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Getbig Alternative Boards => Y Board - The Player's Club => Topic started by: Alex23 on December 15, 2007, 09:48:15 AM
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I was watching some canadian report on CBC someone sent me the other day; an old report from 2001 where a muslim "lady" from Toronto was being interviewed regarding how she "felt" about 9/11...Immigrated some 5 years earlier and made a citizen with arms wide open.
CBC reporter: "What was you and your familiy's reaction to the 9/11 events?"
Muslim woman': "Crying."
CBC reporter: "That made you sad?"
Muslim woman': "No cry for joy, for Allah"
CBC reporter: "Why?"
Muslim woman': "They deserved it. Every siangle one of them. They participate to the evil by working and paying tagxes"
CBC reporter: "It's been reported that people of Middle Eastern origin were killed when the WTC collapsed."
Muslim woman': "They deserved it as well in the name of Allah...(weird chants)"...
It goes on and on on how they use tax evasion tactics and send the money back to Syria, how their "son" spends his summer in AlQueda camps and will eventually "enroll" 'full time...
Doesn't this make you ashamed? Does it piss you off as a Canadian citizen who pays your fair share of taxes? :-\
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why do you have to talk about David Paul's sister that way, Alex?
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What can you do, that's a very small, minor percentage of the Muslim population who feels that way.
On the same token, you can find a minor, small percentage of Christians, Americans, and Jews (okay a larger percentage of it's on Getbig) who get joyful at hearing that Iraqi civilians or Palestinians, Afghans, etc. died from US or Israeli attacks.
And now hypothetically if this woman had her civilian husband, father or brother killed in an attack in Palestine with American-provided equipment, she may be so devastated inside that it leads her to insanity in proclaiming joy at hearing that American civilians died in 9/11. Just like the parents of an American soldier who died in Iraq would probably make similar statements at hearing of a bomb that fell on an Iraqi village and killed civilians.
You should watch the movie "Kingdom" if you havent already - it's got a good message at the end.
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why do you have to talk about David Paul's sister that way, Alex?
Hahahah he actually retorted with a mix of liberal misinformation and "what ifs"... Can't believe it.
We harbor them all over North America, with arms wide open... and we're the "bad people" ::)
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Should I be shocked that a muslim is trying to justify killing thousands of innocent Americans? There's a 99.99% chance that the kid or husband that hypothetical Palestinian woman is crying was probably a mujahideen scum.
Hahahah he actually retorted with a mix of liberal misinformation and "what ifs"... Can't believe it.
We harbor them all over North America, with arms wide open... and we're the "bad people" ::)
You got to love them. Like the ones in England. England gives them everything they want, and they say thank you by holding rallies in the streets calling for an Islamic state. Makes me want to puke.
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Should I be shocked that a muslim is trying to justify killing thousands of innocent Americans? There's a 99.99% chance that the kid or husband that hypothetical Palestinian woman is crying was probably a mujahideen scum.
You got to love them. Like the ones in England. England gives them everything they want, and they say thank you by holding rallies in the streets calling for an Islamic state. Makes me want to puke.
You mean "Rallies" like these BF? >:(
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You mean "Rallies" like these BF? >:(
Yes, exactly like that. That woman needs to be punched in the face with a .45 round. What a piece of shit.
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Makes me want to puke.
If you're going to puke..............do it on the x board.
Why would "big" ::) bobsoncock, defend such actions? That's the problem...it should be legal to whip these bastards in public. >:(
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If you're going to puke..............do it on the x board.
Why would "big" ::) bobsoncock, defend such actions? That's the problem...it should be legal to whip these bastards in public. >:(
I love the irony of those fags wearing masks like they're ashamed of it. Look at all the apes gawking.
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I love the irony of those fags wearing masks like they're ashamed of it. Look at all the apes gawking.
Why do they wear a mask for?
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Because they are cowards. ::)
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Because they are cowards. ::)
Are you being sarcastic?
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Are you being sarcastic?
No, he's being a "Jedi" ::)
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Because they are cowards. ::)
Hey fuckface, what's up. Smuggled any "sausage" in your poop chute lately?
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Berzerkfury has the same attitude as the woman in the interview Alex. While that woman has that attitude towards Americans, BF has it towards Muslims. Therefore, they have the same level of intelligence and morality.
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Berzerkfury has the same attitude as the woman in the interview Alex. While that woman has that attitude towards Americans, BF has it towards Muslims. Therefore, they have the same level of intelligence and morality.
Most people didn't know or care that afghanistan even existed before 911.
A lot of people hate America for lots of reasons but it's kind of ok because we hate a lot of people for a lots of reasons.
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Berzerkfury has the same attitude as the woman in the interview Alex. While that woman has that attitude towards Americans, BF has it towards Muslims. Therefore, they have the same level of intelligence and morality.
Nah, it's not the same. I'd have the same attitudes towards Americans if they felt like running around and blowing up innocent children and others. Thing is, they don't. You mcrack me up. Your opinion of this situation is exactly the reason islam needs to be wiped off the map. You may not be an insurgent, but you're obviously supportive of what they're doing because, as you put it, "The Americans are the exact the same way." ::)
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Nah, it's not the same. I'd have the same attitudes towards Americans if they felt like running around and blowing up innocent children and others. Thing is, they don't. You mcrack me up. Your opinion of this situation is exactly the reason islam needs to be wiped off the map. You may not be an insurgent, but you're obviously supportive of what they're doing because, as you put it, "The Americans are the exact the same way." ::)
Are you even vaguely familiar with America's civil rights history?
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LOL!!!
Of course 911 was an act of evil. I'm just pointing out the obvious, we don't come to the table with clean hands.
It would be like the Germans complaining about inhumane treatment of prisoners. :)
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Absolutely classic!! ;D ;D ;D LMAO
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Nah, it's not the same. I'd have the same attitudes towards Americans if they felt like running around and blowing up innocent children and others. Thing is, they don't.
The thing is, they do! The US army claims that they need to get rid of insurgents and on even weak evidence of hte existence of a few insurgents in an area they will bomb the shit out of it, even though they know that tens of civilians, children and women are in the area that will die as well. After searching through the rubble they often find that no insurgents were killed. You really are clueless aren't you? Let me guess, everything that comes on CNN is true right? ::) Unbiased, non-Muslim groups like Amnesty International, International Red Cross, etc. have slammed the US on their indiscriminate disregard for civilian life in the countries it wages war on.
You mcrack me up. Your opinion of this situation is exactly the reason islam needs to be wiped off the map. You may not be an insurgent, but you're obviously supportive of what they're doing because, as you put it, "The Americans are the exact the same way." ::)
Where did I say I was supportive of insurgents? I actually said in the first message on this thread that I was not by labelling the woman's comments as being insane. What I did say is that her attitude is no different than yours as well as several other getbiggers. Pot. Kettle. Black.
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The thing is, they do! The US army claims that they need to get rid of insurgents and on even weak evidence of hte existence of a few insurgents in an area they will bomb the shit out of it, even though they know that tens of civilians, children and women are in the area that will die as well. After searching through the rubble they often find that no insurgents were killed. You really are clueless aren't you? Let me guess, everything that comes on CNN is true right? ::) Unbiased, non-Muslim groups like Amnesty International, International Red Cross, etc. have slammed the US on their indiscriminate disregard for civilian life in the countries it wages war on.
Where did I say I was supportive of insurgents? I actually said in the first message on this thread that I was not by labelling the woman's comments as being insane. What I did say is that her attitude is no different than yours as well as several other getbiggers. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Typical CBC liberal brainwash.
My best source of info: my 3 buddies who came back from the sand box and my brother who's in Afganistan.
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Typical CBC liberal brainwash.
My best source of info: my 3 buddies who came back from the sand box and my brother who's in Afganistan.
So you're saying the US army does has never indiscriminately killed civialians? It's all a big conspiracy just because four people you know suggest it is? Even the CNN news stories about US marines were going form house to house in Iraq killing everyone after one of their comrades died in a road-side bomb was made up? ::)
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Look at this co.cksucker justifying the killing of thousands of innocent civilians. Let me guess, you send 15% of your weekly paycheck to nice oversea "charity" linked to Hamas or some other scumbag terrorist org too? Disgusting.
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Look at this co.cksucker justifying the killing of thousands of innocent civilians. Let me guess, you send 15% of your weekly paycheck to nice oversea "charity" linked to Hamas or some other scumbag terrorist org too? Disgusting.
Look at this co.cksucker justifying the killing of millons of innocent civilians in Iraq. Let me guess, you send 15% of your weekly paycheck to George Bush or some other scumbag terrorist org too? Digusting.
