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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: Lifter4Life on September 22, 2007, 10:18:57 PM
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Better think b4 jumping into the UFC. They seem to be having a Rough transition, ya know..
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like i said in my post. there is no way these guys from pride should be losing by what is suppose to be there strengths
ex. cro cop head kick
shogun rear naked choke
seems strange to me
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They're slackers. They come in thinking they're the stuff and don't want to put the effort or the gameplans in to win.
Regardless, Rampage was a Pride fighter for years and I'm pretty sure he systematically dismantled the FACE of the UFC. ;)
And all Pride and UFC fans regarded Shogun as #1 in the world, not just the Pride fanboys. He'll bounce back regardless. But hey, let's bring the UFC vs Pride thing to Getbig now. Nobody gets enough of it on Sherdog. ::)
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They're slackers. They come in thinking they're the stuff and don't want to put the effort or the gameplans in to win.
Regardless, Rampage was a Pride fighter for years and I'm pretty sure he systematically dismantled the FACE of the UFC. ;)
And all Pride and UFC fans regarded Shogun as #1 in the world, not just the Pride fanboys. He'll bounce back regardless. But hey, let's bring the UFC vs Pride thing to Getbig now. Nobody gets enough of it on Sherdog. ::)
Tear down all your PRIDE posters yet, Nicky? :D
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Tear down all your PRIDE posters yet, Nicky? :D
Do you like how my ball sweat tastes? Why would I tear them down? Rampage is a Pride vet and he single handedly annihilated the face of the UFC for the last 4 years.
I got over the Pride vs UFC argument months ago, you know when the UFC bought Pride and they became one organization? Ahh, what would I expect a 110 pound twink TUF fanboy to know. :o
But go on, I'll bet you're the only person on the planet that had Griffin over Shogun. ::)
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Do you like how my ball sweat tastes? Why would I tear them down? Rampage is a Pride vet and he single handedly annihilated the face of the UFC for the last 4 years.
I think Henderson is over rated tbh. I liken Liddell to the Rams of the early 2000's, you knew someone was going to finally be able to figure out how to beat them, looks like people are finally figuring out how to beat Chuck. 205 is stacked though, Rampage will get lots of opportunities to prove how good he is. I wonder who he is fighting next? Anyone hear any rumors?
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I think Henderson is over rated tbh. I liken Liddell to the Rams of the early 2000's, you knew someone was going to finally be able to figure out how to beat them, looks like people are finally figuring out how to beat Chuck. 205 is stacked though, Rampage will get lots of opportunities to prove how good he is. I wonder who he is fighting next? Anyone hear any rumors?
You think Hendo is overrated? hahaha, that might be the dumbest comment you've made yet. He just took Page to a decision, didn't he? Held a belt in two Pride classes, and is most likely the #2 LHW behind Rampage right now.
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You think Hendo is overrated? hahaha, that might be the dumbest comment you've made yet. He just took Page to a decision, didn't he? Held a belt in two Pride classes, and is most likely the #2 LHW behind Rampage right now.
I thought you had Shogun ahead of him yesterday? I think Rampage is over rated as well. Same with Shogun, I honestly don't think Pride had that much talent. Try not to take it so personal.
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There are two champs who rolled over the ufc champs already, Silva and Jackson. I think what some fighters from pride are having a hard time with is competing off drugs. In pride everyone was cranked to the MAX not to mention the huge lines of coke they would do before they fought take that away from a guy who was been doing it for 5 years or more and you got a problem. I have never seen shogun fight like shit, but he couldn't even catch his breath after the first round. In pride the first round is 10 minutes not 5 mins. And he would go crazy throwing everything and never get tired. Take away the drugs and if your not used to it your performance just went down the shitter. Sorry just a fact.
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Do you like how my ball sweat tastes? Why would I tear them down? Rampage is a Pride vet and he single handedly annihilated the face of the UFC for the last 4 years.
I got over the Pride vs UFC argument months ago, you know when the UFC bought Pride and they became one organization? Ahh, what would I expect a 110 pound twink TUF fanboy to know. :o
But go on, I'll bet you're the only person on the planet that had Griffin over Shogun. ::)
C'mon Horseface, you know you've never had the pleasure of having your nuts tasted. Have your balls even dropped yet, kid? :-\
When PRIDE wasn't a part of the UFC, they were "superior" in your starstruck fanboy eyes. Their champions were so superior that they would destroy anything the UFC had to offer. Where is the PRIDE arrogance now, horseface?
By the way, the "TUF Fanboy" line you have been using for some time on this board is massively played out. ;) You would think after you were exposed as a funny-looking PRIDE fanboy named Nick Hersch with no real martial arts background that you'd come up with some better shit then that.
