i've been doing recently.
htt p://forum.bodybuild ing.com/showthread.php?t=4283773 Remove the spaces.
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Nlarge2 - Wasn't all that crash hot. Was average. I wouldn't buy again.
CytoGainer - Was great. Might get again during a bulk if i need the extra calories.
No-explode - a gimmick. It gave me a buzz for about the first 2-3 months then my body adapted and it didn't work. Obviously i just decided to take more each time hoping for the buzz to return. But all that happened was i felt bloated when working out. Also got cramps. Defiantly a waste of money after your body adapts. Over-priced also.
Animal Stak 2 - Was just stupid of me to get this considering i'm 18 and my test levels are already high. I did actually notice some strength gains when using this for the first few months. But that could also be due to the placebo effect from just taking it. Waste of money.
Animal Pak - Good overall product. Gives me no strength benefits. Just good for health in long run.
Anator p70 - I didn't notice anything at all with this product. Nothing at all. I have a tub and a half left. So i guess i'll use it when i bulk again. But i defiantly wouldn't buy again.
Glutamine - A gimmick. nothing more really.
HigherPower - Good source of creatine. Will Continue to buy.
Fish oil Tablets - Good for health and joints. Will continue to buy
Don't even think of bulking again, for at least 3 years..... :-\
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The link didn't display... strange. Anyways heres what i've been doing recently.
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That thread you state you are not going to come here. >:(
And quit flushing your money down the toilet on those worthless supplements.
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Dreamer is the victim of Flex magazine and the bodybuilding.com message boards. His prior workout routine and supps is textbook bodybuilding.com message boards. His diet, in terms of caloric intake, is right out of Flex magazine (4,000+ cals a day to bulk while not on gear).
Your at-the-moment supps are all you need, and don't bother reordering animal pak. It's just a multivitamin marketed with a guy wearing a wifebeater and skullcap. Truth is you don't even need the multivitamin. Multi's were thought of for people who were not going to be eating well enough, not bodybuilders whose entire staple is a healthy diet. Glutamine is just for guys who want to believe that the powder they spent $30 bucks on actually does something, when the preponderance of the evidence flies in the face of this. The current state of bodybuilding supplements today is one that plays off insecurities and placebo effects, and it clearly does it very well.
"You'd do better with a 3 days/week 1 hour whole body routine using compound lifts with weights which see you fail in the 8-12 range."
This is right. Also, I noticed this on that bodybuilding.com link you posted:
"Dude please dont ever visit www.getbig.com/boards everyone there has been ripping you a new butthole...so I'd advise you to steer clear. If you really want help with your cut man, send me a pm and I'll see what I can do for you..."
Let me see if I understand this. He wants you to stay clear of getbig, which is full of people who call bullshit on all of the workout and supplement propaganda, and stay on bodybuilding.com, which is what got you to where you are in the first place?
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lol why do you have me as your avatar. haha.
I've never read a flex magazine in my life. i just use the net.
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That thread you state you are not going to come here. >:(
And quit flushing your money down the toilet on those worthless supplements.
Yes i did state that. I came here solely because some idiot made an account and pretended to be me. I actually didn't make this thread. But when i did come here to fix the account and announce that there was someone impersonating me on my account. People have matured and majority are not flaming me.. atleast anymore. So i'm more then happy to join this board.
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Dreamer is the victim of Flex magazine and the bodybuilding.com message boards. His prior workout routine and supps is textbook bodybuilding.com message boards. His diet, in terms of caloric intake, is right out of Flex magazine (4,000+ cals a day to bulk while not on gear).
Your at-the-moment supps are all you need, and don't bother reordering animal pak. It's just a multivitamin marketed with a guy wearing a wifebeater and skullcap. Truth is you don't even need the multivitamin. Multi's were thought of for people who were not going to be eating well enough, not bodybuilders whose entire staple is a healthy diet. Glutamine is just for guys who want to believe that the powder they spent $30 bucks on actually does something, when the preponderance of the evidence flies in the face of this. The current state of bodybuilding supplements today is one that plays off insecurities and placebo effects, and it clearly does it very well.
I disagree about multivitimins. The average bodybuilding diet consists of a lot of chicken and starchy carbs, but nowhere near enough vegetables and fruits, which is where essential micronutrients come from. You're right that "animal pack" is way overpriced, though. Fish oil is also a good idea. But both of these are for health moreso than bodybuilding progress.
All the rest of the crap he was taking was all but useless, though. You can't really blame him, though, given that bb.com's whole reason for existance is to sell supplements, so it naturally follows that most posts on there focus on supplements.
Oh, and 4000 calories a day is definitely excessive, "bulking" or not. It explains the excessive fat gain.
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"You'd do better with a 3 days/week 1 hour whole body routine using compound lifts with weights which see you fail in the 8-12 range."
This is right.
Thanks WhiteCastle.
Dreamer I forgot to say- do cardio on non-lifting days, 30-45 minutes with good intensity (you should be sweating hard). If you're in bad shape, build up your intensity over a couple weeks.
People have matured and majority are not flaming me.. atleast anymore. So i'm more then happy to join this board.
Sometimes what seems like flaming is a wake up call. Can't believe no one told you off in the middle of that dirty bulk! We would've slapped you around, but you'd be in better shape for it.
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I disagree about multivitimins. The average bodybuilding diet consists of a lot of chicken and starchy carbs, but nowhere near enough vegetables and fruits, which is where essential micronutrients come from. You're right that "animal pack" is way overpriced, though. Fish oil is also a good idea. But both of these are for health moreso than bodybuilding progress.
All the rest of the crap he was taking was all but useless, though. You can't really blame him, though, given that bb.com's whole reason for existance is to sell supplements, so it naturally follows that most posts on there focus on supplements.
Oh, and 4000 calories a day is definitely excessive, "bulking" or not. It explains the excessive fat gain.
I would agree on multivitamins if they showed benefits over the lifecourse, but they don't. What we know now based on long-term studies is that there has not been a beneficial impact from multivitamins, but instead for some groups they put people at risk....men for prostate cancer, women for osteo, and smokers for some reason as well. I think the reason why is that we have assumed that the body will do something with the vitamins that will beat the impact of taking a large solid pill. But it hasn't materialized, and nobody knows why. It's the same case with antioxidants. They do great in test tubes but don't do shit when they hit the human body. For the last 6 years or so, we were told lycopene was a great antioxidant to defend against prostate cancer. Theoretically it is. However, last month a massive epidimiological study on lycopene ever found no effect from it at all.
This is what we're up against with multivitamins. The old research was mostly theoretical. Only in the past 10 years or so have we had enough data on people that spans decades (because of no world wars that wipe out men in the past 50 yrs that would bias the sample and/or ration food) to see if any of the theoretical stuff pans out. It hasn't so far.
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Dreamer, do us all a favor and shut the hell up. You look like complete shit. Your diet is full of processed foods. You have way to much fat, absolutly no muscle and you look like complete crap. Don't bring your nonsense wanna be bulking diet over here. I am not putting you down, I am giving you a dose of reality. You look like complete shit. Bulking is useless if you dont train and workout. Your picture now is the daily joke. You are among the internet fools who have graced us.
