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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Thealmightyronald on February 11, 2008, 12:00:14 PM
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Just wondering how often the majority does deadlifts. Lately i've been doing them every week, but it feels like i'm overdoing it.
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Once a week. Not always heavy - mix up the weights/reps and technique (ie sumo, SLDL ect..)
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i work out back 3 times a week and i dead lift on the first one and the third one...it is my favorite day and deads i think are my favorite and best move right now...
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I do SLDL every time I train my hams.
Normal deads up to doubles every few weeks.
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3 heavy sessions in a month. So I deadlift heavy 0.75 times every week ;D
Total deadlift sessions in 4 weeks = 6, 3 of them are light or 'speed' days.
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Freeweights one week, machine the next to mix it up.
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Everyweek! Deads should ALWAYS, ALWAYS be done on Back day, no excuses not to do them.
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I do rack pulls this week, then pull off a platform next week. If it starts getting too much, I take a week off and do speed days or light rows.
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I do deadlifts every back workout without fail - they're the first exercise in my back routine when I've got more energy and strength.
I'm currently doing rack pulls starting with the bar a few inches below my knees and repping out until failure. 3 sets of 12. Good stuff.
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I start with weighted pull-ups then move to deadlifts. this way Im still fresh and nice and warmed up too. I deadlift everytime I train back. I love deads, I feel like they make me stronger all around.
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Once a week .. Sumo
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Once a week .. Sumo
what is that?
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I only dead lift once a week and alternate between deads and rack pulls.
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every other week
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what is that?
Sumo style is just a very wide stance dead lift, basically your legs are in a Y position toward each end of the bar.
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2 or 3 times / month
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i work out back 3 times a week and i dead lift on the first one and the third one...it is my favorite day and deads i think are my favorite and best move right now...
3 times a week or 3 times a month ?
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3 times a week or 3 times a month ?
3 times a week...
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Every other week. I only train them heavy. I seem to keep getting stronger at them so there's no point in doing them more often that that. If it aint broke, why fix it?
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Have worked them usually two times a week. And on occasion, three times a week. Have also alternated the SLDL with-in a weekly DL workout. Example: monday-regular DL's and thursday SLDL's. The SLDL will add much poundage to the regular DL, for me anyway. I am bias because the SLDL is one of my favorite exercises. Most of the DL'ing I see are more of a SLDL than an actual "getting the low leg drive from a starting squating position and keeping the back flat" regular by the book DL.
Any of the above DL'ing (including the SLDL) can include heavy power rack work (partial reps). Good Luck.
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i work out back 3 times a week and i dead lift on the first one and the third one...it is my favorite day and deads i think are my favorite and best move right now...
I deadlift 2/3 tmes/month...I cannot imagine hitting deads 2/3 times/week...that sounds absurd! I usually use the 5 x 5 after a couple of warm up sets...my back is fried for 4-5 days following..WTF??????????????????????????????????????????
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Actually if you back is fried after 4-5 days than your may be doing something wrong with that 5X5 scheme. 5X5's have been one of my favorite, and many other people, standard workout cycles. You back should feel well worked after a day, at the most two, but return back to normal and ready for another 5X5 session that same workout week. Even when doing extra heavy power rack training you should not still feel fried 4 or 5 days later. I know everyone responds differently to training but normal recovery should not take that long. No malice intended, just an observation. Good Luck.
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3 times a week...
I was afraid you were gonna say that
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I was afraid you were gonna say that
why i love my workout schedule my weeks alternate so this week is back, chest, and traps three times with a 5x5 and shoulders, arms, legs 2 times rest on the weekend then flip it...all workouts except for my shoulders is 5x5 (very prone to injury and tweaking)...on my weeks with three back days mon and fri is deads heavy deads heavy everything at least for me...right now my body is responding really welll with this schedule...
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Actually if you back is fried after 4-5 days than your may be doing something wrong with that 5X5 scheme. 5X5's have been one of my favorite, and many other people, standard workout cycles. You back should feel well worked after a day, at the most two, but return back to normal and ready for another 5X5 session that same workout week. Even when doing extra heavy power rack training you should not still feel fried 4 or 5 days later. I know everyone responds differently to training but normal recovery should not take that long. No malice intended, just an observation. Good Luck.