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I thought you had Shogun ahead of him yesterday? I think Rampage is over rated as well. Same with Shogun, I honestly don't think Pride had that much talent. Try not to take it so personal.
Rampage is overrated? So you're saying every 205 in the world is overrated seeing as he's the belt holder.
I'm not taking it personal, but you're the biggest armchair quarterback on this forum with this stuff, considering you've been watching MMA for what? A year maybe?
You're good for one retarded comment a week. I'll give you that.
Everyone said Pride was a better org. Everyone but the newcomers like you who think they know what they're talking about. ;D
There are two champs who rolled over the ufc champs already, Silva and Jackson. I think what some fighters from pride are having a hard time with is competing off drugs. In pride everyone was cranked to the MAX not to mention the huge lines of coke they would do before they fought take that away from a guy who was been doing it for 5 years or more and you got a problem. I have never seen shogun fight like shit, but he couldn't even catch his breath after the first round. In pride the first round is 10 minutes not 5 mins. And he would go crazy throwing everything and never get tired. Take away the drugs and if your not used to it your performance just went down the shitter. Sorry just a fact.
Exactly. I was going to write up a thread about this on here but I decided against it. I'm thinking that the fact that Pride wasn't tested is the factor. The majority of these guys were probably using something, and now that they're off it, they're not back into condition. Anyone who knows MMA knows that the Shogun who fought last night was nothing like the one of the last 3 years.
Let's not forget the biggest armchair QB on here, Benny Blanco. You're like 48 aren't you? Trying to relive your glory days through MMA and posting no pics on a forum? I didn't bother reading your reply because I could just see the overuse of emoticons and knew that you probably melted down. Keep smashing that keyboard kid.
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Shogun is a beast, he just has to change what he has been doing all his fighting life. I am sure once he adjusts he will be the killer he once was.
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Rampage is overrated? So you're saying every 205 in the world is overrated seeing as he's the belt holder.
I'm not taking it personal, but you're the biggest armchair quarterback on this forum with this stuff, considering you've been watching MMA for what? A year maybe?
You think that because you get visibly upset on the MMA forums that makes you know more than everyone else? I never though Pride was better. The Grand Prixs were fun to watch. But to say Pride was better would be an opinion, not a fact. I happened to like the UFC.
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Shogun is a beast, he just has to change what he has been doing all his fighting life. I am sure once he adjusts he will be the killer he once was.
We keep hearing this about Pride fighters, adjust to what? He was fighting Forrest Griffin. If you can't beat him, you have a tough hill to climb.
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Shogun is a beast, he just has to change what he has been doing all his fighting life. I am sure once he adjusts he will be the killer he once was.
No doubt. The guy's 26. I'm willing to bet he won't lose in the rest of 07 or 08.
You think that because you get visibly upset on the MMA forums that makes you know more than everyone else? I never though Pride was better. The Grand Prixs were fun to watch. But to say Pride was better would be an opinion, not a fact. I happened to like the UFC.
Just like your saying UFC is better is an opinion? The fact is that you've been following MMA for what? Not even a year now? You giving your opinion of Pride based on 3 fights when a PRIDE can is now holding the UFC belt is just stupid. You sound like every moron on Sherdog.
What's funny though, I never badmouth the UFC, just their fans. You have a vendetta against Pride, maybe because you never really got to watch it or something?
We keep hearing this about Pride fighters, adjust to what? He was fighting Forrest Griffin. If you can't beat him, you have a tough hill to climb.
Rampage Jackson.
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We keep hearing this about Pride fighters, adjust to what? He was fighting Forrest Griffin. If you can't beat him, you have a tough hill to climb.
Did you read my first post?
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What's funny though, I never badmouth the UFC, just their fans. You have a vendetta against Pride, maybe because you never really got to watch it or something?
I have Comcast I watched it all the time. AGAIN, what difference does it make what fighters I like?
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Did you read my first post?
Yes, I agree. I am not sure about fighting on blow, but I do think they were juiced. Take that away and they have a tough time training and fighting like they used to.
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Trust me they fought on blow, I know guys who have gone down to Pat's camp in the states and this is just common knowledge. Ken Shamrock always did blow before he fought until they started testing.
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Trust me they fought on blow, I know guys who have gone down to Pat's camp in the states and this is just common knowledge. Ken Shamrock always did blow before he fought until they started testing.
Yeah, can't do that in the UFC. Are there any more big names from Pride that can come over other than Fedor?
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Yeah, can't do that in the UFC. Are there any more big names from Pride that can come over other than Fedor?
Plenty, Gomi,Arona,Lil Nog,Hunt,Yoshida,Fedors bro,Barnett.
Gomi would be favorite over Sherk.