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Dreamer, do us all a favor and shut the hell up. You look like complete shit. Your diet is full of processed foods. You have way to much fat, absolutly no muscle and you look like complete crap. Don't bring your nonsense wanna be bulking diet over here. I am not putting you down, I am giving you a dose of reality. You look like complete shit. Bulking is useless if you dont train and workout. Your picture now is the daily joke. You are among the internet fools who have graced us.
I don't think he's a clown or anything, and I believe him when he says he goes to the gym 5x a week, he just doesn't know what he's doing and needs some guidance.
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I don't think he's a clown or anything, and I believe him when he says he goes to the gym 5x a week, he just doesn't know what he's doing and needs some guidance.
Yes, we must deprogram him.
At 5x a week he should be badly overtrained, but that would have seen at least some muscle growth. I suspect he was pushing weight in the 4-6 rep range which he could have moved 12-15 times.
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I don't think he's a clown or anything, and I believe him when he says he goes to the gym 5x a week, he just doesn't know what he's doing and needs some guidance.
He is part of team D.L.5 Now...Watch for the results. This Down Under Connection will have devastating effects on this forum. ;D
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The fatty starts this thread like we should all give him some credit for something. He has done nothing. Your not a bodybuilder, not even close. Kid is a joke.
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The fatty starts this thread like we should all give him some credit for something. He has done nothing. Your not a bodybuilder, not even close. Kid is a joke.
Dreamer will get his 'GET BIG RESPECT'...Just wait and see ;D
"TEAM DREAMER"
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He is part of team D.L.5 Now...Watch for the results. This Down Under Connection will have devastating effects on this forum. ;D
You guys gonna bake some oatmeal protein bars?
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You guys gonna bake some oatmeal protein bars?
No that was my 'experiment' gone wrong.
He will be on a fantastic eating regime for cutting....
THE REST IS A SECRET....
OR WAIT AND SEE AS THIS PROGRESSES.
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The fatty starts this thread like we should all give him some credit for something. He has done nothing. Your not a bodybuilder, not even close. Kid is a joke.
I didn't start this thread.... If you had bother to read the thread. I expect no credit. I have simply announced that there was some person who registered here imposing me. ask ron..
I have just been answering everyones questions about what i've done etc. So really i don't understand where your coming from at all.
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The fatty starts this thread like we should all give him some credit for something. He has done nothing. Your not a bodybuilder, not even close. Kid is a joke.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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lol, i can't believe i haven't gone onto this thread before. Good stuff.
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Nlarge2 - Wasn't all that crash hot. Was average. I wouldn't buy again.
CytoGainer - Was great. Might get again during a bulk if i need the extra calories.
No-explode - a gimmick. It gave me a buzz for about the first 2-3 months then my body adapted and it didn't work. Obviously i just decided to take more each time hoping for the buzz to return. But all that happened was i felt bloated when working out. Also got cramps. Defiantly a waste of money after your body adapts. Over-priced also.
Animal Stak 2 - Was just stupid of me to get this considering i'm 18 and my test levels are already high. I did actually notice some strength gains when using this for the first few months. But that could also be due to the placebo effect from just taking it. Waste of money.
Animal Pak - Good overall product. Gives me no strength benefits. Just good for health in long run.
Anator p70 - I didn't notice anything at all with this product. Nothing at all. I have a tub and a half left. So i guess i'll use it when i bulk again. But i defiantly wouldn't buy again.
Glutamine - A gimmick. nothing more really.
HigherPower - Good source of creatine. Will Continue to buy.
Fish oil Tablets - Good for health and joints. Will continue to buy
you must be an angel in the inside otherwise i can't understand how your girlfirend loves you
sry
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Hey dreamer whereabouts in Australia are ya??
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Hey dreamer whereabouts in Australia are ya??
Hes from Aus? Me too. Good to see him representing us Aussies well ::)
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kind of looks like a fat Val Kilmer in the face in the before shot.
;D
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Hes from Aus? Me too. Good to see him representing us Aussies well ::)
Thats rite. just be ready for some great results in the future.
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you must be an angel in the inside otherwise i can't understand how your girlfirend loves you
sry
I must be then...
I live in NSW - Albury-Wodonga.
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I don't actually understand what you mean by this.
The supplements i have taken in the past have been.
Nlarge2
CytoGainer
No-explode
Animal Stak 2
Animal Pak
Anator p70
Glutamine
HigherPower Creatine
At the moment my supplements are:
Max Protein Lean
Higher Power - Creatine
Fish Oil tablets
(i ran out of Animal pak. But going to re-order)
Thats pretty much it.
There is a Bosnian snake-oil vendor that would love to meet you, Dreamer.
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Dreamer, the thing at start is to keep it simple, it's very easy to overcomplicate matters.
Train 3 times a week, do cardio 2-3 times a week, eat healthy 3 times a day, perhaps throw in an extra egg or protein shake.
that's it, there's no shortcut to getting more muscle (except for drugs) just stay with the program and in a year you'll see some decent differences.
try to stay in a 10-12 BF range, that's lean with some abs showing, don't go do bulking cycles.
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Dreamer, the thing at start is to keep it simple, it's very easy to overcomplicate matters.
Train 3 times a week, do cardio 2-3 times a week, eat healthy 3 times a day, perhaps throw in an extra egg or protein shake.
that's it, there's no shortcut to getting more muscle (except for drugs) just stay with the program and in a year you'll see some decent differences.
try to stay in a 10-12 BF range, that's lean with some abs showing, don't go do bulking cycles.
Yeah. I like to eat 6 small meals a day. It seems to be more effective. Its all good mate. D.L. 5 is helping me out. Thanks anyways.
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Nlarge2 - Wasn't all that crash hot. Was average. I wouldn't buy again.
CytoGainer - Was great. Might get again during a bulk if i need the extra calories.
No-explode - a gimmick. It gave me a buzz for about the first 2-3 months then my body adapted and it didn't work. Obviously i just decided to take more each time hoping for the buzz to return. But all that happened was i felt bloated when working out. Also got cramps. Defiantly a waste of money after your body adapts. Over-priced also.
Animal Stak 2 - Was just stupid of me to get this considering i'm 18 and my test levels are already high. I did actually notice some strength gains when using this for the first few months. But that could also be due to the placebo effect from just taking it. Waste of money.
Animal Pak - Good overall product. Gives me no strength benefits. Just good for health in long run.
Anator p70 - I didn't notice anything at all with this product. Nothing at all. I have a tub and a half left. So i guess i'll use it when i bulk again. But i defiantly wouldn't buy again.
Glutamine - A gimmick. nothing more really.
HigherPower - Good source of creatine. Will Continue to buy.
Fish oil Tablets - Good for health and joints. Will continue to buy
Dude, are you dreaming ? One MUST lift weights in order to make muscular gains. What the fvck are you talking about ? Have you EVER lifted a gym type weight in your life ? With no malice, you honestly look like sh*t and are delusional.
Hope this helps.
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After a good bit of encouraging, i have finally decided to register here. I dont care what you mates say about my bulk, so i have come out to all the wolves. I made some great progress gains, and after cutting I should look very impressive. I plan on being around 230 lean in a few years. Constructive criticism is welcome, flaming is not.
looks like young pics of tub of shit or man of penis on here...
fat is not impressive.
very easy to get fat.
just look at man of fats pics very sad this tubby lard is
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Friday:
I use this day to give special attention to any muscles that require it. I Also do abs
That would be your entire body then.
