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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: jtsunami on December 31, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
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Ok so I decided to start off with the 5iu and broke down and get some dextrose too.
Day 1 5iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later and 1 hr later another meal. -
Day 2 7iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later more food food food something went wrong lol
So I had a numb tounge and couldn't really see straight after 7iu shot prolly 1 and 30 min in. Well I have been reading the slin syringes wrong! I was injecting 50iu and 70iu on both days. Wow anyway that was a close call. Stay safe in the new year bros. Thx in advance for all the flames :)
jt
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Ok so I decided to start off with the 5iu and broke down and get some dextrose too.
Day 1 5iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later and 1 hr later another meal. -
Day 2 7iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later more food food food something went wrong lol
So I had a numb tounge and couldn't really see straight after 7iu shot prolly 1 and 30 min in. Well I have been reading the slin syringes wrong! I was injecting 50iu and 70iu on both days. Wow anyway that was a close call. Stay safe in the new year bros. Thx in advance for all the flames :)
jt
idiot
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Fuk bro , you are lucky :o hypoglycemia can kill , makesure people around you know what you are doing and have glucagon on hand , just in case.
Be carefull mate
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Fuk bro , you are lucky :o hypoglycemia can kill , makesure people around you know what you are doing and have glucagon on hand , just in case.
Be carefull mate
He isn't lucky...he's stupid.
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oh comon gtbro that is all you got I am dissapointed :( Happy New Years from TEAM NASSER '08 is going to be a huge year!
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oh comon gtbro that is all you got I am dissapointed :( Happy New Years from TEAM NASSER '08 is going to be a huge year!
Sorry..I just don't understand it. I am all for using gear but the margin of error is so small with insulin I can't see how anyone would mess with it.My mother is diabetic and once when I was a kid she fucked up with her insulin and nearly died. Be carefull.
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Thx, I hope my experience can help ppl in the future with regard to reading the iu's right. I was use to drawing up and reading the IU's for my growth which was dosed at 10iu per ml, the insulin is dosed @ 100iu per ml, so that is where I got confused. Anyway hope safe and happy new year to all.
jt
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Ok so I decided to start off with the 5iu and broke down and get some dextrose too.
Day 1 5iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later and 1 hr later another meal. -
Day 2 7iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later more food food food something went wrong lol
So I had a numb tounge and couldn't really see straight after 7iu shot prolly 1 and 30 min in. Well I have been reading the slin syringes wrong! I was injecting 50iu and 70iu on both days. Wow anyway that was a close call. Stay safe in the new year bros. Thx in advance for all the flames :)
jt
LMAO !!!
man you guys are stupid sometimes, a friend of mine also shooted 100 IU of insulin at once this week
learn how to read the dosages ;D
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LMAO !!!
man you guys are stupid sometimes, a friend of mine also shooted 100 IU of insulin at once this week
learn how to read the dosages ;D
He probably just wanted a good excuse to eat some ice cream and drink soda pop.
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I am surprise he didn't die actually
he called me an hour after and he said he was shaking and wasn't feeling right
I told him to keep eatin and drinking as much sugar as he can and he told me he would gain fat
what a stupid fuck ;D
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it's just not worth it
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Insulin syringes go up to 100 units (1cc) and it is quite clearly written on the syringe.
My wife is very involved in drug testing and diabetics as part of her job. (Endocrine research)
I just showed her this post and she said you are a very lucky man. :-\
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Ok so I decided to start off with the 5iu and broke down and get some dextrose too.
Day 1 5iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later and 1 hr later another meal. -
Day 2 7iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later more food food food something went wrong lol
So I had a numb tounge and couldn't really see straight after 7iu shot prolly 1 and 30 min in. Well I have been reading the slin syringes wrong! I was injecting 50iu and 70iu on both days. Wow anyway that was a close call. Stay safe in the new year bros. Thx in advance for all the flames :)
jt
You are lucky my friend. It could have killed you.
You really need to get your shit in order if you are starting insuline. You need to be able to dream every detail about insuline.
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Ok so I decided to start off with the 5iu and broke down and get some dextrose too.