Arona and Lil Nog could challenge for the belt..Yosh is a LHW sometimes and HW..too many freakshow fights he had in Pride.
Hunt can do some damage..best striker in MMA...and Fedors bro can too. Barnett can be champion...he did own Randy once already.
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Plenty, Gomi,Arona,Lil Nog,Hunt,Yoshida,Fedors bro,Barnett.
Gomi would be favorite over Sherk.
Arona and Lil Nog could challenge for the belt..Yosh is a LHW sometimes and HW..too many freakshow fights he had in Pride.
Hunt can do some damage..best striker in MMA...and Fedors bro can too. Barnett can be champion...he did own Randy once already.
Yeah, could get interesting. Problem is that outside of the forums, no one knows these guys. Like when Wanderlei walked into the ring, half the crowd didn't know who the fuck he was. I say stop hyping them up so much and let them earn their fame over here. I know it sucks for them, but you can "pimp" a fighter to the American public all you want, but when they keep losing you start to look like an idiot, I am sure Dana is beginning to realize that. ;D
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Its MMA...the Pride fighters are bound to lose...but at the end of the day its whos left standing....odds are its going to be a Pride fighter.
Randy is HW champ...will he run through Fedor,Nog and Barnett???? I'd be surprise if he beats one of them. Fedor and Nog have been 1-2 forever at HW. Barnett is a bad matchup for Couture.
Gomi will be a heavy favorite over Sherk and I would pick him to win. BJ did beat Gomi years back but he has improved since then. I would love to see BJ/Gomi 2.
The LHW division will be owned by Pride fighters...Rampage is champ....who do the UFC have that can beat him??? Tito..lol...Forrest...he did beat Shogun...but Rampage will not gas and will strike with Forrest and KO him. Machida is a former K-1 fighter so he doesnt count as a UFC original.
The MW division....Silva is champ...dont see a UFC beating him either. Maybe if they bring in Lindland a UFC original then maybe. But Hendo would beat him I am sure....yes a Pride fighter. ;D
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Its MMA...the Pride fighters are bound to lose...but at the end of the day its whos left standing....odds are its going to be a Pride fighter.
Randy is HW champ...will he run through Fedor,Nog and Barnett???? I'd be surprise if he beats one of them. Fedor and Nog have been 1-2 forever at HW. Barnett is a bad matchup for Couture.
Gomi will be a heavy favorite over Sherk and I would pick him to win. BJ did beat Gomi years back but he has improved since then. I would love to see BJ/Gomi 2.
The LHW division will be owned by Pride fighters...Rampage is champ....who do the UFC have that can beat him??? Tito..lol...Forrest...he did beat Shogun...but Rampage will not gas and will strike with Forrest and KO him. Machida is a former K-1 fighter so he doesnt count as a UFC original.
The MW division....Silva is champ...dont see a UFC beating him either. Maybe if they bring in Lindland a UFC original then maybe. But Hendo would beat him I am sure....yes a Pride fighter. ;D
I like Anderson Silva. My point was that Dana keeps hyping up these guys who the majority of the fans don't know and they keep losing. Doesn't make sense to keep doing it. Bring em over quiet and let them earn their respect. Dana can not be happy that Shogun couldn't even beat Forrest last night. Long term, who knows who will have the better fighters, but I for one am getting sick of seeing these guys hyped up just to come over and fight like shit.
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Its MMA...the Pride fighters are bound to lose...but at the end of the day its whos left standing....odds are its going to be a Pride fighter.
Randy is HW champ...will he run through Fedor,Nog and Barnett???? I'd be surprise if he beats one of them. Fedor and Nog have been 1-2 forever at HW. Barnett is a bad matchup for Couture.
Gomi will be a heavy favorite over Sherk and I would pick him to win. BJ did beat Gomi years back but he has improved since then. I would love to see BJ/Gomi 2.
The LHW division will be owned by Pride fighters...Rampage is champ....who do the UFC have that can beat him??? Tito..lol...Forrest...he did beat Shogun...but Rampage will not gas and will strike with Forrest and KO him. Machida is a former K-1 fighter so he doesnt count as a UFC original.
The MW division....Silva is champ...dont see a UFC beating him either. Maybe if they bring in Lindland a UFC original then maybe. But Hendo would beat him I am sure....yes a Pride fighter. ;D
I tink that BJ owns his division as long as he stays focused..
I don't know about Rampage knocking out Forrest.. The kid has a chin and I think that he would stand a chance banging it out with Quinton. Either way I think it would be a thrilling fight..
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I tink that BJ owns his division as long as he stays focused..
I don't know about Rampage knocking out Forrest.. The kid has a chin and I think that he would stand a chance banging it out with Quinton. Either way I think it would be a thrilling fight..