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So you're saying the US army does has never indiscriminately killed civialians? It's all a big conspiracy just because four people you know suggest it is? Even the CNN news stories about US marines were going form house to house in Iraq killing everyone after one of their comrades died in a road-side bomb was made up? ::)
why don't you go and live there you muslim cu nt
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why don't you go and live there you muslim cu nt
I don't live in America. I live in Canada. I can actually proudly show my passport outside of North America and be liked by people ;D
And besides, even if I did live in America, I would be entitled to my opinion and would hold the same opinion as I do. Are you suggesting that anyone who does not agree with their government's policies should pack up and leave? So anyone who did not vote for Bush should pack up and leave once Bush got elected?
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I don't live in America. I live in Canada. I can actually proudly show my passport outside of North America and be liked by people ;D
And besides, even if I did live in America, I would be entitled to my opinion and would hold the same opinion as I do. Are you suggesting that anyone who does not agree with their government's policies should pack up and leave? So anyone who did not vote for Bush should pack up and leave once Bush got elected?
i am suggesting
that if you don't like it you should fu ck off back to some third world shit hole
where you wouldn't be allowed the freedom to express your views due to the intolerance and extremism practiced
by your fellow towel heads
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Look at this co.cksucker justifying the killing of millons of innocent civilians in Iraq. Let me guess, you send 15% of your weekly paycheck to George Bush or some other scumbag terrorist org too? Digusting.
That's funny. The majority of people killing the "millions" of innocent civilians in Iraq are you scumbag countrymen and foreigners from Saudi Arabia and the surrounding countries.
Do you think it's justified to cut a fellow muslim's head off for wearing pleated pants because they're too "western"? Or maybe blowing up a bunch of children at a market? Or taking a 5 year old kid, dousing him in gasoline, and lighting him on fire?
Enlighten me, terrorist sympathizer.
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That's funny. The majority of people killing the "millions" of innocent civilians in Iraq are you scumbag countrymen and foreigners from Saudi Arabia and the surrounding countries.
Do you think it's justified to cut a fellow muslim's head off for wearing pleated pants because they're too "western"? Or maybe blowing up a bunch of children at a market? Or taking a 5 year old kid, dousing him in gasoline, and lighting him on fire?
Enlighten me, terrorist sympathizer.
You think that anyone who points out the similarities between US foreign policy and the actions of Muslim terrorists is automatically a "terrorist sympathizer." If so, then a large chunk of the American population, including white non-Muslims, would be "terroist sympathizers." You lack the ability and intellect to debate with me, which is apparent in you having to put words in my mouth and not actually addressing the points I'm making.
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Did the Enola Gay only hit military targets?
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Hey "bobs", post that pic again of that skanky shemale looking kvnt you call a "girlfriend", I need a good laugh this afternoon.
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i am suggesting
that if you don't like it you should fu ck off back to some third world shit hole
where you wouldn't be allowed the freedom to express your views due to the intolerance and extremism practiced
by your fellow towel heads
So if you don't like US foreign policy and are living in Canada that means you should move to a third world country? ::) Yup, that makes sense. It baffles me how stupid some people are.
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Hey "bobs", post that pic again of that skanky shemale looking kvnt you call a "girlfriend", I need a good laugh this afternoon.
I'm actually the one laughing that you backed down from my challenge to show your girl's pic and let us put them both on hotornot.com to see who is considered more attractive. Until you can man up to that challenge your baseless getbig quotes do not harm me in the least! Part of the reason you backed down is probably because your "girl" is really your right hand lol
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I'm actually the one laughing that you backed down from my challenge to show your girl's pic and let us put them both on hotornot.com to see who is considered more attractive. Until you can man up to that challenge your baseless getbig quotes do not harm me in the least! Part of the reason you backed down is probably because your "girl" is really your right hand lol
Post "her" pic, come on, I need a good laugh.
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You think that anyone who points out the similarities between US foreign policy and the actions of Muslim terrorists is automatically a "terrorist sympathizer." If so, then a large chunk of the American population, including white non-Muslims, would be "terroist sympathizers." You lack the ability and intellect to debate with me, which is apparent in you having to put words in my mouth and not actually addressing the points I'm making.
I don't see the US military lighting 5 year old kids on fire. Justifying terrorism. Priceless. ;)
DrKaje, you continue to convince me that you're a muslim. What is your obsession with sticking your bullshit from 60+ years ago into thread involving muslims? Talk about the present for once.
I could go 500 years and talk about when the muslims were killing millions of innocents for not being muslims. What's your point?
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So if you don't like US foreign policy and are living in Canada that means you should move to a third world country? ::) Yup, that makes sense. It baffles me how stupid some people are.
no i am not you camel humping homo
muslims move to countries where there are civil liberties and freedom of expression
and then start complaining about them and their foreign policies
no one is forcing you to live in the civilized world
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geezus am I glad I'm steering clear of this thread.
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no i am not you camel humping homo
muslims move to countries where there are civil liberties and freedom of expression
and then start complaining about them and their foreign policies
no one is forcing you to live in the civilized world
Great post. Should round up these douche bags that have a problem with the freedoms granted them by our government and ship them back to their home countries so they can get their heads chopped off by their fellow "countrymen who are suffering".
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I don't see the US military lighting 5 year old kids on fire. Justifying terrorism. Priceless. ;)
Do you want to post pics of children who were burned to death by US military aggression? Or children who were killed in cold blood by US marines who went on a rampage in Iraq?
It seems that one of the Y-Board's rules is whenever you can't actually debate with someone who sees flaws in US foreign policy to label them as justifying terrorism lol. You can say that I'm "justifying terroris" all you want, doesn't make it true.
I could go 500 years and talk about when the muslims were killing millions of innocents for not being muslims. What's your point?
And I could go back to the time of the Crusades where Christians were killing innocents for not being Christians, or even a few decades back to Hitler's time. What's your point?
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Do you want to post pics of children who were burned to death by US military aggression? Or children who were killed in cold blood by US marines who went on a rampage in Iraq?
It seems that one of the Y-Board's rules is whenever you can't actually debate with someone who sees flaws in US foreign policy to label them as justifying terrorism lol. You can say that I'm "justifying terroris" all you want, doesn't make it true.
You keep implying that US military has killed most of hte people in Iraq. I hate to break it to you bright spot. Your fellow "brothers" are the ones blowing up market places, churches, restaurants and everything else under the Sun. The US tries to avoid killing civilians. Muslims have made a hobby out of it. Hamas constantly targets Israeli civilians for rocket attacks. You don't see Israel randomly targeting civilians.
You sitting there trying to justify it when you're too thick headed to even admit that the majority of the people doing the killing are muslim. ;)
Typical Muslim denial tactics. Love it!
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no i am not you camel humping homo
muslims move to countries where there are civil liberties and freedom of expression
and then start complaining about them and their foreign policies
no one is forcing you to live in the civilized world
For starters my country benefits from me living here, as I contribute to the economy and pay taxes (I pay more in taxes than many Muslim-haters earn in a year, lol, but that's another story). It's in my civilized country's best interests for me to stay. If that was not the case, my ancestors would not have been allowed to immigrate, nor would my family be allowed to sponsor other family members to immigrate here.
As a Canadian citizen I'm allowed to criticize Canada's foreing policy just as any other Canadian, non-muslim or muslim, is allowed to do. And I have even more of a right to criticize US foreign policy because I dont even live there.
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Answer this question dickhead. Do Americans chop off their cousin's heads IN FRONT OF their four and five year old children for wearing pleated pants because they think they're too "Western"?
It's a pretty simple question.
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You keep implying that US military has killed most of hte people in Iraq. I hate to break it to you bright spot. Your fellow "brothers" are the ones blowing up market places, churches, restaurants and everything else under the Sun. The US tries to avoid killing civilians. Muslims have made a hobby out of it. Hamas constantly targets Israeli civilians for rocket attacks. You don't see Israel randomly targeting civilians.
You sitting there trying to justify it when you're too thick headed to even admit that the majority of the people doing the killing are muslim. ;)
Typical Muslim denial tactics. Love it!
In the last few years, most violent deaths caused in Iraq were by other "Muslims." I never denied that. However, even more civilian deaths in Iraq (well over 1 million) were caused by US foreign policy in the decade after the first gulf-war from sanctions against Iraq which led to Iraq's civilians not having access to even basic medicines.
As for me "justifying terrorism," all I'm saying is that certain US military tactics are no different than those of Muslim terrorists. Only a CNN-brainwashed idiot would believe otherwise. Let me guess, you also think Denis Halliday is a terrorist sympathizer who should live in a third world country? ::)
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Answer this question dickhead. Do Americans chop off their cousin's heads IN FRONT OF their four and five year old children for wearing pleated pants because they think they're too "Western"?
