FFS, don't listen to these idiots. Thank the lord you are healthy and fit at that age. Enjoy your children and grandchildren. 180 at 12% is fantastic for a 67 year old! There are some stupid fucks on this board, don't listen to them.
WTF DS....the man wanted opinions and he got them! IF he's going to use he should at least have a clue! I myself personally woudln't be using at that age but I'm not this guy! Would you rather he go in blind? Or at least have a clue if he's going to go through with it? CALM BRO!!!
He is 67 years old. Why on earth would he want to take steroids?
WTF you asking me for? Why not ask him yourself! He obviously does or he wouldn't have created this thread! If anything, he should be talking to his doctor and possibly getting a script. At his age, no one would question a lil HRT on his behalf. MAybe he wants to bring back a lil spark to whatever the fuck he's been missing out on in his life. Who the hell knows. BUT if he wants to use..I'd rather him get solid information and advice than to patronize him. His choice to make, not yours or mine.
WTF you asking me for? Why not ask him yourself! He obviously does or he wouldn't have created this thread! If anything, he should be talking to his doctor and possibly getting a script. At his age, no one would question a lil HRT on his behalf. MAybe he wants to bring back a lil spark to whatever the fuck he's been missing out on in his life. Who the hell knows. BUT if he wants to use..I'd rather him get solid information and advice than to patronize him. His choice to make, not yours or mine.
I tend to have a bit of a conscience. At 67 years old if this dude wants to take gear to fill a void in his life, he should buy a Corvette, at least he won't be killing himself.
At his age, to bring it back, a corvette might be cheaper. Or he should go out and fuck some young skanks that want a more "mature" man. That would make them nutz shake!
Did not mean to cause such a commotion. Thank you, i guess.
Just remember you might not believe it now but 67 is not that far away.
Did not mean to cause such a commotion. Thank you, i guess.
Just remember you might not believe it now but 67 is not that far away.
Most men SHOULD be on HRT doses by your age.
500mg a week is nothing and i bet you will feel 30 again.
Just get all your values checked by a doctor before you try anything.
i know plenty on men in their 50's and 60's who run test and/or GH. it's the fountain of youth and will not harm you at all if you know what you are doing. my uncle is 62 and takes 250mg a week and is banging a hot 40 year old lady. he says he feels like he's in his early 30's again and has sex every day.
might want to go to an endocrinologist and do it the legal way at this point in your life. it's more expensive but will be safer for you.
ignore the idiots above, they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. low doses of test will never hurt you if you do it under a doctors supervision.
good luck.
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You are talking about seeing a physician, big difference.
I think we've all come to an agreement here that he needs to see a physician and look into some HRT
I tend to have a bit of a conscience. At 67 years old if this dude wants to take gear to fill a void in his life, he should buy a Corvette, at least he won't be killing himself.
By the same token if he wants to finish out his remaining years drinking heavily & doing coke that's his choice too.
Well, thats not good advice either. He should sit in a rocking chair and watch The Golden Girls.
I didn't say it was good advice. It's his choice how he wants to live out his remaining years.Agreed
He is 67 years old. Why on earth would he want to take steroids?why not.
Hi gentlemen.
Here is my story. I'm 67 and healthy , worked out for about 45 years (give or take), 5' foot 9 (used to be 5 10), 180, 12% body fat. Wanted to try steroids since about 1980 but never had enough information. This internet stuff is great. i have been reading this forum and others as well as research. I gather that first cycle is;
1-10 Test E
1-6 dbol
12-16 clomid 50 mg / day
12-16 Nolva 20 mg / day
My question is: am i waisting my time? Would Test do anything for me? If it would is there an "age limit" for this stuff to work?
Appreciate your input.
Hi gentlemen.
Here is my story. I'm 67 and healthy , worked out for about 45 years (give or take), 5' foot 9 (used to be 5 10), 180, 12% body fat. Wanted to try steroids since about 1980 but never had enough information. This internet stuff is great. i have been reading this forum and others as well as research. I gather that first cycle is;
1-10 Test E
1-6 dbol
12-16 clomid 50 mg / day
12-16 Nolva 20 mg / day
My question is: am i waisting my time? Would Test do anything for me? If it would is there an "age limit" for this stuff to work?