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Dude, are you dreaming ? One MUST lift weights in order to make muscular gains. What the fvck are you talking about ? Have you EVER lifted a gym type weight in your life ? With no malice, you honestly look like sh*t and are delusional.
Hope this helps.
exactly, dude looks like he havent trained a day in his life and took all that bullshit supps to look fat.
he should put the emphasize on training like an animal instead of only taking in that crap.
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exactly, dude looks like he havent trained a day in his life and took all that bullshit supps to look fat.
he should put the emphasize on training like an animal instead of only taking in that crap.
i was more muscular when i was 12..without training
he must have a very shitty genetic
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I thought he was Serbian?
And it's Snake OilTM, not "snake-oil".
Don't forget Me and Milos will meet in march for the UNITY TOUR. Where we put our money where ourmouths are and pose down.
For now my focus is getting Dreamer ready.
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DL5 and Dreamer "getting ready"
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DL5 and Dreamer "getting ready"
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Noob. Just back the f*ck up and shut ur trap. Watch out for the burd
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dreamer as you can tell we dont hold anything back this isnt bodybuilding.com your in the thunderdome............. ...squadfather doesnt count he looks like a heavier you
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dreamer as you can tell we dont hold anything back this isnt bodybuilding.com your in the thunderdome............. ...squadfather doesnt count he looks like a heavier you
Lol thats fine. But you can understand why one can be skeptical to join when he randomly sees a thread about himself with just direct abuse. But thats understandable seeing my progress pictures. But i do intend to make changes. One thing i've always had is alot of will power. Just need to aim it in the right direction. So give me 2 months and we'll see where i'm at.
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I must be then...
I live in NSW - Albury-Wodonga.
Hmmm.... well it's a fair drive but I think I'll pay your girlfriend a visit ;)
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Hmmm.... well it's a fair drive but I think I'll pay your girlfriend a visit ;)
good luck... shes a very loyal girlfriend. so to put it plain. you have no chance. lol
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good luck... shes a very loyal girlfriend. so to put it plain. you have no chance. lol
dreamer may be as ugly as dillet or even uglier but he seems to be a humble guy
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dreamer may be as ugly as dillet or even uglier but he seems to be a humble guy
Yes, he has a very good temperament thus far.
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good luck... shes a very loyal girlfriend. so to put it plain. you have no chance. lol
translation=she is ugly as fuck and i am the best she can get.
bench
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Lol thats fine. But you can understand why one can be skeptical to join when he randomly sees a thread about himself with just direct abuse. But thats understandable seeing my progress pictures. But i do intend to make changes. One thing i've always had is alot of will power. Just need to aim it in the right direction. So give me 2 months and we'll see where i'm at.
havent read the whole thread, but if your the guy in the pics (this being getbig you can never be sure).
first do a diet to loose some of the fat. then start working to gain muscle but dont overdo the calories...keep things simple as you been told, and for fucks sake drop all those garbage supplements...all you need is regular food and maybe some protein powder and some vitamin pills.
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good luck... shes a very loyal girlfriend. so to put it plain. you have no chance. lol
hahaha just fucking with ya mate. You and your girlfriend like rum?
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"Dreamer" you are getting shit because you look like shit. This has to be a gimmick account. You come here looking for support and whatever else. Get lost. Your a flabby attention whore you put on 10 pounds of flabby fat and are trying to come off like you put on muscle from bulking. You have ZERO muscle and ALL fat. Try working out, and dont tell us you do, your either not working out PERIOD or your not doing it right. You look fat. If you wanna change, stop posting pictures of a fat out of shape blob and go workout.
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Lol thats fine. But you can understand why one can be skeptical to join when he randomly sees a thread about himself with just direct abuse. But thats understandable seeing my progress pictures. But i do intend to make changes. One thing i've always had is alot of will power. Just need to aim it in the right direction. So give me 2 months and we'll see where i'm at.
Don't let the flamers get you down, but if you pay attention to the rest you will glean some good stuff. With a little effort you'll find out that you'll learn more here than at those other knob gobbling sites.
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Don't let the flamers get you down, but if you pay attention to the rest you will glean some good stuff. With a little effort you'll find out that you'll learn more here than at those other knob gobbling sites.
There's plenty of knob gobbling experts here too. :-\
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There's plenty of knob gobbling experts here too. :-\
S'truth. My bad. :-\
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Dreamer?
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yes?
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How goes the fat loss? What are you doing in the gym? What's the daily diet?
Does DL5 have you on a HIT program? ;D
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Nar i'm converting over to a protein/fat diet. So should take a couple of days to start getting somewhere.
Diet goes so far as:
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon or red meat with 1/2 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut oil 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 5 50 g whey with 1 1/2 tablespoon organic Peanut Butter
Meal 6 6 whole-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
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Dreamers Day:
7am: Wake Up, Smells Armpits, Looks at American Idol Pictures, Puts Away Plastic Girlfriend
9am: Eat 1st meal of Processed Uncle Bens Microwave Chicken with Frozen Rice, After Breakfast Meal Follow with Big Glass of Creatine Water.
Dreamer Repeats Several Times Daily Till he feels a pump.
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Dreamers Day:
7am: Wake Up, Smells Armpits, Looks at American Idol Pictures, Puts Away Plastic Girlfriend
9am: Eat 1st meal of Processed Uncle Bens Microwave Chicken with Frozen Rice, After Breakfast Meal Follow with Big Glass of Creatine Water.
Dreamer Repeats Several Times Daily Till he feels a pump.
yup! living the dream lol
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Nar i'm converting over to a protein/fat diet. So should take a couple of days to start getting somewhere.
Diet goes so far as:
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon or red meat with 1/2 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut oil 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 5 50 g whey with 1 1/2 tablespoon organic Peanut Butter
Meal 6 6 whole-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Looks short on fibre to me. You may not shit for a few days. :-X Looks too limited nutritionally too, at least for more than a week or so. Why 0 carb? Ever done this before? Not sure about the red meat. Also, check the PB label for sugars.
You know the total cals? You'll be drinking plenty of water, I assume? You'll be doing plenty of cardio and some lifting too I'm sure.
When can we expect progress pics?
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Looks short on fibre to me. You may not shit for a few days. :-X Looks too limited nutritionally too, at least for more than a week or so. Why 0 carb? Ever done this before? Not sure about the red meat. Also, check the PB label for sugars.
You know the total cals? You'll be drinking plenty of water, I assume? You'll be doing plenty of cardio and some lifting too I'm sure.
When can we expect progress pics?
I'm aiming for 2 months. i'm at about 85kg as we speak. My goal is a kilo a week. I think that i'll be around 75kg cut. But thats only an estimate.
DL 5 explained to me that. The reason i have no carbs is i want to access my fat for fuel rather then carbs. In doing this is it takes a few days for my body to drain itself of carbs and switch over. Nar i've never been on a no carb diet so this should be interesting and hopefully i'll really benefit from it. Yeah i always drink alot of water. Will probably be drinking about 2-3L a day.
Not really sure on the amount of calories. But its about 1/50th of what i use to eat lol. haven't really had any dramas yet. The hardest thing would have to be waking up earlier to go for a walk before breakfast.
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Looks short on fibre to me. You may not shit for a few days. :-X Looks too limited nutritionally too, at least for more than a week or so. Why 0 carb? Ever done this before? Not sure about the red meat. Also, check the PB label for sugars.