It's a pretty simple question.
Not that specific example, no. But Americans did go on a rampage from house to house in in Iraqi village spraying everyone inside, including elderly, women and children who were trying to hide within their own homes. What's the difference?
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Not that specific example, no. But Americans did go on a rampage from house to house in in Iraqi village spraying everyone inside, including elderly, women and children who were trying to hide within their own homes. What's the difference?
A suicide bomber detonated himself in the middle of a group of children who were trying to get candy that the US soldiers were handing out. No problem whatsoever killing almost 20 children all because they wanted one white guy dead.
Prove that the US did what you're saying. There isn't one hard piece of evidence of what you're claiming. Typical muslim propaganda. "I heard they did this but I have no proof but it has to be true because Americans are evil. Nevermind that foreigners from Saudi Arabia continue to blow up hundreds of us while we're shopping for groceries." ::)
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A suicide bomber detonated himself in the middle of a group of children who were trying to get candy that the US soldiers were handing out. No problem whatsoever killing almost 20 children all because they wanted one white guy dead.
Prove that the US did what you're saying. There isn't one hard piece of evidence of what you're claiming. Typical muslim propaganda. "I heard they did this but I have no proof but it has to be true because Americans are evil. Nevermind that foreigners from Saudi Arabia continue to blow up hundreds of us while we're shopping for groceries." ::)
So the point still remains that both "Muslim" extremists and US soldiers both commit atrocities. Exactly what I was saying earlier. The only difference between me and you is that I'm smart enough to see that, whereas you think it's all one-sided. Typical uneducated white trash hillbilly redneck brainwashed American MELTDOWN.
And yes there is tons of evidence of what I cited as well as other stories. You haven't presented any evidence either. If you really want us to both spend time googling for websites that cite these stories then go ahead, I'll follow you once you start.
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A suicide bomber detonated himself in the middle of a group of children who were trying to get candy that the US soldiers were handing out. No problem whatsoever killing almost 20 children all because they wanted one white guy dead.
Prove that the US did what you're saying. There isn't one hard piece of evidence of what you're claiming. Typical muslim propaganda. "I heard they did this but I have no proof but it has to be true because Americans are evil. Nevermind that foreigners from Saudi Arabia continue to blow up hundreds of us while we're shopping for groceries." ::)
Booom. No punt intended.
bigbobs, you use the argument "not to generalize", are u implying that my buddies + brothers are lying?
Btw, my brother re-attached a kid's arms last month in a rusty room with poor lightning. Would u like more details on how it got "detached" in the first place?
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Booom. No punt intended.
bigbobs, you use the argument "not to generalize", are u implying that my buddies + brothers are lying?
Btw, my brother re-attached a kid's arms last month in a rusty room with poor lightning. Would u like more details on how it got "detached" in the first place?
If your buddies + brother deny that US military tactics have low value for civilian life in Afghanistan and Iraq then they are not seeing beyond their own actions. In other words, I'm not accusing them specifically of "lying," but just knowing what is going on beyond their unit or beyond what they see.
Good for your brother on re-attaching the Muslim kid's arms. Likewise, my brother who is a medical doctor, and a Muslim, has saved many lives of Christian or white people in Canada.
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Fuck BF is killing this shit stick.
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Fuck BF is killing this shit stick.
Typical uneducated reply. Yup, the person who is not able to actually debate with my points and instead repeats the same crap in each post is "killing" me lol ::)
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I was watching some canadian report on CBC someone sent me the other day; an old report from 2001 where a muslim "lady" from Toronto was being interviewed regarding how she "felt" about 9/11...Immigrated some 5 years earlier and made a citizen with arms wide open.
CBC reporter: "What was you and your familiy's reaction to the 9/11 events?"
Muslim woman': "Crying."
CBC reporter: "That made you sad?"
Muslim woman': "No cry for joy, for Allah"
CBC reporter: "Why?"
Muslim woman': "They deserved it. Every siangle one of them. They participate to the evil by working and paying tagxes"
CBC reporter: "It's been reported that people of Middle Eastern origin were killed when the WTC collapsed."
Muslim woman': "They deserved it as well in the name of Allah...(weird chants)"...
It goes on and on on how they use tax evasion tactics and send the money back to Syria, how their "son" spends his summer in AlQueda camps and will eventually "enroll" 'full time...
Doesn't this make you ashamed? Does it piss you off as a Canadian citizen who pays your fair share of taxes? :-\
Hahahah what a slut. But alex are you really that naive to think that the us government and the bankers dont enjoy this? Its right how they want it. The US bankers are always trying new methods to provoke a war to fatten their pockets. Bush is just a wheel of the car, he does his job for the Rockerfeller's. Like, lets piss off some muslims, lets create some Bin Ladin Fella hiding in a cage, so we can create a never ending war on terrorists. Excellent strategy for the freemasons and you re eating it like a cheesecake.
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Ofcourse the majority of muslims are barbarians. But you americans have no room to talk. Just look at the casualties, you bomb a whole muslim country killing 100 000 of little kids. You just do it smarter, propaganda at its finest. '' a american soldier occupying a strange country while giving candy to the kids'' The week before thousands of kids get to the hospital because of US bombing, the next day you re giving kids candy, so the newspapers have something to talk about. You can feed this propaganda to your own dumb americans, not to someone of bigbobs intelect.
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"big"bobosonblackmanballs.... ...you are assuming, like the rest of the muslims, that US soldiers are commiting these crimes, do you have proof that these things are happening without provocation?
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"big"bobosonblackmanballs.... ...you are assuming, like the rest of the muslims, that US soldiers are commiting these crimes, do you have proof that these things are happening without provocation?
The fact that you are brainwashed and clueless should not result in me having to spend/waste time looking up articles and facts and posting them here. I'll give you a hint to get you started though, search in google something like "US Marines Haditha Massacre." That's for starters. Let me know if you want more.
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Google this.
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Google this.
You asked me for proof that US soldiers are committing war crimes without provocation and I replied with a phrase to google, and your response is "google this" with nothing after it? Why even reply if you dont have anything intelligent to say? ::)
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BRAMPTON, Ontario (AP) -- Aqsa Parvez would leave home each morning wearing track pants and a Muslim head scarf. Once the 16-year-old got to school, she would remove the scarf and change into close-fitting jeans.
But, her friends said, her parents got wind of what she was doing. Parvez soon began showing up at school with bruises on her arms.
It was a struggle that may have led to Parvez' death this week at the hands of her father, who was denied bail Wednesday after being charged with strangling her.
The killing has ignited a debate in Canada about the conflict between first- and second-generation immigrants who struggle to maintain traditional Muslim values and their children's desire to fit into Western culture. Canada has about 750,000 Muslims.
Parvez, whose family is of Pakistani origin, was rushed to the hospital in critical condition Monday after her father made an emergency call in which he claimed to have killed her, police said. She later died. Video Watch as her friends describe her »
Police spokesman Wayne Patterson said authorities were working to determine the motive and refused to confirm it was over the hijab, the traditional Muslim head scarf. A lawyer for the father said there was "more to the story than just cultural issues."
But friends said Parvez was planning to leave home in Mississauga, Ontario, because of tensions with her family over her decision to stop wearing her head scarf at high school. They said she often had bruises and that she predicted days before her death that her father would "kill her."
"Her dad would want her to be about Muslim this, Muslim that, but she was more about living her life to the fullest. She just wanted to show her parents that you could be religious, but also be who you wanted to be," said Alex Prasad, a friend and fellow student at Parvez's suburban Toronto school, Applewood Heights Secondary.
According to her friends, Parvez wore the hijab when she started school at Applewood Heights last year. But after getting teased about the head scarf, she stopped wearing it a few months ago.
"Her parents would follow her to school or her sisters would and then go home and tell her parents what she was wearing," said Joel Brown, 17. "They'd come to the back doors, just to spy up on her. Aqsa was always afraid of them, especially her brother who she'd sometimes see walking towards her, and she'd have to scramble to put her hijab back on."
Brown said he was getting worried because Parvez would show up at school with bruises on her arms, possible signs of abuse at home that other friends had noticed as well.
The tension with her family had become too much for Parvez, who left home on several occasions. In the days before her death, she had been staying with a friend, Krista Garbutt. She was returning home last weekend to collect some belongings to move out for good, said Brown.
Brown said Parvez told him she was afraid of going home Friday because her father would "kill her." He said he thought she was speaking figuratively.
"She was scared," Brown said. "But students often talk like that so I thought I'd see her the next day. I didn't expect her never to return to school."
An autopsy revealed that the cause of death was "neck compression," or strangulation, police said Wednesday.
