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Title: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on September 21, 2007, 11:23:38 AM
I can't believe this insanity. We're nearly 6 years into Iraq and it's still a giant clusterfukk yet here we are on the verge of starting another war.

At some point this insanity has to come to an end, 15 months can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: headhuntersix on September 21, 2007, 11:25:49 AM
Bush doesn't want to leave a Nuclear Iran....I agree with that premiss but the timing sucks.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: OzmO on September 21, 2007, 03:56:43 PM
A nuclear Iran is an inevitability. 

The only way to stop it is to invade and conquer and we'll have 3 more Iraqs as Iran is 3 times the size
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 21, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
how are we 'about to start another war'??
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on September 21, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
What you didn't know?

We're about to carry out massive bombing raids on Cuba, it's going to get ugly. Bush wants to get rid of that old bastard commie once and for all before his second term is done.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Al-Gebra on September 21, 2007, 07:38:35 PM
What you didn't know?

We're about to carry out massive bombing raids on Cuba, it's going to get ugly. Bush wants to get rid of that old bastard commie once and for all before his second term is done.

 ;D be gentle w John Matrix.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 21, 2007, 11:09:01 PM
how are we 'about to start another war'??
lol
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 21, 2007, 11:10:55 PM
OH SHIT... What would happen to me if we go to war with Venezuela :-\
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: WOOO on September 22, 2007, 04:38:03 AM
attacking iran would be a horrible mistake
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Stark on September 22, 2007, 07:40:10 AM
attacking iran would be a horrible mistake

The US will not send troops into Iran, they are either bombing them back into the Stoneage or Isreal will use their forces to "invade" Iran while the US gives them heavy airsupport cruise missle support asf.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Al-Gebra on September 22, 2007, 11:22:06 AM
 Ahmadinejad warns against attack
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has issued a tough warning to any country considering an attack on Iran.

He said Iran's forces were just for defence, but that anybody who attacked would experience nothing but regret.

He urged those he called the occupiers in the region - an apparent reference to the US and its allies in Iraq - to admit defeat and withdraw their troops.

Mr Ahmadinejad was speaking at a huge annual military parade marking the anniversary of the Iran-Iraq War.

On display at the parade was Iran's latest military hardware, including new long-range missiles and Saeqeh fighter jets.

According to the Associated Press news agency some of the lorries carrying Iranian missiles bore anti-US and anti-Israeli slogans.

"Those who prevented Iran, at the height of the [1980-88 Iran-Iraq] war from getting even barbed wire must see now that all the equipment on display today has been built by the mighty hands and brains of experts at Iran's armed forces," Mr Ahmadinejad said.

"Learn lessons from your past mistakes. Don't repeat your mistakes," he added.

UN address

His comments come ahead of his high-profile visit to the US next week, where he will address the UN General Assembly in New York, amid continuing tension over Iran's nuclear programme.

Mr Ahmadinejad said that neither threats nor economic sanctions would curb Iran's technological advances.

"Those [countries] who assume that decaying methods such as psychological war, political propaganda and the so-called economic sanctions would work and prevent Iran's fast drive toward progress are mistaken," the president said.

The speech comes at the end of a tense week, with the French Foreign Minister, Bernard Kouchner, warning of the danger of war with Iran over its nuclear programme.

The BBC's Jon Leyne in Tehran says Mr Ahmadinejad believes he is winning the battle for world opinion - a fight he is now taking to the UN General Assembly in New York.

The US has called for a third round of UN economic sanctions to pressure Iran into halting uranium enrichment, which it says is part of a secret plan to acquire nuclear weapons.

Iran has denied the charge, declaring that its nuclear programme is peaceful and solely aimed at producing energy.

Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: CQ on September 22, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
What you didn't know?

We're about to carry out massive bombing raids on Cuba, it's going to get ugly. Bush wants to get rid of that old bastard commie once and for all before his second term is done.

I missed the sarcasm for a brief moment and I was like "oh nooooooooo" and envisioned myself getting blown up by a misfired bomb :D
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: JBGRAY on September 22, 2007, 11:49:56 AM
I can't believe this insanity. We're nearly 6 years into Iraq and it's still a giant clusterfukk yet here we are on the verge of starting another war.

At some point this insanity has to come to an end, 15 months can't come soon enough.