You know the total cals? You'll be drinking plenty of water, I assume? You'll be doing plenty of cardio and some lifting too I'm sure.
When can we expect progress pics?
toney freeman has done it before so do many pro's...
u gotta try it to become a believer ;)
as for fibre he can psylium husk....as long as he doesnt shit his pants
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Looks short on fibre to me. You may not shit for a few days. :-X Looks too limited nutritionally too, at least for more than a week or so. Why 0 carb? Ever done this before? Not sure about the red meat. Also, check the PB label for sugars.
also to let u know i have been doing this for 9 weeks, best i felt and stable energy all day.
ideal is salmon instead of red meat, however salmon is very expensive ;)
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also to let u know i have been doing this for 9 weeks, best i felt and stable energy all day.
ideal is salmon instead of red meat, however salmon is very expensive ;)
salmon in a can ok?
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PM deleted... ::)
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salmon in a can ok?
Shell out the big $5 for 150g at Woolies. Don't cry poor - you used to spend more than that on a whole chicken and all those supps. Cook it over slow heat in a pan in butter, some fresh dill, salt, pepper, white wine, and lemon to finish. Or leave the lemon off - Masterfoods Horseradish Cream is good on salmon. Or make a hollandaise sauce if you want to go all out (store bought hollandaise is shit).
Then eat the canned stuff. You decide.
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Shell out the big $5 for 150g at Woolies. Don't cry poor - you used to spend more than that on a whole chicken and all those supps. Cook it over slow heat in a pan in butter, some fresh dill, salt, pepper, white wine, and lemon to finish. Or leave the lemon off - Masterfoods Horseradish Cream is good on salmon. Or make a hollandaise sauce if you want to go all out (store bought hollandaise is shit).
Then eat the canned stuff. You decide.
lol defiantly not poor. Only stuff i've seen is salmon in a can hence why i asked :P
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Woolworths has it, most other supermarkets too, or try a few local fishmongers - there's more out there than just salmon. You've had yabbies, I assume? :P
There's nothing magical about eating the same boring shit everyday, although most of us do it because it's easy to fall into a rut. I'm guilty too, but I try to keep it interesting.
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Nar i'm converting over to a protein/fat diet. So should take a couple of days to start getting somewhere.
Diet goes so far as:
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon or red meat with 1/2 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut oil 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
Meal 5 50 g whey with 1 1/2 tablespoon organic Peanut Butter
Meal 6 6 whole-3 eggs 1 primose oil tab 1 fishoil tab
you copied that from the palumbo thread over at MD , right? i wouldnt go zero carbs tho...just cut them down gradually. be prepared to feel like shit first few days then you will start to feel better but in my opinion better too keep some carbs in your diet and take the majority of those before and after your workouts. without carbs you will feel flat as hell all the time too.
zero this and zero that can never be good. keep some carbs in your diet man.
but if your in a caloric deficit..sure it will work, not "optimal" in my opinion tho.
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toney freeman has done it before so do many pro's...
u gotta try it to become a believer ;)
as for fibre he can psylium husk....as long as he doesnt shit his pants
Hey D.L.5, im an aussie who has supported dreamer on BB.com, my user name there is thegreekhulk84, and i would like to join TEAM DREAMER and show these fools what dreamer can achieve!
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catharsis....
then rebuild.
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Hey D.L.5, im an aussie who has supported dreamer on BB.com, my user name there is thegreekhulk84, and i would like to join TEAM DREAMER and show these fools what dreamer can achieve!
You know this whole thing started as a joke, right? He's getting help here because he's been a good sport.
Why didn't any of you tell him he was going wrong?
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You know this whole thing started as a joke, right? He's getting help here because he's been a good sport.
Why didn't any of you tell him he was going wrong?
I know this threads just making fun, but i tried contacting him on BB.com and i wanted to help him out, but he didnt respond.
I think he wont be offended by all the negativity and make some progress, if he wants help, i have my msn address on my bodyspace page, i can give him some tips etc.
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zero this and zero that can never be good. keep some carbs in your diet man.
but if your in a caloric deficit..sure it will work, not "optimal" in my opinion tho.
No, the whole idea of this diet is to go zero carbs to force the body to start using fat for energy. I've seen it work and am interested to see how this turns out. The previous guy I knew on this was a powerlifter who managed to keep his strength for competitions while always making his weight class.
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No, the whole idea of this diet is to go zero carbs to force the body to start using fat for energy. I've seen it work and am interested to see how this turns out. The previous guy I knew on this was a powerlifter who managed to keep his strength for competitions while always making his weight class.
i known what the zero carb diet is about. you dont need to teach me about it.i tried it and researched it thoroghly.
like i said before, keep carbs in your diet and gradually lower them if needed.
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i known what the zero carb diet is about. you dont need to teach me about it.i tried it and researched it thoroghly.
like i said before, keep carbs in your diet and gradually lower them if needed.
Agreed. You're trying to build the bod; you're not some skank on a cigarette and semen diet.
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yes?
How long do you plan on continuing this little charade? ;)
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How long do you plan on continuing this little charade? ;)
:)
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No, the whole idea of this diet is to go zero carbs to force the body to start using fat for energy. I've seen it work and am interested to see how this turns out. The previous guy I knew on this was a powerlifter who managed to keep his strength for competitions while always making his weight class.
you are correct.
to slaveboy, i agree but this diet as i is engineered SPECIFICALLY (if they tweak it out of the guidelines they fuck it up) is perfect. once u lose all the bodyfat u want, u then add carbs in certain amounts and keep adjusting as u go.
to dreamer - if u can eat canned salmon go for it (no flavoured ones they have carbs)....i avoid tinned fish i think it tastes like shit.
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Agreed. You're trying to build the bod; you're not some skank on a cigarette and semen diet.
chimps, this diet is the best way to burn fat and preserve muscle.
Dreamer needs to lose fat....this is the best way to do it. He will keep ALL his muscle and gain strength.
once he does lose the fat, we add carbs in.
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I know this threads just making fun, but i tried contacting him on BB.com and i wanted to help him out, but he didnt respond.
I handle all liaison contact regarding team dreamer. yes u can be a part of the campaign as a supporter of dreamer.
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I handle all liaison contact regarding team dreamer. yes u can be a part of the campaign as a supporter of dreamer.
I'm interested in a tee-shirt.
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I'm interested in a tee-shirt.
well I can guarantee two sales. one to myself and one to you.
I think the D.L.5 & Milos Unity Tour would be interesting t-shirts.
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chimps, this diet is the best way to burn fat and preserve muscle.
Dreamer needs to lose fat....this is the best way to do it. He will keep ALL his muscle and gain strength.
once he does lose the fat, we add carbs in.
I understand what you're saying, here, DL. But this guy's a total rookie, with no real muscle to speak of, and I think by getting him into ketosis (and toothpaste-like shits, etc.) is probably not a good idea. Guy needs to start eating well, with lots of protein and medium fats/carbs and get some help with his training at the local level. It's that simple. Not easy, but simple.
