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Title: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: Monster81 on March 21, 2008, 01:04:04 AM
 my training partner has finally decided to start his first cycle (test & d-bol).
But he has something called “G6PD deficiency” its something related to the blood , im not sure if this could be a problem or if steroids will affect his blood/health in anyway…!!!
he has recently done a blood test (blood sugar, cholesterol, pressure) and everything is just fine.
So whats ur opinion on that , will he be safe using steroids ?
thx...
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: Vet on March 21, 2008, 03:47:46 PM
Thats a pretty serious disease.  I'd think it could open up a whole lot of problems, especially if drugs like insulin or HGH were used.   Hell, certian antibiotics can virtually kill people with G6PD deficiency.
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: emn1964 on March 21, 2008, 03:58:15 PM
Good news is that he's resistant to malaria!
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: England_1 on March 21, 2008, 10:11:04 PM
G6PD is the lacking of the enzyme that converts glucose to glucose-6-P. The addition of the phosphate group is what keeps your glucose inside your cells. I don't remember how it's treated.
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on March 21, 2008, 11:32:45 PM
G6PD is the lacking of the enzyme that converts glucose to glucose-6-P. The addition of the phosphate group is what keeps your glucose inside your cells. I don't remember how it's treated.

It can be managed, as long as you stay away from certain drugs, foods, etc... lack of this enzyme makes the red blood cells sensitive to oxidative stress. Other than playing a role in the conversion of glucose, G6PD is also responsible for keeping NADPH in the cell (which converts peroxide to water), lack of this makes the cell unstable and prone to lysis under oxidative stress.... which can lead to hemolytic anemia, which can usually be fixed by removing the trigger... or something along those lines...
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: Vet on March 21, 2008, 11:43:15 PM
It can be managed, as long as you stay away from certain drugs, foods, etc... lack of this enzyme makes the red blood cells sensitive to oxidative stress. Other than playing a role in the conversion of glucose, G6PD is also responsible for keeping NADPH in the cell (which converts peroxide to water), lack of this makes the cell unstable and prone to lysis under oxidative stress.... which can lead to hemolytic anemia, which can usually be fixed by removing the trigger... or something along those lines...


Thats basically my understanding of the disease. 
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on March 21, 2008, 11:52:20 PM
since steroids are broken down by a completely different enzyme... it wouldn't cause a problem, but in theory... since steroids have a positive effect on blood cell production, a person who is at a danger of developing anemia would benefit from the extra blood cell production.... right?
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: Monster81 on March 21, 2008, 11:55:57 PM
since steroids are broken down by a completely different enzyme... it wouldn't cause a problem, but in theory... since steroids have a positive effect on blood cell production, a person who is at a danger of developing anemia would benefit from the extra blood cell production.... right?

good point
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: emn1964 on March 22, 2008, 07:21:14 AM
Just stay the fuck away from fava beans!!!!
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: England_1 on March 22, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
NADPH in the cell (which converts peroxide to water)

NADPH has nothing to do with conversion of peroxide, that's catalase.

Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on March 22, 2008, 05:30:40 PM
NADPH has nothing to do with conversion of peroxide, that's catalase.



not an expert.... sorry.... but it has something to do with it indirectly.... it promotes some kind of anti-oxidant activity... so the peroxide does eventually get converted to water... as i understand
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: England_1 on March 22, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
not an expert.... sorry.... but it has something to do with it indirectly.... it promotes some kind of anti-oxidant activity... so the peroxide does eventually get converted to water... as i understand

of course, it can donate an electron pair (reduction)
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: Monster81 on March 23, 2008, 04:36:59 AM
So, i forwarded my question to 'Dave Palumbo', and here is what he answered:

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The steroids will have no interaction with that enzyme deficiency!
YES, G6PD is an enzyme deficiency disease whereby the RBC's cannot process carbohydrates properly and thus can lead to their death (hemolytic anemia). This should no interaction with anabolic steroids.

i guess NeverTrustABlonde was right , but the issue of this disease elemenating carbohydrates to be processed proprly worries me, since carbohydrates plays an importand role of building muscles as u know,, which means that he will never make it as a good/successfull bber !

Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on March 23, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
So, i forwarded my question to 'Dave Palumbo', and here is what he answered:

i guess NeverTrustABlonde was right , but the issue of this disease elemenating carbohydrates to be processed proprly worries me, since carbohydrates plays an importand role of building muscles as u know,, which means that he will never make it as a good/successfull bber !

not carbohydrates all together, there are other pathways...
a best the blood cells are just.... not as efficient
Title: Re: Steroids & 'G6PD Deficiency'
Post by: DIVISION on March 23, 2008, 11:13:50 AM
my training partner has finally decided to start his first cycle (test & d-bol).
But he has something called “G6PD deficiency” its something related to the blood , im not sure if this could be a problem or if steroids will affect his blood/health in anyway…!!!
he has recently done a blood test (blood sugar, cholesterol, pressure) and everything is just fine.
So whats ur opinion on that , will he be safe using steroids ?
thx...

Bodybuilding will not be in his future.

DNP will definitely not be in his future.



DIV