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Title: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 01, 2007, 09:05:54 PM
25 yo, 215lbs..bodyfat = way to high.

Been training for years on and off naturally, I've gotten really out of shape as of late, my stomach is getting out of control... and need some help dieting...
Can anyone give me some good advice for carb timing...I Can eat whenever I want at work, im up at 7am, and train around 5pm.

should i just be taking in 50 carbs for first meal, 50g simple sugars before and afteroworkout totalling 150g a day?

Need some help, thanks in advance guys/girls!   
(Please dont be too harse on my pics, i havent lifted in over a year and im out of shape, just wanna give u guys an idea what i look like for carb intake)


(http://i22.tinypic.com/205e82t.jpg)
(http://i22.tinypic.com/2j4rl7n.jpg)
(http://i23.tinypic.com/2ymepl2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 02, 2007, 01:25:05 AM
do an online search for john berardi and read his stuff, hes one of the most intelligent nutritionist in the world.

But instead of askign online,do yourself a favour and go to the library or bookstore, get some books for yourself and READ!
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: AVBG on October 02, 2007, 02:30:03 AM
do an online search for john berardi and read his stuff, hes one of the most intelligent nutritionist in the world.

But instead of askign online,do yourself a favour and go to the library or bookstore, get some books for yourself and READ!

Good advice flexingtonsteele

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/members/forumdisplay.php?f=17 8)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Honour on October 04, 2007, 02:23:13 AM
Tbh you don't look too bad mate, better than a lot of people I would think. Just takes discipline and consistency to keep the bodyfat low, you should be fine 8)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 05, 2007, 08:04:41 AM
Tbh you don't look too bad mate, better than a lot of people I would think. Just takes discipline and consistency to keep the bodyfat low, you should be fine 8)

Thanks for the compliment, definetaly need to drop the bodyfat, just gotta stick to my diet and cardio... i just want to make sure my carb intake/timing is in control...and im doing things "right"
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Redwine on October 05, 2007, 09:42:31 AM
Tbh you don't look too bad mate, better than a lot of people I would think. Just takes discipline and consistency to keep the bodyfat low, you should be fine 8)
Agreed! you dont look too bad bro.. much better than many idiots here
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 05, 2007, 03:20:41 PM
Agreed! you dont look too bad bro.. much better than many idiots here

I look like Shit in these pics...been away from waits/diet for months..but thanks anyways :)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Redwine on October 05, 2007, 07:53:43 PM
I look like Shit in these pics...been away from waits/diet for months..but thanks anyways :)

thts why i said not bad.. some looks like crap in just a month away frm weights
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: G.R.H. on October 07, 2007, 10:01:04 AM
you're being too hard on yourself big guy! u do not look like shit in those pics! (i've seen worse!) just watch the diet and train and you'll be back on track!
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 07, 2007, 08:45:08 PM
you're being too hard on yourself big guy! u do not look like shit in those pics! (i've seen worse!) just watch the diet and train and you'll be back on track!

Thanks for the motivation. :)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: The True Adonis on October 08, 2007, 07:49:58 AM
Eat 1800 calories a day and you will look great in time.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: G.R.H. on October 08, 2007, 07:58:17 PM
no problem big guy! i need motivation too once in a while!  8)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Eric2 on October 08, 2007, 09:24:57 PM
25 yo, 215lbs..bodyfat = way to high.

Been training for years on and off naturally, I've gotten really out of shape as of late, my stomach is getting out of control... and need some help dieting...
Can anyone give me some good advice for carb timing...I Can eat whenever I want at work, im up at 7am, and train around 5pm.

should i just be taking in 50 carbs for first meal, 50g simple sugars before and afteroworkout totalling 150g a day?

Need some help, thanks in advance guys/girls!   
(Please dont be too harse on my pics, i havent lifted in over a year and im out of shape, just wanna give u guys an idea what i look like for carb intake)


(http://i22.tinypic.com/205e82t.jpg)
(http://i22.tinypic.com/2j4rl7n.jpg)
(http://i23.tinypic.com/2ymepl2.jpg)

 Do not eat anything 3 hours before you go to bed. Walk at least an hour everyday along with your workouts. Take less time between sets on the weights, go lighter if you have to , This will burn the calories fast while keeping the lean muscle mass. Eat up the protein.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 09, 2007, 09:26:47 PM
Eat 1800 calories a day and you will look great in time.

Mind giving me a break down of a diet that would make me "look great"..:)
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 09, 2007, 09:27:58 PM
Do not eat anything 3 hours before you go to bed. Walk at least an hour everyday along with your workouts. Take less time between sets on the weights, go lighter if you have to , This will burn the calories fast while keeping the lean muscle mass. Eat up the protein.