Depends on your training age, percentage of 1RM used and how strong you are.
Lets say you use 80% of 1 RM for 5 x 5.
A guy doing 225 x 5 , ALOT diff then someone doing 465 x 5 , this may require 10 days to recover with assistance work b/t workouts/
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Regular deads, rarely. SLDL, every week.
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I don't have enough weights to do regular deadlifts at home, so I do high rep SLDL on my second back day.
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3 times every two weeks.
I'd rather spend my training time doing stuff that gets me bigger and stronger, so I skip the curls, and do more deadlifts.
:)
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3 times every two weeks.
I'd rather spend my training time doing stuff that get's me bigger and stronger, so I skip the curls, and do more deadlifts.
:)
lol, guys like you crack me up. So focused on being seen as hardcore that you are willing to not train bodyparts directly as someone might think your a pussy if your seen doing curls ::)
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lol, guys like you crack me up. So focused on being seen as hardcore that you are willing to not train bodyparts directly as someone might think your a pussy if your seen doing curls ::)
hahahaaa brutal truths...tough love yet again here on getbig...go figure
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I understand wheres he is coming from, as in your not gonna put on 20lbs just doing arm work, but who said you cant deadlift then do some curls or something ??? Sacrificing overall development by neglecting bodyparts.
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Depends on your training age, percentage of 1RM used and how strong you are.
Lets say you use 80% of 1 RM for 5 x 5.
A guy doing 225 x 5 , ALOT diff then someone doing 465 x 5 , this may require 10 days to recover with assistance work b/t workouts/
Last DL w/o I used 425 for 5 x 5...No way I'm deadlifting for at least a week..usually 2 weeks
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I understand wheres he is coming from, as in your not gonna put on 20lbs just doing arm work, but who said you cant deadlift then do some curls or something ??? Sacrificing overall development by neglecting bodyparts.
yea i agree with you...
Depends on your training age, percentage of 1RM used and how strong you are.
Lets say you use 80% of 1 RM for 5 x 5.
A guy doing 225 x 5 , ALOT diff then someone doing 465 x 5 , this may require 10 days to recover with assistance work b/t workouts/
your wrong if your truly hitting your 80% 1RM for 5 reps then the recovery time does not change in time due to more weight...thats wrong...now if your using 225 as your 80% and you could really be using 315 then yes but not if your being honest with the numbers....now other factors such as age diet and rest and program will factor in a huge amount to how long it takes you to recover...diet and rest being the biggest...
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I deadlift or some form of it twice a week.
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I didn't call anyone a pussy. I don't think you are a pussy if you curl, and I couldn't give a shit what anyone thinks about how I train, and I really don't give a shit how you train. I just told you what I do.
It has nothing to do with being hardcore, it has to do with effective and efficient training for my goals. Someone might learn something from my perspective. All I want is others to have success.
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Just wondering how often the majority does deadlifts. Lately i've been doing them every week, but it feels like i'm overdoing it.
on the average once a week,I'm more interested in getting my squat numbers up and I know what it's like to be sidelined with lower back problems .
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Actually 5X5's amount to only 25 reps total. And with the bonus of having a rest period between each of those 5 reps. Which should be a piece of cake for experienced lifters, even with 400-500lb sets. If you require 1 to 2 weeks to recover from those 25 total reps than you may want to adjust your training methods.
Take a hint from most PL'ers and not go to failure every set of Dl's (or anything else for that matter). Do not force out max effort reps, even on the last set of that lift. If you feel that you could get that last rep with max all out effort, do not. Stop at least one or maybe two reps away from that. If steady progress in muscle mass and strength is the goal than experiment with this style of training for a while and you be the judge as to how your body responds.
You are training the CNS (which needs not be taken beyond it's limits of recovery abilities after every workout) as much as you are the muscles of the body. And as we all know, the CNS is the key for recovery from each training session. And in return, allowing progressive gains in muscle mass and strength. If all thing being equal with smart workouts, good diet and proper recovery time, progress should be a steady part of anyones training goals. And than those 25 total rep DL become so much more easy to handle.