Day 1 5iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later and 1 hr later another meal. -
Day 2 7iu of slin, dextrose60g postworkoutmeal 1 hr later more food food food something went wrong lol
So I had a numb tounge and couldn't really see straight after 7iu shot prolly 1 and 30 min in. Well I have been reading the slin syringes wrong! I was injecting 50iu and 70iu on both days. Wow anyway that was a close call. Stay safe in the new year bros. Thx in advance for all the flames :)
jt
There is nothing to be said other than I doubt you are really doing slin. You have to be a gimmick and not sure what the joke is. If you are serious, then you are a complete tool because you had so many warnings man...good luck and God speed!
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You are full of shit.
Please leave the board.
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Why am I full of shit?? I did make a mistake and today went to 10iu and was fine. No problems whatsoever. Apparently the slin is not as dangerous as you guys have made it out to be, I did 70iu by accident and got dizzy and started to black out, but I mean if you are doing 10iu their would be no such problem.
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You are full of shit.
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. The 0's on insulin syringes are pretty clearly marked. You typically get them in one of two sizes---1/2 cc or 1 cc. (1/3 cc are also available).
1/2 cc:
(http://www.animalhealthcare.com/handouts/general/dmellitus_files/image010.jpg)
1 cc:
(http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/060412113923s.jpg?)
I'm really curious as to what kind of insulin was supposedly injected, especially considering that he really, really could have committed suicide.
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Why am I full of shit?? I did make a mistake and today went to 10iu and was fine. No problems whatsoever. Apparently the slin is not as dangerous as you guys have made it out to be, I did 70iu by accident and got dizzy and started to black out, but I mean if you are doing 10iu their would be no such problem.
I think you are stupid. Real, real stupid.
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I was not going to respond to his baiting... But we are at the point where a shit Head playing games is
setting up some unaware reader for a serious incident, injury or death.
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This CHild should be banned here and now.*
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AN example should be made to this group of clowns.
Insulin is not a joke, and its been in the news lately.
Enough.
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I was not going to respond to his baiting... But we are at the point where a shit Head playing games is
setting up some unaware reader for a serious incident, injury or death.
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This CHild should be banned here and now.*
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AN example should be made to this group of clowns.
Insulin is not a joke, and its been in the news lately.
Enough.
Trab, I've been out of touch the last week, whats been in the news?
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Humalin-R was injected and yeah I injected 70 IU had a 1cc insulin syring and filled er up to 70 mark almost all the way full. Anyhow I am fine, got a little dizzy, numb mouth, and weird vision for a couple hours. But I mean if you are going to only do 10iu or 15iu that is a breeze and no worries. I am use to using the insulin syringes for GH, so GH was 10iu per ml when the insulin is 100iu per ml. That is where I messed up. Anyhow I know now and here to share my experience.
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I think you just might be messing around after you had the big argument on here and people said you were not ready for this. Weird sense of humor to go along with what they were saying about you were gonna kill yourself buy saying you almost did. I think its bait to get guys here worked up. They did not fall for it though.
Sounds like the regulars picked up on this.
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The problem is, there are alot of young guys that just read here.
He's makin' it sound like no big deal.
The fact this can be lethal makes him a major liability.
He should go, plain and simple.
I think Ron would not be so keen on him.
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WHY...do you not believe that I shot it by accident. Yes I did 50iu first day and 70iu second day. I had food to counteract the feeling but it was not pleasant, maybe I am not as sensitive to insulin as others are but that is the truth what I did. I am not going to do it again cause it was uncomfortable and no reason, I will stick at about 15iu I guess.
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WHY...do you not believe that I shot it by accident. Yes I did 50iu first day and 70iu second day. I had food to counteract the feeling but it was not pleasant, maybe I am not as sensitive to insulin as others are but that is the truth what I did. I am not going to do it again cause it was uncomfortable and no reason, I will stick at about 15iu I guess.
If it was Humalog (which is what you told me you were going to take) you would be dead, no question. I'll bet you never bothered to get a blood glucose monitor either did you. You will end up in the hospital and likely die from this because you have no respect for it. People like you make me sick, please don't post on these boards anymore.
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It was Humalin-R didn't want to wait for the Humalog and got impatient.