Muhammed Parvez, a frail 57-year-old cab driver, appeared unemotional during his brief appearance at a Brampton court. He was ordered not to communicate with his son Waqas, 26, who was charged with obstructing police in connection with the girl's death.
A publication ban was imposed on the court proceedings.
But outside the courtroom, the father's other son, Sean Muhammed Parvez, told reporters he was not sure what exactly led to his sister's death.
"We don't know so far. We are upset," he said, adding that his mother was "sick" because of what happened.
Muhammed Parvez's lawyer, Joseph Ciraco, said the family is distraught.
"It's clearly a tragedy," he said. "You've got a sister that's gone and a father and brother in jail."
"We've heard what's being said in the newspapers and her friends about the cultural problems at home. From my brief discussions with the family, there's more to this story than just the cultural issues, which could play a part," Ciraco said.
Selma Djukic, a spokeswoman for the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations, called it a case of domestic abuse.
"This is a tragedy. This another woman that has succumbed to domestic violence and we need to look at what kind of services are available to families who are immigrants and who are trying to make it in the Canadian framework," Djukic said.
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Shahina Siddiqui, president of the Islamic Social Services Association, also called it a domestic violence issue.
"To say it was about her not wearing the hijab, I think that's an oversimplification. All we've heard is from her peers saying that," Siddiqui said. "Many of us who have teenagers or had teenagers know this is a very difficult time. Their hormones and emotions are raging and they are trying to assert their independence."
Great religion!!!!!! Let me guess. This girl deserved it? ::)
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Great religion!!!!!! Let me guess. This girl deserved it? ::)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/26/AR2006052602069.html
Great religion!!!!!! Let me guess. The civilians deserved it? ::)
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- In the deadliest single insurgent attack of the Iraq war, a suicide car bombing killed 125 people Monday in Hilla where police recruits were waiting to get physicals, Iraqi government and health officials said.
The attack wounded more than 150 others when the car bomb detonated outside a government office, the officials said.
"We've called on people to donate blood and have opened a center for that," Dr. Mahmoud Abdul Ridah, a local health official, told Reuters. "We've called on doctors from Karbala, Diwaniyah and Najaf to come and help and they have started to arrive."
Hilla is about 60 miles (100 kilometers) south of Baghdad. The government office is near a busy market, and police were unsure how many recruits were among the casualties.
Reuters video showed a pile of bloody bodies outside the building. What were once market stalls had been transformed into smoky wreckage and people helped to load mangled corpses on to wooden carts that were usually used to move fruit and vegetables.
Other bodies seen in the video were piled into the back of pickup trucks.
"We finished now transporting the bodies from the site," Ridah told Reuters.
A second car bomb exploded Monday about 15 miles to the north of Hilla in Musayyib, Iraq's Interior Ministry said. The ministry said it had reports of people wounded in the attack, but no other details.
Police recruits and Iraqi security forces are frequently targeted by insurgents. A similar suicide attack on September 4, 2004, killed 47 recruits.
Before Monday, the deadliest single attacks killed at least 84 people August 29, 2003, at the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf, and at least 85 people March 2, 2004, in Karbala.
Violence in Mosul
Clashes between Iraqi commandoes and insurgent gunmen left four civilians dead and two others wounded Monday in Mosul, according to hospital official Dr. Baha' al-Din al-Bakri.
In another incident in the city, suspected insurgents blew themselves up after Kurdish forces and Iraqi police chased down their car and surrounded it Monday morning, according to Hareem Kamal Agha, deputy chairman of the Mosul branch of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.
The forces shot at a second car involved in the chase, setting it afire, he said. No further information was available.
On Sunday, eight people were killed in a bomb attack on a municipal building near Mosul, multinational forces officials said. The attack by suspected insurgents, happened in Hamam al-Alil, a town about 20 kilometers (12 miles) southeast of Mosul. The building housed different government departments.
Seriously, just shut the fuck up. The people of your own, co.cksucking religion have no problem killing 100x the civilians we do. You're just another carpet kisser that wants to stick it to the white man because we're better than you.
Funny, this was in 2005. Just a drop in the bucket to the numbers since then. The one from earlier this year that killed 185 people shopping at a market was pretty enlightening. And the one with 150+ earlier this summer. Give it a rest.
Or maybe the AQI guys that cut a fellow muslim's face off with piano wire to prove a point?
Disgusting.
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Let me clear this up..........*ahem*....fuck Iraq and it's civilians. They have what we want, we're going to take it. Tough shit.
If you want to read some stories "big"bobsonmuslimpenis go to the political board and read some of 240"s older posts on this subject, once he realized the situation with the future.
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http://www.amnesty.org/en/alfresco_asset/baf312db-a549-11dc-a92d-271514ed133d/mde140622003en.html
BF I have no shortage of articles, do you really want to keep going back and fourth? Any sane person can conclude that both Muslim extremists and US military are guilty of atrocities. Even Squadfather commented on the G&O board the irony of US referring to attacks against them as "terrorism" but excluding their actions in Iraq as terrorism. BTW props to you for that post SF - it's good to know that at least some people on the Y board are impartial and not unintelligent and brainwashed.
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Let me clear this up..........*ahem*....fuck Iraq and it's civilians. They have what we want, we're going to take it. Tough shit.
And it's Americans like you that breed extremists that want to kill American civilians. If you really think you're that tough why don't you go and fight yourself, rather than sitting behind a computer and making hateful remarks which results in extremists killing other citizens of your country.
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And it's Americans like you that breed extremists that want to kill American civilians. If you really think you're that tough why don't you go and fight yourself, rather than sitting behind a computer and making hateful remarks which results in extremists killing other citizens of your country.
Where did I say I was tough? You should learn some reading comprehension, "big"bobsonanymanspenisthatwi llfit, what I said is true and I agree with securing the future of America, even at the cost of civilian lives in Iraq.
Cry me a river, "big"bobsondildos :'(
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http://www.amnesty.org/en/alfresco_asset/baf312db-a549-11dc-a92d-271514ed133d/mde140622003en.html
BF I have no shortage of articles, do you really want to keep going back and fourth? Any sane person can conclude that both Muslim extremists and US military are guilty of atrocities. Even Squadfather commented on the G&O board the irony of US referring to attacks against them as "terrorism" but excluding their actions in Iraq as terrorism. BTW props to you for that post SF - it's good to know that at least some people on the Y board are impartial and not unintelligent and brainwashed.
You're really thick headed. You're not "going back and forth". I post an article of a 16 year old muslim girl who was strangled by her OWN father for not wearing a head scarf and you link me the ONE "massacre" of the entire Iraq war. Then you completely avoid the fact that in one single bombing, the people of your own religion have killed 8x the number of people who died. Nevermind the fact that 75% of the suicide bombers in Iraq are FOREIGNERS. It's ok because they're muslim.
Give it a rest.
You still haven't answered my question. Did that 16 year old girl deserve to be strangled to death by her father because she's allowed to wear what she wants in Canada, despite what he thinks? Answer it. Don't link me more shit from Iraq.
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Where did I say I was tough? You should learn some reading comprehension, "big"bobsonanymanspenisthatwi llfit, what I said is true and I agree with securing the future of America, even at the cost of civilian lives in Iraq.
Cry me a river, "big"bobsondildos :'(
Correction - you agree with America securing it's interests at the cost of civilian lives in Iraq and the lives of US marines and even US civilians in the aftermath which results from angering more Muslim extremists. As long as you're safe and behind your computer it's okay - who cares if others (including Americans) die. ::) What do you seriously think the morale is of the US marines in Iraq? Do you think they really want to be there?
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You still haven't answered my question. Did that 16 year old girl deserve to be strangled to death by her father because she's allowed to wear what she wants in Canada, despite what he thinks? Answer it. Don't link me more shit from Iraq.
Of course it's not justified. What kind of a stupid question is that? Do you think the massacre in Haditha was justified?
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Correction - you agree with America securing it's interests at the cost of civilian lives in Iraq and the lives of US marines and even US civilians in the aftermath which results from angering more Muslim extremists. As long as you're safe and behind your computer it's okay - who cares if others (including Americans) die. ::) What do you seriously think the morale is of the US marines in Iraq? Do you think they really want to be there?
Seriously, what the fuck do you know? You're a Canadian that gets all his "info." on the US from internet news. I for one have a friend that dropped out of college to go fight over there. And he says it was the best decision of his life. Stop talking like you know what's going on.
Of course it's not justified. What kind of a stupid question is that? Do you think the massacre in Haditha was justified?
Enlighten me. How do you feel about fellow Muslims from Saudi Arabia blowing up Iraqis, cutting their heads off, lighting children on fire, torturing hundreds of civilians, daylight executions. They're not from Iraq either, and what they're doing is 10x worse than one Haditha massacre. But you completely avoid that point. You're a fucking fag.got.