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you are correct.
to slaveboy, i agree but this diet as i is engineered SPECIFICALLY (if they tweak it out of the guidelines they fuck it up) is perfect. once u lose all the bodyfat u want, u then add carbs in certain amounts and keep adjusting as u go.
to dreamer - if u can eat canned salmon go for it (no flavoured ones they have carbs)....i avoid tinned fish i think it tastes like shit.
na..this guy should avoid extremes. he should diet for sure, and when lean add mass without getting fat again (which is a slow process for a natural..but thats how it is)
but give him something simple. put him in a caloric deficit of 500 calories (250 from food restriction and 250calories burned from cardio) and keep at it until weight loss stalls and if needed increase caloric deficit...
protein at 1.25 g or so per lbs bw as he is dieting (instead of 1g /lbs bw when not dieting) then add in 40-60g fat and carbs accordingly.
then put him on a simple 3 day per week schedule with almost daily cardio.
consistancy is more important than complexity. simplicity often facilitates consistancy.
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I understand what you're saying, here, DL. But this guy's a total rookie, with no real muscle to speak of, and I think by getting him into ketosis (and toothpaste-like shits, etc.) is probably not a good idea. Guy needs to start eating well, with lots of protein and medium fats/carbs and get some help with his training at the local level. It's that simple. Not easy, but simple.
to slave and chimps...well said. very good points.
I say we'll see how he goes, if he has trouble with it, we'll flip it...from current feedback he is breezing with the diet.
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How long do you plan on continuing this little charade? ;)
What charade would you be speaking of?
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What charade would you be speaking of?
He thinks you're a gimmick. You haven't posted a pic holding a Getbig sign, nor has Ron vouched for your authenticity.
Are you really "breezing" through your no carb diet? I'm usually ready to kill for a plate of pasta after a few low days. How's the lifting and cardio intensity?
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He thinks you're a gimmick. You haven't posted a pic holding a Getbig sign, nor has Ron vouched for your authenticity.
Are you really "breezing" through your no carb diet? I'm usually ready to kill for a plate of pasta after a few low days. How's the lifting and cardio intensity?
Currently i just feel tired. Just wanna sleep. Really hard to concentrate. Unless i'm in the gym. Well i did sprints on saturday and it really fatigued my legs. So i've only been able to do legs once this week. Considering i'm on bill stars 5x5 i'm pretty annoyed. Cardio is fairly easier, its getting up, thats the hard bit.
My cardio is 1 hour walks before breakfast. So i shouldn't get fatigued like i did with sprints etc. Trying to figure out a new training routine. I'd like to go 5 days a week. But with my diet i think that will just lead to over training.
As far as me authenticating myself goes. I'll take a picture with a get big sign i suppose. But if you cant wait that long just pm Ron. I'm sure he will clarify it for you.
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He thinks you're a gimmick. You haven't posted a pic holding a Getbig sign, nor has Ron vouched for your authenticity.
Are you really "breezing" through your no carb diet? I'm usually ready to kill for a plate of pasta after a few low days. How's the lifting and cardio intensity?
i VERIFY ITS HIM.
In regards to low carb diet, this isnt low carb its no carb. his body is not using carbs for energy any more it is using fats so his moods will be great and energy steady and always full.
low carb diet makes u feel this way because ur brain is expecting more carbs but never getting them (makes u feel like shit), this diet ur body is using fat for fuel, getting fat for fuel and no insulin swings.
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i hope that dreamer will make some great improvements
maybe we can battle it out at the mr.getbig 2008 or 2009 ;D
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Dreamers gonna make some serious gains! I will give him some help also, and he will come out the winner!
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Dreamers gonna make some serious gains! I will give him some help also, and he will come out the winner!
No he won't. Slow consistent progress over years is what he can expect. He won't look better in a week, but he'll look much better next year. He's going to have to make his peace with that, as will all the kids who expect massive results instantly. Tortise and hare dude.
Btw, your name cracks me up.
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I think a no carb diet is too extreme, some carbs (and fibers) will not hurt him.
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I think a no carb diet is too extreme, some carbs (and fibers) will not hurt him.
No harm in trying.
If i feel it is to taxing on my energy etc i might change it. But i felt crap while body was changing fuel sources from carbs to fat. But i'm starting to feel better now. So this diet is good good thus far.
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Dreamer are you using the Team Milos stack? Who are your bodybuilding heroes?
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Dreamer are you using the Team Milos stack? Who are your bodybuilding heroes?
Team milos stack?
I don't have any bodybuilding heroes.
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Dreamer, will you enter the 2008 Mr Getbig??
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Dreamer, will you enter the 2008 Mr Getbig??
I'm not sure what it is. Most likely no.
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I think a no carb diet is too extreme, some carbs (and fibers) will not hurt him.
It is actually not extreme at all. low carb is extreme. but this isnt he is using fat for fuel...he will have an abundance of energy. his body wont want carbs it wont need them
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I thought the brain functioned mainly on glucose. Also, what about glycogen replenishment? A 5 x 5 powerlifting program on a zero carb cutting diet seems unusual. Even DiPasquale's Anabolic Diet allows 30g of carbs/ day and a weekend carb up.
You know we're just keeping you honest DL. ;D
Dreamer - Don't operate any heavy machinery son. Still think you should answer my quesions in the "Yo Dreamer" thread.
Speak on this some more man. Did you feel fatigued outside the gym when you were just lifting and not doing cardio? Do you wake up unrefreshed in the morning or have difficulty rising? Very tired in the afternoon but unnaturally awake late at night? (I've noticed your posting hours) Any cravings for salt or sweets? Low blood pressure (dizzy or spotty vision if you stand up too fast, etc)? Poor balance? Sensitivity to cold? Dark circles or puffy under eyes? Bruise easily? More accute sense of smell during stress or excercise?
Lots of kooky questions, I know. Just curious if any apply.
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I thought the brain functioned mainly on glucose. Also, what about glycogen replenishment? A 5 x 5 powerlifting program on a zero carb cutting diet seems unusual. Even DiPasquale's Anabolic Diet allows 30g of carbs/ day and a weekend carb up.
You know we're just keeping you honest DL. ;D
Dreamer - Don't operate any heavy machinery son. Still think you should answer my quesions in the "Yo Dreamer" thread.
Are you keeping Palmubo honest? Well he is right and true.
In regards to doing the 5 x 5 routine i didnt recomend that and i dont believe he is doing it anymore.
I have researched all diets, read the actual journals and studies, read the analysis and formulations of everyone from gurus to people who talk out their ass. I have also personally done All diets so experienced it from low cal not many meals, low cal many meals, high protein low protein, low carb, higher carb to keto.
in regards to 30 gram carb per day, he will be getting carbs indirectly from his fat sources and remaining in ketosis. Also the carbs he has stored from his cheat meal once per week and the indirect carbs will be more than enough to fuel his workouts. this pisquale fellow is very similar concept if not the same. stay in ketosis and once per week have a carb meal (this dirties the metabolism and revs it up and also gives carbs in storage for workout).
If i had my way he would train Mentzer style once per 5 days-7 days. At the most 3 times per week, whether on keto or other diet. If u know how to train u dont need more than that otherwise u are just doing low intensity shit (but that is another story and training theory debates never end so i let all do what they want).
In regards to energy levels- energy levels are more stable on keto diet ur brain loves to use ketones for fuel, also no insulin swings. also with low carbs ur brain is expecting more carbs, doesnt know if its getting them, and then eventually doesnt get them or as much as it wants...hence the feeling like shit and mood/ energy swings.
oh and the bit i forgot to mention - ketogenic burns the most fat and preserves all muscle. our aim is to burn fat. so this is the number one diet for this purpose.