Appreciate your input.
Took your advice. Made an appointment with endocrinologist for Wed the 12th. Going to hold off starting the cycle until then even though i have all the stuff already. Will get rid of Dbol. Did blood work about one month ego. All numbers are within range. Thank you for your feedback. After reading the first few responses I was discouraged but then constructive advice from Overload, Division, Arnold, and others made me feel much better.
Ad far as "Why at 67?"...Why at 27?37?47?Where is the cut off? I am retired, raised my kids, and bodybuilding has always been part of my life.
Good. Keep us posted as to what you do & your results.
Aye, let us know how you are doing I was out for a few days and wasn't here for your original post, but I personally don't see anything wrong with taking test at 67 so long as you are within healthy ranges. You said you just had blood tests, mind sharing? I would like to know exactly what the whole spectrum was if you don't mind sharing for my own research.
ANYONE who takes steroids should be checked by a doctor every 3-6 months.
Whether he buys them from a source or gets a script makes no difference. he just needs to be monitored by a doctor. I'm 29 and i get checked every 6 weeks.
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How can you justify having bloodwork done every 6weeks ??? ???Maybe he's like me and has someone at the lab who does it for him for free whenever he wants. If that's the case I guess get it done as often as you'd like. I don't' see a point in every 6wks but whatever floats your boat.
How can you justify having bloodwork done every 6weeks ??? ???
If you've got good health insurance your doctor can find numerous reasons for you to have bloodwork done. Shit almost everytime I get a blood test it leads to another & another & another... IMO - they're all for small/petty reasons: basically something only slightly out of the norms.
Took your advice. Made an appointment with endocrinologist for Wed the 12th. Going to hold off starting the cycle until then even though i have all the stuff already. Will get rid of Dbol. Did blood work about one month ego. All numbers are within range. Thank you for your feedback. After reading the first few responses I was discouraged but then constructive advice from Overload, Division, Arnold, and others made me feel much better.
Ad far as "Why at 67?"...Why at 27?37?47?Where is the cut off? I am retired, raised my kids, and bodybuilding has always been part of my life.
Took your advice. Made an appointment with endocrinologist for Wed the 12th. Going to hold off starting the cycle until then even though i have all the stuff already. Will get rid of Dbol. Did blood work about one month ego. All numbers are within range. Thank you for your feedback. After reading the first few responses I was discouraged but then constructive advice from Overload, Division, Arnold, and others made me feel much better.
Ad far as "Why at 67?"...Why at 27?37?47?Where is the cut off? I am retired, raised my kids, and bodybuilding has always been part of my life.
You quoted me so I'm confused are you asking me or him?
I was asking him about the bloodwork, I quoted you in agreement to "Keep us updated". Sorry for the confusion.
Found my bloodwork results...Three pages and most stuff i do not understand. i will list key categories and if you have spesific questions let me know. Here we go...67 yo, 5 9, 180, 12% bf, BP 110/80.
CHOLESTEROL - 165
LDL 0 85
HDL - 80
TRIGLYCERIDES - 112
HEMOGLOBIN - 17%
MCV (Mean Corpuscular Volume) - 85 FL
R.B.C. (Red Blood Cell Count) - 4.8mill/mcL
W.B.C. (White Blood Cell Count)- 7.8thous/mcL
LYMPHOCYTE COUNT - 38%
SODIUM - 141mmol/L
POTASSIUM - 5.0 mmol/L
CO2 - 23 mmol/L
CALCIUM - 9.1 mg/dL
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE - 82.5IU/L
ALT (ALT Alanine Aminotransferase - sGPT) - 29 IU/L
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase - sGOT) - 28 IU/L
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL - 0.75 mg/dL
B.U.N. (Blood Urea Nitrogen) - 18 mg/dL
There is more but my hands are getting tired. Like i said anything specific let me know
How can you justify having bloodwork done every 6weeks ??? ???
I think total Testosterone is 280 ng/dl and free test is 2.1. If it sounds wrong then i am not reading it right.
I think total Testosterone is 280 ng/dl and free test is 2.1. If it sounds wrong then i am not reading it right.