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And BF, since you're hung up over the # of deaths of civilians included in the few links we posted, how about you address the Iraqi sanctions which resulted in the deaths of over 1 million Iraqi civilians: http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/Iraq/Sanctions.asp
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And BF, since you're hung up over the # of deaths of civilians included in the few links we posted, how about you address the Iraqi sanctions which resulted in the deaths of over 1 million Iraqi civilians: http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/Iraq/Sanctions.asp
How about you address the fact that 95% of the Civilians casulaties in Iraq are caused by Muslims? Are you that fucking stupid?
I've honestly had just about enough of arguing with you. You're a prime example of scumbag Muslim propaganda. You refuse to accept the fact that the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are killed by Muslims from other countries trying to express their own fucked up views and instead focus on the fuckups of 5 soldiers out of 500,000.
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Enlighten me. How do you feel about fellow Muslims from Saudi Arabia blowing up Iraqis, cutting their heads off, lighting children on fire, torturing hundreds of civilians, daylight executions. They're not from Iraq either, and what they're doing is 10x worse than one Haditha massacre. But you completely avoid that point. You're a fucking fag.got.
Not sure how to get it through your thick skull - have posted more than enough on this thread to explain my view, which AGAIN, is that both US soldiers and Muslim extremists commit crimes. When I call something a crime it means I don't think it's justified. I feel like I'm explaining this to a 6 year old kid lol.
The haditha massacre is one incident of many. I posted another incident above which involves the deaths of over 1 million Iraqi civilians due to US sanctions. That death count is exponentially greater than the crimes you cited.
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How about we address, I don't give a fuck. Really, there is no draft in the US, those men signed up knowing they could be called to war at any moment, they are doing their jobs. If they get out of line, who can blame them, everyday some dunecoon is trying to kill them, blow them up, kidnap them and cut off thier head....etc. So they whack some innocents.....whoopdeedo o. ::)
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Not sure how to get it through your thick skull - have posted more than enough on this thread to explain my view, which AGAIN, is that both US soldiers and Muslim extremists commit crimes. When I call something a crime it means I don't think it's justified. I feel like I'm explaining this to a 6 year old kid lol.
The haditha massacre is one incident of many. I posted another incident above which involves the deaths of over 1 million Iraqi civilians due to US sanctions. That death count is exponentially greater than the crimes you cited.
Are you fucking retarded? Where did you get that number from? Estimates put the number of deaths at 600,000. Are you saying that every single civilian death in Iraq is a result of American sanctions? Funny, I thought it was due to other Iraqis and foreigners blowing them up and chopping their heads off. To think, we've been forcing those muslims to kill other innocent muslims for being shia or sunni!!!!!! Silly me!!!!! ::)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/at-least-600000-civilians-killed-in-iraq-study-finds/2006/10/11/116
Get the fuck out of here.
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Typical muslim, lying to try and turn as many muslims against America as they can. ::)
Where is danielson, he would love to get a piece of "big"bobsonmanymen.
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Bigbobs its pointless debating these barbarians. fury just justified that they come to iraq to kill 1 mil people doesnt matter, cause muslims already kill eacother. Its useless to debate these low life unedicated queers.
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How about we address, I don't give a fuck. Really, there is no draft in the US, those men signed up knowing they could be called to war at any moment, they are doing their jobs. If they get out of line, who can blame them, everyday some dunecoon is trying to kill them, blow them up, kidnap them and cut off thier head....etc. So they whack some innocents.....whoopdeedo o. ::)
So how does that make you different than the Muslim extremists who think "America has been killing over a million of our innocents in Iraq with sanctions after the first Gulf war, and therefore we need to attack it back, who cares if 3,000 civilians die"
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Hey everybody, look, El Niggerachi is joining up with the anti-Americans......who would have thought ::)
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Bigbobs its pointless debating these barbarians. fury just justified that they come to iraq to kill 1 mil people doesnt matter, cause muslims already kill eacother. Its useless to debate these low life unedicated queers.
True that, I'm probably going to pop out of this thread now. I have a bad habit falling for debating with the uneducated. Thanks for the reminder.
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Are you fucking retarded? Where did you get that number from? Estimates put the number of deaths at 600,000. Are you saying that every single civilian death in Iraq is a result of American sanctions? Funny, I thought it was due to other Iraqis and foreigners blowing them up and chopping their heads off. To think, we've been forcing those muslims to kill other innocent muslims for being shia or sunni!!!!!! Silly me!!!!! ::)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/at-least-600000-civilians-killed-in-iraq-study-finds/2006/10/11/116
Get the fuck out of here.
You pasted a "page not found" link...
The number of deaths depends in which source you read but more importantly the date of the estimate. The deaths happened over a period of more than 10 years, so if you read an estimate at year 5 it will be less than one at year 10. Pretty complicated hey? ::) And Iraqis and foreigners did not start attacks on each other until after the second Gulf War. The 1 million plus civilian deaths I'm referring to were between the first and second gulf war and solely as a result of sanctions placed against them by the US. You do know how timelines work right? Like, x incident happened from 1991 to 2001, and is therefore not related to Y incident that happened in 2005? I think most white trailer trash would even understand that.
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You pasted a "page not found" link...
The number of deaths depends in which source you read but more importantly the date of the estimate. The deaths happened over a period of more than 10 years, so if you read an estimate at year 5 it will be less than one at year 10. Pretty complicated hey? ::) And Iraqis and foreigners did not start attacks on each other until after the second Gulf War. The 1 million plus civilian deaths I'm referring to were between the first and second gulf war and solely as a result of sanctions placed against them by the US. You do know how timelines work right? Like, x incident happened from 1991 to 2001, and is therefore not related to Y incident that happened in 2005? I think most white trailer trash would even understand that.
So anyone that doesn't agree with your sandnigga retoric is white trash? hahaha You are so convinced that muslims are right, you are blinded by your own religion.
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So anyone that doesn't agree with your sandnigga retoric is white trash? hahaha You are so convinced that muslims are right, you are blinded by your own religion.
No. I don't consider Alex23 as "white trash" even though he started this thread. Only people who keep replying with the same crap and are not able to understand my arguements let alone debate back, such as yourself and BF.
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No. I don't consider Alex23 as "white trash" even though he started this thread. Only people who keep replying with the same crap and are not able to understand my arguements let alone debate back, such as yourself and BF.
So you think I'm "white trash" because I don't give a fuck about some shitstain in a third world country that would have no problem blowing himself up to please his "god". hahahahaa Since you don't understand my arguments...you are a dunecoon, fair enough? And I'm not going to debate, I made my point a long time ago.
People are going to die to secure the future for America, deal with it crybaby.
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I for one have a friend that dropped out of college to go fight over there. And he says it was the best decision of his life. Stop talking like you know what's going on.
HAHAHAHAHA! Oh brother - this isn't that counter-strike game you play in college ::)
The U.S army's desertion rate is at an all time high, risen 80% since the Iraq invasion and suicide rates are surging. Not to even mention the mental effects war has to those who haven't ran away or topped themselves yet.
Maybe Fox news didn't report on it or your friend - 'Stop talking like you know what's going on' ;)
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HAHAHAHAHA! Oh brother - this isn't that counter-strike game you play in college ::)
The U.S army's desertion rate is at an all time high, risen 80% since the Iraq invasion and suicide rates are surging. Not to even mention the mental effects war has to those who haven't ran away or topped themselves yet.
Maybe Fox news didn't report on it or your friend - 'Stop talking like you know what's going on' ;)
It's kind of sad that someone created this gimmick for the sole purpose of following BF around. :-[
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It's kind of sad that someone created this gimmick for the sole purpose of following BF around. :-[
Take his penis out of your mouth. He's left a little bit of 'him' in you hahahahah
Not going to comment on what I wrote? Didn't think so.
Can I make it to your little signature thing too?
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Take his penis out of your mouth. He's left a little bit of 'him' in you hahahahah
Not going to comment on what I wrote? Didn't think so.
Can I make it to your little signature thing too?
What's to comment on? Some statistics you made up?
100% of getbig can press the 40lb dumbells and not blow out their shoulders.... well except you that is.
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What's to comment on? Some statistics you made up?
100% of getbig can press the 40lb dumbells and not blow out their shoulders.... well except you that is.
Are you really that ignorant to not know these facts? Do you know what's going on in the world? Good stuff, I'll post hundreds of articles quoting the rate of desertions and suicides by U.S forces - just to educate a clueless fool living in a trailer park ;D
You can post something about this '40lb' dumbell stuff your boyfriend bezerkfury loves to talk about since he has nothing else so had to resort to his imagination - at least he isn't searching through posts dating back years like your other boyfriend 8)
Discuss U.S soldiers running away/committing suicide/mentally scarred for life in their numbers while tinytit geeks like you and your boyfriends celebrate the 'invasion' behind your keyboards.