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No he won't. Slow consistent progress over years is what he can expect. He won't look better in a week, but he'll look much better next year. He's going to have to make his peace with that, as will all the kids who expect massive results instantly. Tortise and hare dude.
Btw, your name cracks me up.
Why does my name crack you up? you will see, dreamer will have made significant gains by the start of 2008!
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here is a suggestion:
dont eat shit, do hiit a few days a week, and wait for results. complicated huh
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here is a suggestion:
dont eat shit, do hiit a few days a week, and wait for results. complicated huh
yeah relly i started to train when i was 13...
i ate like shit and trained like shit i had no clue
but nontheless i grew
so dreamer just train and wait! you are young you will grow
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here is a suggestion:
dont eat shit, do hiit a few days a week, and wait for results. complicated huh
HIIT really effects my training routine. It fatigues my legs greatly for about 4-5 days. I've lost 1 kg currently on this protein/fat diet. So currently standing in at 84kg raw.
To ironnecks post
I'd prefer to take a more structured approach. But thanks anyways.
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alright... so who's gimmick account is this anyway 8)
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HIIT really effects my training routine. It fatigues my legs greatly for about 4-5 days. I've lost 1 kg currently on this protein/fat diet. So currently standing in at 84kg raw.
To ironnecks post
I'd prefer to take a more structured approach. But thanks anyways.
when you start to train it doesn't matter
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Speak on this some more man. Did you feel fatigued outside the gym when you were just lifting and not doing cardio? Do you wake up unrefreshed in the morning or have difficulty rising? Very tired in the afternoon but unnaturally awake late at night? (I've noticed your posting hours) Any cravings for salt or sweets? Low blood pressure (dizzy or spotty vision if you stand up too fast, etc)? Poor balance? Sensitivity to cold? Dark circles or puffy under eyes? Bruise easily? More accute sense of smell during stress or excercise?
Lots of kooky questions, I know. Just curious if any apply.
Fatigued outside gym: Sometimes
Wake up unrefreshed: Yes quite often.
Trouble rising: I have never been a morning person so i always want to sleep more.
Tired in afternoon: Yes. If you mean by 4:30+
Unnaturally awake at night: Yes, I always start to want to goto bed around 12am regardless of when i wake up
Cravings for salt or sweets: No i've got pretty good self control. I normally have cravings for meat if anything.
Dizzy or spotty vision: I don't think so.
Poor balance: Umm not sure.
Sensitive to cold: I am always the first to feel cold. Think thats just in my genetics
Dark circles: no
Sense of smell: no nothing noticeable.
Why all these questions by the way?
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alright... so who's gimmick account is this anyway 8)
Feel free to pm ron for some re-assurance. I was going to post a picture of me with a getbig sign. But DL5 and spartenhulk are helping me out and have also stated that it is me and this isn't a gimmick account. So there is no need for me to post more pictures of myself. This is the last i will speak on this matter.
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Fatigued outside gym: Sometimes
Wake up unrefreshed: Yes quite often.
Trouble rising: I have never been a morning person so i always want to sleep more.
Tired in afternoon: Yes. If you mean by 4:30+
Unnaturally awake at night: Yes, I always start to want to goto bed around 12am regardless of when i wake up
Cravings for salt or sweets: No i've got pretty good self control. I normally have cravings for meat if anything.
Dizzy or spotty vision: I don't think so.
Poor balance: Umm not sure.
Sensitive to cold: I am always the first to feel cold. Think thats just in my genetics
Dark circles: no
Sense of smell: no nothing noticeable.
Why all these questions by the way?
He wants to take you out on a date. But we dont want u distracted from ur goals ;D
Now in regards to muscle growth and what ironneck said, i agree totally, it will take time. For the fat though we can measure how much u will lose and do it quite quick especially with this diet. In regards to energy levels, 1 week - 2 weeks you will be totally accustomed to burning ketones for fuel and u wil feel much better than u did on a carb diet. If anything, u will feel like u are eating too much food on this diet.
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I can see Dreamer now as he reads this post, agreeing with the nutrional advice as he scarfs his 8th twinkie into his mouth about to embark on a 40 oz of rootbeer, creatine, and vitamin water.
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I can see Dreamer now as he reads this post, agreeing with the nutrional advice as he scarfs his 8th twinkie into his mouth about to embark on a 40 oz of rootbeer, creatine, and vitamin water.
haha
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I can see Dreamer now as he reads this post, agreeing with the nutrional advice as he scarfs his 8th twinkie into his mouth about to embark on a 40 oz of rootbeer, creatine, and vitamin water.
We dont have twinkies in Australia, were not like you fat americans, lol.
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We dont have twinkies in Australia, were not like you fat americans, lol.
OH Really !!!
Australia, land of junk food ads
In Australia, two thirds of children are overweight and one third are obese. Twenty years ago, only about ten per cent were obese. And Australia has the greatest amount of junk food ads per hour of television than any other country in the world, including the US and the UK. About 30 per cent of all ads in kids' viewing time are for food or drinks. Most of this of this is for junk food: burgers, chips, soft drinks and sweets - high in fat, salt and/or sugar, says the Dietitians Association of Australia.
:source
http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/s1251181.htm
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OH Really !!!
Australia, land of junk food ads
In Australia, two thirds of children are overweight and one third are obese.
everyone in australia is getting fat, the women, the guys, everyone. its going to be like america in the near future.
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OH Really !!!
Australia, land of junk food ads
In Australia, two thirds of children are overweight and one third are obese. Twenty years ago, only about ten per cent were obese. And Australia has the greatest amount of junk food ads per hour of television than any other country in the world, including the US and the UK. About 30 per cent of all ads in kids' viewing time are for food or drinks. Most of this of this is for junk food: burgers, chips, soft drinks and sweets - high in fat, salt and/or sugar, says the Dietitians Association of Australia.
:source
http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/s1251181.htm
LOL, knew i was going to get a response ASAP, but yeah Australians are catching up to the Americans quite fast!
BUT DON'T FORGET BIATCHES, AUSTRALIA IS STILL SMALLER THAN YOUR COUNTRY AND YET IT POSSESSES MORE LARD ASSES THAN OUR ENTIRE POPULATION!
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Fatigued outside gym: Sometimes
Wake up unrefreshed: Yes quite often.
Trouble rising: I have never been a morning person so i always want to sleep more.
Tired in afternoon: Yes. If you mean by 4:30+
Unnaturally awake at night: Yes, I always start to want to goto bed around 12am regardless of when i wake up
Cravings for salt or sweets: No i've got pretty good self control. I normally have cravings for meat if anything.
Dizzy or spotty vision: I don't think so.
Poor balance: Umm not sure.
Sensitive to cold: I am always the first to feel cold. Think thats just in my genetics
Dark circles: no
Sense of smell: no nothing noticeable.
Why all these questions by the way?
I've got a theory that adrenal stress is a lot more common than people think. If you really were pushing hard on a 5 day/week split (not half assing it in the gym) then there's a good chance you overtrained. Your unusual circadian rythm and slow recovery (from sprints) point to something. If you've been feeling off, I'd suggest getting bloodwork and a hormone status test done, including DHEA, estrogens, test, cortisol, etc, broader the better.