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WHY...do you not believe that I shot it by accident. Yes I did 50iu first day and 70iu second day. I had food to counteract the feeling but it was not pleasant, maybe I am not as sensitive to insulin as others are but that is the truth what I did. I am not going to do it again cause it was uncomfortable and no reason, I will stick at about 15iu I guess.
you are an idiot.
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OK, this thread is retarded...you guys want it gone, speak up and it's gone.
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Ok forget this I was just trying to share a mistake I made, that is all. Why am I getting called fake and shit, it was a real mistake that is all.
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OK, this thread is retarded...you guys want it gone, speak up and it's gone.
I think Jtsunamis is playin a game, and there's more of it to come.
The good info is usefull, but his idea that this is ok is dangerous.
Get rid of the problem - Jtsumami.
He's screwin w/ guys that contribute some good stuff.
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I think Jtsunamis is playin a game, and there's more of it to come.
The good info is usefull, but his idea that this is ok is dangerous.
Get rid of the problem - Jtsumami.
He's screwin w/ guys that contribute some good stuff.
I agree, I think he is just trying to gain attention and promote chaos.
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hahahaha you almost died for us bitches ;D
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I agree, I think he is just trying to gain attention and promote chaos.
....and Team Nasser. Should have been the first clue.
However, unfortunately there are probably some real people that think this way, which is scary shit!!
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I have seen a newbie take 50 instead of 5 in his car outside the gym staggering in the parking lot. Luckily there was a donut shop in the same lot and it all worked out.
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A donut shop in the same lot as a gym....you must take some pics =)
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A donut shop in the same lot as a gym....you must take some pics =)
haha, we have a pizza buffet and a Mexican restaurant in the same parking lot...doughnut shop is about 2 blocks away, and another one about 3 blocks down from that one....and of course every fast food joint imaginable along the way, lol!
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LOL, that is the way I felt, but it took 1:30 in and I was like shit I gotta eat whatever I can get my hands on, so I got 3 desserts from resturant and tons of snacks at the gas station so I would feel ok again. I have no reason to play a game or gain attention bros, I am just keeping it real and letting you know what happened (period) no games.
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LOL, that is the way I felt, but it took 1:30 in and I was like shit I gotta eat whatever I can get my hands on, so I got 3 desserts from resturant and tons of snacks at the gas station so I would feel ok again. I have no reason to play a game or gain attention bros, I am just keeping it real and letting you know what happened (period) no games.
i don't believe you but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
you are a VERY lucky man, please monitor your blood sugar and do this shit right.
Slin is not something to fuck with, i know a close friend who went into a coma from 30iu of Log and he knew what he was doing. 70iu is insane and i hope you have good medical insurance.
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I think we should watch the bashing on this thread. I think he's just trying to point out a mistake he made. I'm not proinsulin use but if it helps someone not make a mistake then it's fine.
BTW - BE CAREFUL!
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LOL, that is the way I felt, but it took 1:30 in and I was like shit I gotta eat whatever I can get my hands on, so I got 3 desserts from resturant and tons of snacks at the gas station so I would feel ok again. I have no reason to play a game or gain attention bros, I am just keeping it real and letting you know what happened (period) no games.
You do realize that this was possibly the worst thing you could have done?
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One thing I cant figure out is how you could possibly make that mistake. Ive seen you around the boards, and I think by now you would have figured out how to dose gear. How is it that you cant dose slin @ 100mg per ml? Im glad your OK, but that is the mother of all rookie mistake. I would think that when you saw that almost a whole cc of slin was gone you would have realized that you would not have enough to complete your run?
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Vet,
Im curious why?? Seriously I would like to know, cause I thought eating all that would help out and it seemed to make me feel fine again for a time being and my tonge numbness went away.
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4thAD,
I was thinking GH, cause the GH was dosed @ 10iu per ml, and I read the slin bottle and must have thought in my head it was dosed the same even though it was dosed @ 100iu per ml.
Did your friend come out of his coma and was he ok? I guess since it was humalin-R and not as fast acting it was not as BAD, but still horrible mistake. I am 250 so not sure if you are bigger maybe it will not affect you as much. Anyway thankfully I learned my mistake.