What is the advantage of sustanon over test E. I already have E, but i am aware that there are a number of esters (Cyp, Prop...). I know some are faster acting and need to be injected more often.
Well boys, came back from the doc's office and shot 500 mg of test in my left thigh. He said my Numbers are not low enough to qualify for HRT. taking things into my own hands. i will keep you posted.
Only while "on"...it's my body and my choice. if at any point my levels get out of whack i come off, which has only happen once when i was running Anadrol.
i document everything i do and i care about my health.
plus my doctor is also my uncle so i get a deal. he knows exactly what i'm doing and is helping me document everything to hopefully produce evidence that AAS do not harm you when used correctly.
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Well boys, came back from the doc's office and shot 500 mg of test in my left thigh. He said my Numbers are not low enough to qualify for HRT. taking things into my own hands. i will keep you posted.
So 1 shot and that is it? I wonder why he would do that? It took me 2 weeks to really get a feeling of wellness.
good luck and be safe.
Do you compete?
Most endos/HRT docs won't find these numbers to be too far off for your age. It's probably why you do indeed feel and look better than probably 99% of your same-aged buddies.
That being said, I think you will need to proceed with caution here. My biggest concern would be your ability to recover your own (endogenous) test after removal of the exposure to the pharmaceutical grade (exogenous) test. You may indeed need to be prepared to start true HRT. This would likely include test and low-dose GH for life.
"If it aint broke, don't try to fix it" may apply here.
Having been exposed, and re-exposed, to the dark side, I have no doubt that lifelong HRT with test and GH is in my future. It will just be a matter of deciding when that should start. This will probably be based on how well I can continue to recover from my cycles.
well, how many shots do you expect him to take at once???? :)
i think hes saying that he came back from the doc and is administering "HRT" himself....and stating at 500mgs a shot. (probably 500mg a week...once a week)
Well, a week passed since the first injection. Felt no difference the first 5 days - which did not surprise me since i know it could take 2-3 weeks for test e to kick in. On the 5th day I felt more energetic and alert but I attributed it to placebo affect - I was not expecting results for another week. This morning however could not be attributed to placebo. i jogged to the gym (normally i walk or drive - about 1.5 miles). My usual bench press is 155 lbs for 8 reps - i benched 155 for 11 reps and the only reason i put the bar down was because I did not want to risk injury, i could have done another 2-3 reps. Smith machine shoulder press normally do 95 lbs for 8-10, today did 95 for 13. At the end of the workout was still full of energy and jogged back home. Will check blood pressure later on today. Today is also injection #2 (500 mg). Will keep you updated
Good idea to take it easy, no reason to injure yourself for a few extra reps.yes this is more important at your age. i like that you backed off of it and are not tryin to push your limits to far. This shows you are indeed taking care of yourself. Trust me, after my first cycle i was pumped and jacked and slapped on a couple more plates to the squats thinkin oh yea its not big deal for me now im super man....... then the hernia surgery lol
Good luck!
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also you do need to take into account your natural test levels may not come back after your cycle at this age. so b prepared to stay "on" for remainder of your life.
if you do have to stay "on" permanently maybe cycle hard for 12-15 weeks then drop down to about 250mg a week and cruise there for same amount of time. then back up again
Staying on for good...Someone else told this might be a possibility. What negative/positive consequences might occur?
another thing still pumpin if i where you i would sepereate your shots into twice a week. 250mg one day and 250 couple days later etc.... helps to keep test levels from spiking then fading
why on earth would you want to take roids at your age?! r u after some young 18 year old chick, or looking to mess around with some other broad, and can't "get it up" anymore?! if your test levels are low and you lost your sex drive...take some viagara. ;D
What a ignorant ass-holic statement.Perfecto!
Viagra does nothing for sex-drive and energy or sense of wellbeing.
Hey, he's lived longer than you kid.
Good luck, your gona need it because - Your Not too smart.
BTW Dumbass, AAS were not made w/ the intention of growing 20" arms.
The stuff was made for exactly what he's using it for.
Now run along to your apartment, and see if you can make your rent and car payment this month, Boy.
Appreciate the support Trab. By the way, never needed Viagra.