Why does my name crack you up? you will see, dreamer will have made significant gains by the start of 2008!
Not unless he hits the juice. Natural muscle grows slowly. Your name is an instant classic.
Are you keeping Palmubo honest?
Not sure that's possible. Even the justice system had a go at it.
Just bear in mind that Palumbo works with heavily hormonized guys with lots of years in the gym. Dreamer is clearly neither.
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Just bear in mind that Palumbo works with heavily hormonized guys with lots of years in the gym. Dreamer is clearly neither.
Excuse me... I do believe i'm huge!
jokes :P
Also i do know i was overtraining for the first year.
Use to scaffold and use to push myself as hard as i could at work so i could knock off earlier. Then goto the gym monday to friday. Doing about 8 exercises a night for 5 sets each. usually about a 3 hour session. Used alot of forced reps in the 4-6 rep range. But as the year progressed i did start to learn more etc like 1 hour is more then enough needed in the gym and such. But bassically thats how it started. At a manufacturing company now. Basically no labour work.
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Excuse me... I do believe i'm huge!
jokes :P
Hey, gimmick!
If you'd like to get your ass handed to you, march on down to the Y... ;)
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Your name is an instant classic.
I am an actual real spartan, my Dads dad came from Sparta in Greece and his father was born there etc,
I grew up there as a kid.
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I am an actual real spartan, my Dads dad came from Sparta in Greece and his father was born there etc,
I grew up there as a kid.
Rumor has it that your grandfather killed 74 persians in one day :o
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Rumor has it that your grandfather killed 74 persians in one day :o
LOL, i don't doubt it mayne, they were crazy mofos back in them wars with the Arabs,
You had to live first, because only the best Spartans survived the ritual of been left outside as babies for a while to see if the baby survied,
But we obviously don't do that today, however we have a code of pride we carry with us, and we seem to be more violent than the rest of the Greeks, my grandfather passed away in 1998, when i was a kid, before his passing he used to be the enforcer of the house and when i fucked up i would get a beating with a 2x4 and couldn't walk for a day after that, and so i had quite a few beating under my belt as i was a disturbed kid, fighting all the neibourhood kids, killing peoples animals, setting fires to stuff, playing with guns, i once even stole a demolition mans dynamite to sell it to some other dudes.
But don't believe all the Hollywood shit, we were much more violent than people think, we would kill anyone including other Greeks just to prove we were superior race.
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LOL, i don't doubt it mayne, they were crazy mofos back in them wars with the Arabs,
You had to live first, because only the best Spartans survived the ritual of been left outside as babies for a while to see if the baby survied,
But we obviously don't do that today, however we have a code of pride we carry with us, and we seem to be more violent than the rest of the Greeks, my grandfather passed away in 1998, when i was a kid, before his passing he used to be the enforcer of the house and when i fucked up i would get a beating with a 2x4 and couldn't walk for a day after that, and so i had quite a few beating under my belt as i was a disturbed kid, fighting all the neibourhood kids, killing peoples animals, setting fires to stuff, playing with guns, i once even stole a demolition mans dynamite to sell it to some other dudes.
But don't believe all the Hollywood shit, we were much more violent than people think, we would kill anyone including other Greeks just to prove we were superior race.
Your grandfather was teaching you to be a man like King Leonidas. There's a persian looking guy on getbig that goes by the name of Xerxes. He has laid out a challenge to all Spartans. Claiming he will forcefully take your land and water, and enslave your people! Crush him!
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Your grandfather was teaching you to be a man like King Leonidas. There's a persian looking guy on getbig that goes by the name of Xerxes. He has laid out a challenge to all Spartans. Claiming he will forcefully take your land and water, and enslave your people! Crush him!
Persians are ugly girls anyway, they got owned by the Greeks and left in a hurry, i will own any persian!!!!
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Persians are ugly girls anyway, they got owned by the Greeks and left in a hurry, i will own any persian!!!!
you may be right...back in the day we turks used to crush the persians too but also the greeks ;D
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you may be right...back in the day we turks used to crush the persians too but also the greeks ;D
Yes but back in the Spartan glory days, no turk or persian, could have defeated the Spartans, plus the turks attacked Greece in peacetime from behind and we were out numbered 100:1, even though the turks tried to force us to become muslims for the 400 years they occupied turkey they never succeeded because we had underground cities that would teach our language and culture so that we wouldn't become muslims.
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Yes but back in the Spartan glory days, no turk or persian, could have defeated the Spartans, plus the turks attacked Greece in peacetime from behind and we were out numbered 100:1, even though the turks tried to force us to become muslims for the 400 years they occupied turkey they never succeeded because we had underground cities that would teach our language and culture so that we wouldn't become muslims.
;) i'm just joking i like greeks
nowadays turks have no probs with greeks
i just can't stand these kurdish terrorist sons of bitches
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Whats your opinion on the murdered Martyr Saddam Hussein Al Tikriti Majed (pbh), Ironneck?
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Mars, who do you think has/had better genetics for bodybuilding - Dreamer or Saddam Hussein?
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How dare you to place this dreamer in the same sentence with the legend Saddam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whats your opinion on the murdered Martyr Saddam Hussein Al Tikriti Majed (pbh), Ironneck?
i liked saddam...he killed thousands of kurdish people
he is like hitler just way cooler
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i liked saddam...he killed thousands of kurdish people
he is like hitler just way cooler
Maybe they made him angry?
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Another thread slides into the abyss.
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Maybe they made him angry?
yes that must be the reason
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yes that must be the reason
Haha i remember he was saying to my uncle who was a high ranking general in the iraqi army, "i can give you everything, just don't make me angry" haha i love it when he brings up good stories about him.
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Haha i remember he was saying to my uncle who was a high ranking general in the iraqi army, "i can give you everything, just don't make me angry" haha i love it when he brings up good stories about him.
so you are a dutch iraqi?
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no, my dutch aunt lives in Qatar and is married with an iraqi.
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LOL ,AT BOBBING SADDAM!!
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whats funny about that "spartanhulkandnumber"?
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no, my dutch aunt lives in Qatar and is married with an iraqi.
i see
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;) i'm just joking i like greeks
nowadays turks have no probs with greeks
i just can't stand these kurdish terrorist sons of bitches
Well i have the full spartan armor and shield, sword, helmet, dagger at home so if any persians want to F#$@ with me, bring your little sword with you and ill shove my sword through your hart, kill your dog and ravage your city of its females.
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!
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whats funny about that "spartanhulkandnumber"?
It looks like saddam is having a good time there, by the way my dad is the spitting image of saddam.
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i see
Here is my uncle on the right in conversation with his excellency Saddam Hussein.
(http://i13.tinypic.com/6chfw20.jpg)
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Brutal baldness but still got a mullet. Respect.
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haha he's making fun of that all the time, hes a class act.
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It looks like saddam is having a good time there, by the way my dad is the spitting image of saddam.
PROOF THAT SADDAM LIVES IN AUSTRALIA!!!
(http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/2ce80cf809.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
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Haha i like this pic.
(http://i10.tinypic.com/4l56as1.jpg)
Son of his excellency on the right.
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Haha i like this pic.
(http://i10.tinypic.com/4l56as1.jpg)
Son of his excellency on the right.
You know i think Saddam did alright in his country, at least when he was in power he kept people in line and taught how to be productive, now theres over a million civilians dead which is not good.