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Are you really that ignorant to not know these facts? Do you know what's going on in the world? Good stuff, I'll post hundreds of articles quoting the rate of desertions and suicides by U.S forces - just to educate a clueless fool living in a trailer park ;D
You can post something about this '40lb' dumbell stuff your boyfriend bezerkfury loves to talk about since he has nothing else so had to resort to his imagination - at least he isn't searching through posts dating back years like your other boyfriend 8)
Discuss U.S soldiers running away/committing suicide/mentally scarred for life in their numbers while tinytit geeks like you and your boyfriends celebrate the 'invasion' behind your keyboards.
Soldiers have been doing those things since the first worl war, what's new?
Do you think war is fun?How do you expect these 18-19 year olds to cope with the extremeties of war? I think it's funny when some flabby,little kunt like you comes along and says the shit you have.
The invasion is for the good of the US future, and these guys knew what they were signing up for, there is no draft, they went willingly, if they can't/don't want to handle the pressure, they should have made a different decision than joining the military.
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Soldiers have been doing those things since the first worl war, what's new?
You really trying to compare WW1 to this 'fake' war? Whats new? We're invaders this time - not defending. Hope that helps. Invading for money by the simply pressing buttons to launch - not defending your homelands in bloody trenches.
Do you think war is fun?
???
The invasion is for the good of the US future.
That's all I can take, you really are deluded. The 'invasion' has just created more hate which will lead to more attacks on the U.S. Of course oil and building rights for U.S companies isn't bad, rebuild what you destroyed - poetic.
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You really trying to compare WW1 to this 'fake' war? Whats new? We're invaders this time - not defending. Hope that helps. Invading for money by the simply pressing buttons to launch - not defending your homelands in bloody trenches. ???That's all I can take, you really are deluded. The 'invasion' has just created more hate which will lead to more attacks on the U.S. Of course oil and building rights for U.S companies isn't bad, rebuild what you destroyed - poetic.
Deluded in your pathetic mind, reality in mine. I'm going to be around a long time and I want my grandchildren to have a secure future, if that means taking over some dump and swiping their oil for this country, then so be it. They are going to hate us anyways, might as well give them a reason.
Are you American? Living in America?
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Deluded in your pathetic mind, reality in mine. I'm going to be around a long time and I want my grandchildren to have a secure future, if that means taking over some dump and swiping their oil for this country, then so be it. They are going to hate us anyways, might as well give them a reason.
Are you American? Living in America?
Secure future? By being hated by the majority of the world? Not being able to leave your own country and be treated with any kind of respect? More attacks are inevitable, you can't stop them all - is it still justified? U.S civilians are just political collateral for the future - is that what your saying ::)
My whole point was about the troops, are they collateral too?
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Secure future? By being hated by the majority of the world? Not being able to leave your own country and be treated with any kind of respect? More attacks are inevitable, you can't stop them all - is it still justified? U.S civilians are just political collateral for the future - is that what your saying ::)
My whole point was about the troops, are they collateral too?
Are you American or living in America?
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Are you American or living in America?
You not going to answer?
First of claimed the statistics I posted were made up, quickly moved on to comparing this 'war' to WW1 and now is going down another pointless avenue.
Why is that even relevant? I'm talking about human blood here, not American or Iraqi.
If I was American, I'm disgusted about the loss of American soldiers and Iraqi's to line the pockets of business men.
If I wasn't American, I'm disgusted about the loss of American soldiers and Iraqi's to line the pockets of business men.
I'm out - this is pointless.
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You not going to answer?
I'm not even going to read your shit, you won't answer my question I asked a few posts back, why should I continue to answer yours, again and again, and you still don't "get it"?
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People are going to die to secure the future for America, deal with it crybaby.
Well as long as the people who lead your country continue to have that attitude American civilians at home and abroad, and soldiers abroad, will also continue to be targeted in random attacks. Don't cry about it then.
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Well as long as the people who lead your country continue to have that attitude American civilians at home and abroad, and soldiers abroad, will also continue to be targeted in random attacks. Don't cry about it then.
haha its funny how one-sided the issue becomes for these morons. Are we forgetting that we invaded Iraq on a false pretense, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent iraqis? Are american lives more valuable than iraqi lives? No one is condoning terrorism, we are just merely explaining the root of the hatred against America. I love this country and I'm here to stay. Maybe that puts me in a better position to assess international affairs than some iditos here.
Your points were a 100% right, and you have shown great patience in repeating your points over and over despite the senseless ridicule you had to put up with.
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Are american lives more valuable than iraqi lives?
Yes.
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Yes.
Only someone less than human would think that. Ironic :)
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It's too bad that upstanding citizens and intelligent Americans like Haider may have their life in danger from terror attacks because of "fellow Americans" like chaos, panda, and BF who breed the hatred towards their nation that results in violent attacks.
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It's too bad that upstanding citizens and intelligent Americans like Haider may have their life in danger from terror attacks because of "fellow Americans" like chaos, panda, and BF who breed the hatred towards their nation that results in violent attacks.
haha thanks for the kind words, you're right when you say the ignorance being displayed on this thread is similar to the thinking of the extremists on the other side. You fools, you are no different.
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Only someone less than human would think that. Ironic :)
Why are you hate-mongering? Let's keep it civil.
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Why are you hate-mongering? Let's keep it civil.
Just an opinion about someone who would hold such an opinion. I'm all about love and peace, I'm a muslim after all ;)
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Just an opinion about someone who would hold such an opinion. I'm all about love and peace, I'm a muslim after all ;)
See, there you go again with your hate-mongering. I can't even "talk" to you without getting this disgusting treatment :-\
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See, there you go again with your hate-mongering. I can't even "talk" to you without getting this disgusting treatment :-\
Calm down bra, it's jsut the internet. Where's your buddy chaos when you need comforting? He's very mean to me for whatever reason, sorry I took it out on you
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Calm down bra, it's jsut the internet. Where's your buddy chaos when you need comforting? He's very mean to me for whatever reason, sorry I took it out on you
Of course it's "only the internet". Which is why you should tone it down. You wonder why the white man mistrusts muslims. Look at how you act and you'll know why. ;)
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Of course it's "only the internet". Which is why you should tone it down. You wonder why the white man mistrusts muslims. Look at how you act and you'll know why. ;)
You're just a shit talker that spews racist bullshit then cires like a baby when u get a response. Get a life white man ;)
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You're just a shit talker that spews racist bullshit then cires like a baby when u get a response. Get a life white man ;)
"cires" ???
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"cires" ???
Its cute when you try to deflect :)
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Its cute when you try to deflect :)
Deflect? Deflect what? All I did was ask you what "cires" means. :-\
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Deflect? Deflect what? All I did was ask you what "cires" means. :-\
Deflect the subject matter you idiot. You do a good job at being annoying though, I'll give u that.
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This noc kid still trying to suck my dick? To think someone made a gimmick solely to follow me around brings a tear to my eye. A psyche destruction of massive proportions. It's hard to take someone seriously knowing they've got every picture of you saved on their hard drive for masterbation material while nursing a blown out shoulder from 40 lb db presses.
haha its funny how one-sided the issue becomes for these morons. Are we forgetting that we invaded Iraq on a false pretense, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent iraqis? Are american lives more valuable than iraqi lives? No one is condoning terrorism, we are just merely explaining the root of the hatred against America. I love this country and I'm here to stay. Maybe that puts me in a better position to assess international affairs than some iditos here.
Your points were a 100% right, and you have shown great patience in repeating your points over and over despite the senseless ridicule you had to put up with.
Unless you can provide proof of the "hundreds of thousands" of Iraqis that we've killed, then please shut the fuck up. The people who killed the hundreds of thousands are muslims from OTHER countries running the death squads, the suicide bombings, the beheadings, the torture, the burning of children, the bombing of mosques, the killing of doctors, etc.
Funny, the people doing most of the killing in Iraq are foreigners, but it's ok for them to do that because they're Muslim and not white. Brutal hypocritical racism that's typical of the muslim trash on this forum.
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This noc kid still trying to suck my dick? To think someone made a gimmick solely to follow me around brings a tear to my eye. A psyche destruction of massive proportions.
Unless you can provide proof of the "hundreds of thousands" of Iraqis that we've killed, then please shut the fuck up. The people who killed the hundreds of thousands are muslims from OTHER countries running the death squads, the suicide bombings, the beheadings, the torture, the burning of children, the bombing of mosques, the killing of doctors, etc.