Isn't BJ in the same div. as Stevenson? If so, I disagree. I like Joe over BJ. Forrest has a chin, but he got destroyed by Jardine. I would as soon see Jardine get the shot myself.
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I like Anderson Silva. My point was that Dana keeps hyping up these guys who the majority of the fans don't know and they keep losing. Doesn't make sense to keep doing it. Bring em over quiet and let them earn their respect. Dana can not be happy that Shogun couldn't even beat Forrest last night. Long term, who knows who will have the better fighters, but I for one am getting sick of seeing these guys hyped up just to come over and fight like shit.
Actually, he's probably pretty happy. Forrest is more famous around here. Outside of the hardcore fans, no one knows Shogun. So him losing doesn't really mean anything. He was hyped, but it wasn't like when CroCop came over.
He's paying him more, but it's not going to mean much that he lost. Forrest is the TUF fan favorite, so him beating Shogun looks good for the UFC.
Anyways, I suspect Shogun to challenge for the belt next year.
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Its all showbiz Danielson...selling the fight/fighter. ;D
I mean they did fooled the public with some of their own. Andrei and Chuck...they fought some stiffs and were hyped up to be killing machines. We discovered that the Pitbull had a chin of china..and Chuck looks GREAT against grapplers but when is faced with a decent striker he's not so good.
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Actually, he's probably pretty happy. Forrest is more famous around here. Outside of the hardcore fans, no one knows Shogun. So him losing doesn't really mean anything. He was hyped, but it wasn't like when CroCop came over.
Yeah, Dana does like that goofy looking Forrest for some reason. Take away the Jardine fight and he would have had a title shot already.
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Its all showbiz Danielson...selling the fight/fighter. ;D
I mean they did fooled the public with some of their own. Andrei and Chuck...they fought some stiffs and were hyped up to be killing machines. Will discovered that the Pitbull had a chin of china..and Chuck looks GREAT against grapplers but when is faced with a decent striker he's not so good.
Arlovski ruled when the only other competition was Monson and Sylvia. Chuck is an interesting fighter, but it was obvious he was far from complete. You are right though, it's all about the hype.
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I tink that BJ owns his division as long as he stays focused..
I don't know about Rampage knocking out Forrest.. The kid has a chin and I think that he would stand a chance banging it out with Quinton. Either way I think it would be a thrilling fight..
Rampage will KO him I am sure...Forrest IS tough...he will hang in there for awhile until he finally falls.
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There are two champs who rolled over the ufc champs already, Silva and Jackson. I think what some fighters from pride are having a hard time with is competing off drugs. In pride everyone was cranked to the MAX not to mention the huge lines of coke they would do before they fought take that away from a guy who was been doing it for 5 years or more and you got a problem. I have never seen shogun fight like shit, but he couldn't even catch his breath after the first round. In pride the first round is 10 minutes not 5 mins. And he would go crazy throwing everything and never get tired. Take away the drugs and if your not used to it your performance just went down the shitter. Sorry just a fact.
bingo!
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basically the pride fans been bitching for years about how far ahead of the ufc fighters they are, but in reality the gap isnt that big, if there's a gap at all. we see so many example of pride fighters coming to the ufc now and getting their ass handed to them.
we have TUF fighters beating the pride creme de la creme.
shogun fought like a little bitch and got choked out. the pride fanboys are slitting their wrists as we speak. berzerkfury is probably on life support machine.
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PRIDE can Rampage Jackson holds the belt in the UFC's toughest class. ;)
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obviously pride has some good fighters, i dont think anyone ever said otherwise. that doesnt chance the fact that pride fanboys been wrong all along and ufc kicked their ass.
shogun put on an embarrasing performance. crocop, well im not even going to go there... the list gets longer and longer.
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obviously pride has some good fighters, i dont think anyone ever said otherwise. that doesnt chance the fact that pride fanboys been wrong all along and ufc kicked their ass.
shogun put on an embarrasing performance. crocop, well im not even going to go there... the list gets longer and longer.
Ever think it's the steroid testing? In Pride, Shogun could go the first 10 minute round at 150%. And he was gassed after 1 last night. They need to get their bodies adjusted to life without gear, HGH and amphetamines and then we'll see. Regardless, when Big Nog takes the HW belt, that will be 3 Pride fighters holding belts in the UFC. Probably grab another when the lightweights start coming over. ;D
Shogun's young. He'll bounce back. I suspect he'll get a title fight by the end of 08.