If the back seems to be taking too much of a beating from any DL workout (even a moderate one) than you may want to change you lifting mechanics. Something may be wrong with your lifting style or you have adopted bad lifting habits along the way. Or, which a few people overlook, the Dl is not really meant for their body type no matter what they do.
I get lots of post/E-mail about training style (not always on GetBig). And also video's showing a persons DL (and squat) form which are mostly disasters ready to happen. Do not know why they or their train Bud's can not see that. Main problem being, not squating low enough at the start of the lift and not keeping the lower back straight and in line with the lift. Too much bending forward losing the center line of power and putting the body in a crap position for the pull. Good Luck.
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2X per week and always heavy
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yea i agree with you...
your wrong if your truly hitting your 80% 1RM for 5 reps then the recovery time does not change in time due to more weight...thats wrong...now if your using 225 as your 80% and you could really be using 315 then yes but not if your being honest with the numbers....now other factors such as age diet and rest and program will factor in a huge amount to how long it takes you to recover...diet and rest being the biggest...
YOU ARE VERY WRONG! And your answer shows you dont have much experience with weightlifting at any level.
The RECOVERY TIME DOES indeed change. 500 x 5 is a HUGE difference from doing 185 x 5 even if both are a TRUE 80% of a 1RM for the lifter.
I suggest reading as many of the articles as you can on ME-L and Deadlifting on www.westside-barbell.com
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Actually 5X5's amount to only 25 reps total. And with the bonus of having a rest period between each of those 5 reps. Which should be a piece of cake for experienced lifters, even with 400-500lb sets. If you require 1 to 2 weeks to recover from those 25 total reps than you may want to adjust your training methods.
Take a hint from most PL'ers and not go to failure every set of Dl's (or anything else for that matter). Do not force out max effort reps, even on the last set of that lift. If you feel that you could get that last rep with max all out effort, do not. Stop at least one or maybe two reps away from that. If steady progress in muscle mass and strength is the goal than experiment with this style of training for a while and you be the judge as to how your body responds.
You are training the CNS (which needs not be taken beyond it's limits of recovery abilities after every workout) as much as you are the muscles of the body. And as we all know, the CNS is the key for recovery from each training session. And in return, allowing progressive gains in muscle mass and strength. If all thing being equal with smart workouts, good diet and proper recovery time, progress should be a steady part of anyones training goals. And than those 25 total rep DL become so much more easy to handle.
If the back seems to be taking too much of a beating from any DL workout (even a moderate one) than you may want to change you lifting mechanics. Something may be wrong with your lifting style or you have adopted bad lifting habits along the way. Or, which a few people overlook, the Dl is not really meant for their body type no matter what they do.
I get lots of post/E-mail about training style (not always on GetBig). And also video's showing a persons DL (and squat) form which are mostly disasters ready to happen. Do not know why they or their train Bud's can not see that. Main problem being, not squating low enough at the start of the lift and not keeping the lower back straight and in line with the lift. Too much bending forward losing the center line of power and putting the body in a crap position for the pull. Good Luck.
I really dont know what "Powerlifters" you are referring to. But the entire point of POWERLIFTING is to break records and have a Max EFFORT ( ME) Day every 7-10 days. You also need to spend some time at www.westside-barbell.com go to the articles section and ready every article youc an on (ME) Max Effort days and Deadlifting.
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YOU ARE VERY WRONG! And your answer shows you dont have much experience with weightlifting at any level.
The RECOVERY TIME DOES indeed change. 500 x 5 is a HUGE difference from doing 185 x 5 even if both are a TRUE 80% of a 1RM for the lifter.
I suggest reading as many of the articles as you can on ME-L and Deadlifting on www.westside-barbell.com
i dont agree with you...
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i dont agree with you...
but im not saying that you are wrong i just dont agree and i cant read any of those articles on my laptop becuase i dont have adobe and my desktop the one that has adobe is already shipped and on its way to the states (im PCSing in the military) if there is a word link or some other form besides a PDF hook me up with the link if you dont mind...