Oh, as if Clinton, Obama, or Edwards of the DEms or Rudy, Romney, or Thompson of the Repubs would do anything different?  They still bow to foreign interest groups, particularily Israel, and all realize that being involved in some sort of war is good for the survivial of the economy.  The frontrunners of each party know that the US needs oil and know that it takes very unpopular decisions to obtain it.  Both parties LIE, LIE, LIE...one purports to want to end the war immediately, the other states repeatedly that terrorists are rampant everywhere looking to kill millions of americans.  Alternative energy sources?  Not by a long shot, with how influential Big Oil is on Capitol Hill and the economic ramifications of rapidly displacing oil as a main energy source. 

The only candidates who are telling the truth and are willing to steer away from this are Dennis Kucinich, D-OH, and Ron Paul, R-TX.  But we all know how those two are alone have frequenlty been the target of media smear campaigns, poll manipulations, and often get left out of debates.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Stark on September 22, 2007, 11:55:38 AM
Oh, as if Clinton, Obama, or Edwards of the DEms or Rudy, Romney, or Thompson of the Repubs would do anything different?  They still bow to foreign interest groups, particularily Israel, and all realize that being involved in some sort of war is good for the survivial of the economy.  The frontrunners of each party know that the US needs oil and know that it takes very unpopular decisions to obtain it.  Both parties LIE, LIE, LIE...one purports to want to end the war immediately, the other states repeatedly that terrorists are rampant everywhere looking to kill millions of americans.  Alternative energy sources?  Not by a long shot, with how influential Big Oil is on Capitol Hill and the economic ramifications of rapidly displacing oil as a main energy source. 

The only candidates who are telling the truth and are willing to steer away from this are Dennis Kucinich, D-OH, and Ron Paul, R-TX.  But we all know how those two are alone have frequenlty been the target of media smear campaigns, poll manipulations, and often get left out of debates.

Well said...
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 22, 2007, 02:00:53 PM
Iran is close to Israel.

Only a matter of time before we have to start a war with them.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 22, 2007, 04:21:19 PM
That nutjob for a prez of Iran has to be sacked..
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: 24KT on September 22, 2007, 05:27:24 PM
I missed the sarcasm for a brief moment and I was like "oh nooooooooo" and envisioned myself getting blown up by a misfired bomb :D

The way things are going... it can be difficult to distinguish between farfetched sarcasm, and Bush foreign policy.
Both seem to bear an uncanny resemblance to each other day after day, ...so don't feel so bad.  ;D
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 22, 2007, 07:14:37 PM
That nutjob for a prez of Iran has to be sacked..

It's a good thing hs doesn't have the ability to make war, LOL! He'd be startng a war every few years for one reason or another.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: 24KT on September 22, 2007, 08:59:16 PM
It's a good thing hs doesn't have the ability to make war, LOL! He'd be startng a war every few years for one reason or another.

{giggle} Jake, ...where's your Don King haircut?  ;)
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 22, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
{giggle} Jake, ...where's your Don King haircut?  ;)

Judi,

Iranians were responsible for 911. :)

Remember... "A nuclear Iran would destabilize the entire region".
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: 24KT on September 22, 2007, 10:03:23 PM
Judi,

Iranians were responsible for 911. :)

First it was bin Laden, then AlQ cells, then Afghans, ...then it was Saddam and the Iraqi's, ...now the Persians?
Who the heck can keep up? I'm sleepy... wake me when they start blaming Canadians for 911.

Quote

Remember... "A nuclear Iran would destabilize the entire region".

And we all know the middle east is an extremely stable region... and has been for years huh?

Personally I think the focus is incorrectly placed. It is India & China that together have the ability to forever tip the economic balance for decades to come. Those are the ties that need to be shored up, solidified and made more concrete to be in the best interests of the West.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 22, 2007, 11:48:15 PM
Judi,

Iranians were responsible for 911. :)

Remember... "A nuclear Iran would destabilize the entire region".

To bad the libs will never understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Stark on September 23, 2007, 03:43:34 AM
Judi,

Iranians were responsible for 911. :)

Remember... "A nuclear Iran would destabilize the entire region".