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if steroids play such a big part it's even more embarassing, makes you wonder what the ufc fighters could do if they were on roids... if youre correct those steroids would still have benefited the pride fighters in a lot of ways during the years, enabling them to train harder, fight harder, got more endurance, buidling up their bodies, putting on more muscle etc even when clean they still live off some of the good for years to come.
must suck to have worshipped such fighters.
steroids or not, shoguns gameplan sucked and that cant be answered by steroids. his takedowns was sloppy, his punching enchance wasnt much to write home about. his actions from dominant position etc etc
and he went up against TUF boy forrest.. hardly one of the top guys of ufc.
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You're right, if they were allowed to use gear, maybe they wouldn't be losing all their belts to Pride guys crossing over. ;)
What are you going to say when Nog takes the HW belt and 3 of the 5 UFC belts are in Pride fighter hands? And I suspect that will be 4 of 5 eventually.
The UFC fighters are cans. Liddell held the 205 belt for years and what happens now? He's washed up beyond belief. The face and "the baddest man" in the UFC can't even get back in line for a title shot.
Oh, by the way. None of the UFC guys use roids. Nevermind the multiple positive tests every event and the fact that Sherk AND Franca both tested positive during the last title fight. Looks really good for an organization when both fighters fighting for a belt get suspended for a year for illegal substances. ;D
The steroids comment might be wrong now that I think about it. More UFC fighters tested positive in the last event than did Pride fighters at the last Las Vegas event. Going to be a sweet year when all the UFC belts end up in Pride hands!
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You're right, if they were allowed to use gear, maybe they wouldn't be losing all their belts to Pride guys crossing over. ;)
What are you going to say when Nog takes the HW belt and 3 of the 5 UFC belts are in Pride fighter hands? And I suspect that will be 4 of 5 eventually.
The UFC fighters are cans. Liddell held the 205 belt for years and what happens now? He's washed up beyond belief. The face and "the baddest man" in the UFC can't even get back in line for a title shot.
Oh, by the way. None of the UFC guys use roids. Nevermind the multiple positive tests every event and the fact that Sherk AND Franca both tested positive during the last title fight. Looks really good for an organization when both fighters fighting for a belt get suspended for a year for illegal substances. ;D
The steroids comment might be wrong now that I think about it. More UFC fighters tested positive in the last event than did Pride fighters at the last Las Vegas event. Going to be a sweet year when all the UFC belts end up in Pride hands!
I thought we weren't going to make this forum all about Pride vs. UFC? At any rate, this forum is falling to shit. Mods fighting with each other, people threatening to leave. It's a mess.
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the way you talked about pride im surprised a single pride fighter lost a single fight.
thats how superior you made them up to be.
good you got a reality check even though your mind still isnt clear, you resort to excuses any change you get (crocop getting kicked in the groin, steroids, cant remember what excuse you had for gonzaga against couture but im sure you used one etc etc)
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I thought we weren't going to make this forum all about Pride vs. UFC? At any rate, this forum is falling to shit. Mods fighting with each other, people threatening to leave. It's a mess.
Why are you bitching? You're the same guy that infests every thread with pure, unadulterated hate for Pride. Maybe if you stopped blindly hating an organization just because you don't like a fighter, it'll calm down. It was fine until you and Bluto felt the need to start spamming it with all your crap.
the way you talked about pride im surprised a single pride fighter lost a single fight.
thats how superior you made them up to be.
good you got a reality check even though your mind still isnt clear, you resort to excuses any change you get (crocop getting kicked in the groin, steroids, cant remember what excuse you had for gonzaga against couture but im sure you used one etc etc)
I don't know. I remember a couple certain UFC fighters getting wrecked when they went over to Pride for a GP event. ;D
I couldn't even care less about this Pride vs UFC argument. But I'm going to keep bringing it up if you and Danielson feel like infecting every thread with your bullshit about it.
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gee, a thread about pride fighters where i comment on - pride fighters.
thats a rule violation right there! ::)
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gee, a thread about pride fighters where i comment on - pride fighters.
thats a rule violation right there! ::)
Who said anything about this thread? Danielson is the one bitching about while blindly continuing to bash every fighter he doesn't want to blow apparently.
Bluto, how much time did you spend crying to Ron trying to get moderator back? It's pretty clear with your 1-8 record for the weekend and lies of cage fighting for 15 years that you really have no business on this board. ;D
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Why are you bitching? You're the same guy that infests every thread with pure, unadulterated hate for Pride. Maybe if you stopped blindly hating an organization just because you don't like a fighter, it'll calm down. It was fine until you and Bluto felt the need to start spamming it with all your crap.
No, it was a forum where everyone worshipped Pride fighters, now that we are seeing that Pride fighters were over rated, some people are getting pissed.
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Who said anything about this thread? Danielson is the one bitching about while blindly continuing to bash every fighter he doesn't want to blow apparently.