What about if i train around 8pm, and go to bed around 10, should I not have any post workout meals? i was told its okay to have my carbs even then, if its after a workout...
I just want to get ripped, im having a hard time.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2007, 10:56:21 PM
Mind giving me a break down of a diet that would make me "look great"..:)
Eat whatever you like. 
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 10, 2007, 06:24:37 AM
Do not eat anything 3 hours before you go to bed. Walk at least an hour everyday along with your workouts. Take less time between sets on the weights, go lighter if you have to , This will burn the calories fast while keeping the lean muscle mass. Eat up the protein.

Not the best advice unless you want to lose muscle. Don't eat carbs 3 hours before bed but do take in protein. If you don't eat 3 hours before and then get 7-8 hours of sleep yoru body will begin to fast overnight. No simple carbs pre workout, your body already has glycogen stores from your daily intake so your pre will convert to fat quicker. Comlex carbs pre simple carbs post
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Deicide on October 10, 2007, 06:36:01 AM
Get all of your calories (with a deficit of course) in before 18:00...don't eat anything after that...before going to bed, 0mega-3, amino tabs, glutmanine and if you have them BCCAs...
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 10, 2007, 10:07:45 AM
Get all of your calories (with a deficit of course) in before 18:00...don't eat anything after that...before going to bed, 0mega-3, amino tabs, glutmanine and if you have them BCCAs...

That is horrible advice if they guy wants to maintain muscle
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 10, 2007, 02:14:17 PM
Lol...seems like everyone has a different opinion on this site...


Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 10, 2007, 02:14:54 PM
Eat whatever you like. 

LOL? so eat 1800 Calories of big macs a day and i'll look great in time? lol
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: highlander on October 10, 2007, 02:49:16 PM
Why not just train for a month & get back into it. You are worrying bout too much "other" stuff. Sure follow JBs writings - protein + good fat meals pre workout, protein carb meals post etc. After a months training then make some modifications. Theres no "best" diet, its about your progression. As for transfat burgers - good luck to you.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 10, 2007, 02:57:43 PM
Why not just train for a month & get back into it. You are worrying bout too much "other" stuff. Sure follow JBs writings - protein + good fat meals pre workout, protein carb meals post etc. After a months training then make some modifications. Theres no "best" diet, its about your progression. As for transfat burgers - good luck to you.

I wouldn't consider eating hamburgers for a diet, it was in response to his comment, relax...
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: highlander on October 10, 2007, 03:09:12 PM
Its cool, just some ppl believe this 1800 cal burger shite. You may need approx 2500 - 2800 of clean food if training 3 - 4 x week.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 10, 2007, 03:30:31 PM
Its cool, just some ppl believe this 1800 cal burger shite. You may need approx 2500 - 2800 of clean food if training 3 - 4 x week.

ppl actually follow burger diets to get lean?? ur kidding me..
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Eric2 on October 10, 2007, 06:29:00 PM
Not the best advice unless you want to lose muscle. Don't eat carbs 3 hours before bed but do take in protein. If you don't eat 3 hours before and then get 7-8 hours of sleep yoru body will begin to fast overnight. No simple carbs pre workout, your body already has glycogen stores from your daily intake so your pre will convert to fat quicker. Comlex carbs pre simple carbs post

   Most men eat enough protein throughout the day to last overnight. Just how much muscle mass would one lose in their sleep at night? Really, I am being serious. Is it even measurable? I find this information limited. As long as one gets enough nutrition through the day their muscles will be fed.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: Deicide on October 10, 2007, 07:06:25 PM
   Most men eat enough protein throughout the day to last overnight. Just how much muscle mass would one lose in their sleep at night? Really, I am being serious. Is it even measurable? I find this information limited. As long as one gets enough nutrition through the day their muscles will be fed.

Well...I do it this way. I get my 200-225 grams of protein in before 6 as well as my carbs (low) and fats. My last meal always has Casein in it so it circulates for up to 8 hours in the body. True, at the end of the day the deficit is what matters. But I have such a slow metabolism that the nighttime fasting period is essential for me.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: The Onion on October 10, 2007, 11:53:34 PM
should i just be taking in 50 carbs for first meal, 50g simple sugars before and afteroworkout totalling 150g a day?
50g of simple sugars before and after workout sounds like overkill to me - if it`s strength training you do. If it`s strenuous cardiovascular training you do it could be more justified.
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: militarymuscle69 on October 11, 2007, 05:31:34 AM
   Most men eat enough protein throughout the day to last overnight. Just how much muscle mass would one lose in their sleep at night? Really, I am being serious. Is it even measurable? I find this information limited. As long as one gets enough nutrition through the day their muscles will be fed.

I'm not saying eat a full 40-60 grams of protein. I eat 1/2 cup of cottage cheese before bed. 90 cals, 14 grams slow digesting protein to help until that shake first think upon waking
Title: Re: Pics and stats, I need some advice
Post by: JCL on October 11, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
50g of simple sugars before and after workout sounds like overkill to me - if it`s strength training you do. If it`s strenuous cardiovascular training you do it could be more justified.

More strength training at the moment, gonna pick up my cardio more in the am 4-5x a week, to shed this fat...