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4thAD,
I was thinking GH, cause the GH was dosed @ 10iu per ml, and I read the slin bottle and must have thought in my head it was dosed the same even though it was dosed @ 100iu per ml.
Did your friend come out of his coma and was he ok? I guess since it was humalin-R and not as fast acting it was not as BAD, but still horrible mistake. I am 250 so not sure if you are bigger maybe it will not affect you as much. Anyway thankfully I learned my mistake.
HGH is dosed how its mixed by the user depending on how much dilutant you add.
It sounds like thats something you've never really done either.
If your truly stupid enough to do this stunt w/ insulin, hopefull you are removed from the human gene pool before you reproduce..... Please cycle nonstop w/ strong androgen to keep your sperm count at close to zero in between the time you die from a insulin accident.
There are allready to many stupid PPL that are a burden on mankind. Also, I hope you use enough insulin to die rapidly and not just become a expense to the rest of us...
Seems like your on track to me. Keep up the good work. You are my hero. You are "HardCore".
Perhaps the next X-games can have a Insulin tollerance competition for your kind...
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Trab ill respond to one part of your post the rest is not polite at all so anyhow...
The GH and you would know if you got some. Most comes with 10 10iu vials, im talking generic yellow top, blue, brown. So it is the most common thing to do is put 1ml of bact water in with 1 vial of gh, cause then it is very easy to measure, so 10 on the insulin syring = 1 IU of GH. Why would you mix the GH vial with anything other than 1ml of bact water, you would just be making more work for yourself.
jt
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Trab ill respond to one part of your post the rest is not polite at all so anyhow...
The GH and you would know if you got some. Most comes with 10 10iu vials, im talking generic yellow top, blue, brown. So it is the most common thing to do is put 1ml of bact water in with 1 vial of gh, cause then it is very easy to measure, so 10 on the insulin syring = 1 IU of GH. Why would you mix the GH vial with anything other than 1ml of bact water, you would just be making more work for yourself.
jt
Should be 1 ml bac water per iu
10 iu = 10 ml bac water
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"But solely through injection the lethal dose is 800 – 3200 units."
Source: http://www.chemsoc.org/exemplarchem/entries/2002/hook/insulin.htm
WTF ???
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Trab ill respond to one part of your post the rest is not polite at all so anyhow...
The GH and you would know if you got some. Most comes with 10 10iu vials, im talking generic yellow top, blue, brown. So it is the most common thing to do is put 1ml of bact water in with 1 vial of gh, cause then it is very easy to measure, so 10 on the insulin syring = 1 IU of GH. Why would you mix the GH vial with anything other than 1ml of bact water, you would just be making more work for yourself.
jt
Oh, your not useing real GH.... sorry Ive no experience w/ anything but USA pharma.
Concentration is as you choose to dilute. ANy way you like. Vials come in many size IU. 8,12,24...
Your using HCG sold as HGH if lucky (old slack HCG at that)
Guess waht... Real HGH shows effect in days on a lean guy, ;)
Carry on...
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"But solely through injection the lethal dose is 800 – 3200 units."
Source: http://www.chemsoc.org/exemplarchem/entries/2002/hook/insulin.htm
WTF ???
THis is all bad info. You'd be in deep trouble and asking to die well before several of the other doses listed here other drugs.
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Trab sure it is, im sure you've tested all the batches and know were they come from right? Of course, you seem to have all the knowledge I shouldn't even question you lol. HCG is easily detected with a pregnancy test.
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One thing I cant figure out is how you could possibly make that mistake. Ive seen you around the boards, and I think by now you would have figured out how to dose gear. How is it that you cant dose slin @ 100mg per ml? Im glad your OK, but that is the mother of all rookie mistake. I would think that when you saw that almost a whole cc of slin was gone you would have realized that you would not have enough to complete your run?
Um, insulin is available as 100 Units/ ml or 40 Units/ml (for veterinary brands). While I know what you were trying to say, and i agree with you, its not dosed in mg/ml.
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Vet,
Im curious why?? Seriously I would like to know, cause I thought eating all that would help out and it seemed to make me feel fine again for a time being and my tonge numbness went away.