B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 23, 2007, 04:33:12 AM
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T

They also killed Jesus. :)
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: WOOO on September 23, 2007, 04:36:44 AM
The US will not send troops into Iran, they are either bombing them back into the Stoneage or Isreal will use their forces to "invade" Iran while the US gives them heavy airsupport cruise missle support asf.


they do not have enough bombs to flatten the iranian military... unless they go nuclear
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: CQ on September 25, 2007, 06:54:38 PM
First it was bin Laden, then AlQ cells, then Afghans, ...then it was Saddam and the Iraqi's, ...now the Persians?
Who the heck can keep up? I'm sleepy... wake me when they start blaming Canadians for 911.

Yes I know....I am in the same boat.

If the Caribbean ever starts catching blame, and we are going to be bombed - someone here have the courtesy to send me a quick pm to warn me plz.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 25, 2007, 07:16:39 PM
Yes I know....I am in the same boat.

If the Caribbean ever starts catching blame, and we are going to be bombed - someone here have the courtesy to send me a quick pm to warn me plz.

There's no telling where the search for WMD may lead us....
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 25, 2007, 09:07:53 PM
It's a good thing hs doesn't have the ability to make war, LOL! He'd be startng a war every few years for one reason or another.
hmmm... sounds familiar...
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: headhuntersix on September 26, 2007, 08:53:19 AM

they do not have enough bombs to flatten the iranian military... unless they go nuclear



Nope we have plenty....
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: drkaje on September 26, 2007, 10:55:39 AM
hmmm... sounds familiar...

I don't know what you're talking about. :)
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: pumpher on September 26, 2007, 03:53:00 PM
Keep trying...you've might "win" a war sooner or later  :P
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 26, 2007, 05:53:02 PM
we are winning the wars, you goofs!


Was the real goal EVER to occupy and conquer and change everyone there?  Or was the goal just to grab the oil?

If the goal was to grab the oil, then it's working.  We have secured oil pipeline in afghanistan.  We just signed rights to all Kurdish oil.  Texas owns iraqi oil now. 

It makes sense, doesnt it?  We're about to start a 3rd war.  It'll be just like the other 2, won't it?  Sustained chaos, install a govt made of friendlies, then the nations sign over oil exploration rights to the US.

We ARE winning, you silly rabbits :)   We have oil from 2/3 of the nations on our target sheet.  Iran is next. 
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 26, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
we are winning the wars, you goofs!


Was the real goal EVER to occupy and conquer and change everyone there?  Or was the goal just to grab the oil?

If the goal was to grab the oil, then it's working.  We have secured oil pipeline in afghanistan.  We just signed rights to all Kurdish oil.  Texas owns iraqi oil now. 

It makes sense, doesnt it?  We're about to start a 3rd war.  It'll be just like the other 2, won't it?  Sustained chaos, install a govt made of friendlies, then the nations sign over oil exploration rights to the US.

We ARE winning, you silly rabbits :)   We have oil from 2/3 of the nations on our target sheet.  Iran is next. 

its too easy.

whatever happened to the days when we had a formidable rival/challenge?
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: big L dawg on September 26, 2007, 11:43:50 PM
visit zeitgeistmovie.com  should clear things up for you people.thats if you can fit the two hours required to watch it into your busy and important lives.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: headhuntersix on September 27, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
its too easy.

whatever happened to the days when we had a formidable rival/challenge?

IED's are cheaper then rows of Tanks
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: big L dawg on September 27, 2007, 12:35:29 PM
ok guess no one has the time to watch it.
Title: Re: After nearly 6 years of failure we're about to start another war.
Post by: 24KT on September 27, 2007, 10:33:48 PM
we are winning the wars, you goofs!


Was the real goal EVER to occupy and conquer and change everyone there?  Or was the goal just to grab the oil?

If the goal was to grab the oil, then it's working.  We have secured oil pipeline in afghanistan.  We just signed rights to all Kurdish oil.  Texas owns iraqi oil now. 

It makes sense, doesnt it?  We're about to start a 3rd war.  It'll be just like the other 2, won't it?  Sustained chaos, install a govt made of friendlies, then the nations sign over oil exploration rights to the US.

We ARE winning, you silly rabbits :)   We have oil from 2/3 of the nations on our target sheet.  Iran is next. 

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Holy Cow!!!
Four and a half years into a war, ...and still no one can decisively say what the original objective was?!?
That is so seriously messed up. {lol}