Funny, the people doing most of the killing in Iraq are foreigners, but it's ok for them to do that because they're Muslim and not white. Brutal hypocritical racism that's typical of the muslim trash on this forum.
You're denying that hundred of thousands were killed because of the war? I know it seems like the war has been running for ages now, but that's a fact. Bob and I are not denying that it has turned into a civil war, most of the casualties resulting from in-fighting. The rest of your post is jsut fucking nonsese, we never implied that in any sort of way, you seem desperate to put words in our mouths.
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You're denying that hundred of thousands were killed because of the war? I know it seems like the war has been running for ages now, but that's a fact. Bob and I are not denying that it has turned into a civil war, most of the casualties resulting from in-fighting. The rest of your post is jsut fucking nonsese, we never implied that in any sort of way, you seem desperate to put words in our mouths.
No, you seem desperate to make it sound like we forced the Iraqis to start mindlessly blowing each other to pieces and cutting off family's members heads for wearing pleated pants. We can't help it that they're a bunch of bloodthirsty apes. You refuse to admit that the problem isn't the Americans, but the inflow of Muslim fighters from other countries that have absolutely no regard for human life. But you won't, because they're muslim like you and it's ok for them to do that.
In the end, no Americans are forcing muslims to kill each other. We're not holding a gun to their heads saying, "Here, strap this bomb to your chest and detonate it in the middle of a market packed with children."
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Whatever bro, you're just making shit up. Calm down, have a glass of water.
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Whatever bro, you're just making shit up. Calm down, have a glass of water.
Making shit up? What am I making up? That the majority of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi and from other foreign countries? That the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths are due to the Shiite death squads and AQI? That some of you muslims took a 5 year old kid playing in his yard, doused him in gasoline and lit him on fire? That a woman and her husband cut off the heads of her cousin and his wife in front of their children because he was wearing pleated pants and they thought it was too "western"? That you have no problem condoning American actions but turn a blind cheek to the fact that the foreign fighters are 100x worse and blindly target civilians?
The only making up facts here are you douche bags. But it's ok. Nothing you guys haven't done before. Either way, you're a fag and not worth talking to. Your bigotry is laughable.
And I'm perfectly calm. I'm actually laughing at the fact that the muslims polluting this board have all congregated in this thread to try to defend their people's actions and condemn the white man.
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No, you seem desperate to make it sound like we forced the Iraqis to start mindlessly blowing each other to pieces and cutting off family's members heads for wearing pleated pants. We can't help it that they're a bunch of bloodthirsty apes. You refuse to admit that the problem isn't the Americans, but the inflow of Muslim fighters from other countries that have absolutely no regard for human life. But you won't, because they're muslim like you and it's ok for them to do that.
In the end, no Americans are forcing muslims to kill each other. We're not holding a gun to their heads saying, "Here, strap this bomb to your chest and detonate it in the middle of a market packed with children."
making
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and I don't know how you expect us to take you seriously when you use racist insults ???
Its hate bro, its not logical. Emotions are not rational.
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What am I making up? It's a widely known fact that the majority of AQI fighters and the majority of suicide bombers are foreign fighters. You can deny it like the typical muslim trash like you are because it completely destroys every bit of your argument. Why do you think the home grown insurgents are turning on AQI? They're apes that have no regard for the native Iraqis and kill indiscriminately.
Do a little reading before you try to talk down here.
Your bigotry and blatant support of muslims regardless of what they do is laughable. Who's the racist here? ::)
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Read what Im pointing at again, you = putting words in my mouth. That's all, its very simple. I was never even debating about that you racist prick.
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What am I making up? It's a widely known fact that the majority of AQI fighters and the majority of suicide bombers are foreign fighters. You can deny it like the typical muslim trash like you are because it completely destroys every bit of your argument. Why do you think the home grown insurgents are turning on AQI? They're apes that have no regard for the native Iraqis and kill indiscriminately.
Do a little reading before you try to talk down here.
Your bigotry and blatant support of muslims regardless of what they do is laughable. Who's the racist here? ::)
Epic google search.
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Look how this guy tries to make it all personal, you don't deserve a reply you douchebag.
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I'm in the mood for smacking you in the proverbial mouth Haider, so I'm going to.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/BerzerkFury23/suicide.jpg)
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/18791.html
Look at that!!! Foreigners killing Iraqis through suicide bombings. But wait, it's ok!!! They're muslim after all, so it's perfectly fine. But 3 or 4 Americans stupidly kill some townsfolk and it's the end of the world! Those monsters!
Go ahead and tell me that chart is full of shit. ::)
You and Bigbobs are the two biggest racists posting in this thread with your blind support of Muslims and constant condemnation of the white man.
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haha its funny seeing you go through this and disproving jackshit, I'm not even arguing with you. I seriously think you're high on something cuz you refuse to see waht's really being talked here, hate to call you stupid but you're not proving otherwise.
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haha its funny seeing you go through this and disproving jackshit, I'm not even arguing with you. I seriously think you're high on something cuz you refuse to see waht's really being talked here, hate to call you stupid but you're not proving otherwise.
How so? Bigbobs has spent 4 pages of this thread trying to claim that Americans have killed 1 million+ civilians in Iraq. I took a few posts to completely annihilate that little racist claim of his. You decided to stick your nose in, and now you're throwing a temper tantrum because I made a point that the majority of people killing the muslims in Iraq are actually other muslims.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/BerzerkFury23/suicide.jpg)
Anyway, going to head to bed. Hope I don't lose sleep over this!!!! ::)
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Why you obsessing over this.. Do you secretly lust after arab penis?
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You fucking idiot I never denied any of that, thanks for the info though, I havent been well informed about the war recently ;)
If you dont see that your point is moot, then may god help you. The "killings" bob mentioned were actually casualties as the result of US sanctions imposed on iraq for several years. Shit like that incites hatred of the US, and the result of that is extremist ideologies.
Calm the fvck down, and talk like a man you little bitch.
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You fucking idiot I never denied any of that, thanks for the info though, I havent been well informed about the war recently ;)
If you dont see that your point is moot, then may god help you. The "killings" bob mentioned were actually casualties as the result of US sanctions imposed on iraq for several years. Shit like that incites hatred of the US, and the result of that is extremist ideologies.
Calm the fvck down, and talk like a man you little bitch.
What sanctions? We didn't force Saddam to kill Shiites. You claiming that our sanctions led to the death of a million muslims is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
I love to fuck really skinny bitches.... It makes me think im fucking a pre-teen girl.
Go away nzpedophile.
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Go to bed fag, give yer overactive hormones a little rest before you blow up you jihadist fvck :D
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Go to bed fag, give yer overactive hormones a little rest before you blow up you jihadist fvck :D
What overreacting hormones? I'm fine kid. You're the one that can't seem to come to grips with the fact that everything I've said in this thread is 100% true. It's ok, turn a blind eye to it. A trait of your people.
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What overreacting hormones? I'm fine kid. You're the one that can't seem to come to grips with the fact that everything I've said in this thread is 100% true. It's ok, turn a blind eye to it. A trait of your people.
hahaha you're a desperate little uneducated racist prick. You don't even know about the US sanctions on Iraq and here you are trying to argue with someone far mroe educated on the subject than you, bigbobs.
You're a total douchebag displaying typical white trash behavior.
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One would expect that someone with so much emotion invested into something would be able to offer something intelligent as an argument ;D But you have only proven how braindead hatred can make people, I don't see you as a particualrly dumb guy otherwise.
And the fact that you decided to make this personal makes you even more of a peice of shit person, considering I have treated you with respect in the past. You're just a filthy dumbfuck person.
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hahaha you're a desperate little uneducated racist prick. You don't even know about the US sanctions on Iraq and here you are trying to argue with someone far mroe educated on the subject than you, bigbobs.
You're a total douchebag displaying typical white trash behavior.
I know about them. What I don't know is how they equated to the deaths of 1 million Iraqis. Pretty sure that ol' Saddam played a hand in that. Give it a rest kid, you're out of your league here.
And speaking of racism. Your blatant ignoring of the fact that the majority of people killing Iraqis are foreign muslim fighters while focusing on a few mistakes the Americans have made is the most racist thing in this thread. Fact.
One would expect that someone with so much emotion invested into something would be able to offer something intelligent as an argument ;D But you have only proven how braindead hatred can make people, I don't see you as a particualrly dumb guy otherwise.
And the fact that you decided to make this personal makes you even more of a peice of shit person, considering I have treated you with respect in the past. You're just a filthy dumbfuck person.
I've offered plenty of intelligent discussions. It's pointless to argue with a biased prick who refuses to admit anything but will instead focus on the mistakes that 4 people made. It's pathetic.