I'm not just going to give you the answer on this one. I want you to think your stupidity through. Think about the physiology when you eat a high simple carbohydrate meal, what happens. Now add in an exogenous insulin source. Whats going to potentially happen.
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No thanks, It worked out fine for me so imo it did what I wanted it to do, get that feeling away.
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thats fucking crazy, glad u lived tho
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A donut shop in the same lot as a gym....you must take some pics =)
LOL....We have a donut shop, Little Ceasar`s Pizza, a mexican resturant, and a middle eastern grocery store.........along with a Max Muscle !
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No thanks, It worked out fine for me so imo it did what I wanted it to do, get that feeling away.
Now I think you are an even bigger dumbass.
Lets put things into our body that we are too stupid to know how much we are putting into it and are too stupid to care enough to know what it actually does. Good job. ::) ::)
Until the post above I had a hint that you might have just made a really stupid mistake. Now I think you are a first class idiot. I also think you are really trying to lure people out with your bullshit. I really doubt it if you did what you are saying what you did.
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Vet not everybody feels the need to understand the human body to a T like you do and cares to. Do you think pro's actually think into this shit? They are dumb as nails they listen to other ppl, and don't give a shit. We arn't all scientist !
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What Vet is trying to tell you is When you ate that stuff your body would secrete even more insulin. At least that is what I think he was getting at.
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What Vet is trying to tell you is When you ate that stuff your body would secrete even more insulin. At least that is what I think he was getting at.
Yupper...... A carb is not simply a carb. Thatswhat RDW tried hard to drive into his head.
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Yupper...... A carb is not simply a carb. Thatswhat RDW tried hard to drive into his head.
I understand what Vet was saying...since he has a working pancreas he would make his own insulin on top of the injected...but if taking in sugar wasn't the answer..what should he have done ? My mother is diabetic and when her sugar gets super low she drinks juice and/or takes glucose tablets to get it up in a hurry.
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I understand what Vet was saying...since he has a working pancreas he would make his own insulin on top of the injected...but if taking in sugar wasn't the answer..what should he have done ? My mother is diabetic and when her sugar gets super low she drinks juice and/or takes glucose tablets to get it up in a hurry.
Yeah, its the kind of sugars you take in, I think thats the "Monos" ???
Not sure, but Im not Fin with insulin, thats for sure.
Need the sugar that dont need break down? I would like vet to fill that in.
For what its worth, Ive actually got more real understanding about insulin from this clowns game than anyother slin "experts".
Jsunami - Hang in there and dont die on us just yet punkyboy.... There's prolly a lot more good details to find from PPl like you that are
stupid beyond belief.
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LOL....We have a donut shop, Little Ceasar`s Pizza, a mexican resturant, and a middle eastern grocery store.........along with a Max Muscle !
hahahaaa that would be fuckin torture little ceasars pizza is the fucking shit...and i always thought it was shitty to have a vending machine right outside the gym doors....but you guys def got it worse..
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HAHA Trab well thanks that was the first nice comment I heard from you so far.
I tried 15 iu yesterday, got a little woozy so I will stay on 10 - 12 iu for the rest of my 30 day experience. I tried it pre workout the other day, 10iu worked great, got my yogurt and juice in me and went to lift, so I had a great pump like many people have talked about. (didn't use dextrose cause I wanted some real taste in juice)
Anyway I wanted to do this since I am using humalin-r I can eat my solid meal right after my workout instead of having to wait an hour after my workout to eat, injecting before my workout makes the timedeadlines great so I don't have to wait around at all.
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That is what milos said he recommends for insulin, but he didn't let me in on specifics about what to injest afterwords during workout, which I would assume would include his pre and during workout shakes, so I think my surgary juice and yogurt filled in the gap :)
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That is what milos said he recommends for insulin, but he didn't let me in on specifics about what to injest afterwords during workout, which I would assume would include his pre and during workout shakes, so I think my surgary juice and yogurt filled in the gap :)
Milos, eh? This is getting more creative by the post. Why or why is it so hard to understand that this is not an experimental drug. You insist on trying some creative, new way of using slin. Playing with fire, if in fact you are really doing what you are posting...