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haha mars you funny bastard ;D
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Persians are ugly girls anyway, they got owned by the Greeks and left in a hurry, i will own any persian!!!!
haha.
Greeks have honor, pride and culture.
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i just can't stand these kurdish terrorist sons of bitches
I systematically smack Kurds with a clenched fist and CRUSH THEM.
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I systematically smack Kurds with a clenched fist and CRUSH THEM.
Did you see my fathers pic above, wouldn't you agree he looks like Saddam?
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You know i think Saddam did alright in his country, at least when he was in power he kept people in line and taught how to be productive, now theres over a million civilians dead which is not good.
Sad but true
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that is a great avatar
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I systematically smack Kurds with a clenched fist and CRUSH THEM.
haha
LOL
i believe you..really i do
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haha
LOL
i believe you..really i do
I called a Turkish guy at my school a 'kurd' for a joke, and he didnt laugh...he actually got pissed off.
similar to when I made a serbian war death hand sign to a croatian in latin class...he wanted to attack me.
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I called a Turkish guy at my school a 'kurd' for a joke, and he didnt laugh...he actually got pissed off.
similar to when I made a serbian war death hand sign to a croatian in latin class...he wanted to attack me.
hahahaha serbian war death hand sign
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hahahaha serbian war death hand sign
Yes its true i know how to do that too, its very common in Sydney.
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Team Dreamer seems to lack focus. What updates on progress have you?
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Team Dreamer seems to lack focus. What updates on progress have you?
Dreamer is looking to impress my friend, me and DL5 have fine tuned his program and you will see a new DREAMER very shortly,
So any haters can just wait and see!
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Dreamer is looking to impress my friend, me and DL5 have fine tuned his program and you will see a new DREAMER very shortly,
So any haters can just wait and see!
a soldier in the Fat Wars
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Team Dreamer seems to lack focus. What updates on progress have you?
Yes, I know. I will contact Dreamer and let u know.
despite the rumours about me....I actually do have a life ;D
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Yes, I know. I will contact Dreamer and let u know.
despite the rumours about me....I actually do have a life ;D
If only you would follow your own advice, DL5... :-\
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Yes its true i know how to do that too, its very common in Sydney.
Can you take a pic of it. I wanto see what it looks like. :)
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Can you take a pic of it. I wanto see what it looks like. :)
Yeah heres one taken just before there was a shooting, these two retards didn't know the magnitude of their actions:
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k82/GoOutBackTonite7/HPIM0064.jpg)
And heres one from a persom that suffers from retardation, he was shot after this photo was taken
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/theepiplecticbicycle/stuffs/D1000280.jpg)
The tragedy is almost unbearable!
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hahahaha so going by the retard pic it looks like this?? ???
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hahahaha so going by the retard pic it looks like this?? ???
Thats a malaysian i need to shit in your toilet sign.
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Thats a malaysian i need to shit in your toilet sign.
nice! :D
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nice! :D
And this is the nerd geek signs that nerds commonly use, because they are outcasts in society they have formed underground 'terror' groups which one day they will take over human existence with their laptops and desktops, they may look ugly and nerdy with their stupid haircuts dumb dress sense, ugly glasses, and their star wars key rings, but but their interior hides a dangerous side, where they can send a virus to your computer at any time and DESTROY IT!
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/jokerboy151/100_0296.jpg)
BE CAREFUL
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I called a Turkish guy at my school a 'kurd' for a joke, and he didnt laugh...he actually got pissed off.
similar to when I made a serbian war death hand sign to a croatian in latin class...he wanted to attack me.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAH
OH SHIT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks man, you made my day!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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One of the Top Ten threads in Getbig.com history...
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHJAAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAH
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
;D ;D ;D
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I hope Dreamer is OK, there is a thread over at Bodybuilding.com that he killed himself. Dreamer, please let us know if you are alright!!! :o
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
OH SHIT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks man, you made my day!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
no worries my pleasure.
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If only you would follow your own advice, DL5...
feel free to go fuck yourself.
I am in great shape (unlike you).
Have a nice day
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feel free to go fuck yourself.
I am in great shape (unlike you).
Have a nice day
Don't think so H.A.R.R.Y. One could easily expose your "credentials" with one pic.
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Don't think so H.A.R.R.Y. One could easily expose your "credentials" with one pic.
I have never hid my identity...I am on several forums. If i wanted to hide i could have but if anyone such as yourself used their wits they would have noticed. eg- my several h.i.t threads etc. I am on Lee Priest forum, MD and here.
I didn't want to show any pics on getbig until i was ripped because of the flaming.
Here is a current arm shot. Not in shape, But I saw in 3-6 months will be cut up.
(let the flaming begin)
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I have never hid my identity...I am on several forums. If i wanted to hide i could have but if anyone such as yourself used their wits they would have noticed. eg- my several h.i.t threads etc. I am on Lee Priest forum, MD and here.
I didn't want to show any pics on getbig until i was ripped because of the flaming.
Here is a current arm shot. Not in shape, But I saw in 3-6 months will be cut up.
(let the flaming begin)
nice..you'll be up to 13'' in no time
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nice..you'll be up to 13'' in no time
they are probably only 14 inches. my arms are small, my back and legs are my strong body parts.
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i'll take a picture of the "serbian death sign" for you people. give me a chance to try out the new phone camera. give me a minute.
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i'll take a picture of the "serbian death sign" for you people. give me a chance to try out the new phone camera. give me a minute.
ok since the serbian death sign is such a hit. here is how i found out about it.
In the Australian soccer league, a player called bobby despatovsky,was playing in a game where his side was full of serbian ethnic supporters and against a croatian backed club. he scored a winning goal and then flashed the serbian war death hand sign at the fans.
After the game, croatian fans were waiting behind the team bus and ambushed him and the team coach and beat them up viciously.
this made headlines...was one of the funniest things i've ever seen.
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with cigarettes in the background to add to the euro trashiness of it all.
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I hope Dreamer is OK, there is a thread over at Bodybuilding.com that he killed himself. Dreamer, please let us know if you are alright!!! :o
lol i'd be interested in seeing this thread. can you link me lol.
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I have never hid my identity...I am on several forums. If i wanted to hide i could have but if anyone such as yourself used their wits they would have noticed. eg- my several h.i.t threads etc. I am on Lee Priest forum, MD and here.
I didn't want to show any pics on getbig until i was ripped because of the flaming.
Here is a current arm shot. Not in shape, But I saw in 3-6 months will be cut up.
(let the flaming begin)
Hehe. Looks like a bicep, only smaller. :D
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Hehe. Looks like a bicep, only smaller. :D
well i have lost 80 pounds this year.
I will build my body up next year. just getting rid of all the fat. i was drinking jack daniels and eating fries for two and a half years.
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lol i'd be interested in seeing this thread. can you link me lol.
The mods must have deleted it. Glad to see you're still around! Hows the progress? Any pics of your girl?
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The mods must have deleted it. Glad to see you're still around! Hows the progress? Any pics of your girl?
Yer progress is great.
Yer i have pics of my missus. But theres not really any reason to post any more up.
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Yer progress is great.
Yer i have pics of my missus. But theres not really any reason to post any more up.
Oh, I'm inclined to disagree, my friend. ;)
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post a picture of your "missus" analhole after she has taken a dump.