Bluto, how much time did you spend crying to Ron trying to get moderator back? It's pretty clear with your 1-8 record for the weekend and lies of cage fighting for 15 years that you really have no business on this board. ;D
i talked to him the same night it happend and his respons was he would get back on. if you want to discuss it further use the suggestion board, dont come posting about that in every thread on here, it doesnt really do anything for the mma board and i rather not start deleting threads unless i have to
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you guys are funny ;D
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Who said anything about this thread? Danielson is the one bitching about while blindly continuing to bash every fighter he doesn't want to blow apparently.
Bluto, how much time did you spend crying to Ron trying to get moderator back? It's pretty clear with your 1-8 record for the weekend and lies of cage fighting for 15 years that you really have no business on this board. ;D
I didn't bitch about anything. Wtf are you talking about?
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I didn't bitch about anything. Wtf are you talking about?
Looks like you're bitching here. ;)
I thought we weren't going to make this forum all about Pride vs. UFC? At any rate, this forum is falling to shit. Mods fighting with each other, people threatening to leave. It's a mess.
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Looks like you're bitching here. ;)
I am being proactive. This is not an alpha board, but the mods are letting it turn into one.
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I am being proactive. This is not an alpha board, but the mods are letting it turn into one.
Ironic that there wasn't one problem with it until you and Bluto decided to start spamming it. Makes one wonder who the source of the problem is. ;)
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Ironic that there wasn't one problem with it until you and Bluto decided to start spamming it. Makes one wonder who the source of the problem is. ;)
Find one post where I slam another member on the MMA board. Just one. I don't do it. I talk about the fights, I don't give a fuck if people agree with me or not and I can't help it Pride fighters can't fight in the UFC.
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Ironic that there wasn't one problem with it until you and Bluto decided to start spamming it. Makes one wonder who the source of the problem is. ;)
there you go again, bringing me up. any chance you get. how am i spamming the board? by posting the quotes of dana white? by posting the whole ufc files for dl? by posting the result to cage fight 23? by posting the actual fights of cage fight 23? by editing and working with the betting thread?
how would that ever, under any circumstances, be considered spam? how can you possibly be against those kind of threads and posts? the same kind of posts by anyone but me you would never had complained about. which just goes to show youre only here to pick fights, go off-topic and troll the board.
looks like you're heading for a ban and that very quickly.
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Find one post where I slam another member on the MMA board. Just one. I don't do it. I talk about the fights, I don't give a fuck if people agree with me or not and I can't help it Pride fighters can't fight in the UFC.
talking about ufc vs pride is a perfectly good topic IMO.
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Find one post where I slam another member on the MMA board. Just one. I don't do it. I talk about the fights, I don't give a fuck if people agree with me or not and I can't help it Pride fighters can't fight in the UFC.
And I can't help it that Pride fighters already hold 2 of the 5 UFC belts and soon to be 3. I wonder, will you still be complaining when they hold 4 of the 5, and only 4 because they didn't waste their time with the last weight class?
I've never really seen you talk about one fight. Every single posts of yours just talks about how Pride sucks. I don't think you mentioned once that Griffin was in the best shape of his life and had an amazing game plan. But go on, your bitching is pretty funny.
It's cute that you and Bluto are turning this into another Sherdog, though.
The ban thing is cute though. Chute told me to keep doing what I'm doing big guy. He's got no problem with it, and last I checked, he's been moderator longer than 24 hours. Hope this helps. ;)
talking about ufc vs pride is a perfectly good topic IMO.
There is no more Pride. Happy to update you on the happenings of the last 6 months and all.
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talking about ufc vs pride is a perfectly good topic IMO.
I just don't see the point of launching personal attacks while doing so. I honestly don't care that some people like Pride better. It has absolutely zero effect on me. I wonder why people get so upset about it.
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And I can't help it that Pride fighters already hold 2 of the 5 UFC belts and soon to be 3. I wonder, will you still be complaining when they hold 4 of the 5, and only 4 because they didn't waste their time with the last weight class?
I've never really seen you talk about one fight. Every single posts of yours just talks about how Pride sucks. I don't think you mentioned once that Griffin was in the best shape of his life and had an amazing game plan. But go on, your bitching is pretty funny.
It's cute that you and Bluto are turning this into another Sherdog, though.
The ban thing is cute though. Chute told me to keep doing what I'm doing big guy. He's got no problem with it, and last I checked, he's been moderator longer than 24 hours. Hope this helps. ;)
There is no more Pride. Happy to update you on the happenings of the last 6 months and all.
I can't comment on Forrests condition. I haven't seen the fight yet!
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I just don't see the point of launching personal attacks while doing so. I honestly don't care that some people like Pride better. It has absolutely zero effect on me. I wonder why people get so upset about it.