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hey b you know hes been given advice and warned and everything else you know the only way some people learn how not too play with fire is when they get burned, with that being said i dont wish anything bad on him. and jt man good luck please be careful...
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That is what milos said he recommends for insulin, but he didn't let me in on specifics about what to injest afterwords during workout, which I would assume would include his pre and during workout shakes, so I think my surgary juice and yogurt filled in the gap :)
Tell me what milos recommends.
i know exactly what he prefers and you are WAY off base.
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Everything is working great so far, I will keep ya'll updated on the progress.
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Overload,
I like this way though, I am not looking to follow milos advice to T, I am looking to try new way and see how it works since the injecting after workout didn't gimme any kind of effect I was looking for. I want a huge pump for workout feels like it is working then ya know. So then right after workout is about the 1 hr mark after injection so I get to eat immedialty solid food after workout.
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THis is all bad info. You'd be in deep trouble and asking to die well before several of the other doses listed here other drugs.
I'll agree with that.
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I understand what Vet was saying...since he has a working pancreas he would make his own insulin on top of the injected...but if taking in sugar wasn't the answer..what should he have done ? My mother is diabetic and when her sugar gets super low she drinks juice and/or takes glucose tablets to get it up in a hurry.
It depends on the type of insulin you are taking and just how low your blood sugar is really. Regular has a much longer sustained effect than an insulin like Humalog. I've been diabetic for almost 21 years now (my anniversary is the end of january). I was on Regular for a large part of that time. With Regular (Humulin R) you absolutely need to consider the "sustained" effects of the insulin--which basically occur on a bell curve, and the point of that bell curve can make a difference. Essentially I was initially trained to take a simple carbohydrate (monosaccharide) to elevate the low blood glucose and then take a small meal a few minutes later ie this translates into taking glucose tablets followed by a sandwich.
I'm on Humalog now. What I've learned is that as long as my blood glucose isn't too low (ie I'm conscious and thinking relatively clearly--Ie I'm above 50 mg/dl or so) eating a moderate GI carbohydrate source with less simple carbs is really all thats needed. I can take sugar/simple carbs, but my blood glucose doesn't come back to normal any faster and may actually spike higher (which is a whole different post and something any bodybuilder taking insulin needs to consider). Now thats based on my experiences with my body. A different individual may need simpler carbohydrates to prevent loss of consciousness because they have a different threshold.
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HAHA Trab well thanks that was the first nice comment I heard from you so far.
I tried 15 iu yesterday, got a little woozy so I will stay on 10 - 12 iu for the rest of my 30 day experience. I tried it pre workout the other day, 10iu worked great, got my yogurt and juice in me and went to lift, so I had a great pump like many people have talked about. (didn't use dextrose cause I wanted some real taste in juice)
Anyway I wanted to do this since I am using humalin-r I can eat my solid meal right after my workout instead of having to wait an hour after my workout to eat, injecting before my workout makes the timedeadlines great so I don't have to wait around at all.
Couple of things: Are you checking your blood sugars? A meter is $8 at Walmart. There are no excuses with it.
Second: have you checked your bodyfat percentage before starting this? I'm curious as to how fat you are going to make yourself.
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That is what milos said he recommends for insulin, but he didn't let me in on specifics about what to injest afterwords during workout, which I would assume would include his pre and during workout shakes, so I think my surgary juice and yogurt filled in the gap :)
Dude, those recommendations are for people who are taking a shit load of other drugs---many of them, like HGH which have an insulin desensitizing effect (HGH can MAKE you diabetic if taken at high enough doses in the right person). You absolutely HAVE to consider this. If you don't, you are playing with dynamite.
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Tell me what milos recommends.
i know exactly what he prefers and you are WAY off base.
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Yeah, I'll agree with this. He's off base.
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Overload,
I like this way though, I am not looking to follow milos advice to T, I am looking to try new way and see how it works since the injecting after workout didn't gimme any kind of effect I was looking for. I want a huge pump for workout feels like it is working then ya know. So then right after workout is about the 1 hr mark after injection so I get to eat immedialty solid food after workout.
