I just read the latest news in the GET BIG headlines and skimmed the various drug busts articles.Another pic from Howie. Colour me surprised.
On a personal note, I don't think personal steroid use should be illegal , despite NOT useing 'roids myself.
In the past, I would post about the reality of future drug busts in our world of hardcore bodybuilding.
Many scoffed and felt I was just a blowhard on a soapbox. Now, the 'roid busts are growing in number and many in our sport are dealing with that crap.I sincerely feel some empathy for them but have to wonder why they continue to take such risks???
Honestly, I do think the top guys look more impressive on the juice. BUT, it does the sport very little good to have them in jail or standing before a judge on trial :o
I feel that something tangible must be done within bodybuilding,to stem this tide of disaster BEFORE it gets even worse.However, I fear that "plausible denial" within the IFBB/NPC and possible psychological addiction issues, may prevent any real action on the drug problem.
I will be at the ASC and hope to see some of my fellow musclehedz there.
Howard ( my pic below, say hi if you see me at the ASC, thanks.)
LOL, the pleasures of living in gulag USA (or whichever shithouse you reside)
Howie, baby, get on some juice, its the obvious choice
Look, you can do one of two things:
one, get on some gear
two, you can place higher priority on the seriously remote chance of being caught whilst using, rather than placing your concern on areas that deserve your attention, them being, the very real fact that your missus has probably started to view you as an ageing fat fuck that pisses her off due to the fact that she could be out getting some young cock rather than your old ass
Howie, drugs love you, remember that
Another pic from Howie. Colour me surprised.
/and if you've never used, you can't have any empathy. however, you can have sympathy.
I did use some Winnie V and decca for 3 years from 83-86 and now use Androgel I get via prescription to keep my test levels in the ideal, no more, no less. I don't use anything other than that and am too old to have any Olympian or pro card delusions or risk my health and freedom LOL
yes, that is my actual pic and I am 49. I simply wanted anybody that didn't already know me, to be able to say hey, at the ASC in afew weeks.
Sadly, the main issue is my thread is lost once again to UNrelated , trivial crap.
Oh, well , all the best, see ya at the ASC, Howard
Howie, FFS, you - with your golden years fast approaching - are in a ideal position to utilise steroids
I mean, does any of this ring a bell with you?:
- not feeling able to rip the head of your workouts as you once did?
- when you walk down the street and a hot slut walks by, you dont notice, preferring instead to think about your bank overdraft?
- your cumload quantity has dwindled by shitloads?
- you no longer want 'dirty sex' just cuddles?
- you find yourself enjoying warm nights in watching romantic films and eating chocolates or ice cream?
FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
Seriously, grab some test enanthate, grab some cheque drops and rediscover your youth
wax your wifes ass like it hasnt been waxed before, push her head in the pillows, drill her moist hole
Jesus, does this really need thinking about?
No, no it doenst!
I did use some Winnie V and decca for 3 years from 83-86 and now use Androgel I get via prescription to keep my test levels in the ideal, no more, no less. I don't use anything other than that and am too old to have any Olympian or pro card delusions or risk my health and freedom LOL:-X
yes, that is my actual pic and I am 49. I simply wanted anybody that didn't already know me, to be able to say hey, at the ASC in afew weeks.
Sadly, the main issue is my thread is lost once again to UNrelated , trivial crap.
Oh, well , all the best, see ya at the ASC, Howard
if there was drugs in bodybuilding, i'm sure the magazines would investigate and inform us all of the truth.
you conspiracy theorists make me sick. Just because you don't have the work ethic and discipline to reach 305 at 3% bodyfat, doesn't mean others cannot do it naturally.
Exactly. I'm sure the official story of a normal healthy diet coupled with intense weight training and two scoops per day of a Weider protein product to get to that size is perfectly accurate.
I did use some Winnie V and decca for 3 years from 83-86 and now use Androgel I get via prescription to keep my test levels in the ideal, no more, no less. I don't use anything other than that and am too old to have any Olympian or pro card delusions or risk my health and freedom LOL
yes, that is my actual pic and I am 49. I simply wanted anybody that didn't already know me, to be able to say hey, at the ASC in afew weeks.
Sadly, the main issue is my thread is lost once again to UNrelated , trivial crap.
Oh, well , all the best, see ya at the ASC, Howard
I just read the latest news in the GET BIG headlines and skimmed the various drug busts articles.
On a personal note, I don't think personal steroid use should be illegal , despite NOT useing 'roids myself.
In the past, I would post about the reality of future drug busts in our world of hardcore bodybuilding.
Many scoffed and felt I was just a blowhard on a soapbox. Now, the 'roid busts are growing in number and many in our sport are dealing with that crap.I sincerely feel some empathy for them but have to wonder why they continue to take such risks???
Honestly, I do think the top guys look more impressive on the juice. BUT, it does the sport very little good to have them in jail or standing before a judge on trial :o
I feel that something tangible must be done within bodybuilding,to stem this tide of disaster BEFORE it gets even worse.However, I fear that "plausible denial" within the IFBB/NPC and possible psychological addiction issues, may prevent any real action on the drug problem.