It has nothing to do with UFC or Pride. You and Bluto don't discuss fights. You come in, interrupt the thread with your organization bashing, and never once mention the fight. No talk of technique, no submission attempts, or how he broke guard well. Do something besides bitch about which organization is better and it might fix the problem.
And by the way, I'm not the only one complaining about Bluto's bullshit. There were quite a few.
I can't comment on Forrests condition. I haven't seen the fight yet!
Then what the fuck are you doing on here bashing everything Pride? This is just like Sherdog all over again. Do yourself a favor and try watching something before bashing the shit out of it.
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Then what the fuck are you doing on here bashing everything Pride? This is just like Sherdog all over again. Do yourself a favor and try watching something before bashing the shit out of it.
Most of my threads were about predictions and I didn't bash one single person. I am watching the fights now.
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still entertaining fellas!! thnx!! :D
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Most of my threads were about predictions and I didn't bash one single person. I am watching the fights now.
Well, if you had actually seen the fight you'll see that Shogun fought NOTHING like the Shogun of Pride and that Forrest fought the fight of his life and was in arguably the best shape he's ever been in. Shogun had no problems in Pride going the first 10 minute round, yet he was gassed after one round last night. Ironically, that has nothing to do with Pride but you and your big mouth keep on trying to play it off as it playing a factor.
The most ironic part is that you haven't even watched the fights. Oh brother.
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There you have it fellas... if a ufc fighter lose, well it's because he's a ufc fighter. and if a pride figher lose, well it's just because he's "nothing like his old self in pride..."
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great analysis.
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Well, if you had actually seen the fight you'll see that Shogun fought NOTHING like the Shogun of Pride and that Forrest fought the fight of his life and was in arguably the best shape he's ever been in. Shogun had no problems in Pride going the first 10 minute round, yet he was gassed after one round last night. Ironically, that has nothing to do with Pride but you and your big mouth keep on trying to play it off as it playing a factor.
The most ironic part is that you haven't even watched the fights. Oh brother.
I had plans last night. Couldn't watch it. I am watching the Forrest fight now. Shogun does look like shit. Couture picked Forrest to win, he would kill us in our pick em contest.
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There you have it fellas... if a ufc fighter lose, well it's because he's a ufc fighter. and if a pride figher lose, well it's just because he's "nothing like his old self in pride..."
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great analysis.
How so? If I see a UFC fighter come in out of shape and gassing after one round, I acknowledge it. I don't bash the UFC because he fought poorly for them. I blame the fighter himself for not stepping up to the challenge.
It just amazes me that this board has degenerated into another Sherdog with a week of you getting moderator Bluto.
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Well fellas, there was no drug testing in Japan. That is the problem with the pride fighters and their transition to the UFC. Here in America, the drug testing is enforced.
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Well fellas, there was no drug testing in Japan. That is the problem with the pride fighters and their transition to the UFC. Here in America, the drug testing is enforced.
:o say it ain't so Mark, say it ain't so...........
not supposed to bring up the drug part of their game, that is taboo or something, but I do think it has played a major factor in the difference between some of these guys fights in PRIDE and how they are doing in UFC. ;)
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Well fellas, there was no drug testing in Japan. That is the problem with the pride fighters and their transition to the UFC. Here in America, the drug testing is enforced.
"pride fighters are superior!"
ALL DRUGS!
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It has to be the drugs. I don't know if it's my imagination but cro cop and nakamura looked smaller than they did in pride. Shogun gassed after 4 minutes when he was aggressive nonstop in pride. Regardless the entire mma world has been turned upside down since 2007 began. Seems like all the guys that are supposed to win are losing. That includes both ufc and pride fighters. 2007 is the year of the underdog.
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In the instance of Chute Boxe fighters. A lot of them use stomps religously. Cyborg, Shogun, Ninja and Wandy all used stomps effectively in Pride. They also used the ring ropes effectively. Wandy grabbing the ring ropes to stomp on people's heads is a devatating technique. Then off course you have AC regulation. To think that gear wasn't rampant in DSE run shows is like thinking that karate is the best standup art, just plain silly.
Nog will do quiet well in the UFC, as will Fedor, when he eventually signs. I'd love to see Soko. I hope he does well in Hero's and makes the transition. Dennis Kang is another fighter I'd love to see.
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It has to be the drugs. I don't know if it's my imagination but cro cop and nakamura looked smaller than they did in pride. Shogun gassed after 4 minutes when he was aggressive nonstop in pride. Regardless the entire mma world has been turned upside down since 2007 began. Seems like all the guys that are supposed to win are losing. That includes both ufc and pride fighters. 2007 is the year of the underdog.