Anyhow why do yall respect insulin so much? Have you had a bad experience at 10 or 15iu? I mean I don't really respect it much that, 50iu was not that bad, and 70iu was a little scary, but 10 or 15iu why be scared???
JT, education/scientist aside, I'm a SHW powerlifter who is diabetic---meaning I don't make my own insulin, I'm relying on what I inject every day. An accidental 15 units over my regular dose of insulin has nearly put me in a coma (I fucked up and took my premeal shot twice one time). When I was on regular insulin, I wouldnt' take 70 units of R in two or three days--think about that. I've seen people my size who are "locker room drug expert" nondiabetics nearly die from taking insulin. You posted on this OPEN ACCESS board like it was some little mistake to take a HUGE amount of insulin. What you posted is enough to seriously hurt someone and you did it as if its some flippant little deal. Think about it, hypoglycemia if severe enough and prolonged can cause permenant effects. You got really, really fucking lucky and you appear to be too stupid to realize it.
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I'm making this post just so I have 7 in a row. ;)
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Glad Im not diabetic, sounds like a pain in the ass.
just deca made me so hungery I was shaking suddenly the first times I used it.
If I'd Thrown some insulin on that'd been a serious problem for sure.
Vet ? Are not guys at risk of becoming insensative to their own insulin doing this?
Hey, that fat gut look is waht I really want.. Ive had a hard time coming close to that no matter what kind of crap food I shovel down for decades.... Keep me posted JT...
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Overload,
I like this way though, I am not looking to follow milos advice to T, I am looking to try new way and see how it works since the injecting after workout didn't gimme any kind of effect I was looking for. I want a huge pump for workout feels like it is working then ya know. So then right after workout is about the 1 hr mark after injection so I get to eat immedialty solid food after workout.
Anyhow why do yall respect insulin so much? Have you had a bad experience at 10 or 15iu? I mean I don't really respect it much that, 50iu was not that bad, and 70iu was a little scary, but 10 or 15iu why be scared???
Guys ** Notice a change in Jtsunamis writing style here?
What a lot of work to farm a gimmick.
Im actually thinkin this guy is a lot smarter than our old JT and is pickin brains for details on 'slin use accidents.
I think he's possible got a lot of experience w/ slin for a long time and a hell of a tollerance to it.
Im also think Im seein' English as not a 1st language in this post.
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Glad Im not diabetic, sounds like a pain in the ass.
just deca made me so hungery I was shaking suddenly the first times I used it.
If I'd Thrown some insulin on that'd been a serious problem for sure.
Vet ? Are not guys at risk of becoming insensative to their own insulin doing this?
Hey, that fat gut look is waht I really want.. Ive had a hard time coming close to that no matter what kind of crap food I shovel down for decades.... Keep me posted JT...
There is some thought that taking Insulin will do that. Its been proven that taking HGH will.
I've recently had a long talk with my endocrinologist about diabetes and hormones in relation to a paper I'm trying to get published about insulin use in birds. Insulin doesn't just affect muscle gain, it will affect fat gain (from direct stimulation of lipogenesis), and it can affect other very important hormones for muscle gain like testosterone. This appears to hold true across all species, although insulin metabolism is different in mammals vs birds vs reptiles.
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Guys ** Notice a change in Jtsunamis writing style here?
What a lot of work to farm a gimmick.
Im actually thinkin this guy is a lot smarter than our old JT and is pickin brains for details on 'slin use accidents.
I think he's possible got a lot of experience w/ slin for a long time and a hell of a tollerance to it.
Im also think Im seein' English as not a 1st language in this post.
Yeah, I noticed the change.
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Im not sure about that as I have seen JT around a couple of different boards over the years. I think he is trying to get to you guys though.
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Im not sure about that as I have seen JT around a couple of different boards over the years. I think he is trying to get to you guys though.
That's what i've been thinking.
His posts on other boards are very different.
I'm done answering his questions, he's added to the blacklist.
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I'm done answering his questions, he's added to the blacklist.
Or as we like to call it in Hollywood the "He's a Republican" list.