Hi gentlemen.Old Man i'm 55 and if you want to cycle go for it...Just stick with Test only..You don't need the oral raising your B/P
Here is my story. I'm 67 and healthy , worked out for about 45 years (give or take), 5' foot 9 (used to be 5 10), 180, 12% body fat. Wanted to try steroids since about 1980 but never had enough information. This internet stuff is great. i have been reading this forum and others as well as research. I gather that first cycle is;
1-10 Test E
1-6 dbol
12-16 clomid 50 mg / day
12-16 Nolva 20 mg / day
My question is: am i waisting my time? Would Test do anything for me? If it would is there an "age limit" for this stuff to work?
Appreciate your input.
strength going up...now bench 155 for 17 reps. 2 days ego squatted for the first time in about 15 years. I feel i guess "fuller" is the only way to describe it like I have air inside me that permeates every cell. Will go to Doc for blood work next week. No negative sides yet, blood pressure still 110/75, so far so good.
Now is the time to increase the weights do weights you can get 8-12 reps with, progressive resistance. Take advantage of your new strength.yup keep an eye on that bad boy lol
Also you mat want to make sure you are watching your prostate. Pretty much can guarantee it will enlarge.
FFS, don't listen to these idiots. Thank the lord you are healthy and fit at that age. Enjoy your children and grandchildren. 180 at 12% is fantastic for a 67 year old! There are some stupid fucks on this board, don't listen to them.
It is 2 years older than my dad and if someone told him to juice I would kick their teeth out.
Or try to kick there teeth out. Take some time and research steroids for older men his age. It seems to be perfectly fine.
Started week 4 this morning. Still taking 500 mg/week. This stuff is like miracle oil!!! Beyond the increase in energy, mood, and strength i feel like a new man. And the pumps!!! Let me ask you is it normal for the tris to get so full of blood that the arms would not straighten out. The interesting thing is my weight went from 180 to now 187 but i begin to see abs and striations on the chest, and shoulders!!! Where is the water retention??? I went from driving to the gym and back to jugging to the gym, work out, swim, and then jug back. I don't know if i should continue to write updates every week but i would like to thank all of you who helped me out with solid advice. All the best.
He is 67 years old. Why on earth would he want to take steroids?
Started week 4 this morning. Still taking 500 mg/week. This stuff is like miracle oil!!! Beyond the increase in energy, mood, and strength i feel like a new man. And the pumps!!! Let me ask you is it normal for the tris to get so full of blood that the arms would not straighten out. The interesting thing is my weight went from 180 to now 187 but i begin to see abs and striations on the chest, and shoulders!!! Where is the water retention??? I went from driving to the gym and back to jugging to the gym, work out, swim, and then jug back. I don't know if i should continue to write updates every week but i would like to thank all of you who helped me out with solid advice. All the best.Sounds like it's going great...just like I knew it would :) Definitely keep us updated, I'm really interested in how this goes for you in the long term...I expect nothing but good things!
Here we go week 5. This past week more strength increase - benched 185 for 8 (stop before failure). Squats are now part of my routine - still going lite though to get the form right (did not squat in ?? years). Size is on the increase as well, turning some heads. Skin appears to be more "stretched" wrinkles dissapearing (on the body more then face). I begin to understand what some of you were referring to in regards to sex drive.
Still no negative sides - hair is intact, no acne, if i do hold water it is not noticeable, BP good, blood test scheduled for 10-24.
Trab thanks for all the advice and info.
Will update next week.
Week 6. more of the same - strength continues to increase, scale reads 189 (was 180 before cycle) bf still at 12%. Overall a feeling of wellbeing and optimism. The pumps during workout are getting to be a little annoying though. My triceps especially get so pumped that after 2-3 sets i find it difficult to continue. i only have enough Test left for another 7 weeks. The way i feel now... i don;t want to stop. What also worries me is that like some of you said i might have to stay on if my natural test will not kick in. My endo made it clear he would not prescribe and my gym guy is nowhere to be found. If anyone has advice how to go about getting more Test please let me know.Yeah, find you another doctor who will prescribe HRT...not doing so at your age is ridiculous.
Blood test next week. Will let you know how it went.