You and Bigbobs are reaching so badly it's pathetic. I actually feel sorry for how sad you're making yourselves look. Oh, and I'm not going to lose sleep over the fact that you're mad at me despite the "respect" you showed me in the past. It's an internet forum, kid.
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you keep repeating the same bullshit over and over, where have I denied anything? Haven't I told you that your poitn is moot and provided reasons for why? bigbobs has clearly explained how the US sanctions resulted in the deaths of innocent people, I need not repeat it. What does that say about you, that you would skip over that?
Get over yourself kid, you have also shown us that you are a hypocrite now ;) Totally worthless, not only as a debater but you also show no human decency. Fuck off, I'm out of this thread.
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you keep repeating the same bullshit over and over, where have I denied anything? Haven't I told you that your poitn is moot and provided reasons for why? bigbobs has clearly explained how the US sanctions resulted in the deaths of innocent people, I need not repeat it. What does that say about you, that you would skip over that?
Get over yourself kid, you have also shown us that you are a hypocrite now ;) Totally worthless, not only as a debater but you also show no human decency. Fuck off, I'm out of this thread.
I stopped reading past the first 2 lines of Bigbobs posts the second he tried to equate the actions of 1/2 a dozen Americans as being indicative of the way 99.99% of Americans conduct themselves.
You two racists fags get no respect from me. ;)
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The alphabet boards have four main BITCHES right now: "bigbobs", "haider", "mark kerr" and "pumphard"
"haider" is getting completely destroyed in this thread. ;D
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How so? Bigbobs has spent 4 pages of this thread trying to claim that Americans have killed 1 million+ civilians in Iraq. I took a few posts to completely annihilate that little racist claim of his. You decided to stick your nose in, and now you're throwing a temper tantrum because I made a point that the majority of people killing the muslims in Iraq are actually other muslims.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/BerzerkFury23/suicide.jpg)
Anyway, going to head to bed. Hope I don't lose sleep over this!!!! ::)
hahah you didnt' annihilate shit! I posted a link (and can post hundreds if you want since it's a known fact) that over 1 million Iraqi civilians died between the first and second Gulf Wars due to US-imposed sanctions on Iraq that kept the country from obtaining basic medicines. Therefore, 1 million+ people died from simple illnesses that could have been cured with basic meds that the country did not have because of sanctions imposed on them. Even though my post and article made this very clear you thought I was referring to deaths in Iraq after the second US invasion, until I finally spelled it out to you as I would a 6 year old kid - "even x happened between 1991 and 2001, and is therefore distinct of event y that you are discussing from 2005 onward" You did not address that.
As for your chart of suicide bombers lol, that doesn't prove anything...so the majority of "suicide bombers" are from Muslim countries - so what? The majority of civilian deaths around the world are due to decisions by the US (primarily the sanctions against Iraq between the two gulf wars). Should I make a chart on that and have 1+ million deaths attributable to the US compared to a few thousand attributable to Muslim suicide bombers?
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hahah you didnt' annihilate shit! I posted a link (and can post hundreds if you want since it's a known fact) that over 1 million Iraqi civilians died between the first and second Gulf Wars due to US-imposed sanctions on Iraq that kept the country from obtaining basic medicines. Therefore, 1 million+ people died from simple illnesses that could have been cured with basic meds that the country did not have because of sanctions imposed on them. Even though my post and article made this very clear you thought I was referring to deaths in Iraq after the second US invasion, until I finally spelled it out to you as I would a 6 year old kid - "even x happened between 1991 and 2001, and is therefore distinct of event y that you are discussing from 2005 onward" You did not address that.
As for your chart of suicide bombers lol, that doesn't prove anything...so the majority of "suicide bombers" are from Muslim countries - so what? The majority of civilian deaths around the world are due to decisions by the US (primarily the sanctions against Iraq between the two gulf wars). Should I make a chart on that and have 1+ million deaths attributable to the US compared to a few thousand attributable to Muslim suicide bombers?
Why were those sanctions there?
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Why were those sanctions there?
Apparently to hurt Saddam's regime, when all it did is increase the wealth gap between Saddam and the Iraqi people, kill over 1 million Iraqi civilians, and further dim any hope of the Iraqi people getting strong enough to one day revolt against Saddam.
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Apparently to hurt Saddam's regime, when all it did is increase the wealth gap between Saddam and the Iraqi people, kill over 1 million Iraqi civilians, and further dim any hope of the Iraqi people getting strong enough to one day revolt against Saddam.
So you are going to avoid the question, when you have all the answers for everything anti-American?
What caused the US to put those sanctions in place against Iraq?
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So you are going to avoid the question, when you have all the answers for everything anti-American?
What caused the US to put those sanctions in place against Iraq?
What caused them to put those sanctions in place?--Their desire to not finish off Saddam when they could have at the end of the first gulf war and instead leave him in power as an excuse to impose sanctions for a decade to cripple the country, irrespective of whether 1+ million civilians die.
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What caused them to put those sanctions in place?--Their desire to not finish off Saddam when they could have at the end of the first gulf war and instead leave him in power as an excuse to impose sanctions for a decade to cripple the country, irrespective of whether 1+ million civilians die.
thats a very nieve view
of a complex political situation
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thats a very nieve view
of a complex political situation
What's your view of it then?
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What's your view of it then?
I feel that alot of pressure was put on america and britain
not too continue the first gulf war by other world powers..
the sanctions were not to kill civilians
they were to stop sadam building weapons of mass destruction
which he would have used on israel leading to ww3
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I feel that alot of pressure was put on america and britain
not too continue the first gulf war by other world powers..
the sanctions were not to kill civilians
they were to stop sadam building weapons of mass destruction
which he would have used on israel leading to ww3
That doesn't really make sense to me. The whole WMD theories are to be dismissed as the US did not find anything after their second invasion, showing that they simply use "WMD" as a justification for their policies towards Iraq, whether it was to justify their second invasion or to justify their sanctions. The only thing the sanctions achieved were the death of over 1.5 million civilians according to some estimates. I can not recall now but a prominent US leader even resigned over the continued sanctions.
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That doesn't really make sense to me. The whole WMD theories are to be dismissed as the US did not find anything after their second invasion, showing that they simply use "WMD" as a justification for their policies towards Iraq, whether it was to justify their second invasion or to justify their sanctions. The only thing the sanctions achieved were the death of over 1.5 million civilians according to some estimates. I can not recall now but a prominent US leader even resigned over the continued sanctions.
doesn't that just prove that the sanctions worked
the first thing sadam did during the first gulf war
was to start firing scuds at israel in an attempt to destabilize the whole region
if israel had retaliated other middle eastern countries would have supported iraq
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doesn't that just prove that the sanctions worked
the first thing sadam did during the first gulf war
was to start firing scuds at israel in an attempt to destabilize the whole region
if israel had retaliated other middle eastern countries would have supported iraq
Then why did the US not eliminate Saddam after the first Gulf War when they easily could have as they did in the second, and instead left him power and chose to place sanctions to prevent the development of WMD?
The fact that the US confirmed that Iraq had WMD and used that as their their basis of the second invasion when NONE were found simply lessens their credibility more than suggests that their sanctions were effective.
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Then why did the US not eliminate Saddam after the first Gulf War when they easily could have as they did in the second, and instead left him power and chose to place sanctions to prevent the development of WMD?
The fact that the US confirmed that Iraq had WMD and used that as their their basis of the second invasion when NONE were found simply lessens their credibility more than suggests that their sanctions were effective.
they would have lost the support they had in the region if they had gone further
Russia and China were against the invasion continuing
in my opinion they should have wasted the place first time
but they didn't
and now its just a big bowl of madness
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they would have lost the support they had in the region if they had gone further
Russia and China were against the invasion continuing
in my opinion they should have wasted the place first time
but they didn't
and now its just a big bowl of madness
They had even less popular support at the onset of the second invasion, so I don't buy the fact that they invaded Iraq then left Saddam in power while imposing sanctions that killed their civilians as a "PR move" ::)
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They had even less popular support at the onset of the second invasion, so I don't buy the fact that they invaded Iraq then left Saddam in power while imposing sanctions that killed their civilians as a "PR move" ::)
there is no point arguing
if you are going to trivialise anything you don't agree with
you people tend to be very close minded in my experience
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there is no point arguing
if you are going to trivialise anything you don't agree with
you people tend to be very close minded in my experience
I hardly consider this an argument.
BTW you're much more level headed than BerzerkFury.
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there is no point arguing
if you are going to trivialise anything you don't agree with
you people tend to be very close minded in my experience
They're annoying aren't they? This clown is implying that we purposely left Iraq so we could laugh as our "sanctions led to the deaths of a million arabs." It's fucked up interpretations of these things that leads to suicide bombings and the state of the middle east as it is today.