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I think its really disrespectful to the board and the possible newbs that come here to say that insulin at 50 - 70mg is no big deal. Here is a perfect example of why people die from drugs like insulin.
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I don't think I said it was no big deal, I said it was a big mistake, the thread title ** I never said I was going to repeat it either. I was saying that people were saying in other experiences I have had it would not rank up with something that was terrible as in pain or anything. It was a weird feeling and I wanted it to go away, but that is it. I am doing 10iu - 15iu now pre workout not this crazy amount I did by accident.
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Overload,
I like this way though, I am not looking to follow milos advice to T, I am looking to try new way and see how it works since the injecting after workout didn't gimme any kind of effect I was looking for. I want a huge pump for workout feels like it is working then ya know. So then right after workout is about the 1 hr mark after injection so I get to eat immedialty solid food after workout.
Anyhow why do yall respect insulin so much? Have you had a bad experience at 10 or 15iu? I mean I don't really respect it much that, 50iu was not that bad, and 70iu was a little scary, but 10 or 15iu why be scared???
This comment right here is what I was talking about. I have no personal issues with you JT I just think you should show some respect for your self, the board, and newbs who might be reading these boards. When a Doc and vets tell you how dangerous this shit is, you should take it seriously.
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Removed, it was inapproriate,
jt
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for anyone even considering taking upwards of 70 IU's of insulin at once take a serious look at what exactly an overdose of insulin can do not only short term but longterm as well.
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I have seen a newbie take 50 instead of 5 in his car outside the gym staggering in the parking lot. Luckily there was a donut shop in the same lot and it all worked out.
HAHAHAHAHA, been there done that...
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I don't think I said it was no big deal, I said it was a big mistake, the thread title ** I never said I was going to repeat it either. I was saying that people were saying in other experiences I have had it would not rank up with something that was terrible as in pain or anything. It was a weird feeling and I wanted it to go away, but that is it. I am doing 10iu - 15iu now pre workout not this crazy amount I did by accident.
Guy a little rule of thumb before you play with slin, if you are a 200lb BB you need to take in 10 grams of carbs per 20 lbs of body weight.. OR 20 grams per unit not exceeding 15 units.... and a unit is a tiny little line on that tiny little needle ;D
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Thanks nders, how was your 50iu experence can you share ? :D
I have been taking in 60 g of carbs with the 15 iu, I am 260 right now, and I have been not getting woozy or anything, I have been trying to decrease the carbs I take in with it and see where I can get away with.
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Thanks nders, how was your 50iu experence can you share ? :D
I have been taking in 60 g of carbs with the 15 iu, I am 260 right now, and I have been not getting woozy or anything, I have been trying to decrease the carbs I take in with it and see where I can get away with.
Try it was 80iu :o and It wasnt fun ;D My girlfriend was hysterical crying and screaming " You gonna kill yourself you asshole!!" Well at least I figured out what I was doing wrong. As for 60 grams of carbs per 15ui at 260 is def not enough. You should be in the range of 150 grams per PWO carb shake...
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Thanks nders, how was your 50iu experence can you share ? :D
I have been taking in 60 g of carbs with the 15 iu, I am 260 right now, and I have been not getting woozy or anything, I have been trying to decrease the carbs I take in with it and see where I can get away with.
And I wouldnt see what you can get away with.. Its pretty dam hard when your confused as hell in bad hypo and you know you have to find carbs..
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lol I know what your talking about confused as hell hahha, I have been fine doing that the past week, so I don't know maybe I am not as sensitive to insulin.
Anyhow happy lifting,
jt
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Why am I full of shit?? I did make a mistake and today went to 10iu and was fine. No problems whatsoever. Apparently the slin is not as dangerous as you guys have made it out to be, I did 70iu by accident and got dizzy and started to black out, but I mean if you are doing 10iu their would be no such problem.
shoot 100 and have no food/sugar around....see how "not as dangerous" it is ;)
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yeah, but too much of anything is bad, I mean who would shoot 100 iu and not have food around let alone shoot 100iu, I mean you can take everything to the extreme. Like drinks tons of alcohol and die for alcohol poisioning. IMO alcohol needs to go, creates so many problems with wackhy people doing shit on it.