Indeed, upsets have come to be something to expect, every other show it seems.
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Nog will do quiet well in the UFC, as will Fedor, when he eventually signs. I'd love to see Soko. I hope he does well in Hero's and makes the transition. Dennis Kang is another fighter I'd love to see.
Dana thinks Fedor will sign in December. Obviously it would be cool to see him fight in the UFC, but other than Randy are there any HW's you think would even give him a good fight? Seems like the UFC is stacked everywhere but at heavy to me.
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Well, it's good to see Rampage being successful in the UFC.
Was a pity the audience booed him in his first fight though.
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Well, it's good to see Rampage being successful in the UFC.
Was a pity the audience booed him in his first fight though.
Those redneck queers boo anything that isn't Chuck Liddell or a fighter that was on the TUF.
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Dana thinks Fedor will sign in December. Obviously it would be cool to see him fight in the UFC, but other than Randy are there any HW's you think would even give him a good fight? Seems like the UFC is stacked everywhere but at heavy to me.
He'll be lucky to get past cans like Sylvia and Buentello...
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after saturday night, seeing fedor slip into mediocrity in the UFC is'nt that much of a stretch....
it's becoming a trend
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after saturday night, seeing fedor slip into mediocrity in the UFC is'nt that much of a stretch....
it's becoming a trend
hahahahahah! The 205 division is a little different than the HW. Outside of Randy and Big Nog, that division is an absolutely sham. I can't think of one person that has more than a puncher's chance of beating him. Nog is the only person I think that legitimately stands a chance of beating him, but that wouldn't be unheard of as they've had two legendary brawls.
Ol' Chucky needs to put down the cane is what his problem is. He's gotten complacent in his old age. I wouldn't even put him near the top 5 right now.
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hahahahahah! The 205 division is a little different than the HW. Outside of Randy and Big Nog, that division is an absolutely sham. I can't think of one person that has more than a puncher's chance of beating him. Nog is the only person I think that legitimately stands a chance of beating him, but that wouldn't be unheard of as they've had two legendary brawls.
Ol' Chucky needs to put down the cane is what his problem is. He's gotten complacent in his old age. I wouldn't even put him near the top 5 right now.
don't get me wrong,I won't bet against fedor against anyone .....
just saying I won't be all that surprised
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don't get me wrong,I won't bet against fedor against anyone .....
just saying I won't be all that surprised
I wouldn't either. That's the greatest thing about MMA though. Upsets happen. It's not boxing where you see the champ matched up against a bunch of clowns for most of his title defenses, with the one big fight thrown in. Every event usually sees one "Can't believe that happened" type of upset. Fujita almost KO'd Fedor, but I just don't see it happening in the UFC. The talent level of the HW division is pathetic.
And while others seem to have problems without taking steroids and fighting in the US, no one really suspects Fedor to be using gear. Not to mention he has NEVER come into a fight out of shape and I suspect the cage would benefit him and his fighting style greatly.
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I wouldn't either. That's the greatest thing about MMA though. Upsets happen. It's not boxing where you see the champ matched up against a bunch of clowns for most of his title defenses,
exactly
the parity in MMA is'nt always due to skill level being the same....it's that fact that ya make ONE mistake and the fight can be over,in boxing you can make alot more mistakes and get away with it during the course of the fight
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exactly
the parity in MMA is'nt always due to skill level being the same....it's that fact that ya make ONE mistake and the fight can be over,in boxing you can make alot more mistakes and get away with it during the course of the fight
Exactly. That's why I argue the UFC vs Pride thing. Shogun had one fight, give the guy a break. He spent his entire career fighting in a roped ring. Let's see how he is after 2 or 3 fights. CroCop is just tired of fighting. He's been talking retirement longer than he's been in the UFC.
I suspect when guys like Arona, Soko, Filho and the other superstars end up here eventually, then it would be more understanding to start the talks.
And apparently Shogun isn't fighting on Wandy's team anymore, which I didn't know, so there's also the possibility that his new coaches just aren't that good.
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I still hav'nt seen griffin/rua
I suck
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I still hav'nt seen griffin/rua
I suck
I'll make it short. Shogun gassed after 1 round when he has no trouble going the opening 10 mins in Pride, did nothing worthwhile and looked like he started training for the fight 2 days ago. Hopefully he doesn't CroCop it and actually puts some effort into showing up for a fight. I'm willing to bet he was cocky like he is and figured Forrest would just roll over and die for him.
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I suspect the cage would benefit him and his fighting style greatly.
see that's where I think fedor might be different and not be at home,fedors game is the take down and working in the gaurd mostly....the cage just offers too many ways around that for whoever he's in there with and randy's about as smart as the come....I think he'll use that whole cage against him