I will be at the ASC and hope to see some of my fellow musclehedz there.
Howard ( my pic below, say hi if you see me at the ASC, thanks.)
You used deca for 3 straight years?! Do you think that is connected to your need for HRT?
Not trying to derail bro, but do you mean that you were on for 6 wks, off for 4 wks, for a period of 3 years? I'm no expert but I've heard that deca takes a long time to clear the system, and it would certainly be supressing for 4 wks after the last shot.I honestly took only one drug at a time and then in very low dose amounts.
I assume you weren't running deca alone, so what 4-5mg of T/wk? Were you using any HCG to prevent atrophy? Did you notice major nut atrophy?
I agree age is a factor, but I've got to ask these questions since 6 on/4 off sounds like being more or less on continuously. Has your HRT doc offered an opinion?
I did use some Winnie V and decca for 3 years from 83-86 and now use Androgel I get via prescription to keep my test levels in the ideal, no more, no less. I don't use anything other than that and am too old to have any Olympian or pro card delusions or risk my health and freedom LOL
yes, that is my actual pic and I am 49. I simply wanted anybody that didn't already know me, to be able to say hey, at the ASC in afew weeks.
Sadly, the main issue is my thread is lost once again to UNrelated , trivial crap.
Oh, well , all the best, see ya at the ASC, Howard
I agree that irresponsible juice use is a problem. I'm sure everyone will agree with that.
They don't have to legalize it, but being able to go to the doc and be honest, or schedule appointments without your insurance company flagging you, or be honest with your doc w/o him dobbing you in to the ins company, etc, would at least give those who choose to use access to regular tests and treatment if required.
Anotherqualityvigorous thread by Howie.
I did use some Winnie V and decca for 3 years from 83-86 and now use Androgel I get via prescription to keep my test levels in the ideal, no more, no less. I don't use anything other than that and am too old to have any Olympian or pro card delusions or risk my health and freedom LOLYou are CLEAN not natural...
yes, that is my actual pic and I am 49. I simply wanted anybody that didn't already know me, to be able to say hey, at the ASC in afew weeks.
Sadly, the main issue is my thread is lost once again to UNrelated , trivial crap.
Oh, well , all the best, see ya at the ASC, Howard
LOL, no biggy, I don't take myself too serious hehehe.
It has been obvious for some time that few here want to engage in any real , serious and thoughtful dialogue related to bodybuilding.That is why I now come here , catch up with the sports gossip and stuff , maybe post or read a couple threads and then leave, etc.
Believe it or not I am more into overall cardio fitness these days and am trying to drop a few pounds and stay healthy. Bodybuilding remains a fun hobby for me still, no more, no less, see ya at the ASC.
Howard
You are CLEAN not natural...and...??? What is the big deal, I did not say I NEVER took a BB drug?
and...??? What is the big deal, I did not say I NEVER took a BB drug?
This natural vs NON natural split is why drug TESTED shows get held back.
It stems from a belief that ANY drug use will make some guy into a permanent freak.
Ok McFarland that was kinda witty , but since I knocking on age 50, I would think it pretty sad and retarded of my main concern was NOT overall health.
Vince B, I had a blood sample done a few times to measure my free and reg testosterone levels a few years back and my levels were in the mid 200's mg/dl, the norm is 100- 1000.
Guys in their late teens and 20's avg around 600-700, and it starts to get lower after the mid 30's in most men. I get my PSA levels checked every couple of years and on my last full work up had all my key blood enzyme and hormane levels in the ideal range ( knock on wood hehehe)
In my opinion, hard training should stimulate the production of more testosterone. .
why?In your professional opinion whats the most effective way to build muscle tissue?
In your professional opinion whats the most effective way to build muscle tissue?
I just read the latest news in the GET BIG headlines and skimmed the various drug busts articles.Who's the old man at the gay bar ??
On a personal note, I don't think personal steroid use should be illegal , despite NOT useing 'roids myself.
In the past, I would post about the reality of future drug busts in our world of hardcore bodybuilding.
Many scoffed and felt I was just a blowhard on a soapbox. Now, the 'roid busts are growing in number and many in our sport are dealing with that crap.I sincerely feel some empathy for them but have to wonder why they continue to take such risks???
Honestly, I do think the top guys look more impressive on the juice. BUT, it does the sport very little good to have them in jail or standing before a judge on trial :o
I feel that something tangible must be done within bodybuilding,to stem this tide of disaster BEFORE it gets even worse.However, I fear that "plausible denial" within the IFBB/NPC and possible psychological addiction issues, may prevent any real action on the drug problem.
I will be at the ASC and hope to see some of my fellow musclehedz there.
Howard ( my pic below, say hi if you see me at the ASC, thanks.)
Who's the old man at the gay bar ??LOL, good crack hehehehe.
Just kidding Howie.. Big dude ..